I'm replaying Borderlands 2, and I'm honestly having a blast. I didn't want to replay it at first because of how shit the pre-sequel was, but I can't remember why this game got so much hate on here.
Even the character I originally hated, Tiny Tina, kind of grew on me when I started doing sidequests and collecting the ECHO logs. Yeah, half her dialogue is still kind of shitty, but the other half isfunand kind of cute.
I'm really liking Maya, Phaselock and her "less focused" skill trees mean I can pick up pretty much any weapon I like and fuck shit up. I use sniper rifles and SMG's at first but then I found a Conference Call shotgun and I just swapped some skills around and now I'm an up-close destroyer of worlds.
Borderlands thread I guess.
Or not, that's fine too
bumping the thread with the best borderlands character in the franchise
>>336108394
I didn't like Tales, Gortys just felt like she didn't fit into the BL universe at all. Wouldn't bother me if she was a minor character, but since she's such a big plot point she was kind of annoying.
Pandora is a completely crapsack world, but here's this cutesy insecure AI with design right out of Wall-E!
As if the AtlasRIP in piss Atlas gunscorporation would make something like that, it didn't fit with their theme at all.
>>336108561
it didn't bother me, probably because I just played the 1st borderland ages ago and I barely know what Atlas is after all
Why is it so important to the devs that they go out of their way to tell that certain characters are gay or bi?
>>336109708
Anthony Burch's influence, I'm afraid. Too bad the Athena/Janey thing caught on so now they're pushing it in Tales too.
>>336107972
Zer0 is the best character
>>336109759
It kills me because it adds absolutely nothing to the game. Why even talk about sexual preference?
>>336109949
because muh progressiveness
It's a fad. It was a fad. It always a fad. Literally the whole career of modern Bioware was built by that.
>>336109949
Because Burch loves that his characters feel forced.
Good thing he left the company, the other writer of the original Borderlandsand voice of Scooteris taking over for Borderlands 3.
KRIEG BEST CHARACTER
>>336110112
this
IM THE CONDUCTOR OF THE POOP TRAIN
Borderlands 1 Hyperion weapons had better looks than Borderlands 2 ones, and I don't really like the gimmick they gave Hyperion in BL2.
They're still great guns, but I'd prefer them to just be really fucking accurate without having to miss your first shots.
>>336110093
is the telltale game canon?
If so, rip in pieces scooter, you magnificient bastard
>>336110365
Technically it's the sequel of BL2
>>336110281
I really, really hate all the Hyperion guns on BL2. I hope they fix it somehow.
>>336110365
Pretty sure they killed off Scooter because his va is losing his voice
>>336110498
Hyperion shotguns and SMG's are phenomenal, but their sniper rifles and pistols are just so fucking terrible.
>>336110593
It's because sniper rifles with high sway that can only be reduced the more you shoot is an oxymoron
>>336110678
They sort of fixed that in an update, now the sway also goes down just by aiming down the sights, but ONLY for their sniper rifles.
>>336110112
>>336107972
lv63 maya here
I played a lot then stopped because of burnout, and then I started playing it again this past month and I'm having a lot of fun.
I don't understand why you hated the pre sequeloutside of fucking literally 0 end gameI played athena and I would pay to play her in 2 instead. Her elemental skill tree is just too good. Also TPS had the grinder
>>336107972
I literally just started playing this last night. I played the first one years ago and think that the characters in the new one are shit, but BL2 is a whole lot of fun. Enemies are good, locations are good characters are good. I'm happy to sink a whole lot to hours into thisbut it will never be like what BL 1 was to me
>>336110281
>Bandit guns look dope but are the shittiest guns in the whole game
just kill me already
Because playing through the story is fucking boring, raid bosses are bullet sponges, health gating is a stupid exploitable mechanic but removal of health gating opens up your asshole for ohkos on OP8 difficulty, etc.
Anyone solo these games?
I just solod Borderlands 1 and it was fucking painful.
>>336109708
as a gay guy, I am ashamed to admit that I am a complete sucker for pandering in videogames.
In fallout 4 I threw away my original plan to join the Institute and spent like 3 hours doing extra shit I didnt want to just to romance Danse. I guess its obnoxious to breeders like you, but the marketing guys have figured out that this kind of thing is a really effective way to target their demographics.
I should probably be less malleable as a consumer, but eh.
I can't see where you comin' from
But I know just what you runnin' from:
And what matters ain't the "who's baddest" but
The ones who stop you fallin' from your ladder, baby
And you feel like you feelin' now
And doin' things just to please your crowd,
When I love you like the way I love you,
And I suffer, but I ain't gonna cut you 'cause
This ain't no place for no hero.
This ain't no place for no better man.
This ain't no place for no hero
To call "home.
>>336110815
Shit story, even shittier writing, claptrap, short with no DLCs.
But yeah, the game mostly the same as BL2 but with low-gravity gimmick. Just to show another hypocrisy of the critics when the game got about 77 on metacritic while BL2 got 89.
>>336110989
>complete sucker for pandering
You're also a complete sucker for attention. Here's your (you)
>>336110980
Soloed Borderlands 1 two times, Borderlands 2 five times and The Pre-sequel 6 times.
Borderlands 2 and The Pre-sequel were good, but I couldn't stand the first one that much. It was really boring.
>>336111086
>posting an opinion
>on a discussion thread
jesus, how unbelievably inappropriate and attentionseeking
how dare I?
>>336107972
BL2 is worth it just for the Tiny Tina DLC with D&D shit in it. Wish they made a full game out of that concept.
TPS should have been a DLC for BL2.
It bombed so fucking hard they didn't even finish the season pass
Gaige > Wilhelm > Krieg > Jack/Timothy > Brick > Mordecai > Athena > Zero(Melee) > Nisha > Aurelia > Salvador > Axton > Zero(Sniper) > Maya > Lilith > Roland > Claptrap
>>336111195
>Tiny Tina DLC with D&D shit in it
it was fucking randumb shit
>lmao rainbow unicorn shitting ebin loots xDDD
>>336110989
I'm gay and I don't think I've ever taken the gay option in any game except for my second playthrough of DA:O
The gay shit in games is way too forced and it makes me uncomfortable because I feel like the game it self is stopping, pointing at me through the monitor and saying "Hey you fag, this is for you"
Because in the span of a normal video game we don't generally have enough time to really know the characters. Characters are ussually represented by stereotypes, the big tough black guy, the foul mouthed lady sniper, the geeky scientist etc, so a gay guy is almost always going to be characterized as simply being gay and nothing else.
That's the way it is with the majority of games annoyingly. I can't think of many exceptions.
>>336111320
Fuck off with your /v/ memes already
It had the best OST of all the game.
>>336111320
>all jokes must be intellectually complex
>oh, and you arent allowed to find things funny unless i do too
mmkay
>>336110980
>>336111173
While I prefer BL1, it's so bland to play it alone, while BL2 is more bearable to play.
>>336111187
>discussion
>/v/
>>336111301
Default Gaige > every other Gaige
>>336111320
The ending was awful and forced. I was actually enjoying the ride since it was a story about how she refused to acknowledge Roland's dead and was using the game to cope with it negatively.
Then it went full retarded, as is any Burch writing. It was fine when it was just mindlessly stupid fun, since most of the DLC packs were dry as fuck.
>>336111320
You fucking autists that just spam "LMAO meme" are way worse than the games themselves. You know that, right?
>>336111320
Was getting a lot of (You) part of your plan ?
>>336111367
>>336110989
Actually Danse stands out in Fallout 4 as being pretty much the only well developed character.
Its very difficult to actually find out hes gay, he has much more important things to do than fucking most of the time, he has a whole complex character arc with the wholesecretly being a synththing, and hes just an all around cool guy.
>>336111521
Well I didn't get very far in Fallout 4 so I'll take your word for it.
The Borderlands series is proof that one gimmick can sell a pretty bad game.
>>336110815
The pacing in TPS was beyond terrible. So many needlessly long boring parts. Also that fucking urchin kid. IF YOU USE COCKNEY RHYMING SLANG AND THEN SAY THE PROPER WORD RIGHT AFTERWARDS WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF SPEAKING IN COCKNEY YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT
>>336111678
Nah, Gearbox got lucky for digging golds on uncharted territory that nobody haven't thought before.
>>336111743
Thats what cockeys do in the presence of outsiders though.
Havent you ever talked to one?
>>336111743
Ok I understand. I was mainly thinking about the gameplay though.
>>336111763
I don't entirely understand what you're trying to convey and from what I can get out of it you aren't even disagreeing with me.
>>336111301
>Being so bad at the game that you have to play the girlfriend character
Post your weapon brand-fu
>>336111796
The whole point of Cockney is to confuse the coppers and outsiders
>>336111825
That is because you are a fucking retard.
>>336111889
Hyperion master race
>>336111889
You already did, best sniper manufacturer in the game. Also that sniper reloading animation gets my dick hard.
>>336111825
I don't, I just trying to emphasize it.
Gearbox made an FPS Diablo. Nobody thought that before.
The settings and the memes are just the icing on the cake.
I mean you must be very lucky when your game sold 13 millions and other devs trying to copy you out.
>>336111889
mah negro, maliwan goes mest with maya
Borderlands 2 was GOTY and the memes were barely invasive.
borderlands 1>borderlands 2 >presequel
why? your damage relative to the enemies.
>>336111828
I played all of them though. Gaige was the one I had the most fun with, same with Willhelm.
>>336111975
>maliwan railers sound when you shoot
>>336112053
Borderlands 1 should be at the bottom and Borderlands 2 at the top.
The whole "bullet sponge" maymay is stupid when you deal a shitload of damage to compensate.
>>336111981
It's funny how they changed the art style at the very last moment because they didn't want to be "the poor man's Rage".
Rage went on to become one of the most forgettable games in existence while Borderlands became a successful franchise.
>>336112149
>i disagree cause its a meme
sure thing ledditor
>>336112053
Damage is fine if you know how to play.
The problem is your HP scaling. You die in literally 2 hits from any mob and god forbid it's a badass hitting you
>>336112053
I think Borderlands 1 and 2 are sort of equal.
Borderlands 1 had a darker setting, likeable NPC's, nice pop culture references instead of blatant memes.
Borderlands 2 just has a fuckload of content, some nice gameplay improvements, and the graphical improvements are great.
Shame about the reliance on the slag element in UVHM, but playing as Maya you can just take Scorn and Ruin and never worry about slag weapons again.
Why is this game so shitty optimised on PC!? Im playing it on max settings @1080p on my 980Ti and the framerate sometimes drops below 30 fps...
>>336112201
I remember seeing a video that recommended gearing more tanky and getting more defense talents. Guy dealt pretty good damage and his shield could withstand like around 4-5 hits and regenarated pretty fast.
>>336112368
Is Scorn really that useful ? Maya already has Ruin and slag SMG/grenades.
>>336112368
>likeable NPC's
You lost me there. The only likeable NPC was Knoxx, the rest sucked balls.
>>336112201
It's gotten so bad that people rely on the fact that you can't be killed in one hit as long as you're over 50% max health.
They just use the Pangolin shields that drain your health, combined with a fuckload of health regen, to instantly get back to 100% health after the "health gate" saves their life.
As long as you can keep healing yourself to over 50% before the short invincibility ends, you can never die.
>>336112430
Some weapons can cause a CPU clusterfuck. a Conference Call with Maya's Chain Reaction can nearly freeze the game one some bosses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU0akLm_FOA
I think Zer0's B0re skill can cause the same problem.
>>336107972
Pre-sequel main story got better towards the end, the start wash absolute agenda pushing trash. Jack is still the real hero of Borderlands 2.
Othewise all other story stuff was meh.
The gameplay was the same, but they butchered the interest in the combat by having enemies that are boring & enemy variety that is trumped by your average pokemon starting zone. It actually took me real mental gymnatics to keep myself playing, just to see how they tie up the time between BL & BL2.
>>336112535
>that video
>>336112535
>I think Zer0's B0re skill can cause the same problem.
Didn't they fix this? And at the same time made it kinda shitty. It's forever ago I played BL2 but I remember everyone loving the shit out of B0re, especially on that ship boss since you could kill it in seconds but a ton of the early patches for BL2 removed fun because waaah dont kill bosses and farm them in ways we didn't intend!
Then they never fixed the wall jump into the treasure vault exploit in the Scarlet DLC (while I played anyway).
>>336111521
>tfw you will never be penetrated by danse vibrating robo cock
Y liv
>>336107972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hafc3oq_kSY
>>336112647
Yeah, the Conference Call creates so many projectiles, that all have 80% chance to bounce to another one of BNK-3R's hitboxes because of Chain Reaction, that the game just straight up freezes.
>>336112698
>wall jump
care to explain ?
Also I guess you're talking about the evil smasher glitch, that shit was retarded and you know it
>>336112698
They did fix jumping over the wall to farm Saturn, but now I just unequip my grenade mod and grenade jump over the fence.
>>336112813
You could jump out of bounds along a certain path where the final boss of the Scarlet DLC is supposed to be but isn't if you go back without redoing the whole thing and eventually reach the treasure room behind the locked door and as such farm the treasure chests.
And no it was just B0re on BNK-3R. It killed it just as fast as Maya does it with Conference call in >>336112535 but I'm pretty sure Gearbox fixed that and in doing so fixed the freezing issues it could cause. I could be wrong tho.
>>336111889;_;
>>336113051
>We got the shitty Bandit weapons instead of S&S
Best girl.
>>336113317
That's not Maya "Copy that" the Siren
Post your builds
http://bl2skills.com/siren.html#555001000055050104500554510501hidden bump
>Didn't even shoot in the direction of these walls
Fucking Conference Call man
>>336116120
>blurred trickster with conference call
Anon you don't want to crash your game with no survivors, dont you ?
No Borderlands game after the first will ever be good because they have nothing as fun as Phoenix/Firefly Siren.
>>336116389
Getting a Legendary Mechromancer COM instead of a Legendary Siren one was definitely not the next step in my master plan.
>>336116519
>Siren
>Fun
What? She was boring as fuck. The only good thing about her was going Sanic speed, but the other Vault Hunters had more interesting and diverse skills.
>>336116894
>roland
>not boring
Come on now, he literally just throws a turret. That's not fun
>>336117078
Both are boring. yeah. Brick and Mordecai are much better.
Anyone else use Vladof sniper rifles?
>>336117183
>press button
>Bloodwing kills 6-10 enemies
That sure is great gameplay.
>>336113317
She is a lesbian... i still find her quite attractive.
>>336117183
Brick just punches things
Mordecai sends his bird flying
that's not fun
Why is Fragtrap with Fragmented tree the most fun build to play?
>>336117437
>playing the worst character in the franchise
kill yourself
>>336116894
Lilith's kill skills made her the best. Phoenix to burn everything near you, Intuition for a ton of speed and Girl Power for huge shield regen. It turned the game from a slow FPS where you end up having to wait for your shields to regen into one where you could literally be running around in groups of enemies with no downtime.
>>336117423
>>336117368
Brick skill allows him to swiftly change between close and ranged combat.
Mordecai can either play long range all day with Bloodwing instantly helping him or short-mid range with revolvers doing big amounts of damage.
Lilith is just useful for running between checkpoints or areas you've already visited, but otherwise her playstyle is mostly the same from level 1 to level 50, you just regenerate health and go Sanic mode faster. It's just fucking boring.
>>336117482
>caring about the characters at all when choosing MC
>>336117697
And none of them mattered because you could just get a Hellfire or Double Anarchy and win the game forever.
Most fun character in 2 was mechromancer by far
>at least 500 times damage
>500 times worse aim
I CANT HIT SHIT MORE THAN HALF THE TIME BUT HOLY FUCK IM WRECKING EVERYTHING ANYWAY
>>336110509
Yeah, his VA had a stroke between 1 and 2
>>336107972
/v/ general reaction to BL2 was completely retarded. It was an improvement to BL in every way and l rounded game. One of the first titles I completely disagreed with /v/. And one of the reasons I think you little shits are all 12 year old nerf herders.
>>336117741
>I don't like this character so my opinion is more valid than everyone else
Fuck you
>>336111889
>No Siren in TPS
Siren best class, come at me.
>>336110365
I don't think they ever confirmed or dismissed it as canon.
The game had bigger lore events than Scooter's death desu.
>>336118048
Maya is the the most fun character Motion/Cataclysm build with SMG damage stacked and using Lascaux is the most fun I ever had in this game. Everything flies around getting constantly phaselocked, pulled, set on fire or slagged
>>336111440
>>336111301
Bonnet Gaige best Gaige
>>336107972
presequel has better weapon and character balance than 2.
fact.
>>336111889
You already did
>>336117860
Gaige produced most fun and most rage by far.
>tfw you accidentally die for some stupid reason with 400 Anarchy
>>336107972
In hindsight I hate it because it's too much of a corridor shooter with swarms and swarms of enemies and little story. Having long corridors with hundreds of enemies is a cheap way of making the game longer.
Also everyone fucking hates GearBox now, since they realized the Aliens controversy wasn't an accident , but GearBox management actively fucking people over. Didn't a mentally disabled game developed get sued by them or something for his freeware projects?
>>336111889
>wanted to play borderlands with non elemental weapons
>they're utter dogshit.
>>336118307
>character balance
I hate how almost every character has a tree dedicated to coop.
A completely wasted tree if you're playing solo
>>336118497
It is, but, most characters are viable.
axton is not.
>>336117860
>full stacks and a Norfleet
IT'S NOT LIKE I WAS GONNA AIM ANYWAY
Alternatively
>Krieg's endless cycle of hulking out and smashing everything when at low health
>>336117991
>Give MY OPINION about why I don't like a character
>"How dare you have and opinion different than my own and don't like the character I like the most!? FUCK YOU!!!"
Okay.
>>336118048
Athena with Maelstrom build works just as good
>>336118613
>Fibber
das it mane
>>336118613
I don't get it. Is Dad playing?
>>336118469
that's completely wrong
>>336112430
I would take a serious look at what's killing your pc. I have an old quad core with a gtx 670 and never drop below 60
>>336118703
Gaige has a skill that makes bullets bounce from walls, and anarchy.
Gaige is retarded anyway
>>336112430
Maybe your CPU isn't able to handle the physix effects
>>336118703
Note the complete lack of aiming.
Between high Anarchy and Fibber its completely impossible, but wild ricochets find their way inyo enemies and deal incredible damage.
>>336118804
Almost all builds are harolds or explosives of some kind or other such elementals.
Unless you're not playing past 60.
In which case then yes anything's viable.
>>336118689
I remember the hilarity of people trying to duel against my Athena, like they didn't understand the shield at all, just pouring all the damage into it only to have it one shot them when thrown.
>>336119132
PVP in borderlands is absolutely retarded since the first game.
>>336119132
>dueling Athena vs Athena
We had almost similiar builds too. In the end it was the lag that decided the winner.
>>336117741
>but otherwise her playstyle is mostly the same from level 1 to level 50
Just like the 100% of the time Roland and Mordecai are shooting, right?
why do they hate maya so much?
>>336119223
I never got to try it in 1, i got it way after the original release. I do understand from the others that it was pretty pointless anyway except for ego stroking, it's not like anyone ever actually accepted duels for guns, they just grabbed all the loot they could without thinking.
>>336119514
It was really fucking retarded in 1, any body with a slow or stun immediately won any duel, especially Mordecai and Lilith, if it was mirror or both of those, it was whoever could use their skill first.
>>336119325
Roland yes (I already claimed he was boring). Mordecai playstyle is more suited towards long range combat the higher in level he gets and his use of Bloodwing increases to the point of being pretty much another weapon type that you can use besides guns and grenades.
>>336112575
I prefered the start of the story of Pre-sequel, it was much more coherent. After the midpoint Jack just goes ''okay, I'm evil now'' without any arc. Spoilers aheadAlso the story of Pre-sequel cancelled out the story of BL2 since one implied Jack was the bad guy since BL1 and Pre-Sequel said he wasn't
>>336119714
How does that make him not boring ?
>>336119402
Because Gearbox figured everyone was already attached to Lilith so they didn't give a shit about Maya.
>>336119613
>tfw BL1 got mods on console
>near infinite damage guns
>so people made near infinite shields
>but mordecai's skill bypasses shields
>mordecai wins 100% of pvp for months
>new modded shield comes out that gives near infinite HP regen per second
>game becomes a DPS race of who has the slightly closer to infinate damage guns to run down the other players hyper regaining HP faster
Modded BL1 PvP was a golden age
>>336119823
Because he's more versatile than both Roland the turtle or Lilith the Sanic?
>>336119942
my bad on leaving a name on
>>336119781
There was only when Jack killed the Merriff in self-defense that counts as an arc
>>336119860
>Lilith
>A character that was already pretty shit
>Made shittier in BL2
>Supposed to "side" with her in Presequel instead of Maya even though she orders a fucking execution on an unarmed prisoner because "she doesn't like her for working with Jack"
I swear to god the writing in this game is completely retarded, but didn't matter anyway because ayylmaoexmachina comes and saves the day.
Posting some cool ost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWjt8b-RiCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxNrhhFeIAY
>>336119714
Anyone can use snipers. Bloodwing is pretty much the definition of bland, you activate him and forget about him and he kills a bunch of stuff.
>and I'm honestly having a blast
stopped reading there
this isn't neogaf you geek
and nice blog
>>336111301
Phasing in and Out of combat, ripping everything apart.
Not first. Nice thraste.
>>336120148
ebin
Here's a (You)
>>336120101
>Anyone can use snipers.
Mordecai has bonuses for using them though. Same with revolvers.
>Bloodwing is pretty much the definition of bland, you activate him and forget about him and he kills a bunch of stuff.
Is another weapon in your arsenal though. Lilith Sanic speed is barely needed, you pretty much use it to regenerate health and that's it.
>>336120169
>Implying Lilith is fun
Holy kek.
>>336112108
you got a source for that? I need it for...scientific purposes
>>336120064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4FLi1DFYSc
>>336120379
>Mordecai has bonuses for using them though. Same with revolvers.
Doesn't matter, it's not a competitive game. Any one of the four classes can use any weapon just fine.
>>336120379
>Lilith Sanic speed is barely needed, you pretty much use it to regenerate health and that's it.
Or you can use it to instantly blow up weak enemies near you with a fire artifact and get your kill skills going instantly. The shock effect works well on anything with shields too.
>>336120057
I know and I actually preferred Maya myself since Lilith seemed boring.
I was just stating the "logic" that gearbox seemed to have used.
>>336120535
>Doesn't matter, it's not a competitive game
It matters because it gives you more damage, accuracy and allows you to use Bloodwing more times. Seriously, are you retarded?
>Or you can use it to instantly blow up weak enemies near you with a fire artifact and get your kill skills going instantly
Why would I do that when is faster and easier to just shoot them? Is fucking pointless.
>>336120462
quadshot smg
-> getting close for max dmg-> reset cd->repeat
Fast paced, Risk and Reward, Almost no Downtime
Sounds like fun to me.
>>336120731
>Lilith "when I'm close to dying I use PhaseShift to heal to full again" the Siren
>Risk and Reward
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>336120835
>unable to kill
>no reset
>no PhaseShift
>risk
I feel BL2 does a far better job of giving the player a set of rpg roles they can fulfill
from Maya being able to heal/revive, to Axels turret buffs, to zero's ganking, to krieg's tank powers, they all feel like more polished and variable classes than BL1's
time to shit on this game with legitimate criticism
Autists shitting up the threads like usual, both of you kys
Guess this is a good thread to ask in. Almost done with BL2, got to the twist withAngel, guess I have a bit to go left. Playing as Gaige, but I also played Krieg almost as far, and the mexican manlet.
When I finish my run, GF wants to duo the game with me. We did it in BL1 with me playing a gunslinger Mordecai and her as a turret focused Roland, and we greatly enjoyed ourselves. She has her heart set on playing as Zero, so I was wondering which character has good synergy? I'm afraid the robot would be stealing her kills, if I'm if I'm a Krieg she may accidentally kill a dude I needed to kill to survive, and I'm not a fan of Maya's special.
>>336110779
I don't have a melee key after playing Krieg, i just have a bloody crater in my otherwise completely pristine keyboard.
Seriously, I love Krieg but it is basically just "press melee to destroy"
Borderlands 1,2 and The Presequel are easily my most favourite games, and i'm not even joking.
I had illegal amounts of fun playing them with my bros, and my favourite character is FUCKING MR. TORGUE.
COME AT ME, FAGGOTS
I'm still pissed ad how they fucked revolvers over in BL2. In BL1, a revolver had a specific use, a high risk vs. reward weapon. Low ammo capacity, slow reload, low fire rate. But, they often had excellent accuracy and huge damage. It was a weapon that paid off when you were patient, waiting for a crit, and punished spraying and praying.
In BL2, they made them a pistol with less ammo capacity.
Also, I hate how they got rid of mashers except for the one legendary. I know that they were incredibly overpowered, especially in the hands of a gunslinger build Mordecai, but they were an incredibly fun weapon.
AND NOW FOR THE BIG "FUCK YOU"
>>336122295
what, this chart is totally not true
who's the idiot who made this?
>maliwan
>no revolvers
>jakobs
>pistols
>>336122703
>>336122783
>When developers are so bad at math the only way they can balance a game is by making numbers scale so absurdly that whatever you were using a few levels ago does so little damage it's not worth using
Shit like this pisses me off.
>>336122892
top left corner
Grew bored of BL1 on act 2 or whatever, after you change a hub location for the first time. Should I try BL2, or is this shit just not for me? Playing solo btw.
>>336107972
/v/ doesn't like it because there are /pol/ crossposters and goobergaters still hanging around
>>336122970
>Should I try BL2
read the thread
>>336111828
>not playing Anarchy Gaige
Do you even fun?
>>336122952
ARE YOU A FUCKING IDIOT?
THERE STILL ARE FUCKING JAKOBS REVOLVER, AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN A JAKOBS PISTOL, YOU DUMBFUCK
>>336111597
>get BTFO
>post smug anime girl
every time
>>336123095
revolvers were removed in Borderlands 2 and merged with pistols.
Every handgun shares the same parts.
>>336123307
Shhh he'll meme you with the le 4chan is weeb reeee
>>336122154
>I'm not a fan of Maya's special.
Shame, Maya pairs well with Sniper Zero since she can lock down big bads for easy headshots. If she goes Melee Zero Krieg might be a fun pairing since you'd both be up in their faces.
I'd recommend Maya since she can help your GF land headshots and depending on your GF's skill level you can easily revive her when she gets downed.
>>336122091
>posting someone elses opinion instead of forming your own
kys
>>336124130
it's the same opinion i share faggot
>>336122462
NOT CENSORING YOUR F***ING WORDS!
ARE YOU EVEN TRYING? YOU SACK OF SH*T!
>>336110112
Once he gets to 30+ the train has no brakes but before that I was struggling.
>>336124237
sure ya do buddy, that's why you saved an image instead of typing it out yourself. That wasn't a blatant shitpost at all, thanks for contributing to this board
>Love the classes in TPS
>It was just a half assed cash grab shorter than BL2 base game with only one expansion for its 'season pass'
They tricked me, but luckily I only paid 50%
>>336122970
>Playing solo btw
This game, like many others, is infinitely more fun withfriends. However, if you don't care about the possibility of people rushing through levels and stealing all the loot just start a single-player game and turn it into a public match.
Drop-in drop-out co-op is one of my favorite things in videogames. I can play a game at my own pace, but people who want to join and leave after a time a free to do so and it doesn't change the game much.
Talking about BL2 btw, Bl1 doesn't have drop-in drop-out co-op ;_;
Whats a generally good co-op team? Right now my friend is just starting for the first time as Gunzerker so I've been on carry duty with Maya with healing/CC but the training wheels gotta come off eventually. Name good team combos for 2 or 3 people.
>BL3 won't have BL1's gun and loot system
I'm still looking forward to it, but goddamn.
>>336124891
literally any characters you dense donkey
one of the favorite franchise, don't understand why is /v/ so butthurt about it
>>336124891
if there's consistently 3 of you you should all pick the same character but skill into the 3 skill trees
But if you're looking for the holy trinity you could try running
>Tank - Krieg
>Healer - Maya
>Dps - literally anyone
>>336123343
>Vermivorous
>>336124891
Maya is good in any run ever. Have someone as Krieg for quick/safe res into berserking.
>>336124891
Almost every character has some team synergy spect: Maya (Obvious), Axton (Shield Dome Turrets are fucking great), Krieg (Can spec into insta-revive a teammate for putting himself into fight for your life), Gaige (Robot can spec into restoring allied shields) and Salvador (Taunting and tanking).
If your friend keeps going with Gunzerker then he'll probably end up pretty tanky so I'd suggest spec-ing Maya into more Phaselock synergy or swapping to another more DPS class.
>I'm pretty sure Zer0 is the only one who doesn't have any skills that help teammates
>>336124891
i've played through normal and true vault hunter mode with a friend with most of the characters now and have literally never specced into any of the skills that help your teammates. it just isn't fucking necessary.
it probably helps more on the stupid higher difficulties but those are garbage antifun anyway
>>336111889
S&S, always and forever.
>>336123343
>0,042%
Well that sounds fair. Never bothered with Vermi because I heard just spawning him is a gigantic pile of bullshit.
I just bought the triple pack. What Im getting from the people here is that I should just play normal and dont bother with UVH mode? Is that right?
I started with Mordecai in 1, planning on using Gaige on 2 and doppelganger on Pre sequel. any tips?
http://bl2skills.com/psycho.html#05505015150150505010155105410100000
Am I in the ballpark with this one?
Borderlands baffles me
It's a loot grinder but it has the level design of a linear single player game
wut
>>336126268
>not going hellborn/mania
You're missing all the fun m8.Bloodsplosion was nerfed to shit a long time ago.
>>336126169
normal and true vault hunter (second playthrough) are both fine, even for solo play
ultimate vault hunter (third playthrough) is ultimate garbage and don't bother
>>336126169
Pistol/Revolver Mordecai is fun
Anarchy Gaige is fun but skill into Close Enough first
Never played Doppleganger, never finished TPS
Don't get too attached to your gear, there will always be better loot
Don't be afraid to play online with other players
Side quests are where you'll get most of your xp, but if you plan on doing multiple playthroughs with the same character you could skip a few and just grind through the Story.
>>336126169
Normal > TVHM > UVHM
Unless you have friends to play with, running through the lackluster story 3 times is fucking boring. I'd concur, just normal mode once with all the DLC.
If you've got friends to play with though, I'd recommend grinding BL2 to the max (Normal mode > TVHM > UVHM > OP8) BL2 just has more content than TPS. Unless of course, you guys prefer the TPS classes. But nothing was more fun for me than BL2's arenas (the Tiny Tina arena one for Ogre farming on OP8 was tough and fun) and melee zero.
>>336126703
>>336126169
>Pistol/Revolver Mordecai is fun
fucking this
if you play BL1 first, which you should, enjoy revolvers while you fucking can. they're the best shit.
pistols become absolute garbage an BL2 and TPS. literally what do they offer over other guns? fucking nothing. maybe if you could dual wield them in a single weapon slot, sure, but they're just a waste of space and it seems like 75% of chests are exclusively pistols
revolvers in BL1 are like handheld sniper rifles
the presequel claptrap dlc was as good as any content in borderlands 2
presequel just had really shitty skill trees and not enough content, and they used actual australian voice actors for some reason
but other than that it was worth a playthrough
How do I fast farm until level 72 so I can start having fun ?
I'm 64
>>336127037
Badass Bar
>>336127037
if you aren't having fun yet you're not going to magically start at level 72
just spare yourself and stop
>>336107972
How the fuck do people enjoy this game? I put 20 hours into it co-opping with a friend and it was one of the most miserable experiences I've had with a shooter. I tried dozens of guns and they all felt like fucking piss to use and enemies are just bullet sponges. The garbage art style is also far too harsh on the eyes to stand for long play sessions.
I can usually understand the appeal in games I dislike but Borderlands is a complete anomaly to me.
>>336107972
Maya best girl.
>>336120064
>>336120516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y4emYPQj5Y
>>336127180
the only guns that i think actually feel satisfying to use are decent sniper rifles
critical hits are satisfying
>>336127180
the primary appeal of the game is that ADS is presented an optional afterthought, as it should be
its a game made for people who correctly understand that all ADS games are (any negative adjective will work)
second it has some diablo skinner box aspects which draw you into it
and I dunno, in spite of its horrible aspects, it does have some fun world building
>>336127118
I'm level 64, if I didn't have fun I wouldnt go this far.
>>336127097
You mean Pyro Pete's bar ?
>>336126065
dont know about that man
maya has 1 skill point that lets you instant revive some1 with your skill
that was pretty usefull
>>336126646
http://bl2skills.com/psycho.html#05505011000050505010155105510155000
ye?
>>336123427
Why do devs nowadays believe that in order to make a character more "diverse" they focus on their sexuality, and sometimes JUST that?
>>336127406
Yes. Just do the 'Kill all the enemies on the bar' or whatever mission over and over.
>>336127406
>>336127756
Or use a save editor, I don't know.
Reminder of the DLC that we will never get due to Australia tax policy
>>336127375
Who cares about ADS if all of the guns feel like shit to use anyway?
The game doesn't excel as a looting experience nor as a first person shooter. It doesn't really excel at anything, it's just a mechanically bland experience across the board. I really cannot comprehend how you could sit down and enjoy playing it. Have you never played another FPS something?
>>336108394
I told him to self-destruct in the first chapter :(It felt like the right choice at the time
>>336110365
I really struggled not to pick "See you space cowboy" but it's not what he would have wanted
>>336123343
To be honest with 4 players you can spawn vermi almost 100% of the time in UVHM
Not that i think the spawn rates in TVHM are good, just saying that they "fix" that later in the game
>>336122703
>>336122783
You realize how bad this is when you play Borderlands again and keep the same legendary weapon for 20 levels. You actually feel attached to it by the time you have to let go
>>336108561
I didn't really find Gortys that distracting, mostly because it was likely designed by an "old" Atlas we never saw.
I mean, Hyperion wasn't a military corporation when they designed CL4P-TP.
>>336128181
>I told him to self-destruct
>davechappellecerealbowlflip.gif
>decided to play through BL1 again after hearing BL3 was officially confirmed
>Greetings traveller, new missions are available at the Fyrestone bounty board!
>Scooter asked me to tell you about uh, a little "somethin' somethin'" he needs done, you should ask him about it!
>Hello! Crazy Earl has more jobs he'd like "that chump Vault Hunter" to do!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>336128426
I recently tried to do OP and realized I still had lvl 50 FOTFH on Krieg.
It did just fine.
>>336128878
I feel your pain, I'm skipping the sidequests on my second playthrough and it's driving me insane.
It's funny how cloud kill went from the worst skill ever to the best she has.
>>336127375
your complaint about ADS is that it slows the gameplay. The poor enemy HP/damage scaling does that. Game isn't run and gun if it has RPG elements and bosses, because enemy encounters are slow. Fighting enemies with low accuracy weapons due to reduced accuracy from not using ADS is fucking annoying as shit. Nobody fucking aims in this game and uses guns as clubs. Why is accuracy a stat when that's not how the game is apparently meant to be played. Every time I ever tried to play with anyone online it's bouncing and running up face to face with enemies and pressing the muzzle up into enemy assholes.
>tfw Borderlands: the movie has a better final boss fight than all the other games
If I were in charge I'd hire whoever worked on Tales for Borderlands 3
>>336129113
What? Did they buff it recently?
>Encountering Hyperion for the first time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOzwPinlrjA
>>336129127
They probably will be involved in some way as TftBL has been very popular
>>336129227
"buff" is an understatement.
Cloud kill went from dealing 70k dps to something like 30M
>>336111942
agree
>>336128929
>on krieg
There's videos of kriegs face raping op 8 with level 1 whites, dumbass. You are playing easy mode's easy mode.
>>336129409
lel, I forgot about that mission.
>>336129370
Shit, looks like I might play through B2 again myself after I'm done withthe pre-sequel. I recently got the DLC and I want to see what that's like. Athena is so much fun and the lasers are dope. Plus freeze is a good effect.
>>336129409
>use that gun in multiplayer
>glitch it so it works on EVERY GUN IN MY INVENTORY
My hatred for that game manifested itself onto other players as I became a blight that cursed everyone with my rage.
