Been playing this thing since the alpha and I must say it's so much better than /v/ gives it credit for. You guys circlejerked as fuck over TF2, this is it. Without the hats, without the retarded OP weapons that fucked up the delicate balance. Now it's skins and NEW characters, no fucking up the balance.
And most importantly, it's fun as fuck. I genuinely want to hear why you want to hate it so much
overwatch is boring no air strafe
awful servers or whatever the problem with the lag at low ping is(apparently tick rate)
and tons more stuff like shitty air strafe etc because it's dumbed down and low skill cap for consoles
lets not forget it will have normal blizzard matchmaking so its shit
>>336020845
>>336020845
Paper thin health gets irritating.
>>336021302
Not OP but most of what you mentioned can be fixed and only will be inexcusable at release. Yeah yeah I know the but it'd beta meme but technically they can justify issues as a result.
Yes, now you and your shillfriends post Tracer and other "waifus" until bumplimit
>>336021302
Literally all those problems are probably because it's still in beta. I'm guessing they will establish will a lot more international servers once the final game goes live.
>>336020845
I'm just worried the game won't last a year or two. I mean everyone is comparing it to TF2, which released in 2007 and is still popular today. I can't see Overwatch doing that at all.
It's a turd
>>336021302
>or whatever the problem with the lag at low ping is(apparently tick rate)
What makes you think you can complain about something you don't even know what is? It can't actually be a problem for you if you don't even understand it.
>>336021596
Because this is what happens with all tripple A titles that are sold to you in beta. They generally get to be really quality products with no problems at all
>>336021615
it's blizzard, they will get you to play the game every month with new content or events or some shit.
Hell i wouldn't be surprised if we see daily/weekly quests some day.
Anyways, wish overwatch had the TF2 soldier in it, rocketjumps and air rockets.
i have the feeling that 1 essential part of TF2 were the physics, they were perfect, i have the feeling that Overwatch won't have such good physics.
And yes TF2 was fucking great before all the additional weapons, Hats, F2P, trading etc.
really hope Overwatch will live up to my hype, 3 more days and i will know.
>>336021908
she clearly gets killed by the rocket on the top left, "eliminations" are also assists.
nice try tho.
>>336021850
Pharas is basically a carbon copy of the soldier with a jetpack instead of rocket jump. Junkrat does have rocketjump though. Kind of a demoman with rocket jump
>>336021908
So you realize that Widowmaker was killed by the splash damage from the rocket right? Hanzo didn't kill her, but he got credit for participating in the kill.
>>336021908
>20 tick rate
It doesn't matter guys!
>>336022047
But their mechanics are dumbed down to hell. Pharah can't even airstrafe or anything
>>336021908
A rocket is what killed her, not the bow
>>336022034
>>336022084
Splash damage from that far away? I call bullshit.
Go away shill.
>>336022047
>with a jetpack instead of rocket jump
wich instantly makes her less interesting and the jetpack only gives upwards momentum.
oh and yea junkrat i understand, but i don't want to play demoman, i want to play TF2 soldier, in a not shitty game
Meh, it's fun but less enjoyable than TF2 imho.
>>336021615
It'll be like heroes of the storm: after 2 months it'll have a population of loyal, dedicated Blizzard fanatics who eat every piece of shit Blizzard craps out, and only shit Blizzard craps out (because only Blizzard can make good games in their eyes)
>>336020845
Will buy if they promise not to go F2P for at least a couple years
>You guys circlejerked as fuck over TF2
This only started when Overwatch was getting closer to release, before that people said nothing or shit on TF2.
>I said this in a thread a day or two ago and people disputed it
Prove me wrong fuckers, after Mannconomy 4chan went completely heel on TF2. F2P only made it worse
>>336021908
how is it come to be widow so be she perfect is as?
I've played up to Lv.50ish and Ive never see this bitch even ONCE. SJW fags blown the fuck out, nobody wants to play your fucking dyke.
HEALTHY
>>336022336
yes
>>336022107
UH WOW YOU FUCKING VALVEDRONE IT'S NOT 20 TICK I'M SICK OF THIS MEME GRRIT'S 20.8 FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!!
>>336022336
Sure thing.
>>336022308
blizzard is too proud to go free to play.
price dropping to 10 bucks? sure that will happen.
>>336022204
She had basically a sliver of her already-tiny health pool left and Pharah's rockets have a generous splash radius, so yeah, it was definitely a rocket kill.
>>336022204
splash damage is bigger than the visual in like every fucking game
also yes OP of the gif is a stupid fag
>>336022385
Nobody plays her because she's worthless to the team and boring.
Her aesthetic, as shitty as it is, has nothing to do with why she's not picked.
>new characters
>not fucking up the balance
can you actually take yourself seriously?
>>336022253
Then just go play TF2 retard.
Honestly I love this game and am sad that /v/ can't appreciate it.
TF2 is full of spergy NEETs spouting memes, why would anyone, even other NEETs, want to partake in that?
>>336020845
Why aren't you using the unpopular opinions thread for your shitpost?
>>336022385
then you haven't played anyone good
>>336022204
>Splash damage from that far away?
Latency. Her position may have been slightly closer than visual on the server and thus, rocket nicked her, since she was so low, it was enough.
But it was definitely the rocket.
>>336020845
Things I like about OVERWATCH: Porn, Widow x Tracer
Things I don't like about OVERWATCH: the game, thickfags, keybegging
>>336022578
>in a not shitty game
TF2 is shit nowadays. i mean i play it every now and then to get my soldier fill
only servers populated are 24/7 same map servers. and you get kids playing sniper spy engie all day
no one said they hate anything OP, your reasoning skills are weak
why would I pay money for another team fortress game, its just quake1, again
why would someone make another teamfortress and not fix the primary problem that teamfortress has always had, which is that snipers do not contribute to objectives, are played by toxic players, and don't have a specific counter other than themselves
>>336022753
>keybegging
The fuck you talking about
There were never any keys
>>336021419
Yeah, characters like roadhog can just cut through half the cast like they're nothing.
>>336022803
People were begging for early access open beta keys, even though it's only a two day difference
>tf2
>a competitive game
>tf2 competitive scene not DoA
let's not even talk about tf2 when it comes to skill, because you fags either don't apply because you're not any good or you're a part of a D E A D community
https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/4h1w3p/lmaobox_premium_detected/
>400+ people banned, every top sniper banned
I'm actually hyped. TF2 has gotten stale as fuck. The majority of people are just trading or playing cancer shit like dustbowl, 2fort and cp_orange only. Comp matchmaking will be in beta forever and regular competitive is autistic as fuck and filled with cheaters, as we are currently finding out.
>>336023124
>2009
>bought TF2 in 2008
>find great server with great community
>join clan
>play ESL
>have the time of my life doing 6v6
man that shit was my jam, sadly it turned to shit.
the matchmaking update is too little too late, don't even care to try it now, they should have made TF3 by this point.
>>336022780
>Snipers cant be countered
But they can, in fact in pro games, most teams will play two tanks just to support their widow.
Is she OP? sure, but not broken
>>336022803
>>336023017
2nd Anon is correct, yesterday they sent out the first waves of Keys for the Open Beta Pre-Order event. 2 days of nothing but Purchasers and their "friends" before the real Open Beta for 5 more days.
>>336020845
Skins are essentially hats, even if they look better than the tf2 cosmetics shitshow.
Also tf2's balance has always been screwy, unlocks or not.
I'm pretty sure /v/ would love Overwatch if it was the exact same game but made by Valve.
>>336023902
>but made by Valve.
And then it would have a shitstorm tied to it related to "They took development away from DoTA 2 for THIS?"
and
>A new game
>After HOW MANY YEARS?
>It's shit, Valvedrones will defend it
Etc.
>>336023607
the simple fact that you can't trade the overwatch skins fixes most of the problem with hats.
>>336024413
>not wanting free money by scamming russian kids
>>336021551
You act like this is a bad thing anon.
>>336020845
Loved:
The amount of characters
The controls
The polish
The art/design
Hated:
The low skill ceiling
The rock paper scissors gameplay
Balanced for MMO trinity style meta.
The matchmaking
>>336020845
>I genuinely want to hear why you want to hate it so much
because viral marketing
>>336026053
How the fuck does that make a game bad ?
>>336022253
You can use her knockback shot to do lateral rocketjumps. I've seen some clutch repositions with it.
>>336026019
This basically summarizes my experience with the game
At least there are some high skill cap heroes (Tracer, Genji, Zenyatta, Soldier 76 if you disregard his ult) and counters are mostly soft counters in the game.
>>336026019
> Low skill ceiling
> Tracer exists
> Hanzo exists
> Genji exists
> Zenyatta exists
>>336027263
They have higher skill ceilings than other characters, but compared to other games in the FPS genre, the overall skill ceiling is low.
The game is basically a laneless, itemless, creepless MOBA in first person.
>>336026019
>>336026959
>>336027263
>genji and tracer high skill ceiling
>balanced for trinity meta
GOD DAMN these meme posts from people who had no rank are terrible
>>336027636
>The game is basically a laneless, itemless, creepless MOBA in first person.
this might be the most retarded thing i have read this week.
>>336020845
>>336021302
I thought people were singing in Overwatch's praises while simultaneously shitting on Battleborn? Did I miss something?
>>336027746
>no rank
Found the CSGO casual.
>>336027773
Explain.
>>336022385
she's insanely strong in proper groups, and nearly useless in pubs.
You'll be seeing a lot of her at high levels of play since her super is really, really strong.
Her design is still retarded.
>>336027874
somehow Battleborn managed to get a weird small following of diehard fans during the last open beta.
and overwatch is just getting waaaay too many threads, even as someone who doesn't care i would start shitposting that.
>>336027994
>remove everything that makes dota dota
>make it first person
>it's first person dota guys i swear without all the dota.
actually you are right, it is a first person shooter moba without the moba elements.
>>336027879
Or you know, just putting hours in and playing against people who are good at the game
to fit your weird CS GO shitposting, it would be like listening to silvers yelling NERF P90
>>336028003
She's not useless at pubs at all. She can fit it a lot of different comps. Having 1 Zarya and no other tank, against competent people, is a problem though.
>>336027746
Who has a high skill ceiling in your opinion?
>>336020845
Needs more Zarya porn
>>336028265
Her super is best when people pay attention enough to destroy everyone you catch with it; I... couldn't get pubs to pay attention to that even using voice.
She's pretty strong otherwise but in my experience she requires absolutely maximal teamwork to be really effective. Like of course teamwork is important period but you can't just completely wreck bottlenecks on your own with Zarya like you can Winston.
>>336023607
>skins are the same as pay2win hats
NO
>>336028448
She does pretty well on her own in my opinion. With 50+ charge she can mow people down while shielding herself. Roadhog and D.va on the other hand feel weak for being tanks. Reinhardt and Winston are the two actual tanks, Zarya is the off-tank and the other two are very situational.
>>336028087
Giant character roster
Rock, paper, scissors counterpick gameplay
Balanced around a specific meta
Low skill ceiling
Emphasis on synergizing abilities and ultimates due to their power
Teamwork/strategy trumps mechanical aim and skill due to all the above
Everything about it screams MOBA. It's just in first person with TF2 game modes rather than the traditional DotA style game mode.
>>336028547
they got rid of the pay2win shit like 3 years ago senpai
>>336028723
>oh no the game forces teamwork and coordination, it must be shit then
>>336028702
Winston is basically king for wrecking bottlenecks which is why really good teams field like 2 of the fuckers.
D.Va was good in casual play for getting people the fuck off a cap point with her self-destruct. The range on the explosion is deceptive as hell. Other than that I hate her.
>>336028723
>Balanced around a specific meta
I love this meme
>Teamwork/strategy trumps mechanical aim and skill due to all the above
it does in TF2 as well, if you think otherwise post your iron account lmao
>>336028892
Any team game requires team work.
Overwatch just happens to kill the skill ceiling by incorporating MOBA elements. Blizzard is casting a huge net with this game and it's going to attract casuals like crazy. CSGO is going to get bumped off as the big casual esports game.
>>336029095
What's your point?
>>336029390
it's part of the genre, if you're worried about aim taking a backseat to team coordination you're playing the wrong type of shooter
If you're actually saying CS:GO is any better I don't even know what to say, CS:GO has so much RNG it's fucking ridiculous
>>336022385
>>336022538
played mostly Zarya during stress test, had 60% win ratio on her and 2:1 final blows to deaths
>boring
easily the most fun tank that's actually effective if you're into shooting people in a first person shooter
I don't see anything wrong with TF2's cosmetics system. It's only the trading that fucked it over and the fact that you can't drop cosmetic anymore : they have to be traded or paid. Atleast they have no bonus on your character, wew.
Honestly i'd like a rocket league like-unlock system, with all the cosmetic tf2 got i think it would be nice to be rewarded for a victory with a little something instead of just satisfaction of winning.
>>336020845
It's close, but not quite tf2 aesthetically. Like, tf2 had a unique, yet cartoony style, whereas overwatch is just kind of "not-pixar". Not that that's bad; the ratchet & clank games were great, for example, but it's a bit more generic in comparison to tf2.
>>336020845
I still have an extra key and no friends to give it to.
Does anyone want it? Post user id if you do.
>>336029718
Obviously. Once the novelty of the character roster wore off I realized it wasn't worth playing.
I'm not saying CSGO is better, I'm saying Overwatch is going to give CSGO a run for its money and claw into that casual FPS market.
>>336030215
pure autism
>I don't care about the game but still post about it without knowing dick
>>336029718
>CSGO
>That games where you shoot the legs to make a headshot
right
>>336030357
I forgot, neo /v/ is just a Reddit hugbox running on Yotsuba.
>>336030703
>I never made a decent argument, so I'm gonna say REDDIT! that will get them!
lmao get fucked
>>336030816
>pure autism
>lmao get fucked
Why are you so mad that I completely shit on this game?
>>336022757
Play comp or wait for new contracts.
>>336031124
>completely shit on it
>said some goofy shit while talking about some other game for some reason
ya ok
>>336028723
>Giant character roster
I wouldn't call 21 heros giant, alot of fighting games have that many characters to pick from
>Rock, paper, scissors counterpick gameplay
Rock, paper, scissors is fine. Especially when that rock can turn into a paper at any time.
>Balanced around a specific meta
I've seen many different strats work, but I guess your 6v6 tf2 2 soldiers, 2 scouts, 1 medic, and a demo is just the pinnacle of no meta
>Low skill ceiling
There is plenty of room to improve in this game
>Emphasis on synergizing abilities and ultimates due to their power
It is a team game
>Teamwork/strategy trumps mechanical aim and skill due to all the above
If you can't aim you will still get fucking destroyed
>>336029718
>cs:go has so much rng it's ridiculous
Why are these shills so fucking obvious?
>>336020845
>I genuinely want to hear why you want to hate it so much
because its made by neoblizzard?
It's a good game, I was looking for a fun/slightly competitive team based shooter and it sounds right up my alley.
CS:GO is too stale and boring for me.
Hopefully Blizzard fixes the ranked matchmaking and buffs D.VA.
>>336032695
D.Va was a fucking raid boss in the Alpha. She got toned down a lot but I agree that now she's the most boring tank to play. She needs something more when on foot... not sure what but she needs something more
>>336032952
Her mech just needs to be buffed, it's easy to land headshots on it and it's like fucking paper.
Either remove the slow when she's firing in her mech or reduce/remove headshots in mech.
There's no reason why she should be the squishiest tank hero.
>low skill ceiling
What is this source of this meme? It's as shootery as TF2 is.
>>336033302
The low skill ceiling is the fact that it doesn't take much to get into and master a Hero, they have relatively low upper limits in terms of actual player skill.
Example: Someone who has been playing Mei for years may not be any better than someone who has been playing her for weeks.
>>336033435
People actually believes this ? For fuck's sake.
>>336033539
>People actually believes this ?
Yes, cause it's true. TF2 had large potential to get progressively better as a player. Overwatch really doesn't, there's no overarching concepts on a per-hero basis, just overarching concepts of what to do and when to do it.
>>336033302
>only 4 ability
>moba ults
they could atleast add creeps to add some skill ceiling but this is worse than league.
>>336033624
>TF2 had large potential to get progressively better as a player.
Dude TF2 was easy mode, shit the only difference between comp soldiers and pub soldiers were fucking rocket jumps and you can learn how to do that in under a day.
>>336033435
this just seems wrong.
getting to know the maps and the positions for pickups flanks and choke points.
knowing how to properly use your movement skills, like lucio and hanzo and tracer.
knowing when to ult.
knowing who to target.
knowing when to push.
knowing all the characters capabilitys.
knowing your own abilitys and when to use them, know their cooldown and timing.
and actually being able to hit something with your weapon.
there is enough skill, and you most likely need to know how to play multiple characters to be competetivly viable, while in TF2, if you were a good soldier, all you needed to play was soldier.
>>336032580
>thinks it doesn't
confirmed for babby that never played another CS game
>>336022175
This senpai. I love how people are this desperate to make this game out to look shit when it isn't. Its exactly what they tried to do with CS:GO with the "bullshit webm"
>>336034567
lol
Anyone got a spare code? plz
[email protected]
>>336034567
>>336035390
lol
>>336035390
Not the guy you were replying to, but I still don't get why CSGO has randomised recoil at all, or why there's not at least an option to turn the randomness off for competitive matches
>>336035852
Because factoring recoil into your game plan is part of the game. If there were no recoil then there would be no point having different weapons since everyone would just use the weapon with the highest damage. Why would you ever need a single shot sniper when a machine gun can drill fifty holes in you from across the map with laser like accuracy?
>>336020845
the nice thing about this is that we all will find out how it really is during the open beta next week
>>336020845
Overwatch is ruined by the maps.
>Make a team shooter
>There's only ONE objective at any given time, meaning teams don't have to make tactical decisions like splitting up and it all just becomes a dumb clusterfuck of 12 people fighting on one spot, dying and running back for 10 minutes
How did Blizzard think this was a good idea?
You could simply have a fucking map with the same fucking objective, but twice
For example: Map with 2 points almost equally far away from each teams spawn point, if you capture one of the points your team gets points until the other team captures the point. You have that on both objectives and you craete a situation where players have to make tactical decisions of splitting up.
>Do we go there with all 6 of our players and maybe risk losing this objective?
>Do we send 3 players there, since only 3 of the enemies are here that maybe means we can win the team fight there while defending this point
etc.
The way it is now it's just two teams clashing on a single fucking spot that moves the entire game, constantly dying and counterpicking in hopes to get 3 more seconds of dominance in than the other team. It's boring. I don't know how people find that exciting
>>336036254
you didn't read it right.
he is asking why there is randomness in CSGO at all.
we all know recoil has a pattern, but bullets don't always go into the place they should be going even according to the pattern especially on longer ranges
>>336021302
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRR SSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTRRRRRRRAAAAAAFFFFFFEEEEE
You might be nitpicking just a little son.
>>336036519
Well teams are only 6 person. All it would do is end up in a stalemate or 3v3 battles all the time
>>336036519
>Natsu is neutered so he can never violate Machi
every day of his life must be a living hell
>>336020845
If vanillla TF2 was released today /v/ would shit all over it and call it an SJW game
>>336036519
>loli
MODS
>>336033790
Did you ever play comp? Talking out of your ass ain't right anon.
>>336028823
I still remember a mod here banning someone publicly for calling those hats P2W
>>336036519
that might work in a game like tf2 where there are more players, but 6 vs 6 doesnt leave a lot of room for splitting up team especially since many characters are only good with the whole team around them
>>336037098
when vanilla tf2 was released people constantly complained that it wasn't serious enough for a shooter, was casual, looked retarded like a low budget pixar movie, accused everyone talking about it of viral marketing, and on and on
anyone who actually played the game went other places to talk about it because people would spam shitpost tf2 threads
>>336037098
>TF2
>SJW game
>not even a single female character
>characters are caricatures of different races
People are going to play it for a few hours, realize how bland and uninspired it is and never touch it again.
There's no sense of progression, there's no skill involved, there's absolutely no reward or prestige in being good at it.
Why would anybody play this?
>>336024179
>Valve
>Shir games
Lmao
>>336037364
But half of each teams players are constantly dead because of how much of a clusterfuck it is anyways
>>336037431
Search your feelings you know it to be true
>>336037098
A SJW game filled with steriotypes and not a single woman besides thedisembodied voice that was the announcer back then?
Bait harder, fucking idiot
>>336036254
Yeah this is what I meant >>336036661
But is it fun for more than 10 hours?
>>336037587
>he actually thinks /pol/ and /v/ would not flip their shith about a character that was white in concept art being made into a black guy in a nationality with literally no black people
First day here, champ?
>>336036519
what do you gain by making teams split up?
you have pretty much the same scenario, teams crowding on one spot, dying and running back for 10 minutes. Only now its happening twice on the same map.
also do you have the same complaint for other games like this? because most team shooters like this are the same
>>336037704
Not even for half an hour. CS:GO is far more rewarding.
20
>>336037704
if you have friends yes
if not then maybe.
you can't do it like in TF2 or CS Source where you just join your favourite server, you need friends to queue up with or have random people.
>>336036870
You know that being neutered also removes sex drive right?
Why do you think you never see neutered dogs trying to fuck things?
>>336037737
.
>A drunk, one-eyed sad drunk that only knows how to explode himself
If anything, they'd be praising for accuracy.
>>336036778
>split up 3v3 battles
This sounds fantastic. Why isn't this in the game?
>>336037530
if you are 'constantly' dead you are doing something wrong
>>336037920
If anything, they'd be screaming it was blackwashing and SJWs forcing diversity on the game where it isn't needed.
>>336037972
game isnt balanced for it
its designed as 6vs6
Demonman is the best
https://youtu.be/han3AfjH210
>>336037972
More than likely, they'll add it in eventually, probably like a 2 point capture thing, 1 per lane, 1 tunnel leading between the points, buildings too high to go over.
>>336020845
I enjoyed it during the betaPharah best girl and main
>>336038085
Look at this, the charm and wit that went into it. Then look at the shit Overwatch put out.
Valve is just so much more talented when it comes to writing, and making games in general.
>>336038084
No it's not, seeing how even """pros""" at the game get killed in the massive clusterfuck and they go "huh what killed me? oh that killed me, i didn't see it
with the shitty FoV and the huge fucking weapon models it's pretty much impossible to actually control a 6v6 situation in this game, especially with how most characters special treat revolves around breaking some kind of rule, like X character being able to climb walls and flank, or X character being able to fly etc.
>>336020845
It's Blizzard.
If it was made by anyone other than the cursed three: Actiblizz, Ubisoft or EA, I would gladly pay 60 bucks for it and enjoy it.
But the thought of giving Blizzard my money makes me want to throw up, it honestly makes me physically ill.
Enough for me to not even sad I won't play this game, the only feeling I get on Overwatch being mentioned is that sick feeling. So there.
>>336037572
>>336037737
No, they wouldn't. It's a reference anyone on /pol/ would know. Maybe some neo-/v/irgins will flip their shit, but they will be quickly overruled.
>>336038296
fov is adjustable you haven't even played
>>336026581
>being this new
are you enjoying your first day on 4chan?
>>336038395
But anyone who isn't the big three the game would just be dead on arrival
>>336038279
well overwatch has a more serious world and themes. while looking cartoony
TF2 is just 2 companies with drunk characters trying to goof around blowing shit up while stealing intel.
>>336038085
To be fair, they do put a lot of similar emphasis into their shorts, just not quite like... that, which has more charm to it.
Also, not all of the Meets launched at release, they were staggered over time. Some were better than others, so give it some time.
>>336038460
i have, it's still shit you can only adjust it to fucking 90
kys
>>336038085
>Look at me! I'm a black Scottish cyclops!
Wonder if this shit would fly past the tumblr defense force nowadays.
>>336038510
As a result TF2 is far more enjoyable and memorable.
>>336038510
>more serious world and themes
I dont care if this is bait or not, I will both laugh and cry at this.
>>336038439
/pol/ is neo /v/irgins and newfags, bro. /pol/ can't stop crying about any black characters for any reason.
Yes, they'd flip their shit and start a shitstorm just to start a shitstorm, just like they do over shit like Linkle, indivisibles cast etc
The fact black scotsmen aren't a thing would only fuel the cries of it being there to please SJWs. If you actually believe /v/ or /pol/ would go "XD THAT'S COOL" in an era of 4chan where so much as having non-extremist right opinions will get you labeled an SJW, I really don'tknow what to say
>>336038582
I'm pretty sure it's 103, but whatever keep lying.
>>336038296
first of all
>overwatch pros
>with the shitty FoV and the huge fucking weapon models it's pretty much impossible to actually control a 6v6 situation in this game
what shitty fov? do you need more than 120?
>especially with how most characters special treat revolves around breaking some kind of rule
like half the cast can do that shit like that, in what way is it 'breaking a rule'?
holy shit dude just git gud, you probably complain whenever mccree ults you despite the fact he yells it and takes a second to charge it
>>336038710
>Overwatch isn't serious in tone
gr8 b8 m8
TF2 exists in a world where every class has an infinite number of clones, and jokes are common
Overwatch takes place in a world where Australia is a nuclear wasteland, there's some war with robots, etc
>>336022336
excuse me?
>>336038582
>kys
Not even him, but you should be executed for using that acronym.
>>336038279
Really ? Did you even fucking see the 2 short movies they released ?
>>336034649
>people are desperately to make games look like shit
That makes total sense.
Maybe the actual problem is that the games *are* shit.
Maybe the actual problem is fanboys of games are desperately trying to defend games they've sunk money or time into when presented with legitimate reasons why the games are shit.
Maybe the actual problem is these cancerous fanboys with no standards are throwing obscene amounts of money at these objectively horrible games thereby shaping the industry into one that pumps out bug-ridden, low skill ceiling, casual shitpiles like Overwatch and CSGO.
>>336037860
>if you have friends yes
You seriously might as well say it's not fucking fun.
Anyfuckingthing is fun with a friend
>>336038638
>tf2 is more enjoyable and memorable than a game that hasnt been released
gee you think?
>>336022107
Jeez 64 tick Is too low for me. And Blizzard thinks 20 tick is acceptable.
>>336038864
Yes, they were over-pretentious tryhard dreamworks shit.
Oh no, the monkey man had feelings for a generic good guy scientist.
Oh no, the purple assassin killed the robot.
Have some fucking fun with this shit, these shorts were so fucking full of themselves.
>WHEN I WAS A GIRL I WAS ALWAYS AFRAID OF SPIDERS
Who gives a fuck.
>>336038896
well wether or not a teambased class based FPS with matchmaking is fun for you or not very much depends on yourself, wether or not you prefer to play something alone or if you would engage in conversation or call shots yourself.
like, unreal tournament is pretty fun alone, great fun with friends.
CSGO is sucks ass alone, while being mildly amusing at times with friends.
>>336038890
No, he's right and it's been a problem here since TOR. Everyone wants to be part of the next great ebin tortanic meme so they pray and try as hard as they can for games to fail so they can go "XD FUCKING DRONES BTFO END OF RINE"
>>336022084
Seeing as the person playing got the kill and isn't using rockets, i think you might be retarded.
>>336039101
the game's interpolation is pretty good, I havent had any issues with 20 tick
source engine interpolation is shit, games like tf2 and csgo need 64 tick
>>336021908
>dies from aoe damage
>this is an issue
?
>>336039107
>WHEN I WAS A GIRL I WAS ALWAYS AFRAID OF SPIDERS
>WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY I WAS ALWAYS AFRAID OF BATS
it's on par with movies and comics. kek.
>>336039147
the text pops up for everyone who did damage to the enemy,
blizzards way to avoid toxic behavious and "killstealing" they pulled the same shit in Heroes of the storm where every participant "eliminated" the enemy and got triple kills.
>>336039136
>The everyone wants another TOR meme
Jesus christ, go chug bleach.
>>336036519
Better than a cluster fuck of 24 people in a map at least.
“CHEERS, LOVE! THE CAVALRY’S HERE!”
“ONE SHOT, ONE KILL.”
“WITH EVERY DEATH COMES HONOR. WITH HONOR, REDEMPTION.”
“DEATH WALKS AMONG YOU.”
Such great and inspired writing. I love hearing it every fucking time people respawn.
>>336039147
how can you tell? this was before the killfeed was implemented so you cant be sure who got the kill
that being said, it makes more sense that a rocket got the kill and not an arrow that landed 5 feet away
>>336039412
>I called it a meme, I win guys!
>>336039516
>Everyone wants to be part of the next great ebin tortanic meme
Suck that bleach down, kiddo.
>>336038821
so serious
>>336039598
>teenagers want to fit in on /v/
You actually deny this?
>>336039667
What's not serious about Australia being nuked?
>>336039862
What is serious about Australia being nuked?
>>336039771
>game is shit
>people call it shit
>everyone agrees and moves on
>game is shit
>people call it shit
>"wow there's that tortanic meme again! when are these guys gonna stop with the stupid memes, i'm tired of the memes memes memes memes"
One of these is more annoying than the other.
>>336039771
>teenagers want to fit in on /v/
Yeah, that's why you're spouting the tortanic meme.
>pre-order Overwatch
>get skins
>get early access
>get 15% off through Amazon prime
>47.99USD for origin edition
>more hero's for free in the pipeline
>already have 4 more hero's than announcement
>competitive scene is going to be real
What were the downsides for Pre-ordering *THIS SPECIFIC GAME*
>>336040139
Annoyance has nothing to do with it, anon.
>>336039771
>he legitimately thinks 4chan killed TOR
My, summer is early this year.
>>336040152
>can still do nothing but call it a meme
It's okay anon, I am SURE you have a good reason for wanting a game that's hyped to all hell to fail, and it has NOTHING to do with your desire to see ebin lulz
>>336040318
It's like the second or third most populated MMO right now. Far from dead. Also May really isn't all that early for Summer, anon.
>>336040302
That's because you're being the annoying one.
>>336038219
I cant find this video, all i find is tracer ones. Can an anon enjoy some sweet chocolate sauce please?
A link please ;_;
>>336040461
I guess you shouldn't have angrily replied to my post stating a fact and just let it go? Did you think you'd respond and I'd bow down? Why bitch about getting replies when you started the whole thing?
>>336040568
>when you started the whole thingI didn't
>>336039220
the game's interp is terrible you must have spent 0 time playing hitscan picks
>>336040229
the "don't preorder anything" thing is so fucking annoying, not everyone is poor. and especially a game with an open beta, where you know what you will get is safe to preorder.
>>336040139
>disagreement is annoying, dont do it!
now this is a spicy meme
>>336040729
most of my time was on 76 and widow
>>336040938
you probably have shit internet and live in a 3rd world country and were causing rollback issues for other people then
>>336040938
>>336040563
zalsfm
>>336040754
Honestly, after the first stress test weekend that I got to play, it solidified that this game was worth the money, so why shouldn't I have pre-ordered.
And plus because it's Amazon, I am not charged for the game until they ship it out to me.
>tfw I got myself a job recently so I can afford things like this on a whim
Should I wait for the "next gen" GPU's to drop to upgrade, or should I get a 980ti or R9 390x?
>>336041036
I have shit internet and thats why I had no issues?
i'd love to hear you rationalize that
>>336041093
It will do. Thanks!
>>336020845
Overwatch runs like shit for me.
Battleborn doesn't run at all.
Tf2 not even worth the bother.
>>336041168
netcode uses a combination of prediction and rollback
when the server isn't getting updates very frequently and one of the clients takes longer to update, the server considers them not as far behind the actual server time and a player with lower latency will frequently have situations where they shoot players with higher ping and it rolls back to a miss or they get shot "around corners" because of how long the update period is
on a higher tick setting, the player with high latency gets pushed behind because it has to interpolate more of their actions, and they'll experience more frequent latency based rollbacks because of other players' actions affecting theirs before their client gets the update
low tick = rollbacks favor laggy people
high tick = game is smooth and reponsive for low latency players and high latency players will experience more rollbacks
>>336041718
I'm impressed
if I didnt know about how game netcode works I probably would have believed you.
just so you know, low or high tick would affect people with high ping the same. They might have to interpolate more ticks in a high tick scenario, but its still the same amount of time.
and finally, getting shot around corners is simply due to lag. No matter the tickrate the server will take some time to tell you that you died.
>>336041376
>>336022538
Shitter confirmed, she's the easily the highest dps tank.
>>336041718
theres no rollback in overwatch from what I have seen. Things like hits and damage are calculated by the server
so you dont see a situation where you fire a rocket at someone, see them take damage, then see that damage roll back because you actually died before you fired it.
you would see instead that the rocket hit someone and did no damage (in an extreme case)
>>336042427
no you retard because there are more client actions that the server is receiving from low ping players in the same period if the tickrate is higher
getting shot around corners due to latency by high latency players is BECAUSE of interpolation
interpolation is a form of prediction that combines with rollbacks
the server time compared to client updates determines how likely you are to see rollbacks in a given situation where there had to be a lot of interpolation of one client's actions
in a low tick situation a high latency player can get a kill firing at someone who wasn't there anymore according to the server due to interpolation averaging, in a high tick situation the server has a more precise view of their location and can determine that the shot should definitely have missed
>>336042823
things like simultaneous deaths around a tick update are a rollback
rollbacks are on the order of milliseconds, they're subtle and not dramatic unless your ping is in the thousands
>>336043319
>no you retard because there are more client actions that the server is receiving from low ping players in the same period if the tickrate is higher
we were talking about server tickrate, if you want to talk about client tickrate thats another issue, because for overwatch thats much higher (40 or 60 I believe)
>>336043319
>things like simultaneous deaths around a tick update are a rollback
thats not a rollback, thats the server determining that both players died on the same tick, nothing is being 'rolled back'
I preordered.
Widowmaker is my favorite so far, but I get the feeling I'm going to end up playing Mercy or Lucio the most.
It will probably be the same as other genres where nobody wants to play support.
>>336043319
>in a low tick situation a high latency player can get a kill firing at someone who wasn't there anymore according to the server due to interpolation averaging
thats not games work when a dedicated server is involved
if you kill someone on your screen the server wont necessarily agree, especially if you are lagging.
if the server didnt sanity check gamestates it would be trivial to hack
>Overwatch
>balance
AHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>336043552
in a low tickrate server the ability of low ping players to send data faster and more frequently doesn't matter nearly as much that's the whole point
your client can take a bunch of actions during an update period and then it averages the interpolation it simulated with the updates
since it has to interpolate a lot for people it isn't getting many updates from, and the time period on a low tick server is longer, there are many more instances where a server will give a low ping player interpolation for a high ping player that's it later decides didn't actually happen
since the server is effectively averaging interpolation data against client updates you'll almost never see rollbacks if you have low ping and the tickrate is high
>>336043675
your client is constantly rolled back to the server time, it determines that your actions after a certain timepoint didn't actually happen in some circumstances and ignores those updates
since interpolation is a predictive average this is far more likely to happen the more it has to interpolate, i.e. when there are high latency players in a low tickrate server
No buy until 124tick. 20 tick is horrible and while 64 would be mediocre.
Why would you want mediocre in a AAA title?
>>336043904
I played for 2 days and I always had the most kills and most damage with pretty much any characters, even that one game I played Zarya, so I'm certainly not going to play support because then who's going to do the deeps man?
>>336043946
it doesn't agree because it decided that it interpolated incorrectly after it finally updates
the whole point is that the actions of high latency players get too much weight when things are averaged at an update, it matters less how far they are behind server updates
>>336044263
worse than 144hz fags, or screen response time or field of view autists.
>>336044007
TF2 was also never really balanced, never had to be though.
i feel like in FPS games there is no need for 100% balance because player skill can always make up for a character being worse than others, just hit better.
>>336044261
>your client is constantly rolled back to the server time
this doesnt happen in overwatch. The server confirms your actions, you will not see actions performed then then taken back because the server said they didnt happen, the actions just dont happen until the server says so
>>336044503
>TF2 was also never really balanced, never had to be though.
every competitive game should be balanced, theres literally no reason not to
>>336044503
>people with standards are bad
People like this are why games are shit today.
>>336044449
zenyatta is a DPS with fire and forget healing and a tank buster debuff, works for me when I want to support
>>336044261
>server will give a low ping player interpolation for a high ping player that's it later decides didn't actually happen
jesus christ dude, are you just reguritating words you saw on an article somewhere?
if interpolation is done it isnt the server doing it, if thats the case why not just fucking tell the client what is happening instead of giving them interpolated data?
>>336044654
well competetive TF2 was balanced because both teams ran the same composition (with some exceptions ofcourse)
same will happen in overwatch.
if you wanna be competetive you gotta pick the best shit.
doesn't mean there can't be worse characters for fun on pubs.
>>336044802
latency compensation is a form of interpolation that gets averaged against client actions
client interpolation is only for movement, but interpolation accuracy is a function of latency and tickrate
>>336044904
>doesn't mean there can't be worse characters for fun on pubs.
sure but that doesnt mean the game is balanced
>>336039862
Its not serious in that it just allows them to make mad max jokes.
>>336045178
>>336044654
>TF2 was also never really balanced, never had to be though.
that was my point.
>>336045320
and its backed up by nothing.
why would a competitive game not need to be balanced?
are you saying it was valve's goal to make classes that arent as strong as others?
what good could come of that?
>>336025958
There are porn sites for you kanker sores to fuck off to.
>>336045472
>>why would a competitive game not need to be balanced?
if both hardcore esports teams have the same options then it is kinda balances, not each character being balanced but a competetive match is balanced.
>what good could come of that?
Fun, playing Spy is fun, not very effective but fun.
>>336045472
Certain kinds of classes can't be allowed to be good if you want to be playing a good game.
>>336045670
>its balanced if you just ignore the things that arent
look im not saying tf2 is so unbalanced thats its horrible or anything like that. But how can you be in such denial?
you say the spy is fun but not effective, why is that fine? what would be the issue with making the spy just as effective as other classes?
>>336045709
I would say a game where some classes arent good isnt a good game
I think I know why Blizzards wants to do legacy servers.
>>336046061
There's no way to balance certain effects or abilities for a high skill level. They're included and made intentionally bad just for the sake of variety.
>>336046281
I thought they didnt want to do legacy servers
>>336020845
Blizzard managed to make an FPS with a skill ceiling as low as CS.
No thank you.
>>336046321
>theres no way to balance it
then its shit
>>336046395
They are talking with the Nost team right now and all their new games flop outside hearthstone.
>No mods
>no server browser or equivalent to find specific servers running modded or custom content
>cash shop skins, no way for you to earn through gameplay or challenges
>has map layout syndrome of "Respawn, run into large firefight in center of map, get kills, die, wait, respawn, run into firefight in center of map, etc."
>dearth of interesting objective modes that work with team size and composition
>modern blizzard
>large cast of characters, none of which are particularly interesting or have any sort of fun personalities. voices and dialogue is gratingly awful
Why would I buy this again?
>>336046395
They aren't doing Legacy servers.
They are doing "modern servers with no level acceleration."
Basically Vanilla WoW in terms of Xp gain, but nothing else.
>All this conversation
>Not a single key dropped
wow.
