They removed the preorder bonus, what's your excuse now?
Also, what faction will you play at launch?
DA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
>>336003359
>what's your excuse now?
It's still Total Kikeshit War. Wake me when Ultimate General 2 is announced.
>>336003359
ill wait for the dark elves/high elves version
All Total War games are the same game with different skins.
>no skaven
>no buy
>>336003359
>another infantry-centric faction
I'll wait for Asurs, Druchii or Skaven.
>>336003682
Not true, the gameplay mechanics are very different
>>336003359
>tfw the charges
unf
I'm not pre-ordering a total war game after the Rome 2 shit. I'm going to wait and see.
>>336003359
>They removed the preorder bonus, what's your excuse now?
I never liked the strategic map thing in these games (or any Civ type game for that matter) and the combat was always shit (especially the AI) in the Total War games.
>>336003359
What excuse? Its Segs why would i purposly suck on aids?
>>336003780
ai is always the same crap tier, tactic is always the same.
total war did not improve, i liked medieval 1 and now they just added annoying ugly 3d campaign map and useless campaign features, but anything else is always the same.
fucking ai, fucking 3d map fuck this shit i don't pay money for all the reskins.
maybe warhammer is a little bit different but never worth the 50 bucks.
>>336003905
You can always play multiplayer or custom battles if that's your thing
>>336003359
>what's your excuse now?
They never made Rome 2 fun. I have no desire to buy CA games when I can just mod Med2 and Rome 1 to my specific taste.
>>336003979
>the only way to play total war is against ai
nigga, the magic and unit changes are going to make mp a blast
>>336003979
>ai is always the same crap tier, tactic is always the same.
think.
>not 40k
Whatever, who cares.
Will this game have best Fantasy faction?
Chaos Warriors looks terrifying, it makes me almost want to play them. Greenskins will still be my first faction though.
>>336004117
No because this game is Warhammer Fantasy. Not Warhammer 40K set in the cavemen times.
>>336004117
>Ground Marines
Please no.
>>336003771
>druchii
>not infantry centric
do u even gigablocks of corsairs
>>336003359
>not 40k
>>336003771
Skaven is also infantry centric. They have HUGE armies of rats in addition to their beasts and machines.
>>336004264
Didn't they replace the Human faction in fantasy though?
>>336003359
>there will never be a ruse like w40k game
I am sad
>>336004117
No, it's even before end times.
>>336004482
good, because that game was crap.
>>336003668
>wanting to play as elves
do you suck dicks
>>336004335
>drake memes
>likes 40k
Hows being 16
>>336003359
The steam page still says Chaos is pre-order/first week only. Where are you seeing that this isn't the case?
Warhammer Fantasy fits the total war battle gameplay better.
>>336004523
game was bad but concept was promising
>>336004582
meant for >>336004335
>>336004569
It went from a preorder bonus to ''Early adopter'' bonus. You can buy the game a week after reading reviews and still keep the faction
>total war game
>playable at launch
>>336004723
They changed the pre-order thing so maybe they actually think the game will work this time.
>>336004465
This is the last game in the old lore.
The last hurrah if you will.
>there are actually underaged children in this thread who want their edgy 40k trash instead of the much more interesting (and now dead) Warhammer Fantasy
Neo-/v/ everyone
>>336004723
Napoleon, Shogun 2 and Attila were playable at launch.
>>336004637
Yeah sadly being forced to buy a game before it's launch issues are fixed is only marginally better than buying it on day one.
>>336004840
>They want Games Workshop's flagship product
Yeah fuck em.
>>336003359
>They removed the preorder bonus
>What's your excuse now
Why would I pre-order NOW they're took the bonus away?
>>336004840
The main problem is that 40k doesn't fit total war battles at all.
A 40k Wargame would be a much better fit.
>>336004840
Well, why is it dead if it's so great then?
>>336003813
Sadly Demigryph Knights are a thing of recent editions and therefore shit. True imperial knights ride horses, and that's good enough.
>>336003359
Fuck, undead or Orcs. I really can't decide.
>>336003359
>They removed the preorder bonus
They didn't.
Stop lying every fucking thread you make.
>>336004840
>Generic wizards and elves shit
>More interesting than 40k
Sure mate
>>336004986
Yeah, space wizards and space elves are so much better.
you got to be a faggot to want 40k over this
>>336003359
Fuck you for getting me slightly excited OP.
>>336004940
>recent editions
Somehow that doesn't have as much impact seeing as it's dead.
>>336004840
They're both edgy as fuck, they're almost literally the same except for the time period.
>>336004840
/v/ has never given a fuck about your gay table top "games". You're talking about YOUR fellow autists that have a history of buying overpriced miniatures and reading autistic books.
>>336003813
>a single charge taking off 70-80% of a units health
>no change in momentum
this is going to be overpowered bullshit in multiplayer fampais.
>Total War
>60 Freedom Monies
>Pre-Order/Early DLC
>Every Merc band will be 5 Monies
>Two expansions already announced
>Predictably 180 Monies for everything
>Just for a reskin of the reskin of the reskin of the reskin of the original
Skaven is the only interesting faction to me, hope Nagash ends up coming later on as well.
>>336004928
Because while the setting is great, the books sold well and the Roleplay was popular, there was a problem with the actual game. The formation based gameplay and the need for massive armies for the game to be good led to small sales. Instead of taking influence from the LotR game or supporting Mordheim style modules, GW went full retard and decided that what the game needed was SPACE MARINES and destroying the setting.
Ironically Age of Sigmar sells even less than old Fantasy models and nobody plays with the official rules which don't even have point limits.
>>336005169
>buying from steam
Jesus christ
>>336005138
>/v/ has never given a fuck about your gay table top "games"
Hey man, welcome to 4chan. Try not to get offended by what people say here, it's generaly not aimed at you personaly.
>>336004940
There's nothing wrong with Demigryph Knights.
>>336005318
Bet you have "custom" figures too because you can't buy legit ones.
>>336005129
Nah, not exactly. Much of the 40k books are grim and dark (except Ciaphas Cain) and the lore is full of so retarded things that the term "Grimderp" was invented.
Fantasy has dark themes but life in the Empire, Dwarven holds, Bretonnia, Wood elf lands and High elf lands is still portrayed as a place where people could live. Its closer to actual medieval times if the woods were infested with beastmen.
Its also apparent in the roleplay.
Fantasy always had a more grounded look to it.
>>336005603
>buying toys
lmao
>>336003359
>its another CA shill thread episode
at least use an original title so its not so obvious faggot
i'll torrent it to see how broken it is at release, then when the expansions come out buy it i guess
I never really got into Warhammer Fantasy, but know a bit about the old lore. Can someone fill me in with what Age of Sigmar changed?
>>336005617
I guess you could say that 40k is so over the top it becomes ridiculous while fantasy is more gritty and down to earth.
>>336005640
Figures sir, they are figures.
Fantasy is dog shit
Orks > Orcs
40K Chaos > Fantasy Chaos
>>336005798
Everything.
Forget the old map, they basically fight in bubbles that float in space now.
Some armies got killed off, along with basically 90% of named people. For whatever reason, you can still play with them, but they don't exist in the fluff anymore.
Oh, and Fantasy has SpessMuhrines now. Because those boring shits taking over 40k wasn't enough.
>>336005815
Not ridiculous. Ridiculous can be good in bite-sized chunks.
40k is flatout retarded in no good way. It's fucking retarded.
>Playing a Total War game at launch
Will they ever learn?
>>336005798
Just read 1d4chan about End Times and Age of Sigmar.
In short GW made a "rocks fall everyone dies" and destroyed the entire Fantasy world.
The reboot is completely fucked. Its something about Sigmar fighting chaos with Space Marines on several different planets. As for gameplay the AoS rules are trash, you cam bring as many models on the table as you want with any equipment you want
>>336004854
>shogun 2 playable at launch
>desync issues for over a year in multiplayer
>crash issues in singleplayer
>still riddled with bugs that break the game to this day
>ridiculously long loading times even on an SSD because the cucks couldn't do multithreading
I like total war but don't pretend their games are ever good on launch
>>336003359
no they have not removed it. also denuvo bullshit
So what is this free playable race is supposed to be? I expect something that's already in the game as neutrals, like bretonia or something they feel is worth so little they can give it out for free
>>336005972
>>336006118
None of that makes any sense. Must sting for Fantasy players. I haven't touched my 40K miniatures in like 9 years now, how out of date would that shit be?
>>336003359
>what's your excuse now?
Never buy CA games on launch.
>>336006196
its that other human race
Bretons or something
>>336006181
>also denuvo bullshit
PIRATE FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>336006196
It's Bretonnia.
>>336006152
What's more Napoleon is an Empire add-on and Attila is a Rome 2 add on
>>336004723
>>336005798
>>336006198
I HATE ANIME POSTERS SO FUCKING MUCH! GO FUCK YOURSELF TO SOME KIDDY SHIT OR WEEB TRASH THREADS AND LEAVE MATURE GAMES THREADS ALONE!
I WOULD TROW MY LIFE AWAY IF I COULD MURDER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU
>>336006198
Yeah, they're pretty assblasted.
But at least they have the joy of knowing that GW WILL eventually do the same to the 40k community.
>denuvo crap
I don't want that shit running on my system.
>>336006357
>I WOULD TROW MY LIFE AWAY IF I COULD MURDER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU
Thank you for your sacrifice.
>>336006357
I'm not spending a cent more than $30 for the complete package. Rome 2 complete fell down to $15 mere 2 years after release, so I won't be waiting long.
>>336006357
>is on 4chan
>is on a site that was literally made to discuss about anime
>complains about anime
Kek. Go back to plebbit, you should be safe there.
>humans
>orcs
>dwarves
>undead
>chaos
boring as fuck, surprised they didn't add elves too
>>336006357
>>336006438
>Rome 2 complete fell down to $15 mere 2 years after release,
What.
Where?
>>336003359
I really don't understand the appeal of this series.
The tactical map isn't nearly as in depth as other, better 4x games.
The battles have terrible AI and are nowhere near as in depth as other, better RTS games.
Why the fuck would I want to play a horrible mismatch of these two poorly fused genres?
I liked medieval 2 and shogun 2 but not enough to want to pay more than 10 bucks for any of these games
multiplayer is even more mediocre if you try to play it the way the game is made
(hey let me sit through this 30 minutes battle by myself lol no really its important)
you really only have two options for multiplayer
to skip 90% of the battles and therefore you might as well be playing crusader kings
or you do an RTS skirmish and then you might as well be playing age of fucking empires
Hopefully I'm getting paid on the 10th of May so I might afford it
>>336006493
In a humble bundle.
>>336006474
>waaaa wer r my spac mareens
>>336006438
Same here. conveniently 2 years is also how long you have to wait before the game is in a playable state
>>336006474
We'll get wood elves eventually as dlc.
High and Dark aren't in the part of Old World that's the focus of this part of trilogy.
>>336006474
Nobody asked for your worthless opinion you piece of shit
>>336006507
i don't know man maybe be people like different things
>>336006470
>4chan is all about anime
Truly autism.
>>336006532
...Fuuuuuck.
>>336005798
>Can someone fill me in with what Age of Sigmar changed?
Glad you asked.
>>336006493
I got the whole collection on humble bundle for about 15 I guess it was.
>>336006595
Sure showed me, newfag
>>336006657
Go watch some Neon Gentile Evolution you autistic retard.
>>336003979
tactics of warfare were pretty much the same throughout all of history ya astro sperg.
>>336006507
>The tactical map isn't nearly as in depth as other, better 4x games.
4x don't have a tactical map you mongoloid.
I stopped reading on the second line, a new record for the retarded shit I read here
>>336006613
Yep, it was actually easy to miss because "holy shit, yet another identical TW bundle*
*except this time with Rome 2 in the highest tier.
>>336006537
more like where are the lizardman, tomb kings and skaven?
>>336004986
>40k
>not generic
It's fantasy in space with added DARKNESS you useless nigger
>>336005153
demigryphs are probably going to be a super expensive unit type, while night goblins are the most cannon foddery of the cannon fodder, so i wouldn't get too worried
>>336007080
>so i wouldn't get too worried
So you didn't see the Chaos video where Chaos knights sent super heavy dwarf infantry in shield wall flying away like cannonballs.
>>336003359
My excuse is Mannfred fucking Von Carnstein.
Fuck that bitch.
Gimme litterally any other vampire lord, Vlad, Konrad, fuck, I would even take a fuck OC do not steal Vampire lord over that fucking faggot Manfred bitch.
>>336007080
Demigryps are monstrous cav, they're going to do that shit to any infantry, maybe not on black orcs or chaos warriors
I don't even understand what's the point of the rider with a weapon when all the fighting is done by the mount desu
>>336007169
There's no such thing as shield wall, stop lying
>>336007196
Just use a generic vampire or wight lord, you're not forced to use Von Carnstein
>>336007296
I'll have to look into it more then.
He isn't forced in any mode, campaign or anything?
>>336007196
At least Mannfaggot looks like the lord of homohobos that he is.
But yeah, they really need to toss Mannfred and bring in one of the good Vamp leaders.
>>336007362
I mean, you'll have the guy but you can just park him in your capital
Or if he bothers you so much choose Heinrich Kemmlerinstead
>>336006357
mad?
>>336007196
>Gimme litterally any other vampire lord
Done.
>>336003359
Its still only for a week, still not buying it because it uses denuvo i was going to but i changed my mind because of it
>>336006385
I'm actually really glad I stopped playing tabletop before I sunk anymore money into it. I was an easily impressionable youngster by the grimdark
>>336007465
Meh. Playing Vampire Counts and having the big boss be a human...
Shit, I don't even think I'm being that difficult. The vampires in Warhammer are some fucking kickass beings, fun as hell and look great.
Why do they need to shoehorn the ONE fucking vampire that sucks balls?
>otal War: Warhammer's Chaos Warriors pre-order bonus will now be offered free to all players who purchase the game during its first week on sale, Creative Assembly has announced.
So it's essentially still just pre-order DLC.
You still have to buy and play their guaranteed broken, buggy and possibly unplayable game during the launch week.
This means that I'm still gonna pirate.
Who the fuck thought that taking out the most iconic faction from Warhammer fantasy and adding it as a pre-order DLC was a good idea?
Does anyone actually believe that they at first intended to make a Warhammer game without chaos, but later added in chaos as an afterthought?
No, they carved up their finished product to sell the pieces as DLC, the worst fucking practice in the entire industry.
I'm not gonna fucking award that with a sale.
>>336003359
I'll wait til it launches before I buy. Then I might refund if it runs like shit.
I'll probably play the vampire counts or chaos since edgelord.
But I really have a boner for necromancy.
>>336006403
great movie you must be french
>>336007685
I think (don't take my word for it) they mentioned somewhere that every faction will get another legendary lord post launch, so maybe they will add Vlad
>>336007754
>So it's essentially still just pre-order DLC.
No, it's essentially not.
>>336007664
What are you, poor?
>>336007774
Yes. YES. YEEEEEEEEEEEES!
Fuck yeah for Vlad
>>336007814
Yes it is.
You have the launch week to buy the game and play it.
After that, you wont get chaos anymore.
If you think buying a Total War game on launch day or even the same week, is a good idea, even after the Rome 2 debacle, you are a retard.
They're still just using the chaos DLC to move copies before people catch on how fucking broken their game is, again.
>>336006804
>4x don't have a tactical map you mongoloid.
>what is dominions, sots, endless legend, eador, and age of wonders
???
>>336007196
The game was being made before Storm of Chaos got retconned by end times, so I suspect we won't see Vlad and all of the Vampire Counts stuff will revolve around Mannfred.
Also means no resurrection of Nagash and cool stuff which is sad.
>>336007964
>buying a Total War game on launch day
never ever unless it's a dirt cheap key
>>336007828
That costs more than my car did.And yes, wageslave
>>336007964
>You have the launch week to buy the game and play it.
So it's not, thanks for clearing that out.
Normal people only buy total kike games during the -75% sale
>>336008038
Does this cost more than your house?
>>336008076
You mean children and NEETs
>>336007964
>1 week is not enough for reviews to come out
You really don't have a good argument
>>336005097
Yes.
>>336008003
This shit's not fair.
>>336008003
>>336008226
I think it's supposed to be the year Karl Franz became emperor
>>336006198
>None of that makes any sense
It does, it sucks to say but there were very few places with a healty fantasy community and WFB just wasn't selling partly because you needed so many more minis and it was just more expensive. And less people playing means less people adopting on top of that. Getting a 40k game isn't hard in most places, getting a Fantasy one could be.
Besides I'm a bretonnia player, I'm used to GW walking over me.
>>336004482
Final liberation you underage
How similar is are these games compared to a classic RTS like Starcraft?
>>336008432
Completely different
The only thing they share is that you select units with your left click and give them orders with your right
>>336008432
Nothing, really.
>>336008432
Not similar. Total War games requires skill, where Starcraft requires a coke induced asian doing 9999999 clicks per minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EIkvHD7MU8
Game looks fun, but because of Denuvo and Rome2 I'll get a cheap grey market key. Sorry CA.
>>336008357
Really? I thought it was set during Archaon's invasion. I guess that will give like a 20 year period before he invades.
Yeah, removed it, for one week.
>>336008659
If they are going to make a fantasy total war exciting, they need to put it in earlier timeline, because the whole end-time shit is so fucking boring.
>>336008106
I rent, but goddamn who would buy that?
>>336008416
Yeah almost no-one played Fantasy at the local GW in my city, though that's understandable because I live innewsheepland
>>336008659
I might be wrong but I don't think this is supposed to be everchosen Archaon, but scrub Archaon without the treasures.
Maybe you will get the treasures yourself through quests
>>336008789
I dunno, Skaven blowing up the moon and Nagash returning are pretty cool.
>>336008870
Yeah, I figure that's what his quests will be all about.
>ameriturd fantasy
>ameretard sci-fi
DUDE ARMOR THAT FITS FAT PEOPLE LMAO
>>336008028
>Buying any AAA game launch day
kekerino
>>336008057
It ESSENTIALLY is, I never said LITERALLY, you fucking autist.
The fact that you have to buy it day one or the days after day one to get the "DLC", serves the same purpose as having it as a pre-order DLC.
Only it now tricks people into thinking it's not the same thing, when it, in essence, serves the same purpose, but people are somehow okay with it.
The "DLC" should never be DLC to begin with, it should be a part of the base game.
>>336008187
>Implying the small sample size of reviewers will find any sizable amount of the massive amounts of bugs which plague TW games.
>Implying games with several game breaking bugs in the past have never gotten good reviews.
*cough*Arkham City*cough*
>Implying that some people wont rush out to buy in order to catch the DLC train only to find that the game breaks 30 hours in.
>Putting this much faith into games media.
Moron.
Carving out pieces of your game to sell as DLC is the scummiest shit you can do in this industry.
Fuck SEGA and fuck Creative Assembly.
No consumer in their right mind would be okay with this.
So I'm just gonna brush you fags off as marketing shills.
Suck my dick, cunt.
>>336004940
>Hating on cute Demigryphs
GET OUT!
>>336009001
>>Implying the small sample size of reviewers
You mean all the people that will play the game?
You REALLY don't have a good argument.
If you pre order you get a special edition dota item in september. You can probably sell it for like half the price of the game so pre order now!
>>336009138
I preordered, what item is that?
>>336003359
Open World Extreme super hardcore RPG of Warhammer when?
>>336009047
>You REALLY don't have a good argument.
Better to have a "bad" one that none at all, you autist virgin faggot.
At least I'm not the one for companies carving out pieces of their game to sell as DLC.
Practices which damages me as a consumer.
>>336008962
GW is an English company you retard
>>336009558
You're the one trying to make an argument that the DLC being free for the first week is the same as preorder DLC, when the whole point of preordering games is bad is because you have no way of knowing how the game will be beforehand.
Your argument is really weak, if there's any at all in the first place.
>>336009652
Not him, but if the dlc can be "free" the first week, why it can't be "free" forever?
>>336009001
>Carving out pieces of your game to sell as DLC is the scummiest shit you can do in this industry.
Except that's not what happened at all. You can choose to believe everyone is lying, but it's still conspiratorial.
CA outright said that they had no major plans for Chaos in the first game except as NPCs. They figured people probably would want to play chaos so they went to SEGA and asked for more money to do it. The way they got the money was to make it pre-order DLC, which is effectively taking marketing budget and using it to make stuff for the game.
You're free to not believe it, but it's an irrational belief to hold without any sort of concrete evidence to the contrary of CA's word.
>>336009001
as i said if you can buy it for 20 euroidoos why would you wait 2 years an eventual steam sales ?
>>336009795
Because it's made with marketing budget, the whole point is to attract first week and first day sales, which are the key timeframe.
>>336009846
>it's made with marketing budget
You sure it's not made with the extra 10€ TW:warhammer costs as opposed to the older games which were 49.99€?
>>336007754
>This means that I'm still gonna pirate.
No you're not. Denuvo, my friend. Denuvo.
Whatever you happen to think about the game their pre-launch information dump has been rather good. Having hours of gameplay footage up before the game comes out is the right way to go about it for games like this.
As a long fan of both total war and warhammer, I'm seriously considering just getting the game of the year edition whenever that shows up, just so CA might get the game working and all the DLC consolidated, I got no patience for this bullshit anymore, and I got no shortage of good games to keep me until then.
>>336006357
>I WOULD TROW MY LIFE AWAY IF I COULD MURDER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU
We will celebrate you every year anon
>>336006635
What the fuck are they doing? Why did they ruin that?
>>336008962
Good thing Warhammer is British.
>>336010263
>and I got no shortage of good games
Good for you because I don't and I'm literally counting the hours until it releases so I don't have to kill myself
>>336010362
Everything is fleeting. Don't get attached to things.
>>336009290
Never. It would take a fuckload of cash and effort if there ever will be Warhammer RPG it would be either turn based top down bullshit or have only 3 playable races with 4 village sized towns to visit.
>>336005118
IT'S ALL OVER
>>336010516
>if there ever will be Warhammer RPG it would be
It would be Rogue Trader
>>336005118
That looks like CGI
>>336010560
Rogue Trader game would be just grimdark No Man's Sky.
>>336005118
Me on the left
>>336010362 tibetan monks are all about the fleeting nature of life, how everything is in constant change, and getting bogged down trying to force permanence into life.
That's why they cut open the skin of their dead and feed them to the vultures. That, and the lack of diggable soil to bury people. Check out "sky burial" on youtube.
>>336009652
>You're the one trying to make an argument that the DLC being free for the first week is the same as preorder DLC
No, I'm not you unhinged mongoloid, learn to read.
The argument is that the change is policy changes barely anything.
This change is still just a ploy to use a carved piece of content move copies the first week.
It's not as bad as pre-order only, but it's still BAD.
It's still DLC caved from the game.
It still just "free" the first week.
It's stillDLC caved from the fucking game.
>>336009797
>Implying that they didn't plan for main antagonist of the Warhammer universe playable in the game.
Nobody in their right mind would make chaos the non-playable race, especially not over the fucking vampire counts.
Also, before this was announced, it's heavily implied in the trailers and teasers that chaos would play a big role.
>Implying they're not dedicating development time, which should be spend on the main game, to develop "DLC".
This is literally what "carving out content" means.
Also, lying =/= conspiratorial.
It's easier to say that you never planned to do something in the first place than going back on something.
>>336010114
It's only a matter of time.
Still won't pay a penny for this horseshit.
If I can't pirate, I will just exploit steam family sharing.
>>336010560
It's funny how all the specialist games got translated into 40k.
In process, they work within fantasy universe rules, so the crew always had to come up with bullshit as to why they could act as they did in the game.
Man'O'War -> Battlefleet: Gothic (sails, 2D, age of sail combat,...)
Fantasy RPG -> Inquisitor (feel free to chat up good xenos, not heresy, no. Heil Sigma... I mean, Emperor)
Warmaster -> Epic
Mordheim -> Gorkamorka
...
>>336011063
>So it's essentially still just pre-order DLC.
Literally quoted from your post
>>336011201
"essentially" does not mean "literally", you retard.
Go look it up then come back and apologize for being an uneducated swine.
>>336011317
And it's essentially not the same, your argument is still weak, nothing has changed.
>>336004117
This is not the best Fantasy faction.
Stormcasts are not Fantasy.
AoS is not Warhammer Fantasy.
Go away and rethink your life.
>>336004162
Their Chaos Spawns are frightening.
>>336010675
You're retarded.
>>336005097
yep
>>336011370
Wow you SEGA shills are really uneducated or you're just a child.
Let me help your dumb ass out:
>essentially
>Jˈsɛnʃ(ə)li/Submit
>adverb: essentially
>used to emphasize the basic, fundamental, or intrinsic nature of a person or thing.
>noun
>a basic, indispensable, or necessary element; chief point
>Examples as an adverb.
>It's essentially a dictionary but it differs in one or two respects.
>What he's saying is essentially true.>It's essentially pre-order DLC, but it differs in one or two respects.
Synonyms are "fundamentally" and "basically"
It's fundamentally still the same practice, the entire main point is to use content carved from the game prior to release to sell more copies the first week, instead of day.
I have never said it was exactly the same. Yet that is what your dumb uneducated 16-year-old ass seems to think
You would have a point if they just threw the entire DLC idea out the window and just included it in the main game, regardless when it's bought. But they haven't.
>your argument is still weak
Like an autist, you have yet to provide a counter argument other than complete ignorance to the meaning of a word.
Stop being so obtuse. And just admit you are wrong or just shut the fuck up.
Or maybe this one is on me, I shouldn't be using grown up words when posting here.
>>336012209
>Like an autist, you have yet to provide a counter argument
You have to provide an argument as to how pre-order DLC and post launch free DLC are essentially the same.
You moved goal posts by making up a conspiracy theory you cannot prove, making your own headcanon on the facts, you tried to argue that CA cut the faction out of the game to sell, CA said they sell it because they can justify the cost of having it PLAYABLE on launch, which makes you automatically incorrect, that is, the costs of having the legendary lords, voices quests, abilities and a full fleshed out roster, as opposed to like, just Archaon and a basic roster.
That is also disregarding that Pre-order DLC is essentially not the same, the whole reason why preordering is bad is because it doesn't allow you to try the game, that is disregarding two recent things, you can refund, and CA added the DLC for the first week for free.
So yeah, your argument is really, really weak, because 1. they are essentially not the same, the dictionary definition does nothing but reinforce this point added to the above 2. it is based on your own definition of things and your own conspiracy theories
>>336012527
>You have to provide an argument as to how pre-order DLC and post launch free DLC are essentially the same.
I have, read literally the post you're responding to.
It's not my fault you have no reading comprehension at all.
The rest is literally TL;DR
I don't give a fuck about your opinion, faggot.
Next time, don't be such an obtuse autist about not knowing the meaning of a word and I might actually bother to read your reply.
You're a faggot shill, defending a company that doesn't care about you.
Enjoy being the cancer that is killing the industry.
I'm out.
>Total War: Warhammer
But its Sigmarines now and the Egyptian Necrons are gone forever
>>336012826
>I don't give a fuck about your opinion, faggot.
You stole my words, I don't give a fuck about your conspiracy theories, you tried to make believe that preorder DLC and free DLC post launch are the same thing and when called out you made up a whole lot of bullshit to try to back it up, I spoke of nothing but facts.
Once again, good argument, keep it up you're achieving trying to justify being a filthy pirate, I understood everything I need to know when you said
> I will just exploit steam family sharing.
Meaning you already do this shit for other games and are doing nothing but trying to justify stealing to protect your ego, don't worry anon, you're on anonymous image board.
>>336008432
Starcraft:
>split second decision making
>decisions impact the next 10-20 minutes
>micro-intensive
>focused on building units and buildings in a predefined rotation to maximise effectiveness
TW:
>long term, almost 4x decisions which can last for the length of a campaign (10-50 hours)
>not as micro intense, units don't die in a few seconds
>more focused on out maneuvering and deceiving opponent
>winning a single battle means shit, it's all about winning wars
>>336013036
I'm sure tomb kings will show up eventually.
>>336013036
Every faction in pre sigmar fantasy has been confirmed
>>336013126
by not micro intensive you mean impossible, it's pretty much impossible to pull off anything more complex than a flank in total war games
>>336013681
that's not entirely true anon. light and missile cav gameplay are based entirely on deft micro. you can utilise units far more effectively than just relying on hammer and anvil. the ninja stealth/no dachi timed charges + bonsai are examples of this.
>>336009202
Warhammer themed hats for dota 2. Not even joking check the latest dota 2 blog.
>>336013939
>examples
I always though forcing squares in nappy was a good example of micro-intense elements in tw
>>336010414
I'm with you anon, literally nothing at all to play
>>336013556
>Every faction in pre sigmar fantasy has been confirmed
For TW: Warhammer? You got a source for that, because I find it unlikely.
>>336014980
It's on one of their QA's. its confirmed to be 3 games, each game fits into the overmap like a puzzle. I'll try to find it, but I gotta run out soon.
>>336014980
It's over the trilogy.
That's three games, god knows how many DLC and several years... They pretty much need to use all armies that have codexes to have enough content.
>>336014980
Not that guy, they said any major faction that has gotten a rule book will be in the game by the end of it all, so it should be around 16
My excuse? Too broke.
>>336003359
No lizardmenmaybe I'll buy itto crush archaon with the orcs
>>336015130
>so it should be around 16
That's insane considering we only have 5 and one multiplayer faction. That means they need to put 5 new ones in each expansion.
>>336015130
>by the end of it all
so i'll have to wait 10 years from now to have a complete experience?
nice fucking modern videogame development, senpaitachi
>>336016325
Well depends how much the expansion costs
>>336016443
How did you get that from "by the end of it all"?
>>336016443
>>336016325
>>336016450
I think its one every year now, and its 5 or six per game, which isn't too unrealistic.
Are those Russian guys using bears in it?
>>336016664
Probs a neutral faction. I guess they could be DLC easily enough.
>>336016509
it was just venting about how more and more often we get a complete game only years after the release
>>336006261
>PIRATE FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>336016827
It's going to end up pretty huge at the end if they're really putting all of the main factions and extra landmasses in. A lot of the factions are very different from each other, too.
>You have amazing shit that's not used in games every time like tomb kings, lizardsman and motherfucking skaven
>lol, orcs, human and dwarfs
Every fucking time.
>>336016998
I'll wait till they relase addon with Ogre Kingdoms so I finally can make my vidya dream come true and bulldozer through manlets with an army of retards.
>>336017098
>lizardmen
Different continent lad
>>336017098
Start with the basics. It's safer. They are the foundations and you can build around them.
Would be weird if they started straight away in an area people weren't familiar with.
>>336017263who cares
if it would be fun, put it in
>>336017098
They're all going to be in eventually, so I don't see what the big deal is. I would like more games that take advantage of the underrepresented factions. Firewarrior 2 when?
>>336005153
>top tier cavalry with a proper charge shitting all over a shitty disorganized infantry unit
how is this bad?
Gon' be gooood
>buying Total War games after Rome 2
>>336007828
>Giving GW money ever.
GW are the most cancerous fucking company in gaming and Warhammer 40k fucking sucks shit as a tabletop game anyway compared to say, infinity. WHFB is a bit better, but even then, there are better games like Kings of War.
>>336017193
>>336003359
you'll get some dota 2 hats for pre-ordering
>>336017431
>not buying Total War games after Attila
>>336017431
Yeah, after seeing how they fixed Rome 2, continued supporting it with a handful of campaigns and then improved on it again with Attila, I do have more motivation to buy a TW game.
Waiting On lizard men.
>>336017431
>spreading misinformation
The middle one was in the game at launch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUi9pPKVHNc
>>336017431
>buying Total War games after Empire before it has been out for at least a year and not having read/seen extensive reviews and forum posts about its state of play and bugs
Ps4 port when?
>>336017431
it also amaze me to see how short is their memory
>>336017714
It also amazes me that people who haven't played the game talk out of their asses, second pic is the game.
>>336017759
if i upload a pic of my library will you send me money ?
>>336017863
It would just tell me you're a plain imbecile instead, there's literally a video above showing how the city actually looks.
I hope you've actually just not played the game.
>>336018038
>b-but
it's shit and everybody hates it, you mongolo
>>336018161
>m-m-mongolo
It's mongoloid, mongoloid.
>>336017698
why would you want that?
>>336009001
Arkham city worked in consoles and every review mentioned the shit performance in PC
>>336016443
not necessarily, I think they already are working on the next part as we've seen profiles of elven units, it's not unlikely to think it will all be done in 3 or 4 years if not less
