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What's the deal with red-eye enemies?
>>335994491
They're hollows
>>335994379
Most comfy area in the game, until I rang the bell. Please tell me it goes back to being sunny after I beat the boss.
>>335994568
The implication seems to be the opposite
>>335994574
it does
>>335994491
Demons Souls reference.
Probably just the Abyss taking over
>>335994658
Thank fuck.
>>335994491
they're very angry
Are the hunters of Lothric just a thinly-veiled Bloodborne reference?
What exactly did they do?
>>335994491
>What's the deal with red-eye enemies?
It's the abyss taking over and infesting them.
The Abyss can overwhelm hollows and physically borrow into the back of their darksigns and live in there like a spiderman symbiote feeding and getting fat off of their humanity as it expands and grows immense in the darkness.
>the Ghru
what's their fucking problem?
>>335994794
Not just hollows. Drakes too. Makes me wish the game focused more on the Abyss creatures.
>>335994859
they're demon spawn
demons are assholes
>>335994993
they kill the demons in Demon Ruins though
>>335994867
>Not just hollows. Drakes too. Makes me wish the game focused more on the Abyss creatures.
Ah, yes, that's true- good memory.
>>335994859
>what's their fucking problem?
The Ghru are the remains of some of the of the Abyss Watchers getting corrupted by the Demons of Isilith and turning into demented goat demons upon their exposure to the corruption of Chaos.
The Abyss Watchers would go to any length to see the Abyss rooted out and destroyed: wolf blood, demon powers, etc..
>>335994859
>>335995032
Aren't they like the decendents of the Undead Legion? They just have been in the swamps for so long and probably embibed in the wolves blood that they mutated.
>>335995032
>Ghru's are descendants of the Faron guardians. Some event has turned them into goatlike demons
chaos fucked them up
Praise the sun? but praise the moon!
Does the wolf have any relation to Sif? Because the Abyss Watchers seem to idolize Artorias. Or did they just find a big cool wolf and start worshiping it?
>There is no body where you find Ornstein's armor
So he left Anor Londo and found the First Born and then abandoned his armor?
Every other set of armor has a dead body where the pickup is.
>>335995303
Sif had plenty of time to have kids, so maybe. But it's just as likely they found another wolf and raised it to an almost godlike status out of respect for Sif and Artorias.
>Artorias fails in every single aspect
>Have to go back in team and clean his act up
>He gets all the credit and becomes a legend
>thousands of years later
>Some dudes discover Artorias' shit
>Try to copy him
>Fuck everything up again
>Create Blighttown 3.0
>Lock themselves up on their pathetic little chapel
>Succumb
I don't understand why people like Artorias. Gough and Ornstein were knights of gwyn too but they actually did cool shit
>>335995303
I think they just deified wolves as a species.
>>335995303
they were obviously inspired by artorias and his wolf companion
I think old wolf farron is like their mascot at this point. He' so old that he doesn't even move anymore. Maybe he never did once they put him there
>>335995410
>I don't understand why people like Artorias.
>He gets all the credit and becomes a legend
>>335995303
the Abyss Watchers seem to think so seeing as the wolf is laying in front of a grave surrounded by swords
>>335994379
Just go to VaatiVidya on youtube for accurate Dark Souls Lore
>>335994859
>>335994993
I want think the demons in desperation to survive fuck each other and ghru born
>>335995329
>go to find my lost master
>journey around for years
>finally find him
>he's just a mile away on a small mountain
>he's made friends with dragons
>fucking dragons
>drop my armor and spear he gave me out of shame and leave
>>335995503
I mean real life players
>>335994379
You're astral projecting yourself to the place. That's why the Knights dont react when attacked. They died on the peak and their minds died as a result or they are still there.
Okay, so, here's what I've gathered or at the very least have TRIED to gather from the profaned capital:
>The Profaned capital was some big, affluent, cruel and unusual city with plenty of nobles and so forth at some point. It was also a part of Ithiryl valley a province or maybe even the CAPITAL of Ithiryl valley at some point?
>The Profaned Flame was some sort of mysterious third flame: distinct from the bonfires, distinct from the flames of chaos. The Profamed flame was contained and sealed by the cold, cold, Ithiryl tundra.
>Yhorm the Giant eventually pillages and raids the absolute shit out of the profaned capital, but to his surprise the people beg and plead for him to lead him as they figure ANY leader is better than the cruel and corrupt nobility currently leading them.
>Yhorm goes on his own adventures: leading an army, gathering souls, treasure and becoming grand in his own right. He's entitled a lord of cinder, but remains unrespected due to people being racist against giants.
>Yhorm does his duty and lights the fire: The fire spreads and for some reason unleashes the profaned flame???
>The Profaned flame burns down the fucking capital and all it's people.
Feel free to correct it- The profaned capital is VERY unclear.
>>335995329
Ornstein has become ridiculously convoluted. So he's not the Ornstein in 1, he's not the Old Dragonslayer in 2, he's not the Dragonslayers Armour and he's not in the Archdragon Peak.
>>335994491
According to something I read on the wiki, they all have the ability to drop embers.
>>335995607
his fight and lore were nice additions to the game
>>335995534
>accurate
Do you remember his Tower of Heide video?
>>335995303
Nah, they are just wolfaboos
>>335995518
Wait. Is the wolf real? I thought it was just a statue. Doesn't even breath
>>335995640
>The Profamed flame was contained and sealed by the cold, cold, Ithiryl tundra.
That keeps leading me to believe it's connected to the Chaos Flame.
The whole thing is so underdeveloped. It does't help that the whole area is about 5 minutes long.
>>335995303
I always took the blood of the wolf as, in, the blood of the wolf. As in, Sif. They drank Sif blood, or a kid of Sif, and that gave them powers.
>>335994491
It's not lore based, it's just a mechanic to differentiate between ordinary enemies, they are tougher, and also that one abyss knight that attacks the others.
>>335995695
Yeah I mean I really like his DLC and the addition of a tragical hero. His story is really good of how he failed. But I can't understand why people praise him like he' a cool or strong something like that when he actually failed everything he set out to do and his fight, depsise being interesting was really straight forward
>>335995882
People love Boba Fett and Darth Maul and they didn't do shit other than look cool.
>>335995778
Hit it with a weapon and it bleeds.
>>335995778
he could just be dead
>>335995640
Profaned Capital feels so rushed. I was pretty hyped for Yhorm after the reveal but the entire area was one long corridor, 5 gargoyles, a giant-bowl of fire and one gimmick boss. I was really let down
>>335995640
you miss
>Yhorm goes on his own adventures: chilling with onion friend
>>335994867
You just reminder me of that dickass cancer growth from the dragon before Dragonslayer armor. I fuckin cheesed it at range because it kept slapping my ass up close. Afterwards I found out that it wasn't even necessary to kill him.
>>335994379
Reminder that these characters did absolutely nothing wrong
>Lothric and Lorian
>Aldritch
>Sulyvahn
>Eygon
>Leonhard
>Patches
>>335995937
That's a pretty good point you made there
>>335995821
I think it's like a blood pact. The lore says that the abyss watchers participate in a sort of ritual with the blood of the wolf
Sif was Artorias' battle companion and they were sworn to protect each other
So when the undead legion was formed, they all made a pact/oath to fight the abyss using the wolf's blood (maybe not literally)?
>>335996038
>Patches did nothing wrong
>>335995580
It wasn't a mile away. It says in the opening of the game that Lothric is a transitory land, all the important places are moving locations to be close together. That's why Anor Londo isn't on top of a mountain anymore.
>>335996038
>Aldritch
Eating people is bad.
>Sulyvahn
Giving a cannibal more pople to eat is bad.
>>335996128
>He can't handle the bantz
>>335995410
>Gough
>A giant who was bullied, made blind through a prank, and still remained bro
>Artorias
>sent to save a kingdom from the abyss, but was corrupted by it instead - was killed so that his honor would remain true
>Ciaran
>Was never able to be with the man she loved
>Ornstien
>His master was stripped of everything, and exiled. His Lord sacrificed himself to preserve the age. His fellow Knights fell one by one. Leaves to beg the firstborn to come back and rule, but fails in the quest.
>>335996038
>>335996132
Anor Londo was never on top of a mountain. It was always in a valley. Go load up DS1 if you don't believe me. Anor Londo, Eleum Loyce, and Irithyll are all the exact same place.
>>335995979
>>335995979
and the "Hands ogre/hippo" things, the Logan's Apprentice
>>335996118
Well, given that there is a wolf that is actually revered by the Abyss Watchers, and all instance of 'blood of the wolf' seems to be literal, I'm pretty sure they actually did something with the blood of the wolf.
Maybe not drink it, but something.
Ludleth mentions you needing 5 to complete the redoing of the first linking.
You are the 5th, just as Chosen Undead was, not Ludleth. Ludleth is a fraud
>>335995652
The legend of Zelda timeline makes more sense than ornsteins.
So what's up with Priscilla? Is she still hanging out with the bloated hollows, crowgirls and wheel skeletons? Why was Gwyndolin thinking of her? It's clear Aldrich hadn't eaten her yet as he only had the Lifehunt miracle and not the actual scythe. So is she still in the Painted World? Run off with her mother and Ocelotte, her dragon brother?
>>335996276
ASH DOESN'T BURN
>>335995695
Plus he has the best looking armor and weapon in the game.
>>335995979
Don't forget about the mimics!
>>335995882
>tragic hero.
>His story is really good of how he failed
Its too bad From cut the Oscar storyline.
>>335996289
It's left to player's choice. Her existence is made evident yet they leave up to the player to decide if she's still chilling there since they didn't want to make either kill or spare choices canon
Why do you have to chase down people who have previously linked the fire? You usually had to get the 4 lords souls, extremely powerful souls, but in 3 you bring back cinders.
You needed the lord souls to have the power to link the flame, but why do you need some ash now?
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YaFVxqg.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>335996289
>crowgirls
Friendly reminder that the transforming crowmen are the ancestors of Humans who originally found themselves in the painted world and managed to befriend and FUCK the crowgirls.
>>335994765
They were assassins for the king but I think it's a bloodbourne reference because it's too similar
>>335996302
Yet we Link the fire anyway.
Checkmate.
>>335996410
Of all the cut content in Dark Souls 1, Priscilla and this hurt the most. Running into this bro all throughout the game, helping each other out only to end up as opponents.
>>335996289
Well the room housing the painting is gone by the time of Dark Souls 3, so it's up in the air whether the painting was moved or was destroyed at some point. Because of that we can't determine if Priscilla is still around.
I'm hoping it will reappear in the DLC, preferably with the Painting Guardian covenant that should have been in DaS1.
>>335996038
>Eygon
trying to steal the person who sells miracles away from me is a no go son.
>>335996505
Please have source on this theory
>>335996532
With the souls of the Five Lords. Alone we couldn't do it.
>>335996486
Unkindled are unfit to be cinders, so they have to rely on true lords cinders. Imagine them as hollows that lost so much of their essence there isn't even anything to hollow
>>335995410
Artorias, and everything associated with his name end up being complete failures. Ciaran probably had a better track record than him.
>>335995839
>and also that one abyss knight that attacks the others
so it's lore based
>>335996486
as the fire fades, mostly ashes remain
>>335996276
>Ludleth is a fraud
Someone explain this to me. I feel like I missed something in the game.
>>335995778
>>335995938
>>335995952
hes just emaciated as fuck
>>335994379
What a tedious area.
Felt like Dark Souls 2 level of enemy placement.
Was this supposed to be a co-op area?
Doing this whole place solo with clay on my first playthrough was complete suffering, and I don't have any motivation to go through it alone again, especially the "encounter" where you have to cheese agro like 5 big dudes and 7 little dudes in order to not be gangbanged by retarded amounts of people.
>>335995329
I think he just gave up and became a hermit
>>335995032
>>335994993
>>335994859
>>335995235
You guys are retarded.
Look at the Ghru, then look at the bugheaded dudes in Oolacile from the Artorias DLC.
Same fucking things. Same fucking location.
Abyss related, not Chaos related.
>>335995303
Just check the description of the Wolf Knight's Greatsword
>Greatsword of a knight tainted by the dark of the Abyss, and master of the wolf's blood of Farron.
The Abyss Watchers started a pact with Sif and have been defending the forest from intruders and from the Abyss ever since.
>>335995719
I don't watch this guy, what'd he do?
>>335996486
you are literally to weak to keep the flame going
>>335995329
*SIGH*
People don't get it and I have to always post this...
Nameless King IS Ornstien.
He threw away his name after realizing what actually was happening in the world due to his travels and embraced the dragons.
The actual body of the First Born was in Dark Souls 1 where you find his ring in Anor Londo.
I swear Souls Fans are some of the dumbest mothefuckers on this site...
>>335996276
"nameless cursed undead unfeet to be cinders"
unkindled are just janitors if the Lord of Cinders run away
>>335996719
First half of the area is pretty fair and good but starting on the place where you have to fight 5 guys in succesion then 1 big and one small it gets retarded. That place where you have to literally fight around 10 enemies 4 of them giants is just plain retardation
>>335996719
That place was such bullshit. Fucking snakeman wizards summoning guys in full Havel armor. A dozen snakemen and a giant snakeman around every corner.
>>335996784
Just started making shit up with zero in game text to back it up. And he's the "leading authority" on Dark Souls lore.
>>335996535
Considering Priscilla was basically going to be the DS1 version of MaidenInBlack\EmeraldHerald\FireKeeper, it seems weird that they didn't go with that, considering DaS now stands out as the only game without an interactive leveling npc.
As for Oscar, I think the reason they cut that storyline is the fight would have been mediocre after killing Gwyn - they wanted the Gwyn boss fight to stand alone as THE last boss fight of the game - and while having to kill your constant companion would have had emotional impact, in the end it would have just been a standard NPC fight
>>335995410
Artorias was at a crippling disadvantage. The abyss is naturally inhospitable for him, but fine for us. Besides, he had a cool wolf companion and a haughty catbitch on his side, a sexy midget girlfriend, and one of the best boss fights in the game. He's great.
Undead Legion didn't create the swamp, and they successfully repelled the abyss, and they linked the fire. It's only now that they've become useless.
>>335996798
Did you even read the Nameless Kings soul? Or any of his weapon descrptions?
>>335996608
>>335996785
You missed my point. Why instead of lord souls, do you need to hunt down these random plebs for their cinders?
>>335996783
Yeah, I know about that. But there's an actual wolf in that area, who you use to join their covenant, and it's not Sif. I'm wondering what its relation is to Sif.
I just beat Dark Souls 4
ask me anything
>>335995410
He's a tragic figure compared to the other knights. He ventured out to save a kingdom and failed horribly, becoming consumed by the evil he sought to destroy and had to be laid to rest before he became even more horribly corrupted.I like to think that the reason his left arm is dead limp all the time is because he fucked it up using the greatshield to protect Sif
>>335996783
Dont we canonically kill Sif?
>>335996672
the abyss watchers attack each other because of their madness. The red eyes were just to show the player which watcher was the one who could also attack the main one
>>335994379
>is a dream
wrong, you can SEE the area from irithyll dungeon, it exists.
>>335996798
I love it when people act condescending and smug while being wrong about literally everything they say. It's delicious.
>>335997000
they linked the flame in the past
the Lords from DaS1 never linked the flame
>>335996289
>>335996480
>>335996505
>>335996551
what if Yorshka is Priscilla and she is just fluffy in the dream/paint world?
>>335996589
>falling for the dark miracles meme
Eygon was right in taking her away. You were literally making her go crazy with darkness and she was begging him to kill her.
>>335996505
>>335996606
This is wrong tho.
If you read the items that allude to the transforming crow guys in DS3 it talks about how they were either storytellers or listeners of those storytellers who taught about the painted world.
So basically they learned of forbidden knowledge and transformed.
>>335996936
>it seems weird that they didn't go with that
The game was rushed out to beat Skyrim's release date. There is an amazing amount of cut content from that game, Priscilla being one of the biggest. She was going to be the heroine of the game, but her role was taken over by the Firekeepers and the bonfires.
>>335997000
Because you need their souls to become more powerful AND their cinders to actually have something to burn since you can't burn yourself, Before all you needed was to become a lord of cinder by consuming powerfull souls. Now you need the cinders too, since you are unfit to be a lord no matter how strong you become
>>335996784
he goes on reddit and other sites probably 4chan also and steals other peoples lore discussions/theories and basically reads them out in his videos, a lot of morons seems to follow and worship him for some reason...
>>335996862
>>335996875
I'm seriously starting to think this was supposed to be the "Co-op challenge area" of the game.
The big guys have unlimited poise and do not respond to even a fully charged r2 from Greatsword lol
And you're supposed to fight them + little guys at the same time multiple times, I don't get it.
I will never not just run by them on multiple playthroughs, same with the clusterfuck of Jailers, and some encounters with the Lothric knights.
Really shouldn't design encounters where the easiest and least frustrating/most rewarding outcome is just running by enemies IMO.
Feels like the Tomb of the Giants skeledogs
>>335997084
Why would she claim to be Gwyn's daughter, and not Gwynevere's?
>>335997005
Could have been just a vessel to hold Sif's blood, kind of like an icon
>>335997018
yeah, doesn't mean they couldn't get his blood or contact what's left of him somehow though
>>335996410
You get the ashen Estus from his similar corpse in DS3 so lets just assume its him again because whats one more unexplained piece of fan service
>>335997176
She is repeating the exact Darkmoon mantra that Gwyndolin recites in the first game.
>>335996183
>>His master was stripped of everything, and exiled. His Lord sacrificed himself to preserve the age. His fellow Knights fell one by one. Leaves to beg the firstborn to come back and rule, but fails in the quest.
Ornstien's had a hard life
>>335997164
I swear he got caught stealing from /vg/ years ago. Maybe I'm misremembering though.
>>335996798
Are you retarded? Did you play Dark Souls 1? Do you read weapon and armor descriptions? The only thing said about Ornstein is that he went off to find Gwyn's Firstborn and NOTHING MORE. There is a higher chance that he was killed by the Nameless King seeing as you find his weapon and armor lying about in Archdragon Peak.
Gwyn's Firstborn is said to have defected and fought with the dragons instead, and that his name has been forgotten. Is it a coincidence that the Nameless King, who has no name, fights alongside dragons? They are literally throwing it in your face at that point.
>>335997015
he gave his shield to sif so he could protect himself. When you find young sif he has the shield. Artorias got his fucked up as from not having the shield to protect it
The 'Wolf Blood' is Artorias' blood, not Sif's.
>>335997251
He did.
>>335997178
Maybe they fed Sif's blood to a normal wolf and it grew huge.
>>335997042
the area being a real area does not preclude your visit from being a dream
this was true in BB too
>>335997290
details?
>>335994993
But they're turning into Wyverns.
>>335997251
>Vaati will never steal your retarded theory that DaS2 is the last in the timeline and try to pass it off as his own
>>335997332
Most of his early videos are just summaries of stuff that got posted on /vg/ all the time.
Hell in one of his joke videos he literally quotes a /dsg/ comic.
>>335997178
>doesnt mean they couldnt get his blood
I was more questioning someone say they made a pact with sif
>>335997176
she thinks humans can fly
>>335997419
I mean, you walk on air mang, she don't know.
>>335997110
>The game was rushed out to beat Skyrim's release date.
Thats a shame
>>335997364
What makes you think it's the last in the timeline? There's plenty of items in game that reference a "king of Want". Not to mention in DaS2 only requires one person to link the fire, while 3 requires 5.
>Kill a fucking load of Dragons
>Serve your country and your king
>Serve him despite him letting a fucking mad dragon into his court
>Serve him even after he allows for literal hell to be created
>Serve him after he literally fucking burns himself
>Serve his descendants even after they go away, illusion or not
>Feel lonely with that huge ass cannibal freak
>Go searching for last king candidate
>Finally find him
>Ask him to come back
>He fucking went and joined the dragon
>Woops your ass and leaves your armour fucking lying on the ground forever
Ornstein had a shitty life
>>335997000
In DaS gwyn was the only one who had linked the flame. You kill him, take the soul and link the flame again. Sometime later, the soul was split and the burden shared among several people (the lords)
>>335997506
You forgot
>Serve him even as his mad dragon fucks and knocks up the princess and still isn't allowed to slay the traitorous fuck
>>335997470
she don't know nothing about the world, you think she know who are his parents?
>>335997506
Ornstein is canonically an asshole.
Both Artorias and Gough had it far worse.
>>335997030
>the abyss watchers attack each other because of their madness.
No, the red eyed ones attack the others because its tainted by the abyss
Are you being serious right now anon?
>>335994859
>what's their fucking problem?
Its just dark in the swamp anon,
Everyone knows that when its dark, you're very likely to be eaten by a Ghru
>>335997506
What surprises me is that Smough, of all fucking people, decided to stay in Anor Londo while Ornstein fucked off to do his own thing.
Wasn't he supposed to be all about muh honor and shit? Seems like an asshole thing to do to leave one of Gwyn's children(who you swore to protect) alone with a fat cannibal motherfucker
>>335997627
Artorias was a literal bitch that failed to do anything right. Gough is a bro though but he got to sit on his tower carving meme stones as he liked so I think that's better than living with a sadistic cannibal or roaming the world for a king that fucks you up
>>335997415
Now he's so lazy all he does is read out news articles or make a top 15 "things other people discovered and I stole". He promises alot of videos he never delivers on. And to think I used to like him.
>>335997506
Interesting part of that
Smough always wanted to be a Knight
And after Ornstien left, Gwyndolin likely gave Smough a Knighthood
And what did Smough do?
He stayed his post. He upheld the honor of his position.
For being a sick cannibal fuck, thats rather amazing.
>>335996897
>decide to go watch it
>it's just a guy with an english accent pretending he's reading a fucking picture book to children
How is this even a lore video?
https://youtu.be/NQTjvhZ18u8?t=237
>>335997506
Ornstien didn't die...
...unless you kill the Nameless King like this anon >>335996798 said.
Pretty shitty way to end the series if you think about it. At least you put him out of his misery.
>>335994379
Farram armor is so ruined in this game. I mean fuck it's ugly as hell.
Also
>tfw your ati hd 5770 can run the game at medium - high 720 @ 30~fps
>reach Archdragon Peak and its all 15fps with drops even at lowest settings
I guess one day I will be able to enjoy that area.
>>335997821
>implying Ornstein is a king
>not reading Nameless King's item descriptions that call him the heir of lightning
>>335996936
Not to mention they already had the "kill your constant companion" part with Solaire if you didn't save him
>>335997237
Orstein deserved better honestly. He's like the only competent member of Gwyn's knights and everything just fell apart for him.
>Be Orsntein
>Rise through the ranks of the dragonslayer knights
>Get chosen by Lord Gwyn's own son, the God of War personally
>He gives me a badass armor with a hole in the helmet for my long hair and weapon similar to his own
>Get to shoot lightning and shit
>Kill so many dragons I literally get named Dragonslayer
>Get assigned a company of knights and personally guard the princess
>life is great
>Suddenly a weird dragon looking thing that calls itself Frampt starts talking to my Lord
>Rumors start spreading about my master meeting with dragons
>Get assigned a fat retard cannibal as my partner
>My best knight goes to Oolacile for no reason and fucks everything up
>I send my other knights after him, which ultimately results in Artorias dying, and the other two resigning
>Gwyn sets himself on fire for some reason and now there is no leader in Anor Londo
>My master turn out to be a race traitor and gets banished
>The princess and most of the other gods fuck off and leave the kingdom defenseless
>A tranny twink is my new Lord and he makes me guard an illusion while everyone is dying
>After hundreds of years of dealing with Smough's fat ass begging him to make me a knight I crack
>Tell Gwyndolin to fuck himself and go look for my old master, because he's the only hope we have left
>Finally find him after years of searching
>Walk into him fucking a drake and he kills me instantly
>>335997030
I can't argue that can be just game mechanic but red eyes are simbol of Abyss (all oolacile abyss spawns had red eyes) specially Manus
>>335997808
He and Gwyndolin are very underrated characters, while everyone else left Anor Londo these two held down the fort to protect Gwyn's legacy even though they knew what was coming, that's pretty based.
>>335997480
>in 2, the names of the gods are forgotten ancient history, but in 3 they're still remembered
>in 3, Vinheim, Carim, Astora etc. are still around, and share similarities with their respective identities in the original game (Carim has onion knights and miracles, Vinheim is the land of sorcery, and so forth), by 2 these lands have vanished
>the giants seen in 1 and 3 share similar designs, while the giants of 2 look completely different
>in general, most of DaS2's lore is absent, while 3 references the first game's lore more heavily
It's a bit of a stretch but Vaati has pitched dumber things
>>335997821
>like this anon
Samefag no samefagging
There's no reason to believe Ornstein is the Nameless King
The rationale in that post is literally headcanon conjecture with no evidence
>>335997950
I rather liked that aspect of DS2 to be honest, with NPC's helping you during boss fights and that being an overarching part of their quests. Notably in this case, Lucatiel, Creighton, and Pate.
>>335998001
>>335997645
shit, I think you guys are right
>>335997867
I'm running an R9 390 and I can't get the game at a stable framerate in the Peak. Even when I turn everything down to Low
>>335997985
>a hole in the helmet for my long hair
Top jej, though did NK kill him? The idea that he just got fed up with everything and left his stuff has appeal.
>>335997738
Gough seemed rather content and at peace up there with his carvings.
>>335995329
Ornstein became a dragon. You have to take your armor off to transform, that's why there's no corpse. He might even be the dragon NK rides.
>>335998034
>>in general, most of DaS2's lore is absent, while 3 references the first game's lore more heavily
Thats because Miyazaki is too butthurt about someone else making a Souls game.
My best guess is Drangleic took place so far away from Lordran/Lothric that nobody there remembers these places.
Neither one really works.
Reminder that Ludleth is a based motherfucker who even as just a little guy, is willing to burn himself alive a second time for you, even if memories of the first time makes him wimper and beg from the pain
And that he burnt himself alive for his Firekeeper waifu, so that she could see a vision other than that of endless blackness borne of betrayal
>>335998294
Is this making it into your next video Vaati?
>>335998294
The Storm-Drake NK tames is just that.
>>335997949
uhh...Ornstein is the most well-known character in the Souls series that uses lightning-based attacks.
He was like a king to the original dragonslayers and even had special armor to show his greatness. He was even the leader of Gwyn's Four Knights.
After siding with the remaining drakes and dragons, they gave him the title of King cause of how much respect they had for him, since he could topple the greatest of creatures. He put his past behind him and left his name in Anor Londo so he became Nameless.
Dragonslayer Swordspear should really give it away dude...
>>335997784
>>335997816
how to be as VaatiVidya:
>Search all lore forums and take the popular/coherent story
>take one DA draw or just pay poor drawfag
>talk slow and just put random ingame quotes
>add sad music
>profit
>>335994379
If it's a dream, how do you gain equipment from there? You bring back everything you pick up there to reality. How is that explained? Unless it's some Bloodborne shit where the entire game takes place in a dream, and the dream has layers.
From a Lore perspective, what are your expectations and hopes for the confirmed DLC? I think we may get some new areas but I wish we could get more abyss or Profaned Capital stuff. Seeing how Ds3 it's probably going to be heavily linked to DaS1 so idk what to expect ash lake maybe??
>>335998294
That's fucking retarded even for you, Vaati
>>335997867
>>335998157
I'm having the same god awful problem.
Also I'm getting graphical flickering and I can't seem to stop it.
I need to know, what does an age of dark entail?
In all 3 games, an age of dark is already creeping up on the world as the fire fades, but they don't seem that dark to me. The worst thing happening is the undead curse, why don't they call it an age of undead instead
>>335998426
What card?
>>335998308
I honestly believe that DaS2 took place in a different timeline. Theres stuff from das2 in das3, but at the same time, stuff from das2 doesnt seem to fit in with das3
I think das2 take place in a far away land in a timeline where chosen undead didnt link the fire
>>335998374
>He was like a king to the original dragonslayers and even had special armor to show his greatness.
ahahaha
>He was even the leader of Gwyn's Four Knights.
self-proclaimed not official
>After siding with the remaining drakes and dragons, they gave him the title of King cause of how much respect they had for him, since he could topple the greatest of creatures. He put his past behind him and left his name in Anor Londo so he became Nameless.
AHAHAHAHA
>Dragonslayer Swordspear should really give it away dude...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>335998157
close your web browser
>>335998180
I can already imagine Ornstein, after ditching his equipment, just began to wander aimlessly before finally turning hollow. A really fucking tough, hard to kill hollow that uses a giant spear.
>>335998374
>uhh...Ornstein is the most well-known character in the Souls series that uses lightning-based attacks.
well except maybe Gwyn
>>335998374
>all this baseless head canon
>using lightning like all dragonslayers did makes him the heir of lightning
>dragonslayer swordspear is his weapon
>even though you pick up his real weapon elsewhere
>>335998384
I have one better
>Have an accent
>Talk about anything on Youtube
>>335998462
Look at the Untended Graves or the End of Fire ending. Along with the undead curse, it seems to be just the end of Fire and the power of the Lordsouls. The Abyss might be part of it, or it might be a cancer that latched onto the Dark.
>>335998462
>why don't they call it an age of undead instead
Because then retards like the ones in these threads would realize that the age of dark is a fucking bad thing, and Kaathe would run out of goys to scam.
>Nameless does the same stab and shock trick as Ornstein
Cute
>>335998462
Nobody really knows since you'll have people that don't want it to happen saying it's the worst shit ever while people who want it to happen saying "it's not bad at all!"
The best representation of a world where fire has died out would be the Untended Graves.
>>335998462
To be honest I don't really think anyone fully understands what it entails and it's mostly based on accepted theories and shit.
I personally think it would be just humanity living on the world therefore age of men. Kinda like real life to put in on perspective. No gods and magic but no monsters and hexes
>>335998385
>If it's a dream, how do you gain equipment from there? You bring back everything you pick up there to reality. How is that explained?
you do that in DaS2 too
in DaS1 you travel through time and into an alternate world that is contained in a painting
>>335998462
The only reason there's undead is because the fire is eating their humanity through the darksign. If it was allowed to die out, humans would keep their dark souls and become the rulers of the world. Gwyn basically fucked over humanity and denied them their turn to prolong the era of his own people.
>>335998512
What?
>>335998374
It's like watching Vaati put a video together
>>335997685
Fuck you anon
>>335998562
>have an accent
yank cunt detected
>>335998374
It makes a thousand times more sense that nameless is the firstborn
>nameless because the first game outright tells you that his name is scrubbed from history
>uses lightning because he's Gwyn's son you idiot
>>335996183
Don't forget that the canonical end to ornstein's life (assuming the ornstein you fought in das1 is the real one) is getting smashed up and consumed by smough.
This Ornstein cunt is even more irritating than the Age of Man memers and the Aldrich Fagful.
>>335998534
Gwyn doesn't use lightning at all in the final battle.
He uses a flame sword. Only time you ever see him use lightning is at the start of the game in the opening scene, but that is barely special since all his other dragonslaying knights are throwing them as well.
Ornstein fits the theme a lot more actually.
>>335998729
>he doesn't knowDUDE ILLUSIONS LMAO
>>335998634
To be its an Age where the Dark Soul can finally take over and run wild. Like in the Abyss
>>335998664
You're a fucking moron. Seriously. The game has spelled this out so many goddamn times.
Hollows are the natural state of these beings. When the fire begins to falter, they begin to revert back to their original deathless state, becoming undead, a halfway point between Hollow and Human. Once the fire fades completely they will go completely back to being Hollows.
>>335998664
But NPCs tell you that the undead curse can be dispelled by linking the fire, is that a lie?
>>335998613
Becoming Lord of Hollows seems pretty bad for everyone who isn't you, and Kaathe's dogs, but if you just let the fire fade away peacefully then Firekeeper does see some fresh new embers in the horizon, everyone will just have to deal with things being really dark and shit for a while before they come into being though
>>335996038
Sully and Aldritch are the main villains of the game. They literally did all the bad shit.
>>335998772
Ugh, what a shitty retcon.
>>335997685
>>335998474
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
>>335998462
>Schrödinger's cat: the game
>>335994379
Oh, is the cunt who's pushing Gwynevere and the Divine Blessing descriptions still here? What a sad dude.
>>335998754
Ornstein doesn't use lightning attacks, he uses a lightning spear
Nameless King literally throws lightning bolts just like Gwyn
So while we have a blithering retard who can't tell who Nameless King is despite the descriptions shoving it in your face,
Could Nameless King alongside being the First Born also be the god Faraam the Forossa Lion Knights served? They're both described as a God of War, after all.
And if you really want to reach on it, Ornstein was we know was a knight of the First Born and has a helmet depicting a Lion and wears the Leo Ring which has the symbol of a Lion. Faraam Knights are called Forossa Lion Knights and serve a God of War which the First Born was. It might be a stretch but the correlation could be there.
>>335998902
He's had a few hundred years at least to get better at his lightning gimmick
>>335998902
How come Gwyn didn't throw lightning spears in ds1 like soul of cinder does? That shit is badass.
>>335998706
In the first game it just states that he lost the anals of history, not that he was lost IN the anals of history.
Gwyn's son is long dead, you pick up his ring in Anor Londo in the first game. Probably killed himself when he was stripped of his godhood after he placed his miracle on Gwyn's Tomb.
>>335998891
You mean everyone except you?
Yes, we're still here.
>>335998034
Dark Souls 2 takes place away from Dark Souls 1/3. Remember the actual world isn't just Lordran, there's other kingdoms and lands and such. Hell in Dark Souls 1 nearly all the npc's you come across came to Lordran from far away land making their own journeys.
>>335998951
>In the first game it just states that he lost the anals of history, not that he was lost IN the anals of history.
thisguy
>>335998927
Ornstein was as we know a knight*
Sorry for butchering that part.
>>335998034
>>335997364
Dark Souls 2 takes place before the events of Dark Souls 1
I'm thrilled for DLC.
Dragonshit was clearly the last zone they dev'd and boss'd.
It'll be the git gud like Artorias/Manus was for dodge girls.
>I dodge girl'd but I hard to learn to dodge and then got real good at dodge
After a playthru, no, after a nameless king I got good. Sorc modo is ez-o.
>>335998902
Nevermind that Sunlight Spear is outright stated as being the Firstborn's miracle, which he left on Gwyn's tomb when he left.
>>335998927
Late to the punch, most people have made that connection by now.
>>335996214
Oh, you're right. But locations still have moved.
>>335998754
Yea I never understood that. Was Gwyn completely hollowed? Hence why he wasn't roasting you with lightning the second you walked in the door?
Because Nameless King was hurling that shit around like confetti and has a bunch of attacks that are lightning based.
Personally I believe Ornstein isn't Nameless King. The best thing I could say would be Ornstein got fed up with NK's shit after siding with the dragons and went to beg NK to come back and take over in his father's (Gwyn) stead, or force him to. (Via combat).
would kind of explain why the spear is up against the door and the armor laying by some knocked over pillars.
No body is odd though.
>>335998927
Man, that trailer, and the armor were so fucking edgy. You can basically hear the "I'm a badass knight >:)"
>>335998792
>Hollows are the natural state of these beings.
yes, and the dark soul is what the hollows human.
>When the fire begins to falter, they begin to revert back to their original deathless state, becoming undead, a halfway point between Hollow and Human.
Because when the fire runs out of fuel, it starts feeding on humanity again.
What makes you hollow in DS1? Losing your humanity. What makes you revert to human form? Consuming a humanity.
>>335998801
It's true, because linking the fire gives it more fuel and it doesn't need humanity anymore.
>>335998995
To be fair that part is true, the rest is him being a blithering twit though
I mean hell Nameless own damn crown points out it looks a lot like Gwyn's
>>335998754
>"The Nameless King was once a dragon-slaying god of war, before he sacrificed everything to ally himself with the ancient dragons."
>God of War
>Gwyn's firstborn was a God of War
>Nameless King
>Had his name erased from history
Jesus christ. The game flatout tells you who he is
>>335998951
You make me laugh my ass off everytime you post, friend.
>FUCK I DROPPED THE ANNALS OF HISTORY
>GODDAMNIT FARAAM HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES
>DAD I'M SORRY OKAY JESUS CHRIST IF I'M SUCH A DISAPPOINTMENT TO YOU WHY DON'T I JUST LEAVE
>FINE GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY SIGHT
I wonder if we'll find out what really happened to Andre in the DLC.
>>335999038
Not really
>>335998834
There's your problem
>>335998754
>Gwyn doesn't use lightning at all in the final battle.
Only in Das1. And his soul still produces the Sunspear miracle.
>>335999096
I STILL don't get what happened to andre in the first game, with the stone statues and all
Isn't there some blacksmith god out there? That seems like a plausible explanation for an immortal blacksmith who somehow has workshops in every corner of the world
>>335998308
You mean it references DS1 more heavily because DS3 pretty much takes place in the same worldspace. You got Anor Londo, Firelink Shrine, the fucking Archives with the crystal magic assholes. Besides all that the story itself is pretty much a direct sequel to DS1, you're trying to link the fire again by opening up the way to the Kiln of the First Flame throwing yourself into the firepit.
>>335999045
>What makes you revert to human form? Consuming a humanity.
No. You have to burn a Humanity sprite at a bonfire. That's like linking a miniature First Flame.
Vendrick outright states that when the age of dark comes, men will assume their true form as hollows.
>>335999096
Check the item description for the blacksmith hammer that you find in the unlit firelink,vaati
>>335997685
>>335999034
I think ornstein found nameless, then went off to go be a dragon.
he's probably one of the many dragonkin meditating in the mausoleum
>>335999038
>edgy
The problem with buzzwords is that they lose all meaning after a while.
>>335998119
I was always kinda unclear about the Creighton/Pate storyline. Who was the evil one? Was Creighton right about Pate or was he delusional? Does Pate pull a Patches on you? Or is it just left up to interpretation? One of the few interesting things about DaS2 regardless.
>>335999182
Shit, you're right. I got it confused with the human effigies in DS2.
>>335999168
>Isn't there some blacksmith god out there?
It says he "passed" in DaS1, whether or not that means he died or left is probably up to what the japanese was.
Snuffing the flame is true good ending, right?
>>335998902
>>335998934
Ornstein actually uses the Lightning Spear miracle in the boss fight. It discharges from his Dragon Slayer spear. You have to have a certain amount of Faith to even use that weapon properly so it's most likely that he was severely talented in lightning-based skills.
Even the Silver Knights that roam Anor Londo in DS3 can't emit Lightning Spear from their spears. They most likely have to utilize that miracle from a talisman like they do in the DS1 opening cutscene.
He can also ground-pound lightning.
So basically we have the Sun King Gwyn who uses no lightning attacks as a boss, and then we have Ornstein who not only has a lightning weapon but uses lightning based miracles...hmmm....
>>335998642
Yeah, I get that time is fucked, and you're all over the place, that's explained. I could even understand if you were finding a way to 'invade' the consciousness of something, but it just being a dream sounds really goofy. Aren't the dreams with the giants memories?
Maybe it is in a sense it's a dream, but not your own dream. Maybe the meditation of the dragon folk has a sort of 'awakening' layer, where they transcend reality and exist on a different level, leaving their body behind. But there are also meditating dragon bodied people on the Peak, which could be them seeking out another level of awakening. Not sure why ringing the bell calls NK, though. And if he exists in there, does that mean his body is still in the real world?
All bullshit head-canon, of course, but I'm not gonna believe it's just an ordinary dream, that's lame as fuck.
>>335999291
It's a comfy ending, though you also betray everyone's trust by doing it and made Ludleth burn himself alive for nothing
>>335999263
Left up to interpretation. It's clear they're both bad guys though. Still surprises me that the "b-team game" was the only one that mixed up Patches story for once.
>>335999253
>dragonSLAYER Orsntein
>Has a room dedicated to mounting Drake heads
>uses lightning based attacks solely because Dragon's are weak against it
>He became a dragon because why not?
Seriously? I doubt people change their life values that quickly.
>>335999263
Creighton was a murderer. You can find Creighton's "dragonslayer axe" (axe moveset with lightning damage) but it's description in Das3 is that is was used for murdering men rather than dragons.
Pate was a bit shady, but a bro through and through.
>>335996798
>DragonSLAYER
>doesn't slay Dragons
sure, son, sure
>>335999185
It doesn't really say anything other than it's passed down between the smiths of the forge. Which means he probably left or died at some point.
But it's still weird that he's the only one "held captive" by Firelink that doesn't have real world counterpart. You talk to the actual handmaid and find you and the Firekeeper's corpse. But Andre? Just a hammer.
>>335998374
ITP: baseless headcanon
>>335999291
It's the "I just killed everyone for no good reason" ending.
Worry not though, some new wannabe Gwyn will start the cycle all over again a few millennia down the line
>>335999330
I felt like Nameless King moved like Ornstein turned up to 11, and the Dragonslayer stuff linked them more, especially after finding his armour that seemed to have been thrown away. Reading the item descriptions of the Nameless King's stuff made me feel like it wasn't him, but it's not clear to me at all.
>>335999330
>Completely ignores all evidence proving it's Gwyn's firstborn to keep his shitty theory alive
Vaati, it's getting late.
