>Music is art
>Vidya is art
>There's literally nothing wrong with paying a teacher to git gud playing piano
>There's literally nothing wrong with paying a teacher to git gud at esport, say fightan games
>>335979041
yes, and?
>>335979226
people dont really do it ?
>>335979041
You know, I actually did teach a girl I know, how to beat Glass Joe.
Kind of funny, she's great at DOA, but struggled with Punch-Out!!.
>>335979041
there is art implicit in vidya, yes... as part of it's construction, but vidya, as a "general" concept is not art.
But there is nothing wrong in paying someone to teach you whatever you want to learn.
>>335979375
Some people in the FGC do it, but it's mostly bollocks and ego trips.
>>335979041
Would you h8 fuck vanessa carlton?
>>335979839
Why would you hate Vanessa carlton? She's top tier waifu, I would love tenderly
Pianos offer no instruction on their own to create music
Meanwhile, if a video game is incapable of providing basic instructions on its mechanics, then it's generally considered to be a shit vidya
The entire point of a game is that you're constantly being told to improve at the game or else you cannot progress, whereas there is no 'correct' way to play music.
Ergo, needing someone to teach you how to play represents an intrinsic failure of the game
TAKE EM AWAY DOWNTOWN
>>335979963
She looks like my ex.
>>335979041
>the vanessa carlton meme was 15 years ago
i bet she's a grody hag by now
>>335979657
Wait seriously? There's like hours worth of tutorial on youtube free
>>335979983
games can teach you how to play against the game itself, but for multiplayer it's a good idea to get tips from experienced players.
>>335980176
Some people just learn shit better with a guiding hand.
>>335979839
Oath I would. I'd walk a thousand miles just to see her.
JUST
>>335979041
>Vidya is art
Stopped reading there
>>335979041
I wonder if her knew album will be any good.
>>335980519
>Op Shop
Yeah it fuckin' looks like it. That belt is weathered as hell.
>>335979041
you actually was making sense but then
>fightan games
lost me here
>>335980519
Well shit.
>>335980395
why is she so cute /v/
>>335980519
fucking hell m8
>>335980176
There's also tons of tutorials for piano and other instruments on youtube, but that doesn't make it the best way to learn. Having an expert teach you gives immediate feedback, correction, and guidance on where to focus. Whether doing that with vidya is a waste of money or not, it's undoubtedly effective.
Pro gamers have been doing this since the Brood War era like in fucking 2007
It's nothing new and it happens.
Has there ever been any case of people getting better because of vidya "lessons", or is it just a trendy way of scamming impressionable kids?
You always see those "instructors" being involved with twitchshit and e-sports games, which are full of kids
You never see this sort of thing in games that take actual skill and have a more adult fanbase, like the Souls games
>>335981062
Is that the you're a fucking white male ad hom guy?
>>335981119
>You never see this sort of thing in games that take actual skill and have a more adult fanbase, like the Souls games
Falling for Souls is hard meme. Falling for mostly PvE game with broken PvP
>>335981394
I didn't said it was hard, just that it has high skill ceiling
>>335981481
>high skill ceiling
Nothing compared to real competitive game like Starcraft or Street Fighter
>>335981481
stop trolling
>>335979041
Lol.... Making video games is art, like playing a song.
But listening to a piano play isn't art.
It's like your hiring a teacher to help you listen to music.
>>335979041
Games are made so anyone can pick them up and learn everything on their own
Not fucking pianos
And Vidya being art is the most debatable thing ever
But there's really nothing wrong with paying, it depends on the price and relevance of the game though.
>>335981749
>not having a music coach so you can acquire /mu/ patrician tastes
>>335979041
>you need to pay someone to get good
>>335981749
spot on.
>>335981749
>making music is art
>making vidya is art
>playing music is art
>playing vidya is not art
???
I know most people here hates e-sport thing and blah blah, but there is a big difference between someone who get paid for playing videogams at top level and pay someone to help him to improve vs someone who paid someone to git gud playing vidya casually
>>335982540
Unless it's minecraft or something there's not really any pure creative expression that's not limited by programming in video games
>>335982973
Most piano lesson takers are not aiming to be professional pianists though
$100 for an hour with Gootecks
>>335982540
>playing music
>art
Why? Well, composing music is definitely art, but playing? I don't know, anon
>>335982649
>they made giant asses out of themselves in public that the internet doxxed them.
Jesus fuck.
>>335983104
Kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ih06VY71vA
>>335979552
>I'm entitled to the point where I can decide what is art and what isn't
Anything crafted/thought can be considered art.
>>335979041
>paying for knowledge
wew
Some people are born cucked
