Mark kern-
https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/72604 ... 64?lang=nl
Nost devs-
https://twitter.com/NostalBegins/status ... 9208529920
CONFIRMED!!! AW FUCK YEAH!!! BLIZZ LISTENED!
LEGACY SERVERS HERE WE COME BROS!!
So excited I fucked up the links, sorry mates.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Grummz/status/726049458471870464?lang=nl
https://mobile.twitter.com/NostalBegins/status/726049479208529920
>>335910324
BUMP PLS, THIS IS BIG.
Nost not offical?
>>335910239
DELETE THIS. RETAIL WOW IS PERFECT.
DELETE THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS.
I CAN TASTE THE TEARS OF ALL THE BLIZZSHILLS WHO ARE GETTING KEKED RIGHT NOW.
"IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN" KEKEKEKEK
>Get to play Vanilla again when raiding is done for the week
Feels comfy.
>link goes nowhere
k lad
>>335910239
>Demon Hunter in that old vanilla picture
>Took them until now to make it a class
>>335912116
>i cant read the thread
>they announce pristine server
wait for it
>this is all a ploy to get the frogs arrested for copyright infringement
>>335912305
Then why would they invite the fat asian weeb?
It's all just a calculated shilling, good publicity before Legion launch to get maxinum coverage on front pages of gaming sites.
>>335910239
>>335910324
>Broken links
>Then fucking mobile links
WEW LADS
>>335912383
to make him watch while they slap on the cuffs
>phoneposting
>>335912116
2nd post artard.
>immediately post this on the official game forums
>no opinion or bias of any kind, just info
>immediately the thread is flooded with damage control and OP is downvoted
fuck yes
I dont know what I will love more
Playing Vanilla, or the salt from the Blizzdrones who dont like vanilla.
>>335912587
Blizzshills probably so assmad right now.
I wonder what tradechat has to say, that stupid cunt.
>>335912712
Was thinking the same thing
>>335910239
>https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/72604 ... 64?lang=nl
>https://twitter.com/NostalBegins/status ... 9208529920
>>335912750
Why would blizzard shills get mad on extra content in their game?
>>335912750
Literally zero mention.
HO LEE FUK
IT'S ACTUALLY
FUCKING
HAPPENING
>>335912587
>Blizz forums are reddit in a nutshell after the upboat system
Blizzard forums are home of fanboys and they are the king of manchildren. Threads are always le funny flirting threads instead of actual game discussion shits fucked.
>>335912886
Not him but there are plenty who are convinced Vanilla is the worst thing ever, and that Blizzard supporting vanilla would be the death of blizzard.
They really are that stupid.
>>335912886
>anti legacy blizzcuck "it will never happen, vanilla was garbage"
>blizz releases legacy
>anti legacy fags cry
>>335912886
Blizzard customers are at their happiest when they are paying as much as possible for as little as possible, giving them reason to cry as they continue endlessly shelling out money.
>>335912886
It threatens the legitimacy of their game and their pay2win nonsense if other people are playing a better/harder/less casual version of it on a legacy server.
EA did the exact same thing
The EXACT same thing
There was a shitstorm about origin and privacy concerns back when BF4 released. EA had a round-table with the instigators behind said shitstorm and coerced them to pedal back and release positive statements about EA
This is PR with no actual results
Don't be tricked yet again
>>335912587
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743744624
found you
We better get news tomorrow.
Why are none of you considering that Blizzard may be offering Nostalrius staff jobs for helping to develop future content and not legacy servers?
why are nostfags so toxic? You guys do realize the irony of calling somebody a blizzdrone then begging for the same chance to suck blizzard's cock, right?
Everyone wants legacy servers, it's how you argue that is so obnoxious
>>335913112
>Everyone wants legacy servers, it's how you argue that is so obnoxious
What the fuck are you talking about, retard?
>>335913112
>BLIZZKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH LMOA HOW'S THAT COCK TASTE SHILL ROFLMFOA
>Blizzard does Legacy Server
>THANK YOU BASED BLIZZARD
>>335913112
>Everyone wants legacy servers
No they absolutely do fucking not. The Blizzard forums is filled with people convinced vanilla would be a catastrophe and no one wants it.
>>335912750
fuck off
Don't get your hopes up.
Legacy servers will only be a thing the moment the Blizzard anounces they will stop making content for WoW, wich is far from happening.
They will most likely discuss the situation, Blizzard will explain that they don't want to open that can of worms and Nostfags will get told.
Blizzard probably realized nostalgiafags are the only people who will still subscribe after the current Facebook game gets old to casuals.
>>335913226
Well yeah, the Blizzard forums are full of people other modern WoW players hate. Nobody but that shit hole likes that shit hole. Don't worry, when it is all said and done they will 180 and defend it to the death.
>>335913226
Because it would be
No dumbass in their right mind would literally pay a company to play an older version of an MMO that would never update
>>335913348
Thanks for proving my point
![2788360-3245365202-Resid[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pHyf1A7.jpg "2788360-3245365202-Resid[1].jpg")
>>335913348
>No dumbass in their right mind would literally pay a company to play an older version of a game
this is you
So signing this petition did work after all.
And I don't even play WoW.
Have fun, lads.
This will just end in tears, won't it?
I mean, you don't seriously believe something will come off this, do you?
HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>335913084
Aand deleted
Guys, listen. I don't want to see you get hurt. Just treat this like E3 or a Nintendo Direct and don't expect much of anything.
>>335913226
>>335913198
The petition proves you wrong by default
Let's take the nost numbers again, if we assume it's true that 150k people played nost actively, the petition has now 250k signatures which means that there are more people who wants legacy servers than there were people who played on nost to begin wtih
Keep on cherrypicking your epic blizzard forum posts though, there is literally no reason for you to be so hateful.
>>335913525
I believe they'll have FBI agents waiting and Nostalrius devs will go to jail.
Kern's rent will be paid for a month to keep quiet about it.
>>335913645
Learn to read, all you did was agree with me idiot
>>335913645
do you really not believe those numbers are inflated from dummy accounts? people have admitted to spamming the petition with phony signatures to make it seem more legitimate. on top of that, the server was free, so you can't really assume it would be successful if blizzard made an official server but put it behind a paywall. there's simply no way to tell because the distribution model wasn't the same.
>>335913763
>Kern needing money
Kek.
>>335913645
>People spam signing the petition with fake names = real, paying people
top lel
>>335910239
>fighting a red dragon
For what purpose. Red dragons are bros.
>>335913907
>anyone who doesnt agree with me doesnt exist
Hello Tumblr!
>>335913850
Dunno, I've always wanted legacy servers, it would always give me something to do while not wanting to play retail. The point is that I've never liked nostfags, not because of them having fun with something but because they've been incredibly obnoxious. Just look at this thread and all the other threads spammed on /v/ now
and the ultimate irony is that they call their "opponents" blizzcusk and drones when they themselves want to suck blizzard's dick
Cognitive dissonance at it's best
> only nost players uses term blizzdrone
"blizzdrone" even "ea drone and biowaredrones" were a thing since 2009. In wow since mid-wotlk i think with most after cata heroics nerf.
/v/ hated blizz for fucking up sc2, d3 and wow long before nost even launched. Hell even wWoD hate started after le epic content patch with selfie. Shutting off nsotalrius were just another nail
>>335914025
the difference is they want to pay blizzard for something good, "blizzcucks" are happy paying for shit.
>>335913850
A vanilla server is a huge advertisement campaign.
>>335914250
>> only nost players uses term blizzdrone
That's true, no one else gave a shit until you guys started making multiple threads daily since nost got taken down. You even started shitposting in unrelated stuff like overwatch just because you were spiteful
>>335914341
There is no difference, and let's be honest, "stop liking what I don't like" is not an argument
>tfw number 148 in Kronos queue
>estimated wait time 170 minutes
Life sucks right now
>>335914390
I'm not a Nost player and I use "Blizzdrone," you fucking Blizzdrone.
![Wonder+loli+_225912b1d41f0fb876fea3f8d8a07ade[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/l3apTvn.png "Wonder+loli+_225912b1d41f0fb876fea3f8d8a07ade[1].png")
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>people actually think that anything will happen
>>335912886
>extra content
Would be nice, but development of legacy content would most likely come at the cost of development on the main game. Resources don't magically appear and I'd prefer to have as little cut from future expansions as possible, since Blizzard has a history of doing so already.
>>335914390
>blizzcucks in charge of reading comprehension
>>335914562
>>335914515
>again proving me right
anyway you sidestepped completely, I never said that "only nostfags uses blizzdrone"
Bear in mind that the meeting with Blizzard is not the announcement Nostalrius are teasing this weekend and that it'll be something different.
Having said that, holy shit this is big news in the debate. I hope legacy servers come out of this.
IT'S
FUKKEN
HAPPENING
>release vanilla wow
>have "seasons" where people level and play through old patched content as it used to be
>do this for every expansion and utilize unused capitol
> charge and extra fee on top of your wow sub so newfags dont feel forced to pay for it
>add incentive and achievements that reward you stuff in legion if you do it in Vanilla
There we go, everyone wins.
>>335914780
This I can see them doing and working well desu
>>335914718
>> only nost players uses term blizzdrone
>That's true, no one else gave a shit until you guys started making multiple threads
>I never said that"only nostfags uses blizzdrone"
>>335914780
>charge and extra fee on top of your wow sub so newfags dont feel forced to pay for it
Or just make it two separate sub options.
>>335914718
You literally did.
>>335914546
>Resources don't magically appear and I'd prefer to have as little cut from future expansions as possible, since Blizzard has a history of doing so already.
And I prefer a good game, like the one that we all used to love.
You just want a cuck game so you can prep your wifes bull while sitting in garrison.
>>335913850
I didn't sign the petition and I'd love a legacy server, so the numbers are in some ways under representitive of the population.
>>335914896
First of all you brought up the completely unrelated issue about only nostfags using slurs
Secondly, what I meant is that nobody really gave a shit to warrant tons of blizzard shitposting before nost got taken down, i.e. all of them are nostfags
Sure there's an occasional hurr durr blizzdrone when people post that image comparing d3 to diablo 2 and how much better d3 is, but never on this scale
>>335914918
But anon how would jew activision make your money? Thats all they really care about. If i were them i would force you to pay for wow, and this novelty of playing vanilla would be extra.
>>335915118
I'd say extremely over representative given there are more signatures than there were active Nost players, and you aren't even going to get the full brunt of those people because a good chunk of them were playing it because it is free.Still looking forward to it, if it happens.
>>335915309
>because a good chunk of them were playing it because it is free
Proofs?
I'd never play WoW, but I'd totally sign up if they rereleased vanilla. I'm assuming some sizable fraction of the old playerbase (at least a profitable fraction) would want to play as well, but I've seen very little aside from the petition in hard numbers.
>>335914918
If you think they will make two different sub options then you are massively deluded. They will simply unlock legacy servers if you have a subscription.
You are not going to get it cheaper, that is for damn sure.
Be honest.
Are you going to play on a vanilla server if they introduce it?
My answer is no.
>>335915436
you can't honestly believe a good amount of those people wouldn't play if they had to pay for it
>>335914967
>immediately jumping to cuck shit
It's fine if you don't want to have an actual discussion and just shit post.
There's no simple solution to the problem. Blizzard is a large company who has to balance between investors and their playerbase. Another problem stems from the fact that there are no outlying agreements for what a legacy server should contain. Graphics, transmog, Battle.net are all contested issues for the subject. Should the server have seasons? How should this be done if it were to be implemented?
Again, if you think it's as simple as plugging a server into a wall, you are underage or a fucking idiot.
>>335914780
>have "seasons" where people level and play through old patched content as it used to be
Diablo 2 is the best blueprint we have for this, and that game is super fucking old. Despite that it has a reasonable online community that still enjoys the same old grind even though no new content will ever be released.
>>335915482
No.
>>335915482
i might dabble from time to time, but otherwise probably not since it's not meant for casuals compared to modern MMO game design. one thing i don't miss about vanilla is dedicating half my life to reaching endgame and then maintaining it. a lot of people want the community from vanilla back because they don't have social lives irl.
>>335915482
Yes, but only if it's included in my sub at no extra cost
>>335915482
yes and i would pay for it
>>335915482
probably, if both versions are in the same subscription.
>>335915512
>you can't honestly believe a good amount of those people wouldn't play if they had to pay for it
It wasn't an option to pay, so how can we know?
The fact is that it was the only place offering that product or service, and it absolutely shit on any single retail server. Even if only half of the Nost players would pay, the number of people (like me) who don't like the idea of pirate servers but who would love to just play through vanilla one more time, is probably a substantial number.
>>335915767
>not subbing and playing on a private server
Oh boy since Vanilla is coming back I can go back to UD rogue and just casually style over everyone to remind them how unabalanced they were
>>335915482
why would i want to do again what i did 10 years ago?
fucking nostalriusfags are completely delusional
WHAT WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN:
Nost devs will get paid a nice sum to get their public support for "pristine" servers.
Full PR mode engaged, Blizz will release pristine servers with latest trash xpac but with disabled group finder, no one will want to play on it, they will close the servers in a year.
>in b4 it's only a Vanilla server
>forced to still use shitty private server garbage if I want to play BC or WOTLK
>>335911396
I still don't understand this minor meme. What does this fix? It just makes crafted items more valuable. Makes people grind for mats more. Uhhhhhhh
>>335915845
It's not the idea of robbing blizz, it's that I don't want pirate code on my computer and I don't want what happened to Nost to kill my enthusiasm for OG WoW.
There are SO many issues that can be avoided by not requiring vanilla players to use pirate servers or other illegal means to play their game.
>>335915947
Lol no, the nost devs can't be bribed. They got this far all out of love for the game.
>>335915976
>blizzard/activision
>leaving that much money on the table
>2016
Say what you will about modern Blizz/Acti but holy fuck if they can RESELL YOU AN OLD EXPANSION they will gladly take your money if there's enough interest.
>>335915482
Probably not man. It's been over 10 years, and my priorities in life have changed
>>335915436
>Proofs?
I don't think it's difficult to imagine that a free game would have people trying it out just because it's free. It happens to literally every free game.
Fucking nostalrius poor faggots wasting Blizzards time.
Your childhood is fucking over you are not gonna relieve it. Go fucking kill yourselves losers
>>335915996
Just having Blizzard's stability is a huge win for them. A lot of private servers are hilariously broken in a lot of ways, even in dungeons and raids. Nost was the exception to the rule. That plus not having to torrent shit and also not having to worry if a C&D is going to come crashing down on the server, or if the population will die or if the people running it will get bored, is also a win.
I played private servers for BC and Lich King content but didn't play Nost because I typically knew how it was going to go, and I have friends who had the same viewpoint. It won't last, so why put in the hours?
Blizzard can still sell their retail game, having private servers can only be a win for them. New players on retail might stay subbed longer if there's legacy content to play (i.e. once they get bored of the shitty new xpacs), and legacy players might actually try out the new xpac just to see what it's like. I would probably be still subbed to retail if there was legacy shit to do.
>>335910239
OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS
>legacy go live
>its not as big as people expect it to be
>less than 3k players
>L-LOL BLIZZARD GOT EPIC TROLLED ECKS DEE YOU GOT MEME'D ONthis is why we can't have nice things
>>335915482
Yes. I started in TBC and never really experienced vanilla outside of broken private servers.
>>335915482
No. Already did everything, and MMOs have turned people into worse people now so getting 40 people will be too much work.
Also the vanilla balance was garbage
>>335915309
>more signatures than Nost players
You didn't have to play on Nost to want a vanilla server that isn't subject to the whims of the random fucks running it.
>>335916087
Haha no, they are jews.
Did you not notice how the server was miraculously shut down after donations started getting low?
>>335916341
>implying everyone from Nost isn't going to play
If they allow people who have accounts already then.. shiet, everyone will come back.
If it ever goes live, will they update the server? Would they add new stuff? Would people legitimately keep playing for years with the same old content?
>>335910239
So what's the dream, the best case scenario for legacy servers, assuming they become a thing?
>Servers for each expansion with possible transfers from earlier to later (so you can just move to the Wrath server when you're done with TBC and so on)
>Server for Vanilla which mimics the updates along roughly the same timescale that they were released way back when. Includes updates for expansions (so after a few years it will change into a TBC server and so on) - possibly open another
>Legacy server is Vanilla with the latest patch for it, with frequent community polls for possible updates/changes that don't change the original feeling too much (pretty much like OSRS)
I want to see vanilla servers get so bored they start breaking the game and finding new tricks, like the equivalent of bunnyhopping.
>>335916472
I can vouch you many were multibotters.If you ever go to china and its chinese markets you would hear about it but its long gone
>>335915987
What doesn't it fix. The problem with the game is content and having absolutely no consequences. This provides stuff to do by making farming really interesting gear possible, and it provides demand because of permanent durability loss.
>>335915996
I agree (except for it being illegal if it's still being paid for through the sub). Modding/PS communities should just make games if there's any chance that they get C&D'd.
I don't know. This all seems a little to good to be true. It's definitely not going to pan out like I think it will. It still might suck. Remember this is 2016 blizzard not 2004/5 bilzzard we are talking about.
>>335915482
Not really. Vanilla had a lot of stupid design ideas and completly broken specs.The only good thing about it comparing to WoD is the feeling of community and togetherness, I find it much worse on all aspects besides that.
>>335910239
I will be suprised if they are gonna go for it. Dont care if i have to resub to play on that server.
>>335916573
>bunnyhopping
>WoW design where mobility is actually interesting
why do they have to meet?
>>335915482
Likely, but not to any great extent. It's going to be something I do on the side when I'm done with my Legion things for the week and while I'm not playing any other games.
Quite frankly I don't have the time to play Vanilla the way I would have when I was a teenager.
>>335914469
But that's the vanilla experience, anon. Don't tell me you don't enjoy it?
>>335915482
I would definitely gove it a try, i have 2 friends that were into nostral and 3 that were on the fence before it went down. Yes if they were involved inwould definitely give it a shot and ive always wanted to do aq40 in its prime.
Also the vanilla setting of Wow is at the series finest.
>Legacy server
>Requires a SEPARATE subscription, independent of the main game
>Account-wide shit is available here, including heirlooms and mounts
>The fun bugs are fixed, but new ones make the servers nigh unplayable
>Servers constantly crash because it's lowest on priority
>Leveling is faster than it was in the past
>They add an NPC to the main game called Nos'Talaris
>Talking to him prompts him to comment about how he misses the old days.
>>335916828
>Legacy server
>Not happening
This is all you need to write.
>>335915482
I might feel a slight urge, but i wouldn't want to play it without slight fixes.
>talent tweaking
Let's be honest, a good chunk of talents were worthless trash.
>bring in the transmog
I remember my warrior looking like a fucking clown in his DPS gear. I want to use that sexy lvl40 plate set for looks instead.
>honor system
This depends a bit on what patch they would bring Vanilla back in. If just before BC then fine, the system made sense at that point. But anything before and the honor system was absolute trash. Anyone claiming otherwise never held a high rank.
>>335916502
>>335916573
IM SCARED
I hope they at least put Blood elf in, Silvermoon must be the best thing about this shit show
>>335916828
I keep reading stuff like this but it's obvious Nostalrius and legacy servers were popular because people really enjoyed grinding their teeth on really tedious and difficult shit. Changing it would anger old players and fail to wrangle new ones.
>They aren't just throwing together some assets and slightly improved gameplay for WoW 2
Missed opportunity.
>>335916964
Backporting all this to vanilla would require more coding than an average new expansion.
And then there are all the exploits. They come out almost daily.
They would have to fix THOUSANDS of them.
You have no idea how much effort would it be to make a good vanilla server.
>>335916318
But there is a massive barrier to entry in getting access to a private server, it's not just automatic or easy.
>People still believe it will happen
Yeah and we also getting Starcraft Ghost and Lost Vikings sequel.
Reminds me of this one time i worked at Jack in the Box. Some dudes in suits were 'meeting' with this black hobo who kept a kids boombox to listen to radio and do crossword puzzles. Anyway these guys in suits were asking about intricate details about this hydro electric engineering blueprints. Hobo was given them advice and they kept on buying him food. Was the wierdest thing i ever saw. I imagine thats how the meeting with Mark Kern is going to go.
>>335915482
No. I play private servers because they are free.
>>335916573
We actually did this already
There were a few patches that allowed people to climb vertical objects by jumping into them at an angle, getting stuck somehow in the model and then repeating that until they reach the top.
It allowed people to climb things like the gates of SW or the large chapel.
Then there was the whole if you nudge yourself into this bit of wall and blink, you end up underneath Stormwind.
>>335917128
Anon, SC:Ghost was released a few weeks ago.
>>335917114
>But there is a massive barrier to entry
>Register an account on their page
>Copy paste their information over the default in the realmlist in notepad
Damn damn damn damn damn damn daaaaamn
>>335916573
Spelldamage Rogues are the future of Vanilla, no joke.
>>335913428
>A remake of a game that added new mechanics, areas and story =/= a server where you can play an older expansion of an mmo
>>335910239
Mark Kern is so desperate for work he is groveling back to Blizzard...
>>335916502
>Blizzard don't have to support the server by adding any content whatsoever
>It still prints money and appeases the community
When they can get away with 16 months of no content in WoD, they can get away with infinite months of no content in vanilla.
Mark "I'm a huge fucking weeaboo and nobody hires me anymore" Kern
>>335917185
Walljumping was fixed sometime in mid-TBC, which is why private servers lack it (they're all based on 2.4.3). You couldn't actually do it for truly vertical walls, but very sleep slopes.
Getting on top of (and by extension, underneath) SW though, along with many others tricks, can actually be done without walljumping.
>>335916356
vanilla and BC weren't that different save for some new spells and talent changes. in terms of content the two expansions are almost totally separate, so if you leveled up in BC, you also leveled up in what was basically still vanilla as well.
>>335917430
Mark "I blew 3 million dollars on a failed marketing bus before my game was in alpha" Kern
What the fuck does Mark Kern even have to do with this
Why does this guy insert himself into every piece of internet drama
>>335915482
Probably not.
I play on a privateWotLKserver and I'm not really interested in vanilla.
If they added a Wrath server however I'd be all for it.
RETAILKEKS LITERALLY ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>335917647
Attentionwhoring. 99% of people, not the likes of kungen, knew who he was until now. It's a brilliant marketing opportunity, Mark Kern will probably make a new game again and now he has the "I fought for vanillafags" title
>>335914546
They don't fucking develop anything for current WoW, anyway. I don't understand this logic. They're doing the bare minimum to sustain their game, that's why they haven't updated WoD in a year.
>All this talk about a Vanilla legacy server
W-What about BC? It was objectively better in every way
>>335917905
BC players aren't nearly as stuck in the past as Vanilla players. Didn't make enough noise to be noticed.
>>335918012
You are aware that your trolling just comes across as delusional, right?
So I don't get any of this.
Let's say Blizzard concedes and they actually release some sort of vanilla flavor realms, now what? people will play that indefinitely? for how long? in which state exactly will it be released, day-1 or late patches with TBC talents/balance adjustments and such? will they even expand on that and "fix" whatever? will people/players really accept that?
Also, how long will it take for people to start demanding TBC or WotLK? will they also comply?
> you think you want but you don't
I still don't get what you guys want exactly.
Isn't Legion going to be the last expansion?
It only makes sense to create legacy servers to keep some people into wow while the playerbase slowly dies at Legion.
>>335917852
>no Zul'Aman
>>335917905
Yeah, this.
I would REALLY like to leave Excalibur behind for something entirely blizzlike. Corecraft taking too long and literally no other BC servers are that good. Would jump to a legacy BC server in a heartbeat.
>>335918072
>people will play that indefinitely? for how long?
Given that the average age of people who played vanilla is probably ~10 years older than the current playerbase, probably a lot longer, with less time played per month.
This is the perfect market for WoW.
>>335918065
I'm not trolling, but okay.
>>335918216
WOW U CANT SAY THAT BCUZ NOST WAS FREEEEEE!!!!!!!
>>335918314
This is literally the most bizarre talking point that blizzard fans are coming up with, and I really don't see the logic.
w/e, stay salty that other people like other things?
>>335915482
>oh boy I sure do love walking everywhere until level 40
What do you think?
>>335918520
>Stay salty that other people like things
you mean like people are salty that people like modern WoW?
>>335918560
I NEED MOUNTS
I NEED INSTANT GRATIFICATION
I DONT CARE ABOUT THE MAGNIFICENT WORLD YOUVE BUILT OR EXPLORING IT
THOTTBOT SAYS I NEED TO GO TO THESE EXACT COORDINATES AND ALL THAT MATTERS IS GETTING THERE ASAP
Blizzardrones completely missing the point, yet again
>>335918690
Stop fooling yourself, vanilla leveling was the same quest tunnel vision experience, just slower and more boring.
>"Blizzard has agreed to meet us"
How exactly does this confirm vanilla servers? Nost devs reached out to blizz, the meeting could be nothing more than them asking for their server back, don't be fucking retarded.
>>335918690
Inconvenient =/= better.
>>335918216
>Given that the average age of people who played vanilla is probably ~10 years older than the current playerbase, probably a lot longer, with less time played per month.
Do you think? might be anecdotal, but it's the exact opposite in my case.
I played vanilla since release up to Cataclysm and I'm barely over the Age of Wizardom so I guess I fit right into that age demographic you're referring to, and even though I have really good memories I won't really play all that ever again, not even for a week or so, and I'm pretty sure about 3/4 of my friends I used to play with won't either.
>>335918690
I NEED TO WASTE TIME
I NEED TO ADMIRE OUTDATED GRAPHICS
I DON'T CARE ABOUT COMPLETING THINGS IN A TIMELY MANNER
MY QUESTHELPER ADDON WITH WOWHEAD COMMENTS EMBEDDED WITHIN TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT TO DO AS IT BLENDS IN SEEMLESSLY WITH MY COMPLETELY GENERIC UI
Vanillafags completely forgot to grow up, yet again
>>335918607
>you mean like people are salty that people like modern WoW?
What?
No ones trying to get blizz to remove modern WoW, why are you being silly?
>2015
>Be Kronos dev
>Build and script a vanilla server
>Server draws a lot of hype
>Shortly before you launch your server, a different vanillla server starts up
>The population flocks to Nost while your servers's population hovers just below a thousand
>FeelsBadMan
>Nost finally gets shutdown from blizzard
>All the players flock to your server
>Shortly after Blizzard announces legacy servers
Life must be suffering for a Kronos dev.
Sage and report all Gamergate Nostalrius threads. Do your part to stop this cancer from metastasizing.
It has been a long time since I played vanilla wow, and I was young when I did so.
As I've grown older (and no longer play wow for many years), I've read many articles on wowwiki, and kinda followed wow from afar. And actually come to be fascinated with the lore of the universe.
In my opinion, everything after wotlk is an abomination. Would I be ''satisfied'' lorewise (if you guys understand what I mean?) from just vanilla? Not sure how to formulate this question
>>335918929
>and even though I have really good memories I won't really play all that ever again, not even for a week or so
Vast minority, I think most people would love a trip down memory lane.
remember wowtards: you think you want legacy servers, but you don't.
>>335919078
fuck off SJW cancer.
>>335918819
Why would Kern be invited?
>>335919078
>report all Gamergate
What's the deal with this board and randomly referencing gamergate?
Just let it go, holy fuck.
>>335910239
>when our schedules align
what schedule? all this fat fuck does is shitpost on twitter and masturbate to anime.
>>335919078
>Gamergate Nostalrius
Huh, who would have thought
>>335919265
Mark Kern is a gamergater and this is all a stunt to advertise WoW.
>>335919265
We have a few ghazi shills here trying to occasionally start shit to keep their narrative spinning. Just ignore them.
>>335919083
probably not, the story didn't really mean anything. it was mostly just you, the player, helping out NPCs kill some small time baddies from zone to zone until you eventually got to the endgame raids. THAT's when it gets at least somewhat interesting with Ragnaros and Nefarion and whatnot. before that though, nobody gives a shit about the questing stories because there's nothing to get invested in other than your character, perhaps.
>>335919346
>gamergater
You're saying this as if it implies he's some sort of moustache twirling supervillain. I know you're probably an american retard dropped as a child who believes everything told to him in jewish media about all those horrible misgoynists from the HATE GROUP gamergate, but just shut the FUCK UP because nobody gives a shit about your shit opinion
>>335919171
Because he shoved himself into the middle of this shitshow for attention. You can imagine the backlash if the shining knight of legacy servers wasn't invited.
>>335919474
It has nothing to do with anything you just said and everything with Gamergate being a bunch of entitled man children.
Just think about what you're doing here. You're celebrating the fact that you will get to pay Blizzard 15 dollars a month to play a 12 year old game again.
You are the very definition of cuckold, and Gamergate is cancer.
I don't think they would talk about these pristine realms then all of a sudden say fuck that were doing progressive legacy realms instead. I think in the meeting they're going to set a date for the pristine realms and make some more strict alterations to it that bring you back to older content. I wouldn't get my hopes up just to risk getting hurt again. You know who they're dealing with.
>>335919346
>Mark Kern is a gamergater
And?
>>335919671
gg is a terrorist organization
Where does it say servers are confirmed?
Pretty site mohrraine is meeting with kern so he can slap kern with his big dick.
Will they fix rogues? They most nerfed class in the game?
>>335919718
lmao I'm sure people unironically believe this too
>>335919629
>with Gamergate being a bunch of entitled man children.
You're a fucking SJW-enabling retard for writing stuff like that.
>You're celebrating the fact that you will get to pay Blizzard 15 dollars a month to play a 12 year old game again.
Average wage in Sweden is far above 7 dollars an hour, but there's people who work for that aswell. Just working for two hours is enough to pay for one month of WoW, that's not alot of money.
Although I do see your central point with your post, I agree and I have made sure Blizzard hasn't gotten a dime out of me for many years, because I don't support the political opinions they express, and their practices. But IF they released Legacy servers, I'd be happy to overlook the political parts, and pay for a game I thought worth paying for.
>You are the very definition of cuckold
No, that'd be white men supporting anti-white causes such as yourself
>and Gamergate is cancer.
that'd be you again
I did not like the level 40 mount.
It took forever to get to that level and you spend a lot of time just using num lock run.
>>335917905
Most of the people I know or hear talking about legacy servers prefers BC over Vanilla, but it's just another battle in the same war. This whole fiasco with Nostalrius is hopefully the push we all needed.
In order to get BC we're going to have to win Vanilla first, and it'd have to do well enough for Blizzard to see BC as a possibility.
>>335919884
I loved that aspect of OG WoW, made you really feel connected to the world since you REALLY had to pay your dues.
>>335919884
go away casual
>>335915185
> nobody gives a shit until nost shitdown
Well, lets see
> d3 ith AH and no pvp fuckup
> sc2 hots disney story
> wow cata heroic nerf, fuckedup final raid, casualization
> MOP is ok and majority hates it for asian theme
> wod - just fucking everything about it
> sc2 lotv disney love story
> fucking paid shills on 4chan adversiting legion proven official fuckton of times
and for you
> only nost players call others blizzdrones
Oh, yeach, really blizzard to this point never gave me anything to rage about. Nostalrius is just another point to long list of blizzard fuckups. Only blizzdrone stry to defend anything from that list without acutal proving something
Is this gonna be a valve situation where they arrest the guys when they land
>>335919950
This.
Vanilla is a good first step, then we as the community (who made the game a success), will get more say in where it goes from there.
>>335919983
The first time is alright and I admit it gets you to admire the world. I particularly really enjoyed doing the Lock questline to get the mount.
I just didn't enjoy leveling alts.
>>335920043
>still not getting it
>> fucking paid shills on 4chan adversiting legion proven official fuckton of times
oh you're one of those, don't bother
"WoW Vanilla" servers that took too much resources would kill WoW once and for all.
It would simply be far better for them to hear all this complaining and fix things for Legion or the next xpac more in line with what made Vanilla good (or at least have servers with these features enabled)
>>335920126
there's nothing they can ''fix'' for legion and the next xpac, people simply do not like where the story and the world has gone, its themes and the implications. the game mechanics have changed radically over the years, entire classes are completely different, new classes, just everything about the game is different, it's not something they can ''fix'' with small changes, they'd have to completely revamp entire aspects of the game, which'd be the same thing as basically turning back the clock to vanilla
>>335920126
>"WoW Vanilla" servers that took too much resources would kill WoW once and for all.
Proofs? What numbers are you using? How do you know Blizzards financials? Do you have experience running servers, what are your credentials?
I'm assuming your full of shit, prove me wrong.
>>335919884
Pick a shaman and get ghost wolf at 20.
Either way, grow some fucking balls.
>>335920121
>I just didn't enjoy leveling alts.
A minor downside for the majority of people who want to just play the damn game again.
But yeah, I agree alts where tedious sometimes.
>Blizz invite Nost frenchies to burgerland
>They get arrested straight off the plane
>>335919021
It doesn't matter, does it?
If Kronos would get even half as popular as Nost did, Blizz would just shut them down.
Making a private server is a suicide mission.
>>335920474
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Let's be honest here, the only reason Blizzard is doing this is because of the sheer amount of people on Nost.
They didn't give two shits about a legacy server, even after people asked during TBC. But only because Blizzard sees the insane amount of money in it, now.
Fuck Blizzard, they stopped caring about their customers when BC was released, they knew they could shit out anything and people would keep playing.
>>335919437
>the story didn't really mean anything
>early human zone storylines tied into onyxia metaplot which concludes in brd and final raid
>silithid questlines present in the barrens, gadgetzan and un'goro with implications that something is happening in southern kalimdor
>ruins of thaurissan quest in burning steppes reveals events which tie into the history of the zone and the presence of ragnaros in molten core
And I haven't ever touched a vanilla server - these are actually quests that I remember off the top of my head simply because they are memorable.
I seriously think you're underselling the world building they did.
>>335919095
>Vast minority
Can you support that with something? did you play vanilla and would actually like to go back for an extended period of time knowing exactly "what's going to be on it" all the time? how about the people you know/played with? I don't really trust those nost population figures to be that significant for a number of reasons, so I rather hear from personal experiences.
It's not only me but also about 3/4 of those friends I played with, granted, there's like two or three guys I'm sure will definitively take the bait though.
>I think most people would love a trip down memory lane.
Sure we all love that, but in our case we hang out someplace over some beers or whatever and eventually the WoW topic comes out.
That doesn't mean we would actually play it all over again, be it current version or vanilla.
>>335920279
>Categorically prove something that hasn't happened yet
???
Splitting the population would never be good, and lowering the rate at which content is made for non-vanilla wouldn't be good for a game already losing subs.
>>335920273
Legion is already attempting to bring classes back to more where they were in Vanilla. Massive changes.
I'm keking so hard right now.
>>335918690
>Magnificent World
Look man some of the zones are pretty nice and some Eastern Kingdom zones are comfy as fuck, but walking around south Kalimdor fucking sucks
>>335915482
I'll be on there. Even if I'm chasing something I'll never obtain, at least I'll have fun doing it.
>>335920737
>Legion is already attempting to bring classes back to more where they were in Vanilla. Massive changes.
That won't change anything at all, the game will still be shit, it has so much more to do than just a class mechanically feeling a bit different.
Blizz should have done this from the start, Valve have proven this time & time again
>Hire modders
>$$$
Or
>C&D them
>No Money
>Negative PR
We all know which one most publishers pick
Odds he's serious?
>>335920889
>Changing extremely core gameplay elements won't make a game less shit
So now I know why Blizzard hasn't bothered; there is literally no pleasing you
pretty much "retail is shit because its retail" at this point.
>>335920761
Not him but fuck you. I wish we weren't living in democrasies, people like you don't deserve to be equal to others.
>>335920683
>did you play vanilla
I only played vanilla, I quit during early BC because I had to focus on other things, despite enjoying the game.
>and would actually like to go back for an extended period of time knowing exactly "what's going to be on it" all the time?
Yeah, I could see it taking 4-6 months to go 1-60, then 4-6 months in top tier raids and finally intermittent PvP and raids for another year to maybe try and get top-tier epics.
>how about the people you know/played with?
Some would come back, obviously you'd make lot of new friends in a legacy server and the community would probably independantly organize, much like other old games with older playerbases.
> I don't really trust those nost population figures to be that significant for a number of reasons, so I rather hear from personal experiences.
Nost was the diehards of the diehards, all of us casual diehards would love to play again, not to mention people who would switch from retail. We don't need 10 million people, we just need enough for 1-5 high/med servers.
>>335919718
So maybe don't fuck with us.
>>335921004
>So now I know why Blizzard hasn't bothered; there is literally no pleasing you
Jesus christ. Are you fucking retarded? Blizzards job IS pleasing me, so I purchase their content. The content in Cata, MoP, WoD and looks to be in Legion WAS, IS and WILL be shit. If I don't like it, I won't pay for it. Yes, this is about me, are you surprised?
And yes, changing a few classes around a bit doesn't please me.
And yes, retail is shit beacuse in case you didn't know, the mmo world of warcraft is LINEAR, unlike say RuneScape, which means ALL older content is COMPLETELY irrelevant after a new expansion.
Go to the isle of quel'danas for instance, one of my favourite areas in the entire game, it's COMPLETELY empty, not a single soul there for probably many years on each server.
>>335916750
Of course, people actually playing the game that you have to wait to play it! At least it's better than playing by yourself in an empty world like WoD
:^)
>>335915482
I will tell my friend and if he agrees on playing with me I'll start. Started plaiyng BC so I don't know how vanilla will be.
>>335920737
>Splitting the population would never be good
Why? The sub numbers are already abyssmal, bringing old blood back into the game would do wonders for the viability of the franchise long term.
Fact is that WoW has zero hype right now, any change could only be positive in that regard, and once you have hype and the diehards come back the community can finally start to rebuild and move forward.
>>335914516
>The Iron Horde must be stopped
That didn't even happen, the Iron Horde shit was cut out & replaced with the Legion
Orgrim's entire questchain & raid was cut for fuck sake
>>335910239
As lobg as they aren't charging you the full current sub to play on it it might be okay. A one time fee would be ideal desu.
If I have to pay for fucking current WoW to play it i'll stick with private desu
If it happens, I'm happy for you guys.
I've no interest in WoW, but I signed because it's silly that it isn't an option when so many people wish for it and would pay for it.
And really, if only 20k people resub for it, that's 20k more people paying and hardly anything is needed to maintain a server.
>>335914516
WoD WAS shit but this has been common for them to do leading up to a new xpac, or at least since cata/mop. MoP was free leading up to WoD.
I wonder what came first, the falling subs or Blizzard preferring to sell xpacs over actual subs.
>>335921362
>If I have to pay for fucking current WoW to play it i'll stick with private desu
You and like 2 other people lmao, everyone is going to leave for greener patures.
Get fucked pirate scum, enjoy playing private by yourself until you get a real job.
>>335921295
>"hey you gotta stop the iron horde"
>you kick the absolute shit out of them in the blasted lands
Why did we even bother going through the portal if they were such a non-threat?
>>335921482
k :)
>>335921103
>Nost was the diehards of the diehards, all of us casual diehards would love to play again
This. double digit IQ retards seem to have a hard time realising this.
i never played nost, but i would start playing legacy in an instant if it was released.
>>335921516
I want to impregnate a Draenei
Count me in. Legitimately subbing for this shit.
>>335921393
You are a gentlemen and a scholar.
Would you prefer pure vanilla or like RS and starting at Vanilla while letting the game go it's own way with community appraisal?
>>335921703
I think eventually the game will become like OSR, with community votes to decide future content. But only after a while after Blizzard realises there's potential for profit with Legacy (which there will be).
I would personally like the game to primarily be expanded on the storytelling part. The direction the story went after wotlk was shit.
Can you please stop pretending like Mark Kern is anybody
>>335921516
Also why we couldn't just destroy the dark portal? Is that ever explained?
>>335921527
thx bby
>>335921103
Not convinced yet about all this is such a good idea, but I guess more options is always good?
Also, I don't know if it would be wise segmenting the audience/community like that, so to speak, at least in the long run. I know most people who would play vanilla won't ever actually play current, but still.Fucking Blizzard, they shouldn't have messed with the game that much in the first place, what the fuck.
>>335921858
Might fuck up the planet.
Also what if you want to use it to go somewhere?
