what went right
Nothing. All those games are shit.
>>335898234
This.
Get some taste OP
All those games are boring as fuck though
>>335898234
>>335898359
>>335898407
t. consoleshit
>>335898359
>get some taste
>undermeme
>xenoshit
>oblivishit
>retro final fantasy
>>335898359
I really hope this image is a joke.
T-Tides of Numenera will st-still be good though.
>>335898439
>being so poor you can only afford a PC
Out.
>>335898359
>amazing games mixed with pure fucking shit
>>335898359
>oblivion
>undertale
>>335898205
AoD, UR and D:OS to a slightly lesser extent went right. The others are not very good.
>>335898359
>you share a board with subhumans like this
>>335898707
Dragonfall & Hong Kong are grate, fuck off pleb
>>335898205
I thought the pre-rendered backgrounds in Pillars were pretty great
>>335898707
>to a slightly lesser extent went right
I would really like to hear what isometric games do you think actually "went right".
>>335898205
Not much, from that grid.
>>335899054
Kind of wasted potential with all the boring forests and plains and whatnot. But when it tried to look pretty, it looked pretty as fuck.
>>335898234
>>335898359
>>335898407
>>335898521
>>335898707
>>335901237
>>335901247
Fuck off back to RPGCodex you sickening subhuman contrarians.
>>335901329
>both positive and negative comments
I'm not following you, anon.
>>335898205
Sorry, OP. Seems like you'll have to make a DnD thread if you want to talk about rpgs.
>>335898359
>Oblivion
>Undertale
"get some taste"
Get out of here, faggot
>>335898359
>calls other games shit
>unironically likes Dark Souls, Undertale, FF6, and Oblivion
I'm conflicted, anon. Your taste varies between godlike and complete shit, so the best I can give you is a 0/0.
>>335898205
Hong Kong was such a letdown
>>335898359
Try harder. You only play undertale.
>>335904472
In what way? The pacing is off and there are a lot of bugs but I thought the story and characters were great.
GREAT TIER
Pillars of Eternity > Underrail > Shadowrun: Dragonfall
GOOD TIER:
Shadowrun: Hong Kong > Divinity: Original Sin > Lords of Xulima > Serpent in the Staglands > Wasteland 2
GARBAGE TIER:
Shadowrun Returns > Age of Decadence
>>335898205
Most of those games are shit
>>335904658
>Pillars of Eternity
>>335904658
>GARBAGE TIER:
>Age of Decadence
>>335904472
How bad is it? I haven't played any of the new SR games because fuck that art style and UI, but HK looks a bit more appealing with the setting so I was considering giving it a go.
>>335904635
It'snot a bad game but after Dragonfall I was expecting something better. My own fault for being hyped.
>>335904658
I respect your opinion, anon. But tell me more about Lords of Xulima and Serpent in the Staglands.
>>335898205
Dragonfall and Div:OS went really right.
AoD, Underrail and SR: Hong Kong went quite right.
PoE tried to go right, but only going right would have been unbalanced so Sawyer removed that.
>>335904658
> Age of Decadence
>GARBAGE TIER
>>335898205
I like most of those games OP, tell me about this shadowrun series.
>>335898234
>Underrail
>shit
Way to prove you've never even touched it you fucking idiot.
>>335898359
>this post
Epic
>>335904910
Its not bad, Dragonfall is just better.
Dont touch Returns though.
>>335904910
HK is the best of the trio, but it has more of a focus on fantasy elements of Shadowrun
>>335898205
I play the actual Tabletop, Shadowrun is an awesome setting, but Honk Kong and Dragonfall are its only good games, the others are just awful.
>>335904658
>GREAT TIER
>Pillars of Eternity
>GARBAGE TIER
> Age of Decadence
>>335898205
>Vanilla Shadowrun
>Not Expeditions: Conquistador
Who else hyped for Expeditions: Viking?
>>335898205
Games I can play on my laptop that I bought for $400 three years ago.
>>335904910
The game and missions are shorter, you spend more time talking to people than on runs
>>335904719
>>335905759
>>335907085
He's right
PoE, DoS and Hong Kong were the only good ones
>>335898359
You first
>>335898205
AoD and DivOS were the only ones I liked.
>>335904658
I hope this is just b8 and people with taste this shit don't exist
>>335898205
It's a shame how neglected Age of Decadence is. It's probably the best game in there. And I only say probably because I haven't played Serpent in the Staglands yet.
>>335911971
And which ones did you try?
NOT IN THE MOOD FOR CHEESE?
>>335912598
Well, VD always knew he was developing a niche game. Actually, this goes for most games on that list (except for maybe PoE and WL2 that targeted much broader audiences). If you are on the same wave-length you are going to love them to death, otherwise they are meh at best.
>>335912598
It sold enough to be profitable
>>335898205
>the shittiest character out of the three in the GOG NPC vote for DOS2 won
Can't wait for all the edgy grimderp characters
How many of you actually played UnderRail?
It's actually pretty good.
>>335898359
>Mixing Deus Ex, Dark Souls, Wing Commander and Diablo II with Undermeme, Xenogears, Oblivion, FFVI(It's ok though) and Warzone 2100
>>335913719
Just started my fourth playthrough. The previous two I kind of rushed, but I swear to god this time I'm going to take it slow as a glacier and finally solve some of the remaining secrets.
>>335904658
Despite being really limited in RPG mechanics Dragonfall was a fucking fun game. I ran out of shit to even buy my character like halfway into the game though, which is really goofy. Soundtrack was also fucking fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhKX0ug38Cs
>>335913719
I bought it, set up my character and did the tutorial but I just couldn't get into the art style. It's so bland, at least in the early areas. I'll give it a shot later but I have like 60 games I've started and have barely played.
>>335913958
What's wrong with Xenogears anyways?
>>335916323
The art style really shouldn't keep you from playing it. It might not look great, but an rpg doesn't have to be scenery porn to be worth your while.
>>335916516
I'm really sensitive to lack luster/bad art styles. I don't mind supporting the game as it looks fucking fun and I loved Fallout 1 and 2, but I'll need time to suck it up.
someone explain to me what popamole means
>>335916323
>Xenogears
It's simply not as good as people claim. I loved it for the mecha and the music but that's it. It's supposedly deep story is the equivalent of babby's first religion is evil experience.
>>335898815
> glorified Visual novel with shitty XcomEU-like combat
> good
Also I bet like most SRfags you think the first one was kinda shitty but somehow DF and HK being 95% identical they're great
look, it's happening here too
>>335904658
>>335898205
DivOS is the only good one because it actually tries to push the genre forward by having a world that's actually interactive
it still fucked up by making it so the combat becomes trivial after the first third of the game (or earlier if you actually try to optimise)
>>335916628
That's a shame, but hey, if it bothers you then there's not much that can be done about it. Take your time, maybe you'll get used to it eventually. I know I used to find every isometric game vomit inducing and distracting until something clicked and graphics stopped mattering to me altogether.
>>335898205
divinity original sin was great, rest of your list is literally who though (apart from shadowrun but from what I hear they're somewhat mediocre games and they only really stand out because they're cyberpunk)
>>335916667
Try to imagine this in a vidya context.
>>335913719
> combat akin to the original Fallouts
You won't trick me again codex
>>335917423
This isn't a 3x3 thread you dumb cunt,but besides Fallout 3 yours is pretty good, Dead Space 1 & 2 really don't get enough love
>>335917924
i just saw people arguing about video games and wanted to give them more to argue about, though i maybe should have been tipped off to this not being a 3x3 thread with the lack of actual 3x3s
>Dead Space 1 & 2 really don't get enough love
i think it has a lot to do with the internet's undying appraisal of other popular survivor horror franchises like resident evil or silent hill
which is a shame, because dead space brings a lot of cool shit to the table
>>335916667
Nowadays it's just used to mean "casualized"
Originally, it came from the phrase "whack-a-mole" - which you can see here>>335917434
The context was that popamole was used to denigrate Cover shooters, which were considered a casualization of the FPS genre from its Arena shooter roots. You spend a lot of time waiting for enemies to come out of cover so you can shoot them, hence "pop-a-mole" games
>>335917449
AoD is Fallout melee combat if it was good
>>335921535
Is it true that AoD is actually a post-apocalyptic game? From interviews and shit I always got the impression it was not-Rome with pagan magic.
>>335921535
> AoD
> good combat
oi im laffin
>>335921830
You find bits and pieces of what looks like modern day technology but the game is pretty shit at making the ancient civilization and the downfall make any sense
>>335921830
Yes it's a post-apocalyptic mishmash of roman and magic stuff. I wish they went with the late Roman aesthetic but the game would probably sell even less than it already did.
>>335922054
The combat is good. You have tons of tools for winning fights and making effective chokepoints to deal with large groups and various moves for dealing with different opponents. My only complaint is ending your turn doesn't convert remaining AP to AC
>>335922396
> You have tons of tools for winning fights and making effective chokepoints to deal with large groups and various moves for dealing with different opponents.
You have options but most fights you'll just spam your regular/fast attack or the armor piercing attack over and over until all the enemies are dead, maybe using an item if it's a hard fight
and then we get to the absolutely horrible group battles where you have to wait for 10+ people to take their turn after your 1-2 actions.
>want to try white March
>remember i have to start with the base game
>>335923358
Why would you want to play White March if you have no interest in the base game? It really isn't one of those cases where it's worth playing the expansion even if you want nothing to do with the original. It's somewhat better, yeah, but it's mostly just more of the same.
>>335898205
>Divinity
ayyyy good choice m8
IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!
>>335923575
I heard it was better
>>335923839
Have they said anything about itemization?
>>335898205
>tfw you can't even find Icons for two of your favorite games because nobody cares about them
It feels pretty bad
anyone else?
>>335913719
I'm loving it so far
>>335923931
>The Enhanced Edition will have more unique and craftable equipment, and D:OS 2 will continue to expand on that.
>All the Divinity RPGs have had unique equipment (though in DD the stats were still randomized).
>>335924235
>337 h.
How?
>>335924675
Will it still be diablo-tier though
>>335898205
Heres the real question
Is wasteland 2 any good compared to fallout and underrail?
>>335923850
Well, as I said it IS better, somewhat. But it doesn't really fix any of the things people dislike about the game. And it's not a MotB situation or anything like that, the story is nothing to write home about, personally I found it even more boring than the original campaign. Unless you already like Pillars you have zero reason to play WM.
>>335924789
replayability
>>335924235
Don't let the memes get it you, its a fun game
>>335924789
I'm assuming 200 of those would come from loading screens.
>>335898205
How is the geneforge series?
>>335924972
Ok, thanks
>>335925063
lel
>>335925014
there's nuggets of truth in all memes
>>335898205
ive played the snes shadowrun but never finished it. Should i finish that before i try the new one?
>>335925104
Fantastic freedom of exploration (but not necessarily rewarding), very simple character building system but it serves its purpose, kinda shit combat, meh writing but for some reason the delivery of it feels great, and it's an A fucking + backstabbing cunt simulator.
And Fyoras are cute little critters, even if they suck dick balls in combat. I'm assuming if you are interested in the game there is no point in talking about graphics anymore.
https://youtu.be/sx_kfUVowiA?t=1m28s
Combat system is looking really good but in a way I really wish this wasn't a Kickstarter game because people are plebs and vote for the lamest shit in all of their polls.
>tfw not autistic enough to enjoy those rpgs where you make your whole party
>>335926604
I always find them less interesting because there's no party dynamics where everyone has their own motivations and feelings. The worst is when you pick the dialogue between party members in conversations amongst themselves.
>>335926038
I think I'll get it on steam for $5
>>335926878
Go for it. It's a great series, but if I want to be brutally honest, we give it a pass on a lot, and I mean lot of things we would never accept from any of the games OP posted for example.
>>335898205
>Memeland 2
>>335927297
well for a dollar a game I wouldnt expect too much. I would be satisfied with serviceable combat but nice exploration
>>335927898
In that case you are probably going to like it, maybe. Just remember that the game does not expect you to explore everything. If you are getting bored, continue with the main quest. If you are having trouble with a map, maybe you are just underleveled. But it's also possible that tit's simply impossible for your build. Don't worry about it. You will never be able to go everywhere, regardless of your build.
>>335898359
>Undertale
>Oblivion
Anon...
>>335924235
yay familia
