Could Melee be on of the highest, if not the highest, competitive 1v1 video game in terms of skill ceiling and skill required to be good at a competitive level? A lot of people talk about it being not a real fighting game, but I don't think that matters because of how much if offers in terms of technicality that traditional fighting games can't offer. What are some games higher than Melee in this regard?Who's your main and why are other people faggots for maining other characters?
Post tech.
>>335867383
Arena shooters and rts, for more technicality and depth of mechanics. Everything else just requires different skill sets.
Falco. Hes cool without being tryhardy.This excludes marth, but he is just straight up for pretty boy homos
>>335867383
it's the best smash game and probably one of the top 5 Nintendo games ever made.
I main sheik and live in houston
moving up the pr moved here two months ago
taking sets off of top 20 and games off top 10
>Best in the world
>Shits on Reddit constantly
>Pure Aryan genes
Literally our guy
>>335867383
MvC2 and Guilty Gear Accent Core are at least on par with Melee for high skill floor and ceiling.
Never underestimate fastflies, ROMs, reflies and just plain controlling your characters in general with fast and fluid movements.
Peach main here, ranked 88th in New Jersey.
I'm going to be on the MIOM top 100 by 2017. Mark my words.
>>335867383
A Nintendo party game is not a fighting game.
>>335867383
You're asking for a shitflinging party aren't you?
>>335869762
>the characters fight each other as the main gameplay mechanic
>ITS NOT A FIGHTING GAME BECAUSE OF MY ARBITRARY RULESET
fuck off
>>335869412
>not M2K
die
when's the next tourney?
>>335869651
>88th in a free state
>peach main
hahaha just stop
Literally the only people who think SSB doesn't have one of the highest skill ceilings of any fighting game are people who have never played it.
>>335870287
EGLX this weekend. all 5 gods are there
>>335867383
...No.
>>335870082
Don't get baited so easily, mate
>>335870364
Funny you say that, cause the people that say that melee has the highest skill ceiling of any fighting game dont have even the slightest idea of how to play other fighting games, and the ones that do suck at them
I'm top 10 in Montreal on the PR, working my way to the no.5 spot
>>335870853
Nice Assumptions Man. I Would Destroy You in any Fighting Game or Smash Game. Most of Us Understand How Both Kinds of Games Work.
>>335867383
Melee is fucking easy. I beat M2K in pools a month ago at a local tournament and then walked out.
If M2K was such an easy foe to beat then this churlish game isn't worth my time.
>>335870379
>Mango
>Armada
>M2K
>Hbox
>PPMD
>Leffen
did you mean 6 gods?
>>335870853
You'd be surprised how many melee players also play Marvel and/or anime fighters
>>335869651
wanna netplay?
im a scrubby marth
>>335871006
Stop capitalizating every word idiot
>>335868789
both of those statements are wrong.
>>335871071
PPMD is no longer considered a god after getting destroyed by 4 nongods at BOT5G.
>>335871271
god-status doesn't work that way.
>>335871141
Yeah and they suck
>>335871345
yeah i know about the historical significance but PPMD will never be great again. He's effectively just a newer version of Ken. Great at one time, but irrelevant now.
>>335871345
PPMD was never a god to begin with WTF
gods:
>m2k
>armada
>mango
>hungrybox
>leffen
>>335871038
>I beat M2K in pools a month ago at a local tournament and then walked out
Yeah, sure, you casually beat a Melee god yet and then left the tournament, that is entirely believable and everyone will be convinced at Melee's shallowness. Good job winning yet another internet argument, make sure you don't forget to write about it in your diary of internet arguments you've won, which I'm sure is quite extensive.
>>335871006
Ask Me How I Can Tell You're Black
>>335871395
Most people who don't put upwards of 4 hours a day into a singular game and play nothing else "suck" by your autistic skewed stream monster standards.
>>335871512
>responding to obvious bait
you're above this, anon
>>335867383
I main the Cap'in and secondary Fox mostly. Other people are faggots for maining other characters because they don't wanna go fast and swag out all the time.
>>335871519
I don't always type like that. only when i'm trying to prove a point and get under people's skin.
>>335871038
I bet you did. I'm sure a ton of people also saw your match and validated that experience. I'm sure it's also on stream too.
>>335871736
>>335871512
It's on stream samefaggot
>>335871651
>i play captain falcon for the epic STYLE
>>335871826
>I hate fun
>>335870853
>People who say this don't know about Bobby Scar, a not even top 100 melee player who got decent at USF4 and even made his own tech in the game in less than a year.
S M H FAMILY
>>335871596
Then how so mani fg players that are top in a game also are top in multiple u fucking faggot
>>335871448
Yes he is. PPMD is fucking amazing and has earned his god status.
Right now he's still probably top 10 but has kinda fallen out of grace for various reasons.
>>335871779
kekles, I bet. Link it.
>>335871826
Why do you gives a shit? He's unviable anyways so my ebin style doesn't affect your precious little meta anyways.
>>335871779
link it then.
>>335871779
Let's see it then?
>>335871651
Fuck you, Falcon is for fags.
Marth+Fox is the patrician way to play
ESAM 0 to deathed Armada at Smash Summit.
You tell me about Melee's "skill gap".
Jigglypuff is my main and other people are faggots for maining characters who require mindless execution tests over mindgames.
>>335871993
all you shitters who pick falcon and go 0-2 make me happy, button mashing thinking your being slick on falcon won't carry you faggot
>>335872121
>gets 2 0'd in bracket by armada later
samus has a even match up with fox and only takes about 6 hits 2 kill
sorry 3 -0d
Trying to get into melee now that I found my old copy. I keep getting shield when I use Z to grab though. Do most people use L/R+A instead?
>>335872016
>decent
>gets bodied by an actual good player, even with taunts midmatch
https://youtu.be/yGHn5GKsoBM
Theres ton of matches of him getting bodied by worse players too, but of course everyone just mentions that match against that literally who c.viper
>>335872141
>all those pieces of human trash who don't understand the complexity of Jigglypuff play
I mean yeah, there's bair, but I could also land and then jump and bair again. Or not land and bair. Or crossup shield then run away and bair. Fucking casuals.
>>335872397
no z is unique input because it does r a to grab
your controller is prob damaged
>>335872497
>>335872397
Oh and make sure to jump cancel your grabs by pressing y or x when you grab
it makes you grab the same lag as standing grab when in a dash or run
>>335867383
Some anime fighters, maybe.
Melee is amazing because the skill floor is so low in addition to the ceiling being so high.
>B-B-B-BUT
Fuck off Sakurai, the pro Melee players were playing it when they were in middle school. Literal children could play Melee just fine.
>>335872246
>samus has a even match up with fox
>>335872053
>>335872107
>>335872092
OK faggot
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
if you don't think samus has a even match up with fox you have not been playing competitively for more than a year
read smash boards threads and acutally play a good samus with fox
you can't really exploit her as easily as other mid tiers and some high tiers
>>335872141
I bet you jab reset rest all the time you faggot.
enjoy your no risk edgeguards scrub
>>335872024
Fighting games play the same. Smash doesn't.
>>335872862
M2K definitely missed a few L-cancels throughout the match. Definitely unlike him.
>>335872749
there is a reason armada plays peach vs samus
and m2k plays sheik
>>335869412
Can I get some source of him shitting on Reddit?
>2016
>people still get angry over Jiggs
Shiggy
>>335872862
Wow shit I didn't believe you but this is really cool XXD
Good job bro!
>>335872430
But muh "The Scar". I know his tech is useless and it was pretty evident even in Excellent Adventures that Bobby wasn't that good and got lucky.Unfortunately there are no better examples of melee players playing other fighting games. I also didn't really pay attention to scar's """""career"""" in street fighter so I was talking out of my ass.[/spoilers]
>>335872246
THE TOP PLAYER OF A GIVEN GAME SHOULD NOT GET 0 TO DEATHED IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE BY A TOP 81 PLAYER
>>335870082
Dark Souls at Evo when?
>>335873106
She's boring to play and boring to watch
Nobody says hungrybox is bad, he just makes the game boring
Holy shit Peach is fun.
>>335873613
Wrong, Armada makes the game boring by laser camping.
There's a reason mango v hbox is still fun to watch
>>335873812
Ohh I know that gif.
>>335873545
you just don't get it mang. melee is a game where 2 missed techs can mean death and games are 4 stocks, sets 3 games for a reason. it is so easy to die ,especially in a volatile matcup like samus-fox.
>>335872862
You know literally everybody uses 4chan X right?
>>335873943
Ya, not to mention Samus has quite the history of being able to gimp fox better than most others.
Fox doesn't die off the bottome that easy at low percents but those fucking missiles and charge shots can definitely get fox past the blastzone quicker than you can say "honk honk"
>>335871415
Retards like you need to be killed.
Why the fuck can't plup get it together
>>335874441
He's like leffen and m2k combined but none of the good sides
>>335872121
>trashfags thought esam would win in bracket because he took a couple of stocks off him in the crew battle
top kekel
>>335874441
>tfw play with plup all the time
Living in this shithole has its perks at least.
You fags never get to see Plupfox. He'll eventually make the full switch.
>>335875376
seeing him body axe's pika and colbol's marth with his fox was a treat
tfw only 50 people in your country play this game
>>335875616
israel pls
Leffen is fucking up KJH on stream rn
>skill
>>335875768
Smash 4 maxes the bracket at 64
>>335876146
The tech in this game is arthritis inducing.
That alone requires skill.
Wombo Combo remade in Smash 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxQkMoWo4VE
pretty cool.
>>335873091
https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/724453647937994752
https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/724458134396260352
and on his stream he shits on them alot
>>335877076
that is cringe lol
>>335877076
remove sm4sh
go to /vg/ or some shit
>>335878015
>cringe
greetings reddit!
>>335879075
fuck off sm4sh shitter
>>335879075
>>335879169
>smash babies fighting among themselves
adorable
>>335879802
>Fgcuck mad because our party platformer cucked the super bowl of fightan games
>>335879996
FGCucks are hilarious
DUJUAN
>>335880239
ENERGY
>>335880290
MCDANIEL
>>335879996
>>335880090
>projecting this hard
I don't give a shit about fighting games. Your little infighting is just too cute to not notice.
>>335880491
Mahvel vs SF4
>>335880491
Is that why you're in a melee thread shitposting? Because you don't care?
>I-I'm only pretending to be retarded