What will happen... if the NX flops?
well at least I guess it won't flop as hard as my thread.
probably not much. they might pull out of the console market. but i think they'll still be around.
>>335841152
They will make another console, hoping it sells.
>>335841152
It won't. The only reason the Wii U did terribly is because people thought for the longest time that it was just an extension for the Wii.
>>335841152
They'll finally die. This is their last chance
>>335841913
I agree with this. However i think the chances of the eugeNX flopping are very slim to none.
What's the definition of "flops"? If sells modestly, but makes decent-enough profit, is that a success? Or if they take losses but grow their market share significantly, is that a success?
They will just worry about handhelds and mobile shit. No one ive talked too is the least bit hyped about the nx.
It won't, it will be a critical and commercial success just like it predecessors.
>>335842221
Because we know fuckall about it.
>>335841152
Iwata will get mysterously sick than die a few months later just like the last guy.
>>335841152
Nothing if we go by /v/s definition of flop.
>>335841152
Who...knows...what...will...happen...they'll...probably...keep...doing...what...they're..........doing
>>335842221
>handhelds
Handhelds are why the company is in the wind right now. The market for a dedicated handheld gaming device is being cannibalized by smartphones to the point where Nintendo's portable division can't do the heavy lifting for an under performing console division.
>>335841152
>implying anything after the 64 was any sort of success
Only fanboys will be able to tell you whether anything "bad" happens to Nintendo. The rest of the world will shrug and continue on with their lives.
>>335842298
No I mean even mentioning anything nintendo related now gets me a hell no never answer. This started with the wii and pretty much cemented this fact with the wiiu. Ill probably pick one up when its cheap.
>>335842478
GameCube was a God-tier console, and the Wii sold more than 360 or PS3. So fuck you.
>>335841841
I don't think they can afford that after 2 consecutive massive failures.
>>335841152
At this point, I'd prefer Nintendo to go software-only like Sega, maybe then they'd actually put some fucking games out.
>>335842368
Might wanna rethink that one, buddy.
It's so late in the game to introduce a new console.
>>335842435
Which is why I believe they are going the ngage route.
Hear me out, the ngage was wayy ahead of its time. Things they wanted to do with the thing were not possible, now phones are cutting edge.
The heart of Nintendo died with Iwata. Now they're on fucking life support. It's sad.
>>335842648
Software only? Then what consoles would I get to play my Pokemans on?!?!
Nintendo will start making mobile games
>>335843093
>Then what consoles would I get to play my Pokemans on?!?!
Your mobile phone.
>>335842914
>Which is why I believe they are going the ngage route.
Someone already beat them to it. I suppose Nintendo would have better brand power available to them, though.
>>335842610
>muh mario!
Your gimmick machine pandered to the lowest common denominators. Children. No serious gamer relies on a Nintendo for entertainment. At this point, it's an "also ran" and a company for nostalgia fags. And if GameCube was so great, why tear down everything that made it great in favor of the wii???
>>335842478
>DS, Wii, 3DS
>not huge successes
I mean they killed Nintendo, but they brought in a ton of dough
>tfw mobile games are the future of gaming
It's not fair
Sega: Saved you a seat
>>335841152
People will cry nintendo is doomed even though they wont be?
>>335842643
>2 consecutive massive failure
Wii was a massive financial hit and Wii U eventually turned a profit. What other "failure" are you talking about?
>>335841152
The NXX (nintendo double X) will pick up the slack.
>>335841913
They also have to stop taking stupid decisions.
>>335842808
Late in the game? They're right on time to start gen 9. By the time NX comes out it'll have been nearly 5 years since the release of Wii U. Most console generations only run 5 years. Gen 7 was an anomaly.
>>335843136
That sounds like the worst hell imaginable. I can barely even emulate old games it feels so wrong.
>>335843136
>>335841152
Nintendo will continue to trundle along with Amiibo/Amiibo2.0: Now You Have To Re-buy Your Collection Edition.
Nintendo won't dieeven if they deserve to
>>335841152
I don't care what happens.
I just want them to stop being stupid.
Nintendo will do a Konami.
>>335843365
nah I meant if the NX fails that will be 2 massive failures.
>>335842808
I know right.
>>335842430
Underrated post
>>335843271
>Console fags upset that an even lesser form of video game entertainment is becoming the bigger medium/outlet for games.
Now you know how we feel.
>>335843564
will never happen with miyamoto around. as cruel as it is to say Iwata dying was the best thing that could have happened to Nintendo, Miyamoto needs to go next
>Nintendo leave hardware market
>Focus entirely on software
>Pull a Sega, Nintendo games come out on multiple consoles
>Developers able to create new games without having to force gimmicks like the gamepad
>Don't have to rush out games for their consoles any more, can spend more time developing them
>A new glorious era of Nintendo with a focus on the games instead of the shitty hardware.
Give me one good reason as to why Nintendo should even bother staying in the console market.
I'll tell you exactly what will happen: 4-5 years after it's release Nintendo will release a new console with some silly gimmick that is graphically underpowered for its generation. Nintendo and the new console will fail to attract third-party developers.
>>335841152
they'll make drastic changes, whilst somehow staying the same and a lot of fans will be turned away from them
I'm really hoping that this E3 has some surprises for the NX at least, because I'm slightly worried
I mean not on the show floor =/= not presented at all right?
>>335843365
We are assuming the NX will be number 2
>>335841152
Nintendo will get their shit together if they even have enough money. Let's face it, Nintendo pretty much put the WiiU solely out of assumed fan loyalty and they kept their bullshit going because their fan loyalty. If they do the same for the NX, Nintendo will become a suicide pact.
>>335843687
>Iwata dying was the best thing that could have happened to Nintendo
I didn't think Iwata was that great of a president while he was alive, but Nintendo has gone so downhill since he died.
>mfw I bought a Wii U when it first launched
>mfw I bought thirty Wii U gams
>>335843717
Their company is huge and thousands of jobs would be lost if they were to become 3rd party only.
>>335844014
So you own the entire Wii U library?
>>335843687
The fuck, man?
>>335843361
Pretty much.
>>335844049
Well tough luck huh?
but it won't flop
they'll put a generic controller, call of duty, ebin grapheex and casuals will sell their souls to buy it
embrace the industry taken over by cod/fifa
>>335841152
They going full mobile
>>335844097
It's starting to seem like it, kek.
>>335843717
>Nintendo
>going third party.
>With cash makers like Mario and Pokemon
Yeah, if you Sony and Microsoft people want to play Nintendo games, emulate them or buy the old consoles. You can get them for like, 20 bucks. Nintendo shunned 3rd party support, do you think other companies will be kind enough to Nintendo?
I honestly believe that if the NX does not include "Wii" or "Wii U" anywhere in its name, that alone will lead to superior sales right there. Probably enough to stay relevant, all things considered.
Throw in an even remotely acceptable launch and they should be good to go
>>335844049
Considering the absolute blunder of the Wii U in multiple regards (underpowered, forced gamepad shit, lack of games, the absolute fuck up of marketing the damn thing), it's probably about time heads rolled.
The NX is going to be like the N-Gage, but better.
>>335844285
I think the NX will do better than the Wii U, sure. However, it has to have the power of the PS4/Xbone OR be a hybrid. I just don't see it doing well in this climate regardless, ESPECIALLY due to how poorly the Wii U has done.
>>335843284
my sides
>>335844353
>it's probably about time heads rolled.
If Yamauchi was still alive and in charge that is literally what would be happening.
Wii U was just a bad console. It DESERVED to flop.
It has, like, eight good games and the GamePad sucks.
I genuinely believe that quality products thrive in this industry.
Oh yeah, is anybody else fucking pissed at how they keep moving Zelda back?
Nintendo is so fucking stupid that they can't keep the best ip of all time from going into production hell akin to Duke Nukem.
>>335844271
i think i read somewhere it has a total of 140 something games right now, but more than 90% of those of multiplats and shovelware holy shit pathetic
>>335844931
I'd probably be pissed if I had a Wii U. Don't care
>>335844931
They moved it back because they want to release it on both Wii U and NX, presumably at the same time.
Which surprises no one, seeing as how anyone with a brain cell said they'd do exactly that when NX rumours first surfaced.
>people thinking Nintendo is gonna die
They have the most popular fighting game series in the world.
They have the most popular platformer series.
They have the most popular action adventure series.
They have the most popular videogame characters of all time.
They won't die as long as they have Smash Bros.
>>335843987
>>335844119
Iwata and Miyamoto are the reason Nintendo is in such a shit state
>innovation for the sake of innovation even if it's to the overall detriment of the game (Star Fox Zero, Skyward Sword)
>continuing to chase the kiddie and casual gamer market even though they don't care anymore and would rather just play call of duty
>Having a wealth of IPs but ignoring almost all of them besides Mario and Zelda and occasionally forcing pet projects that no one wants (Pikmin 3)
>When a project fails they refuse to acknowledge mistakes in that individual game and just blame the consumer for not getting it and then sink the franchise entirely (Metroid)
Seriously, Iwata was a total fucking meme, I never understood why people liked the guy. He was an upjumped programmer who got promoted not because of his business skill but because he had put the most amount of time in. Jap businesses don't promote on merit. I was glad to see him go, though I would have rather he just quit rather than dropped dead.
>>335841152
>What will happen... if the NX flops?
Same thing as every other time Nintendo makes a console. It is not like a Nintendo console flopping is anything new at this point.
>>335842643
Wii U miraculously turned a profit for them. It has underwhelming overall sales but it's not a "massive failure" at least from a purely financial standpoint.
>>335843232
>serious gamer
>>335843987
All the shit things that have happened since Iwata's death are a result of the policies he had in place before he kicked the bucket. You won't see the real effects of Kimishima's presidency until the NX actually launches.
>>335844931
I feel bad for the poor bastards that bought a Wii U for it.
>>335844931
People will have a reason to be fucking pissed if that Zelda fails to deliver. Until then, I'm just going to assume the delay helps the game in the long run
>>335845392
>image.jpg
Get out
>>335845640
Nope, gonna keep on posting from my phone while sitting at my PC specifically to rustle faggots like you, enjoy
>>335845286
I guess. But 12.8 million over almost 4 years is beyond what call "underwhelming".
Kids thesedays just play phone/tablet games.
http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/story/305700/the-top-tablets-for-your-kids
>>335842430
lmao
>want to play Mario kart with friend who has wifi u
>plug it in
>you got a shitty wii mote or the tablet
>have to pause to switch controls on the race for like 5 minutes
>Feels like I can't go around a fucking corner without hitting a wall
>we turn it off and do other shit
What the hell were they thinking?
Oh my god, Mario Kart Wii wasn't as bad as this shit. I'm sure it's good singleplayer or wifi but what the fug.
>>335841913
They wont die. They might stop making console hardware, and focus entirely on handheld titles, and multiplatform releases which would be a good thing.
>>335845286
it did okay financially, but they still have their brand image to worry about. several failing consoles isn't exactly good for anyone no matter how much money they make
as long as they're not retarded with the NX i think it'll do good enough to let them bounce back
>>335841152
hopefully they'll start making their IPs available on the pc and the console makers who know how to make a profit
>>335846346
Well I didn't say it was good per se, just that "massive failure" was overstating things a bit. Their biggest problem at the moment is definitely mindshare.
>>335841152
Life continues. Drones probably hang thenselves or Nintendo dies for good as a "videogame" company. Either way we win.
>>335841913
>Nintendo
>dying
>ever
You realize that unlike sony and microsoft all they do is toys and videogames right? Do you know how fucking big they are despite doing ONLY that?
http://www.gamesradar.com/nintendo-doomed-not-likely-just-take-look-how-much-money-its-got-bank/
>Nintendo Gamer magazine: "Buried in reams of financial data is the revelation that Nintendo have 812.8 billion Yen (£6.7/$10.5 billion) in the bank - enough for it to take a 20 billion Yen loss (£163/$257 million) every year until 2052. Then there's almost 469 billion Yen (£3.8/$6.0 billion) held in premises, equipment and investments. When that runs out - we're in the year 2075 by this point - they've got some of the most valuable intellectual property in gaming to sell off before the company goes out of business."
>>335841882
>Implying Nintendo won't give the NX a stupid game
These are the same people who called the New 3DS the New 3DS.
Nintendo should shift their focus to making handhelds only and become a third party developer/publisher.
>inb4 mobile
They still have Pokemon and you know people will keep buying handhelds to play that shit.
I hope the NX fails. Nintendo is gonna have to learn that if they fuck something up, like the Wii U, the solution isn't to abandon it and instantly start working on something else. Whatever they're thinking about, whatever effort they've been putting towards the NX, should have gone into the Wii U instead.
>>335846657
it's a massive failure compared to the Wii.
>>335847010
>*name
>>335844931
Zelda U is going to suck. The quality of Aonuma zelda games is inversely proportional to the time they spend in development, because then Aonuma has more time to fuck them up with.
>>335847087
Almost anything would've been a massive failure compared to the Wii.
>>335846812
I think what people are talking about are not Nintendo's bank account, but rather the fact that if they lose the faith of their customers, then it'll be incredibly hard to undo that. And at that point, I guess you could say that Nintendo is "done" in a way
>>335844727
>eight good games
More exclusives than any other console this generation
>>335847050
>abandon it instantly
>5 year life cycle
ebin meme
>>335847087
>>335847253
The problem isnt that it failed compared to the Wii. It failed compared both to the competition and to the fucking gamecube.
>>335847253
Still, the Wii U sold half as much as the Gamecube, it's previous worst-selling console.
>>335841152
Flop?
Let me tell you a history
>Nintendo investors conference
>Investors in their respective chairs, waiting for the President of Nintendo to show up, when suddenly...
KICKONTHEMAINDOOR.jpg
>Kimishima with only his underwear, flip-flops and tie appears
>INVESTERS! WE VIDEO GAMES NOW!
>25 Japanese blonde naked chicks come in the room serving sake for the investors
>A loud music starts playing while, from the ground of the center of the room, comes a stage with Skrillex playing loud wubs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeNSzJ2-Jw
>Lights go out
>The windows open wide and outside Nintendo headquarters there's a stadium holding a big screen showcasing Nintendo's new console:
NINTENDO_WUB.webm
>Capable of transmitting 8k gameplay in 240fps per seconds
>Ultra-wide-tru-condensed-stereo-digital 360º surround sound at 90fps per MHz
>Support 12 players simultaneously at 180fps per second
>Support every controller since NES
>Backwards compatible since NES
>Backwards compatible with PS4 and Xbone, too, at 60fpssince they couldn't do it
>Investors now are drinking all the sake they can to hold the hype
But this is not all...
>>335846812
That has nothing to do with them being successful as a game company though, it doesn't matter how much money a company has in the bank continuing down a failing path would be moronic, if the NX fails they'll be seriously considering different pathways to make money even if they can sustain more failures they have to still find a way to be profitable not just continue bleeding money because they can.
>>335847752
>>335847467
But it still eventually made them a profit. Calling it a massive failure is stupid. But at this point it's an argument of semantics like everything on /v/ always ends up being and that's even more stupid.
The Wii U performed at a level suitable to creating another console. I'd argue that if the NX performed the same, it'd also be suitable for Nintendo to create another console. The NX could sell zero (0) units, and Nintendo would, in all likelihood, still make another console.
>>335847467
>>335847752
I think people are conflating me saying that it wasn't an abysmal failure with me saying that it was good, which isn't what I was saying at all.
>>335847781
HOLY FUCKING SHIT.
>>335847323
>lose faith in their customers
is this what its like to be in a defense force?
>>335841152
>What will happen if the NX flops?
Nintendo turns all their focus to handhelds and smartphones. When they realize that the smartphone market is too niche, they'll probably turn their attention to PC, just like every other console company, and start developing games specifically for PC.
I'd say odds are, they'll probably create their own Steam-like store/UI and have a whole team dedicated to porting over Wii/Wii U/NX first party exclusives to PC. It's almost like they've been preparing for it for a long time now.
I'd imagine their handheld market will still be pretty firm by that point, but who the hell knows?
>>335848228
Read it again champ
>>335848228
>customers lose faith in a product/company
>they don't buy it anymore
is this what its like to shitpost?
NINTENDO GO THIRD PARTY
MAKE GAME ON PS5
SONY WIN
NINTENDO DOOM
>>335848361
>I'd say odds are, they'll probably create their own Steam-like store/UI
Shit, I actually wouldn't mind something like. If they do go third party, I'd say that sounds like the best case scenario.
>>335848361
>When they realize that the smartphone market is too niche
The smartphone market is the opposite of niche even console gaming is more niche than mobile.
>they'll probably turn their attention to PC
Highly doubt it Japanese hate PC gaming.
>>335841152
>if
lel
>>335841152
NX flop because use another gimmick that nobody likes
>>335847781
>can't maintain 240fps in 12 player local multiplayer
Are they even fucking trying
>>335848678
Actually, the games are constantly 240fps. The players that are kept in 180fps per seconds while playing.
Is there any reason whatsoever to own ANY Nintendo hardware in this day and age outside of 3DS hacking/homebrew?
>>335841913
They won't die, per se, just won't be making hardware and their properties will be in severe shape.
>>335849034
Exclusives
I'm not a poorfag that just plays on one platform
It'll flop because Nintendo's primary demographic, children, just play games on mobile devices and watch Let's Plays of everything else on Youtube.
>>335841913
Nintendo has tons of money banked and countless IPs with huge brand recognition. If you seriously think they'll "die", you're an idiot. At worst they'll exit the console market for the indefinite future.
>>335841152
Nintendo will make a new handheld that prints money and allows them to create more shitty consoles, like always.
They become a toy company for a couple years before surprising everyone in about 6-7 years down the line when they show up at E3 and announce the Wii 2 or some shit.
>>335849372
They might die as a videogame company and move to something retarded like toys or mobile market. I can happen, and looking how the things are going, it's very likely now they are experimenting with Amiibos and theme parks.
>>335847050
They should have dropped the Wii U back in 2014. It barely got any games after that year anyway. At least I won't have to buy a Wii U to play Zelda now.
Can you imagine the shitstorm there would have been if Sony abandoned the PS4 in 2009? No one would have looked forward to the PS4 at all.
>>335843232
>serious gamer
I think the NX will flop, but it won't be hard enough to bankrupt Nintendo.
No matter what you do, there is no way you can fuck up as badly as Virtual Boy. OrAnthony Burch.
>>335841828
>>335841152
Nintendo will most definitely still be around if they left the console market. Honestly, it might be good for them to if NX flops. They've got billions in revenue, but if NX flops, that indicates Nintendo has lost touch with the console market. Handhelds though they destroy the market.
Nintendo needs to focus more on handhelds.
Give us a new handheld, without the DS name attached to it. And make it a powerful piece of hardware.
>>335841152
They strictly turn to mobile.
>>335842368
Iwata is dead
It won't flop. In the United States alone since 1994 the increase of autistic people has increased by 995%. Nintendo will never die and we will be in a constant purgatory of Nintendo games that are almost exactly identical besides a few small things.
>>335846346
not even ridley made it in this image
>>335847781
I hope that was seaweed sake
it will be a catastrophic failure leading to a mario vs sonic mixed martial arts "loser leaves gaming forever" match at e3 2017. heard it here first
>>335841152
If? More like when.
>>335854641
those autists have phones too. I don't think you realize how pervasive and cancerous mobile gaming has become. See minecraft, for example
>>335841152
They'll move onto making the next shitty console.
Their current retard fanbase though will eat it up, so to the demographic that they're currently catering to, they should be fine.
>>335846812
>article from 4 years ago
ebin
>>335841152
Gaming dies.
Electronic Entertainement wins.
>>335854641
i keep telling my friends how fucking awful episode 7 is and they just laugh and say i need to get over it. fuck that it was a pile of sjw shit still i'll tell them to get those books thanks anon
>>335842430
I... like... this... new... meme...
