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Why does /v/ hate MOBAs so much?
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Why does /v/ hate MOBAs so much?
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>>335825609
Because they include used up druggie teens as playable characters
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>>335825609
stop.
letting alternative right news indoctrinated people who spend too much time writing replies on 4chan be your source for news is how to be led by some of the dumbest fucking people who communicate regularly.
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/v/ hates anything they aren't good at, which happens to be video games

see:

>arena shooters
>dark souls
>super mario sunshine
>any moba
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Terrible unfriendly playerbase.
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>>335825609
Because they are the embodiment of the Twitch, Casual fucks that can't into real vidya.

People who play these games can't even do a charge motion in a fighting game. They're type of fags that get mad because they can't beat Ludex.

Filthy fucking casuals the lot of them
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>>335825609
1) killed rts
2) low skill ceiling
3) sometimes rng
4) more emphasis on teamwork and coordination over individual skill
5)boring/monotone if you dont get reeled in by unlocking/drop systems
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>>335826063
>>>/tumblr/
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>>335825609
played moba
had fun
met the community
never been so disrespected in my entire life
uninstalled the game

i dont get it everybody´s real nice IRL but somehow typing thoughts to PC gives you privilege to go full savage? all being offensive over games really says to me is LoL gamers are underaged and incredibly insecure. also the game seems to be their channel to let out steam after they get bullied in school and open the game to forget about >tfw no gf
>here´s silk, silk is smooth. silk isnt edgy at all.
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Bitter experience. Far too much time wasted, and for absolutely nothing gained.

RIP URF for like 6 months
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>>335825609
It requires teamwork
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>>335825609
is jinx a fun character to play?
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>>335825609
Because 2D momentum-based platformers are the real games, not some shitty walking simulator with lesbian drug addicts.
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>>335825890
Is this a botpost?
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>>335826264
>played dota for 7 years now
>4000 hours in steam
>3k mmr
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>>335826252
mobas have a playbase of people from countries with 100% real dirt roads. where going to buy electronic goods is a 5 hour drive away.

take of that as you will.
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>>335826264
>Bitter experience. Far too much time wasted, and for absolutely nothing gained.
this pretty much i could have spent the same hundreds of hours getting gud at drawing not for me to waste money on friends who hate me anyways
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I mean, league is fun and all that. And I wish I was better at dota because I think it's pretty fuckin sweet. I like the artstyle and character designs, but it's more complex compared to league.
Guess i just gotta have a buddy teach me.
But anyhow, people hate it mainly because the playerbase. You'll get matched up with these damn 14 year olds that'll tick you off because they think they'll go in and automatically be mlg. Then if they mess up they just start complaining and ruing everything.

>>335826160
the whole twitch thing is part of the reason it's garbo. Kids these days are all hopped up on twitch and league. So of course you'll get matched up with dickfucks who don't know how to play very well and/or cooperate with teams.
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>>335826063
sauce mate
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>>335825890
Stop cuckposting.
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>>335825609
because instead of playing a dumbed down casual RTS abomination to make myself feel good, I just accept that I suck at RTS games.
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>>335826501
>im 100% indoctrinated from using this website
ftfy
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>>335826432
You type like a third-worlder. Yurop? Mjölk?
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>>335825609
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>>335826063
Aww what's the matter did one of them make you cry?
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>>335826583
Are you a Bernie Sanders voter?
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mobas are just "click to attack enemy"

id rather play a FPS
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They are on PC, they require skill, teamwork and constant learning. So naturally the console-playing casual autists on /v/ cannot handle any of this.
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>massively team oriented to the point you need a full 5 (or whatever) man team of friends to have fun
>even one shit player can torpedo the whole game
>matches are decided at the 15 minute mark but last 30+ minutes
>unless someone massively fucks up, but everyone realizes that and plays incredibly safe when they're ahead, hence the long games
>communities are absolute cancer, but at least not as bad as CS:GO faggots
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>>335826063

That only applies to dota, hots and lol are a lot more friendly.
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>>335825609
Who cares, post more Jinx
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>>335826729
teamwork is something that you can't change or improve on by yourself
also sometimes even if your whole team is your IRL friends they will literally end friendships cause of petty shit like losing a close game
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>>335826264

>dropped LoL at around 1000 hours after I realized I could have learned a language, become proficient at an instrument, gotten a job, or any number of things that would have tangibly improved myself as a person
>three years on and I still haven't done any of those things (except for a couple of jobs), though now I have more free time to shitpost on 4chan

Why can't I into positive behavior?
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why do so many girls like MOBAs?
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>>335826654
there goes that 4chan indoctrination showing again.
how much do you read about "politics" now because of this website?
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>>335825609
Cancerous and I bet more than a few of us have gone through the situation of having friends who played vidya to having friends who will never talk or play anything but MOBA of choice, and who clearly never ever enjoy it when they play.
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>>335826623
this is surprisingly accurate
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>>335826729
>require skill
But memorizing is not a skill and neither is awareness
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>>335826160
>still playing dead games

It's 2016 bro. You need to learn to let go.
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>>335826856

>LoL
>friendly

Holy shit, I've never played Dota, but if League is friendly in comparison, they must have you breaking down in tears on a regular basis.
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>>335826249
>>335826651

See this is exactly what I am talking about.
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>>335826602
you type like you post jeje ironically.
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>>335826917
>teamwork is something that you can't change or improve on by yourself

Spotted the autismal faggot.
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>>335826997
Easy to play and you can start being a healslut to learn the game
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>>335826918

Playing an instrument is not a valuable skill. If you aren't playing it for your profession and earning money for it, the skill is equally useless as proficiency at a video game.
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>>335827060
>fighting games
>dead
pick one
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>>335826729
>they require skill and constant learning
>not being able to work well with a bunch of uncooperative idiots is somehow the individual's fault
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>>335827112
You dislike communities where your actions are scrutinized, because you lack self confidence and skill

this is entirely your fault
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>>335825609
because league is for casual babies
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League of Legends suck ass, there is no depth in that game. Dota is way better.
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>>335825609
Single unit RTS games are bad because they are casual shit. And most popular of them all - LoL - is also "freemium" shit.
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>>335827207
>playing it for your profession and earning money for it
oh sweet child.
i see too many years for you with thoughts of suicide.
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>>335826997
>why do so many girls like MOBAs?

Girls are only a fraction of the MOBA community.

It's just that those communities are fucking massive, they make CoD look like obscure indie shit in comparison.
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Too much of a time investment to make it enjoyable.

Seems like the people that play mobas only play mobas, and I don't think I could just stick to one game, I would lose interest.
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>>335827020
Pretty much. It's an easily accessible competitive game which, in my mind, sets up an extremely volatile situation that can make a raging cunt out of anyone.

At least the genre has resulted in porn. Lots and lots of porn.
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because normalfags
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>>335827238
>tell drow ranger to back up from pushing their tier 2 tower, all of the enemy heroes are missing
>drow doesn't listen
>drow feeds her monster kill streak and 1100 gold to the enemy
>this is entirely my fault
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>>335827207

Being able to jam with friends and write some songs I could sing to myself would have made me happier than being a Gold league shitter. Never mind what your personal politics about value are.
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>>335827207
More likely to get you pussy than vidya though.
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Too slow. Laning phase makes me want to fall asleep everytime.
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>>335827107

At least a few years ago when I played DOTA2 was insanely awful, had people constantly swearing at each other in multiple languages.
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>>335827164
>I'm going to call this guy a faggot even though I know that there are some players who simply won't cooperate and may deliberately throw the game.
You aren't this stupid are you?
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>>335825609
I'm too good at them and find them boring.
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>>335825609
because generals are super cancerous
and mobas single handled made /vg/
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>>335826917
>they will literally end friendships cause of petty shit like losing a close game
Yes, if they have the mental age of 6 years olds then that's not so surprising.
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>>335826205
Wrong, there is not RNG, git good I can get to diamond in two weeks on a fresh acc or less.
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>>335827298

If what you mean is that the skill's value comes from the entertainment you gain from it, then your statement makes sense, but it'll also equally apply to vidya.
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>>335827253

>be new to genre
>want to try it out
>read some basic guides
>play against bots only
>still get a barrage of insults

No thanks.
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Slow and boring. I'd rather play a fun game than something the people play to win just to raise their e-peen.
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>>335825609
Honestly, they're just really boring and not worth the effort of dealing with the caustic playerbase. The porn's good though.
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>>335827325
>girls always favor non-competitive goofy games
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>>335827238
>not being able to work well

That means you are the problem.

Not to say that everyone is nice and dandy but if you always have problems working with people, regardless of who they are, then you are the fucking problem, you need to co-operate and improve the morale of your team.

Or just hard-carry, that's viable too.
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>>335827019
>bitching about 4chan
Take it to someplace like reddit.
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>>335827473
Yeah that's what I get for letting my friend invite his friend who I have never met into the queue
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>>335827468
this
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>>335827494
im saying good luck finding a profession where you dont end up thinking about killing yourself
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> use the name Jinx ever since Super Mario RPG to this day
> WOW DID YOU NAME URSELF AFTER JINX THE GIRL FROM LOL HAHA WHAT A FAG XD

fuck you lolbabbies

fuck you so hard
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>>335827509
>get a barrage of insults from bots

literally untrue. Why must you spout falsehoods?

>new to game, tries it out, does research

you should be fine then


still all your fault
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>>335827549
>men tend to be more competitive
>women tend to be more social

What a clever observation.
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>>335825609
Because its like playing a fighting game with no shoulder buttons. You're just dicking around with one unit. A lot of people "aren't good", at mobas because it requires a Diablo skillset, not an RTS skillset.
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>You're literally forced to keep playing an hour long game even when you're not having fun and want to quit after 15 minutes, or you risk getting banned

Lmfao are there any bigger cucks than MOBA players? You've literally spent hours upon hours of your life just waiting for the match to end.
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>>335827325

>last on the list that isn't completely casual is Gran Turismo

Is 25% the official critical mass for girl ratios?
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>>335827570
not 8ch? not voat? not project avalon?
do you only use 4chan, youtube, and duck duck go?
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>>335827719

Pretty much this. The genre is fucking retarded and anti-fun. Its esports cancer concentrated.
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>>335827672
Bot games have players on one side and bots on the other in most assfaggots, sonny jim.
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>>335827453

Even the best player cannot carry all the time. But if you cannot carry most of the time then you need to get better at the game.
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>>335827207
Except it's not close to be true.

If you're working at big international corporation then ask your HR department about hobby/other skill gradation. Playing music is as valuable as playing sports because it takes a lot of effort one has to put in it.
Meanwhile vidya counts as a "passive" hobby, like collecting things.
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>>335827562
I don't remember saying i always have problems working well with people under any and all circumstances, maybe it's because i never said that, perhaps you should read my post again. People can't be uncooperative unless you're trying to cooperate with them you fucking idiot.
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>>335827207
But chicks dig playing instruments.

I have music on my resume in case the hospital needs people to cheer up little kids. I'll go there on weekends if im not too busy.

Having a societally acceptable hobby like guitar or drawing/painting with your other extracurriculars makes you more approachable.

If you tell your boss/professor you play league every day, they'll think you have 0 self control, but if you practice oboe, they'll think you're very dedicated.
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>>335827689
>playing fighting games with a controller

Spotted the casual.
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>>335825972
Add fighting games
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>>335827359
This. Everyone here likes to beat around the bush but mobas (specifically league) draw normalfags like flys to shit and /v/ can't handle the normies being mean to them.
And ofcourse /v/ are contrarians also obviously. So obviously league being massively popular doesn't help. This is where dota elitist come from. It's the same thing as fallout 3/4 and people praising older fallout games because muh depth
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>>335827826
cause support mains can totally carry right?
my lulu ult isn't going to save my adc from a 21/0 olaf
either way it doesn't matter anymore i stopped playing 3 years back
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>>335826205
1. No, RTS is a very different genre, they have different playerbases. RTS died because the genre is terrible for singleplayer experiences and way too dry and micro-intensive for competetive success on the same level as dota/lol/cs.

2. LoL possibly, dota absolutely not. The fact that MMR boosters exist is alone enough to prove you wrong.

3. At least almost all RNG in dota is now replaced with pseudo-RNG.

4. How is that even a negative, it's just different from solo games. A weak link will make a team fail instantly (not talking about low pub games here).

5. Real physical sports like football have a hundreth of the depth and amount of variables yet people shit themselves over it. Almost all games, physical or not, require some getting used to before you enjoy them. I bet you're some 2k shitstain who dropped the game before you encountered anyone even remotely competent at it. Like kicking around a ball a couple of times and then calling football terrible.
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I just hate the community.

I should be able to play Orianna as a support just like she's labeled without all those tourneyfags going crazy and saying she's meant for mid and that I've fucked the whole team over.
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>>335827680
it's just annoying how people complain that video games don't cater to women, and there's some magic shit that's going to happen where the amount of 'gamers' is going to double suddenly. It's bullshit.

Testosterone naturally makes men enjoy aggressive behavior and competition. So a game made for men isn't going to appeal to women, even if you put a fucking female character in it.
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>>335827453
But is that guy doing that because he can't learn teamwork of because he doesn't care?
Think about it, no one needs to learn fucking teamwork, the things you need to do are few and simple.
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>>335827928
>I don't remember saying i always have problems working well with people

That's what you said in your previous post. You could at least try to backpedal rather than outright denial.
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>>335827383
>implying that's the sole reason you lost the game
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>>335825972

But /v/ loves Dark Souls, specifically because you can feel like you're 'good' at a 'challenging' game despite having no talent at actual competitive games.
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>>335827689
>its like playing a fighting game
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Jinx makes my cock so hard
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>>335828036
>hurr there's no difference between FO2 and FO3
this is pretty much the most retarded thing I've seen
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>>335827719
You will never be banned for leaving you autist.
And wanting to leave because you're losing is the sure mark of autistic crybabies.
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>>335828038
>he cannot carry as support
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>>335827535
this
best porn
post some
dota2 porn is better cause girl variety
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>>335826623
>a you're a baby and I'm not.jpg that isn't exaggerating anything for once
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>>335828249
I never said that


I will say fallout 3 is more fun though
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>>335828120
Perhaps you could show me where i use the word 'always' to describe how often i find difficulty working with other people. Or any other word that denotes that it's all the time or even often, I'll wait while you try to read it again.
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>>335828063

Good supports usually need more utility than Orianna.
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I've always been curious about LoL and DOTA but I feel like my reaction times aren't up to snuff. Also I want to be able to go at my own pace at first and learn how things are without having some mouthbreathing BR and his drunk Ruskie buddy screaming at me in languages I don't know.
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>>335828101
>So a game made for men isn't going to appeal to women, even if you put a fucking female character in it.

League gets 67 million players per month. 10% of that is 6 million. It would be retarded to ignore all those women.
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>>335828237
not him but I play competitive fighting games and LoL not as competitively on the side. It really is like playing a fighting game, but his analogy goes full retard after that.
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>>335828375
Dota 2 porn is better because it has Lina and TA.
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>>335828375
I'm not sure I get what you mean by "girl variety" considering League has a lot more female champs.
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>>335828407

You don't need to get upset bro, you can always improve your teamwork skills, it's never too late.
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>>335825609
The genre just doesn't do it for me. Like realistic racing sims, or the yearly sports titles.
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>>335828231

Dark Souls is easy as fuck compared with any decent hack and slash game.
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>>335828039
It's monotonous. I have a couple thousand hours in DotA, and like 1000 in dota2 (i got burned out). i have around 50 matches in league with my friends while i was playing dota2. i find it duller since when you start, you're stuck using the free rotation/ whatever heroes you have unlocked and playing in a stack, I end up playing the same role over and over
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>>335826063
Sauce.
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>>335828736
>TA over drow and windranger
Shit taste confirmed.
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>>335827325

>1/10 LoL players are girls

In other words, 1/2 Support players are girls.
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>>335827438
i played a dota match where someone d/c'd.
the all chat said "guys wanna pause"
"yeah sure"
and we paused the game for a good 3-5 minutes for the guy to reconnect

>>335826856
this was obviously bait
which i have taken, yes
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>>335828749
which are all the same
dota2 has ghost lady, fish lady, snake lady, fire lady, ice lady, doe lady,etc..
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>>335825609
>rip off great character designs
>make them worse in every possible way
sad
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>low level match
>people say to target a champ by it's name instead of the visible player name

It's just not friendly to new players at all.
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>>335828668

Many champions can be played without having good reaction times. A big part of the game involves strategic decisions and knowledge.
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>>335828756
>get called out for being retarded
>lol u mad bro
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>>335828882
gave me a chuckle
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>>335828902
I like Lina and Drow the most but Windranger has BBC shit out the ass, and most of Drow's are eh.

TA got dat dick doe.
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>>335828882

/v/ likes DMC too.
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>>335825609
Because the tank meta is fucking annoying and they have to nerf Soraka.
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>>335828937
>which are all the same
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>>335826623

I'm Timmy :(
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>>335828939
I hope you're not implying Jinx is based off Cammy, and not Tank Girl.
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>>335829037
>/v/ likes DMC too.

Yeah the half of /v/ that isn't full of casual faggots pretending to be hardcore.
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>>335828668

Just like every other game where reactions are important, the skillset required is 90% anticipating/reading and 10% raw reflex.
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>>335828917

That's at least one girl per game.
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>>335828937
And league has ghost lady (Kalista), fish lady (Nami), snake lady (Cassiopeia), fire lady (Shyvana and/or Annie), ice lady (Ashe, Sejuani and Lissandra), doe lady kinda (Quinn).

Add to that catgirl lady (Nidalee), blue fetishist lady (Evelynn), improvised threesomes lady (LeBlanc), foxy lady (Ahri), midget ladies (yordles), flat lady (Jinx), amazon lady (Illaoi), wierd ass draenei/goat mix lady (Soraka), elf lady (Janna)...

Yeah, no. I don't know how you got to the conclusion that Dota has more variety in girls when it's blatantly untrue.
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>>335829190

Well, it's nice you think that. High self-esteem is a great thing to have, even if it's not necessarily warranted.
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>>335828736
But LoL has better R63
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>>335829308
>doe lady kinda (Quinn).
Nigga fuck off. Quinn is a woman with a bird.
She's not fucking part bird.

Use their new furry lady for doe lady.
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>>335829308
>quinn
>doe lady
hwat
it doesnt matter
lol waifus are shit
youre waifu a shit
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>>335829308

Shyvana is Dragon Lady and Annie is Fire Girl, she is also literally perfect.
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>Tries to be addictive by monotonous gameplay
>extremely toxic fanbase, which actually matters for a game based around cooperation
>obnoxious unlock system
All this I could forgive if it weren't for
>most of these games are getting constantly reworked and patched, however many of these patches can often be more of an imbalancing than a balance
>games can take from 30 minutes to an hour, and you can be greatly punished for leaving a game. This forces you to commit to this game that you may or may not wish to continue until your team surrenders or someone wins the game.
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>>335829373
Why ruin the actual cool characters with half assed R63.
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>>335829373
Wrong desu.
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>>335829452
>>335829447
Well Valor is really more of a character than her.

Honestly we just try not to talk about Quinn too much. But still it baffles my mind that you would think Dota has more variety in girls.
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>>335829308
Shyvana x Dragon Knight porn when?
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>>335829350

Go ahead and claim that Dark Souls requires more skill than DMC. Then you can read back that post and realize how retarded you would sound.
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>>335825609
Fuck Twitch and E-Sports, that's why
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>>335826623
Is it inconceivable that I just don't find them fun?
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>>335829567
You sure about that?
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>>335826419
>played dota for 3 years now
>1800 hours in steam
>2k mmr
it's fun anyways so I don't care if I have "low" mmr
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They're not even remotely fun.
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>>335829603
Nigga fuck you, Quinn is my lady. Like old Fiora.

>>335829709
Yes, because that looks like shit.
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>>335829540
Fine, have one of the boring ones ruined instead.
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>>335826623
But I played mobas for SIX FUCKING YEARS, and I don't give a shit about RTS nor do I have friends. I still fucking hate mobas, what category am I in?
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>>335827057
Timing, strategy, and tactics are all important aspects as well
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>>335826623
I'm like half Timmy
>played league when it first came out
>couldn't get into it
>friends hear about it and try it
>they love it
>I try again
>still bores me to tears
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>>335829621

Not implying that in the slightest. Just stating that the appeal is identical.
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>>335828063
i go AP support Orianna all the time (back when i played). keep on fighting the good fight, brother
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>>335825609

As someone that's played LoL since 2011/S2, I really hate what Riot is doing to the game. They no longer give two shits about the minority when it comes to the playerbase, despite these people being some of their oldest and most loyal customers. Greedy greedy greedy.

When they finally go under from their shitty business practices, no tears will be shed here.

Yes, I am still salty about Dominion. First they gut and abandon 3v3, then they remove Crystal Scar. Rest in Chaos you greedy bastards.
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>>335829806
>what category am I in?

Suicide prevention hotline.
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>>335827752
4chan youtube and google
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>>335829790
>Quinn is my lady. Like old Fiora.
Ohhhhhh, now I get it. You've got shit taste. Well carry on then. Don't let my obviously bigger dick get in the way of your unfortunate disease.
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>>335826063
Pretty much this combined with the fact creativity is frowned on and in some mobas you can legit get suspended for not playing by the meta game rulebook and actually trying out your own strategies and shit.

The genre is ruled by the pro scene which makes it unfun if you don't care about MUH PROS
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>>335825609
because /v/ is about video games
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>>335826063
Sauce this shit please.
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>>335829954
Pretty accurate tbqh family
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>>335829862
>Just stating that the appeal is identical.

You clearly have never played a DMC game on anything other than normal. Hell even on normal is way harder.
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>>335829967
I bet you like Sona, fag.
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>>335830085
???
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>>335829967
>Not wanting Fiora
Get a load of this faggot.
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I played wc3 custom games, I had to watch one popular map slowly destroy that joy.
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>>335829853

>played and enjoyed LoL for a long time but eventually got burned out and let it go. Most of my friends lost interest at around the same time
>some of them switched over to HotS
>convince me to try it
>League, but even more basic.
>"Hey, you're enjoying this, right anon?"
>"I'm enjoying playing it with you guys*."
>it's obvious I'm not actually enthusiastic about the game and they stop asking me to play it with them

I really was enjoying playing it with them.
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More than any other genre in existence moba brings out the absolute worst in whoever plays it.

The maps all look the same, the heroes are all carbon copies of shit out of Warcraft, all the of skins are the same fucking 3 archetypes, theres a massive store full of shit to buy but only two things actually apply to your specific hero and you better know what they are otherwise you've fucked yourself. Its the same shit every single time for 20 minutes until you actually get to the stage of being able to fight other fucking people. Its had a fucking awful control system for actually playing against other fucking people, it has an UI thats designed for fucking RTS games but you only ever control one single fucking hero for 45 minutes at a fucking time screaming at other people who are stuck in the same fucking position as you are.

Dota is the absolute worst genre to shit itself into existence for the past 20 fucking years.
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>>335830114

Once I beat DMC III on Dante Must Die, am I hardcore then? Sounds doable. I like goals I know I can reach.
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>>335830142
Someone who genuinely believes Dota has a better variety in girl champs also has Quinn as her favorite. No, seriously, that explains a lot.

>>335830231
Fiora is ok, but nothing special considering everything else around.
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>>335825609

1. They can't git gud.

2. They're on a team and have to effectively interact with other human beings, which their autism prevents.

3. /v/ is mostly teenagers who by their nature have no opinions of their own and echo whatever they see others saying.

4. See #1.
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>>335830237

See:

>>335826623
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>>335830380
Absolutely shit taste.
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>>335830452
Glad you're finally showing some self-awareness.
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>>335829702
No more hugs, Will.
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>>335825609
Boring shit genre, don't know why so many people like it t.bh f.am

Also /v/ is not one person
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>>335830565
Well, faggot, what's your taste, then?
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>>335830348
this, especially the control complaint
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>>335830663
My taste is pretty much every female in the game except Quinn, Vayne, Illaoi, Jinx and Orianna.
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>>335830380
>Fiora is ok, but nothing special considering everything else around.
Fair enough, she's no Enchantress
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Least they got good looking characters.
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>>335830910
>I'm an indecisive faggot
Noted.

Shit taste.
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I could understand if the genre actually changed since it came into existence but it has'nt it still has Tauren fucking heroes in all three major games, it still has the exact same hero archetypes in all three, the same items to buy, the same skills to use in the same way on the same maps to the same monsters while screaming the same shit at everyone else in the game.
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most mobas are unbalance garbage games
also the communities for these games are cancer
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>>335831013
Why would I have to choose in the first place? I like variety.
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>>335831108
Never talk to me or my bird ever again.
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>>335830910
>Annie, Anivia, Irelia and all the Yordles make it on
>Jinx doesn't
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>>335828934
For some reason even the most raging russians accept pauses 95% of the time, I have no idea why
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>>335830983

>oh, Yordlebook. Cute.
>Varus

Laff'd.
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>>335825609
Because I'm not russian or 14 years old.
ASSFAGGOTS represent the downfall of videogames. Its primary fanbase is gen Z shitters who grew up watching letsplays and twitch and the entire genre is literally RTS but easier because kids today want instant gratification and can't handle having to learn maps or build orders or strategies or juggle more than 2 things at a time. Go fuck yourself.
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>>335830260
>>335829853
>play lol for a little bit
>began to grt bored of it, hated commuting to a 40 minute game with no chance of leaving
>half the time you feel like shit after a game
>friends still play it
>looks kind of fun half the time when they do it
>will play a game every now and then, lost in all the new patches, not really having the fun I thought I'd have
>I just want to enjoy playing a team game with friends
Does this make me a Timmy?
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>>335826623
Accurate post. Of course there are other niche categories of scrutiny, some of which are valid, but people have to realize the image /v/ as a group conveys is mostly due to niches of posters like this. On identification you can really see how much the opinions you've seen on the site are this weird construct of several motivations.
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>>335831249
But anon, Tristana isn't a yordle anymore :3
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Because /v/ is ridden with autistic rage and people here have no friends. The combination of the two makes mobas unbearable.
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>>335828231
In 5 years /v/ will absolutely despise Dark Souls
They're always like that
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>>335831584
Friends and MOBAs are a pretty bad mix anon. One of them isn't going to survive.
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>>335826063
There is sauce to this?
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>>335831686
Only if you have the aforementioned autistic rage. Normal people don't lose their minds and in turn their friends over a game.
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>>335831659
>constant GIT GUD posting if you just don't enjoy the game
there's a reason
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>>335830397
Does that make me a timmy? I don't see how the death of the custom game community necessarily ties into the death of rts.
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>>335831686

Nah, I managed to keep both. The fun I was having with friends far outweighed any frustration I had from them being shitters.
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>>335825609
They take the worst aspects of fighting games, and the worst aspects of strategy games, and put them together. Then they create a meta in their mechanics so that one side can often times become one sided shitshows.

They're practically designed to create frustration in players:

"Oh you made a mistake? Have fun trying to recover, even if you play better, you're now effectively crippled for the rest of the game. Enjoy dying 10 more times."

"Oh your teammate left? That's okay, we're not going to compensate you in any way. We're not going to ask one of the other guys to sit out. Enjoy your 4v5. Oh look, it's now a 3v5."

"Hey look, this guy just ran forward into a wall of death for the tenth time in a row. Feel like calling him out on it? Too bad! Our unenforceable system ensures that you get punished for calling people out on bullshit, but they get away scott free, and continue to shit up future matches."

I could go on, but I don't need to.
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You know what I really hate about mobas, its that lots of the player base knows how terrible they are at the most fundamental level but dump tonnes of hours into them anyway. They continue to play something they know is awful just because.

The other side take any sort of criticism of the games are completely hostile and immediately jump to its defense with the same old shit that gets trotted out about the Souls games. Well you must be shit if you dislike them, you must not have played them if you dislike them.

"I refuse to even comprehend that you may well actually have actual reasons to why you dislike mobas".
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>>335825609

I don't like hero units since Warcraft 3 or 2, I don't remember which started to use them outside the campaign

What made my really hate it is the community, it's like wow 2.0, whinny and snobby...
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I don't play DotA I just watch pro matches

I've been to 2 Internationals in person
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I prefer more individualistic games like fightan and rts where I can express myself through my play versus moba which mainly just has depth through teamwork.
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>>335825609
I don't hate mobas. i hate the fact that THE ONLY MOBA I EVER REALLY FUCKING LIKED AND WANTED TO GIT GUD AT WAS KILLED BY FILTHY FUCKING EA KIKES FUCK YOU ALL GIVE ME BACK DAWNGATE GIVE ME BACK MY DOLLFU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>335832217

Oh God "the meta", you mean the constant search the find the most broken, the most min-maxed, the most piss take builds possible? Theres little reason in actually following the meta, or learning an actual hero you like because its easier to just find whatever broken shitpile has been discovered that week and play it instead. Otherwise you've gimped yourself, again.
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>>335832485

#LoLproblems
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>>335832678

Isn't the LoL "meta" just "whichever hero's the newest is the most broken so people buy them"
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>>335831394
>dota-likes
>instant gratification

Are you fucking retarded or something?
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>>335832776
HotS player here. Mostly true about this. Xeratul was a fucking monster. Now he's just strong.
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>>335831759
>>335830027
>>335828897
>>335826487
I'm late
http://exhentai.org/g/835400/e8ef73139a/
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>>335832776

It's more like the new characters are completely unbalanced so they're either completely broken or unusable trash. Of course, people don't mention the trash-on-arrival characters because it doesn't fit with the p2w narrative.
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>>335832678

Yeah pretend like one is actually better than any of the fucking others when all of them suffer from the same problems right at the very core of what they are. Its alright though I play this one which is considered slightly more "hardcore" than this other one thats more popular with a younger audience.
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>>335832962

man if only there was a game out there that didn't expect you to pay to be able to play as the characters
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>>335828038
try playing dota instead
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I miss Infinite Crisis
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>>335825609
Mobas are mobile phone-tier trash
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>>335833001

Yes, because I was making a broad statement about comparative quality and not just pointing out that constant and drastic rebalancing resulting in an unhealthy meta is a problem specific to League. You've shown me the light, and it is good.
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>>335832485
>>335832217
Fucking this
>>335832962
>>335832776
Both are true. Add in the random questionable picks the pros use and then people try to copy.
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>>335825609
Doto is pretty cool and deep.
LoL is for mongoloids.
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Remember all the amazing entries into the genre and how they went onto be massive success stories for the publishers and developers that created them?

Ahhhhh Monday Night Combat, ohhhh DC Super Heroes, ahhhhh Dead Island, ohhhh Demigod!

The list goes on for these excellenct original games and more are being created to this day, sticking rigidly to the same tired shitty map layout and tufts of grass to hide in. Hooray!
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>>335825609

because I suck in it

>have over 2500 hours in lol
>still absolutely shit at it compared to my friends and everyone else
>rage 75% of the time because my teammates constantly flame me for sucking at it and because I barely improved
>when I play with my friends I always drag them down
>have next to no nostalgia or positive memories with the game despite playing it for half my teenage years

I just hate my teammates so much. Since the whole game is so teamwork-oriented you either rage because you get shit teammates or because you're throwing the game for them.

And the game got me so addicted that I still spent years of time and lots of energy into improving in it. When I stopped playing I left the game salty and bitter instead of "how fun it was while it lasted", and I was still in silver division.

Though I think the fault was in me, I was so lazy and insecure that I would rather spend my free time on something I knew but didn't enjoy than go out and find some other hobby that I could enjoy. That's still the case :(
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>>335832934
You're doing it wrong.

>>335825609
Gentlemen. Behold! The only good thing to come out of MOBAS!

http://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=league_of_legends

http://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=dota_2
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>>335827487
Impossible, it'd take months to get to level 30 alone
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>>335833434

Its the same fucking shit, as much as you want to pretend that one is intrinsically better than the other its complete nonsense, you do almost exactly the same things in the same ways at the same time in all three of the majors, they just have slightly different colour palettes.
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only >25yo grandpas hate on it. they can not into fun anymore.
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>>335833818

I can tell that this is coming from a fan that is deeply familiar with all three major offerings.
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>>335829712
It's not "low", it IS low. The average MMR is 2700. Stop being shit.
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>>335833818
How does it feel to be objectively wrong?
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>>335825609
Because they're boring and slow.
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>>335833939
>>335834102

So out of all of the complaints mentioned in this thread so far you choose the fact that someone might think that all three games are horribly fucking similar because of where they originated from to take umbrage with.

Alright then. I freely admit I was completely wrong about this genre of fine video games and I shall hurry off to begin draining my soul into the pit of the dota clone.

Wish me luck in the Jungles and in the lanes you guys!!
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>>335825609
I feel nothing towards them because I've never played one, and based on what I've heard I have no desire to try them out.
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>>335826623
Veteran Timmy here. Played the fuck out of LoL when it was new, and got bored. Now everyone's fucking playing it.
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>>335826160
i love mobas and im pretty fucking good at fighting games.... what now bitch?
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>>335833875
1/10 underage bait
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There are a group of man children who play lol at the student lounge area at my uni. One of them I know because I hear people talk to him- he is a large fat guy with a jewfro, everyone calls him "Derpy". Another is a rather skinny Asian guy who tends to yell loudly if things go wrong. Me and some friends could be playing games on the big screen and hear him shout stuff like "COME ON MAN ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS!?" at the top of his lungs, echoing down the halls.
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>>335831394
i want this to be bait but i know it's not

>kids today want instant gratification
lol
>can't handle having to learn maps or build orders or strategies or juggle more than 2 things at a time
lol
>easier
lol
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>>335826359
For an adc she is somewhat fun. More so than other adcs.
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>>335834429
it's just that the people who actually do play the games and know what the fuck they're talking about can easily identify dumb accusations and stereotypes that people that DON'T know what the fuck they're talking about spout
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>>335825890
Literally what?
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>>335834429

>why are you taking exception to this invalid criticism instead of all of these valid ones

It's pretty clear you don't like MOBAs on a fundamental level and there isn't going to be an iteration that you would find yourself enjoying, and I think you'd agree with that statement. The assertion that they're all the same to you, someone who doesn't like them, has no merit, especially when weighed against the opinions of people who do enjoy them and spend a considerable amount of time with them who generally say there are significant differences. I'm sure in your mind, you can ascribe that to tribalistic, fanboyish petulance, but if that's actually your estimation, you could stand to show a bit more respect to people with different interests than you, and recognize that they may know more about their interests than you do about your disinterests.
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>>335827752
The hell is duck duck go?
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>>335836769

I actually agree with all of that, but to be so completely dismissed as never having played any of the genre at all?

I played Dota, I played LoL while it was in beta, I even gave a shot at HoN. There might be in-depth difference that become apparent quickly after a little amount of time spent with the games but to me who went between three and others like DemiGod for example, I ended up doing exactly what I said before, the samething in the sameway at the sametime.

It may well have been pure hyper-bole and over exaggeration on my part but to be honest all of them really are scarily similar because the things that make them similar are intrinsic parts of the genre. There are things that are good about the games though, I kinda like alot of LoLs strange aesthetics for their original heroes for example.
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>>335837237
Is it worth?
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