What are essential fps games?
>>335696695
Unreal, FEAR and STALKER. And maybe Metro. Everything else is trash.
ken's labyrinth
nightmare 3d
blood2
delta force BHD
>>335696695
Deus Ex. Not purely an FPS though, so not sure if that's what you are looking for.
le obligatory post outraged at no mentions of doom
>>335696695
>playing duke with filtering
BARF
Team Fortress 2
>>335696695
half life
doom
doom 2
quake
duke 3d
Super 3D Noah's Ark
The other build engine games and Heretic/Hexen
Wolfenstein 3D
Alien Vs Predator 2
Quake 3 Arena
>>335697051
i feel it makes the game look a bit grittier
Call of Duty
Tribes 2
>>335696695
Blood and Shadow Warrior were better than Duke IMO. Duke Caribbean is 10/10 tho.
>>335696695
Call of Duty: United Offensive.
Really the best CoD there was with MW2 a close second.
Doom
FEAR
Serious Sam
Quake
Duke Nukem 3D
Postal
Team Fortress
Red Orchestra DH
>>335696695
Why does douk enjoy ejecting shells right into his own face?
>>335697362
>not Tribes 1
You were born too late to enjoy true greatness.
>>335697504
Nah, I just enjoyed 2 more. I enjoyed the whole series, evenVengeance
>>335697767
>even Vengeance
It's not good?
>>335697809
It was the black sheep. The developers got bought out by Vivendi Universal and made some strange design choices before Vivendi just said fuck it and killed support for the game. Dumpster baby on prom night. Then Ascend came out and Tribes was good again for a while. Now it's dead for good as far as I'm concerned. Pour one out.
>>335696841
this, doom and quake
most people just don't appreciate serious sam's true greatness.
>>335697023
Deus ex is overrated as fuck here.
>>335696695
Prey
doom
half life 2 + dlcs
fallout new vegas
stalker shadow of chernobyl
half life 2 mods
dead island
counter strike source
call of duty zombie nazis
half life 1
the orange box
>>335698220
found the millennial
>>335698573
Nice buzzwords anon
>>335696695
Unreal Tournament '99
Counter Strike 1.6
Also, depending on your definition of FPS, >>335697023
>>335698573
yes he probably was born between 1980 and 2000. Good work Holmes.
>>335696841
Wow good job fitting in
>>335696695
Wolfenstein (all of them)
Doom / 2 / 64
Heretic
Hexen / 2
Strife
Duke 3D / Caribbean
Shadow Warrior
Blood
Powerslave/Exhumed
Quake / 2
Unreal 1
Turok / 2
>>335697414
>Really the best CoD there was with MW2 a close second
Bwaahahaha oh god where do you little shits come from?
Go home
Ones I haven't seen mentioned :
SWAT 4
Ghost Recon (+ expansions)
No One Lives
Crysis (+ Warhead)
Postal 2
Far Cry 2 & 3 (first one has aged a bit imo)
On the multiplayer front, I'm enjoying Insurgency A LOT atm.
>>335698220
Deus Ex deserves the praise it gets.
>>335698967
Was waiting for someone to mention Strife. Criminally underrated.
>>335698098
Vengeance had the best gunplay out of all of them tho. Fucking shame really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc5z29YmGTc
>>335699156
>Postal 2
It's not exactly an essential FPS.
Surprised no one's mentioned it yet but I'd consider the original Halo essential.
>>335699340
It's essential if you want to experience first hand the death of the genre.
>>335698967
I like this artist
>>335698098
How was Ascend killed? It was never really my genre of games because I have no reflex action whatsoever, but I distinctly remember the love, the shazbowl, and then almost immediately the complete disappearance of threads beyond "this is fucked"
I never quite saw why.
>>335699394
too edgy, bro
>>335699394
Pair that up with HL2 and prepare for the disappointment, and see all the obvious signs of casualiization and corner cutting.
>>335696695
Every game on this image.
>>335699740
God I really tried with system shock II, I did, but its so goddamn clunky man and I couldn't find the hook.
I'm not saying its bad, it clearly isn't by virtue of its influence and its cultural staying power, but its like ancient technology with unknowable runes to me.
Its like Aurora for me. I feel like I'd get something truly great out of it if I could just grasp understanding.
>>335699483
Hirez fucked it up although it had huge support from the community, and moved on to smite.
It's better now but the dmg is done.
>>335699961
What did he do? Mechanical changes? I remember it being F2P right at the start but did he make it worse?
>>335699304
Yeah OK maybe not ESSENTIAL but I thought the open-world thing was pretty well done. I enjoyed the "everyday" setting and all the interaction. The tone is ultra-adolescent, and the gunplay is mostly shit, but the exploring part is pretty good, the non-linear missions (grocery list) that you could end whenever you felt like it, the progressive difficulty level... I dunno, a lot of it just clicked with me and I think it's one of the games that got me into stuff like Deus Ex, Stalker, etc.
>>335700103
I actually don't like postal 2 very much, but I admit I can't think of a FPS that created an open world with such variety.
Farcry 2 tried, and I fucking love it, but it actually just has the same 5 things in the same 10 africanish locations, it didn't make as much use out of an open FPS world as it could have. Postal 2 does it a lot better.
>>335699932
The game is deceptively simple. It offers a lot of stuff to the new player but once you get behind it you notice that the game is so terribly balanced that it becomes a cakewalk after a while. It's like Deus Ex and the Dragon Sword. Shit's fucking retarded how broken it is.
As for clunkiness it's something you get used to. Thief used the same engine and it has the same feel to them.
Is TekWar any good?
I'm actually playing Doom for the first time lately. I've got through the first 3 episodes so far. I'm currently on E4M6 right now but so far E4 as a whole has been kicking my ass.
>>335700251
I got retroactively into deus ex back in 2010 without much issue, and thief I came in from the ground floor. System shock II seems to be built in a way that is unique enough to be hard to grasp for me personally.
Its just me though, a personal failing rather than a failing of the game.
>>335700298
E4 is just rough, what difficulty are you kicking around on?
God I want to play again. I just love E2, every part of it.
>>335700286
Its pure shit, Shatner's horrible acting when you die is pretty funny though.
>See people talking about how good Doom is
>Buy the games
>Play them
>Not even as fun as people made them out to be
I'm not even talking about graphics because there's plenty of DOS games I like playing, but holy fuck literally all you do is run around and shoot people. Even the "puzzles" are meh at best.
>>335700483
I went straight in with ultra violence. The first three episodes weren't that bad because I was always given enough to get through to the end. When it came to the first few maps of E4, I was ending levels with not much at all. It took me a few tries to beat E4M1 and I had to go real slow because I couldn't find any armour anywhere.
>>335700654
>Buy the games
>Not getting them free with source ports like gzdoom and chocolate doom
>>335700483
>>335700298
>Mfw E4M3-4, I forget which one is THAT one.
I realized I never actually played the first two Call of Duties, are they worth?
Timesplitters 2 and 3
>>335700768
First with addon is nice. Second has health regen.
>>335700683
(Thy) flesh consumed is extremely unreasonable, and you can tell it was designed after 2 years of doom being out, for people who had been playing doom for 2 years.
Its the only one you simply cannot play without using doors and entrances to duck in and out of view. People think halo invented cover, thy flesh was doing it years before and I vaguely remember it happening in wolfenstein 3d.
Good fucking luck on ultraviolins.
>>335700768
The first one is a blocky saving private ryan but it remembers it wasn't just yanks fighting by themselves.
Lots of set piece scenes, not cutscenes but things like sitting on a boat sailing towards leningrad and hearing your comissars telling you that only half of you will get rifles, and the other half will get a clip of ammo to follow him up a hill lined with chainguns. Also Operation CLEARLYNOT Market garden.
2 has fat germans. Seriously. Lots of them too. Its alright.
>>335700654
Controls are great, level design great, guns are all varied and useful throughout the entire game except the pistol and fist, enemies are all clearly different in order to challenge the player, soundtrack and sound overall is badass. Wolfenstein 3D showed how a good FPS should be, but Doom raised the bar tenfold. We're talking 1993 here.
And the game still holds up. It's simple, it's good.
>>335698615
>people born in 98 can post here
>>335700880
>People think halo invented cover, thy flesh was doing it years before and I vaguely remember it happening in wolfenstein 3d.
It's actually pretty funny, despite your running speed Doom isn't that fast paced of a game. You had to utilise cover plenty of times to not get buttfucked by chainguners and hitscan weapons, and now people are going apeshit over the new Doom.
>>335701418
Yeah, especially when any monster with a hitscan weapon DOES NOT MISS IF THEY SEE YOU. modern games often give you a little breathing room.
>>335700246
Agreed. Postal 2 is by no means an amazing game, it just got the whole open world thing really well. I liked Far Cry 2 a lot as well (took me some time though !) but yeah, the mission system is shitty and the "open world" is basically just corridors you drive through (except for a couple of places at the maps' extremities), but yeah the gunplay (rust, health system, stealth, and yes even malaria) was really well done (except the respawning checkpoints, the next games were much better in that regard).
IMO the perfect Far Cry game would be the gunplay / HUD / atmosphere of 2, mixed with the level design and checkpoint / outpost system of 3.
If you like Far Cry 2, you propably played Stalker, but on the off-chance you haven't I'd definitely recommend it.
>>335701645
Way ahead of you, I knew there was another game series that utilized open-world FPS, I just fucking forgot stalker existed for some goddamn reason.
Farcry 2 has a lot of stuff in it to offer future games. You do feel immersed, it does look beautiful, you do enjoy gunfights. It just lets itself down so badly over the rest.
I have the same problem with shadows of mordor. I really think the nemesis system is worth pullout out of the crapsack and using again, or reinventing. There must be so many really good ideas hiding in mediocre or less-than -perfect games.
Good talk, anon.
>>335701147
>Controls are great
Then why do I need to constantly have to fight mouse movement with moving with the keyboard.
>>335702132
I have no idea what you're saying here.
The KB-only controls work fine, and if you want you CAN turn with Mouse as well.
All in all, Doom is still a superb FPS game, and literally set the bar (quite high at that) for the genre.
>>335698220
It deserves the praise it gets.
>>335701958
Ha ha, yeah Stalker's great.
Haven't played Shadow of Mordor, I'm not really into the whole Fantasy thing (I really tried with Elder Scrolls, and I know it's my loss, but... not my thing) but yeah, FC2 had some great ideas, and FC3 was surprisingly good (considering Ubisoft) as well IMO.
I think it's a real a shame that for a game series that so consistently and successfully came up with new stuff on each iteration, they decided in the end to do the Ubi thing and shit out sequel-clones from now on (FC4, Primal, what-fucking-ever).
yeah, good talk man
>>335696695
I want to play duke for the first time, which version is the best?
>>335702973
I would say Eduke23 since its a free source port but i heard Gearbox is trying to take it down because they're selling the game with the Megaton Edition on Steam
>>335698220
Deus ex is over rated for the same reason Godhand is. there isnt a single game that does what they do better
>>335702703
When I try moving with keyboard, my movement gets all glitchy and wonky, because it turns out I was trying to move with the keyboard while at the same time the mouse was trying to move me as well.
>>335703061
>Megaton Edition
Is it worse?
>>335703105
Set regular controls for your sourceport (hopefully ZDoom):
>WASD for forward/back/strafe
>mouse left/right for look
Why this isn't the default I don't know.
>>335703178
I dont know, so far, i heard good things about it
>mfw people that mention old arena shooters
>>335698967
wheres my nigga blake stone
>>335703178
It's pretty much a buggier JFduke.
>>335697414
>Postal
I know you're talking about the second game, but while it is in fact a great experience for many aspects the gunplay is really weak, especially compared to many games in your list.I haven't played the new expansion yet though.
>>335701645
>>335700103
The thing with P2 is not only the free roaming but how much the game has been touched, updated and the many small details that make it a unique experience. Plus the fact there is a variety to work around the levels due the many weapons and items you're given.
Essential FPS? Not really. But I'd consider it an essential free roam tittle.
And don't get me wrong, I loved and 100% P2 (Minus the DLC as for yet), but it belongs on a different category.
>>335696695
Doom I and II (Final Doom, TNT, Plutonia)
Quake I and II
Bulletstorm
FC3 Blood Dragon
Battlefield Bad Company 2
Shattered Horizon
Serious Sam HD
L4D2
Desu EX HR
Killing Floor
Fear
Stalker
Metro
Duke Nukem 3d Megaton Edition
Wolfenstein 3D
Half Life 1 - 2
Red Orchestra
TF2
Most of this has already been listen in the thread though
>crtl+f
>No Painkiller Hell and Damnation
For fuck sake /v/
>>335696695
Reminder that Painkiller is shit for making the Bhop easier than fucking quake
>>335703510
It was the Golden Age, man. Can't be helped.
>>335704578
>easier bhop is a bad thing
FAGGOT
LEAVE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>335696695
Doom (1, 2 and 64, skip 3-63), Heretic
Duke Nukem 3D, Shadow Warrior, Blood
Serious Sam
Painkiller
Turok
Powerslave
Far Cry Blood Dragon
Call of Juarez Gunslinger
>>335696841
>STALKER
>Essential
STALKER is poorly designed shit and you know it
>>335704327
Serious Sam 3 was better.
The 2nd half made for more than enough for the first half.
>>335704453
Because it's a shittier version of Painkiller Black Edition
>>335699740
Why are MW2, Killzone, Crysis, Bad Company 2 on this image? Those are now considered classic games. Who was this made by, a retro-fag in 2011 or something?
half life 2
fallout 3
modern warfare 2
far cry 3
painkiller black edition if you're into retro shit
>>335696943
>delta force BHD
Nigger I will murder you for coupling that game with those 3.I haven't touched that game in centuries, but I loved it when I was a kid. It was my first and only tactical shooter.
>>335705110
>What is subjectivity
>>335705210good taste
These are the only FPS' you should be playing
All Call of Duty's until Black Ops 1
FEAR
All Battlefields until Bad Company 2
SWAT 4
Quake 3
Unreal Tournament 99 and 2004
Starsiege Tribes
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
Red Faction
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Half Life 2
TF2
Counter Strike 1.6
>>335697414
>Call of Duty: United Offensive
Great game, but i still prefer the Allied Assault w/expansions.
>>335705271
It is objectively worse.
It costs twice as much and has like a third of the original's content, and even then there are some questionable changes to the levels, like different enemy placement, different level progression, different weapons, in some cases different lighting and music, and somehow a WORSE final boss fight.
Painkiller didn't need an HD remake, it still looks pretty good.
The only good feature of Hell and Damnation is the co-op.
>>335699115
We have argument of exceptional quality here.
>>335700062
HiRez, the company, not a guy. They got the game up to a really nice point, very nicely balanced, then SMITE came out, then Ascend got fucked up (mostly having to do with flag mechanics and speed caps, gunplay got left untouched I THINK), and then the devs completely and totally abandoned it for a few years to focus solely on SMITE. They brought out a patch fixing what they'd fucked up a few months ago, but it'll never be as popular as it was.
>>335698967
>Wolfenstein (all of them)
RTCW is good at best.
What the fuck was Xatrix studios problem? They made games with fucking great atmosphere but with broken shooting mechanics even on the Q2 engine.
>>335698967
Is Wolf3D still necessary in this day and age? Doom is objectively better in almost every single way.
>>335705631
So?
Do two things, learn what subjective means and how it applies to H&D vs BE and then try and figure out why everything you just mentioned is irrelevant.
>>335704684
Just make the movement speed faster
>>335699932
The controls are really outdated in it. I guess if people are saying that the game aged badly, they mostly talk about its control system.
>>335699740
>Mortyr
>Blood II
>South park
>Essential
>>335706050
It's always fun to take a look at early games and give them a go.
>>335705006
>>335705542
half of those are rpg's, not shooters
>>335705036
What's up with SS2 being considered a black sheep of the series? I remember it being really fun.
>>335706057
Okay help me understand.
Because this is like preferring the shareware version of Doom to the full release.
What do you like in Painkiller Hell and Damnation?
>>335703061
>i heard Gearbox is trying to take it down
They won't, even at the court. It is literally a standalone engine made on open-source code which happen to run Dook-three-dee.
>>335705110
This.
And Painkiller, though a great (but very flawed) game, is by no means an essential.
>>335698170
Not the newer doom and Bethesda ducked up quake live, the community is dead.
>>335706693
Why not?
BLOOD
Quake
Doom
Fear
Unreal
Halo 1-3
Pick and choose a few CoDs before MW3
Stalker/Metro if you like 1 you'll probably like the other
There's a lot more but those are just some standouts for me
>>335706853
SOURCE
PORT
FUCKING
WHEN
ATARI YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS
>>335706050
It is an essential. Noone said that it is great game to play or the best out there, but it is essential and influential.
>>335706057
>>crtl+f
>>No Painkiller Hell and Damnation
>For fuck sake /v/
You said exactly that, implying that not mentioning H&D is /v's bad taste, so don't you try to hide behind subjectivity.
>>335696695
Serious Sam The First and Second Encounter
>>335707194
Serious Sam games are too hardcore for casuals.
>Doom series with Hexen, Heretic and Strife
>Delta Force series
>Rainbow Six up to Raven Shield
>STALKER (modded)
>FEAR 1 and expansion pack
>Battlefield 2 / Project Reality (combined arms tac shooter mod) or Forgotten Hope 2 ( WWII combined arms warfare)
>System Shock 2
>Serious Sam
>Red Orchestra Darkest Hour
>SWAT 3 and 4
>Killing Floor
>>335696695
>le douk
>essential
Can we stop pretending that this boring, slow piece of shit game was ever good?
>>335706852
It is a clone of Serius Sam design-vise. OP asked for essentials, and essentials are not necessarily best games, or even good ones - they are the ones without which the genre as we know it wouldn't be quite the same nowadays. So, SS is essential, PK is not - 'teast in my opinion.
>>335707194
then Serious Sam 2 would be an option
>>335706997
Check the XLEngine progress. It is active again and author showed videos from Bloodbath and Shadow warrior, which i hope means that BloodXL build is not far away.
>>335707389
>slow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAP0Yknoir8
![38234-unreal-gold-windows-screenshot-na-pali-s-beautiful-sky[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1TuaECl.jpg "38234-unreal-gold-windows-screenshot-na-pali-s-beautiful-sky[1].jpg")
>No specific mention of Unreal Gold
For shame.
>>335707410
Fair enough
>>335707770
That gun isn't in Unreal.
>>335707915
It's in the expansion. It's given to you almost from the start.
It's also powerful as fuck and I love it, one of my favorite weapons in the original game.
>>335706997
Kaiser is working on Blood EX right now.
>>335699740
>No Rainbow Six
>Fucking South Park is """essential"""
>>335707915
>he never played Return to Na Pali
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnGFKvvWtxs
>MoH:AA
>Quake series
>Doom series
>Unreal Tournament
>F.E.A.R
>Wolfenstein 3D & return
>Blood
>Redneck Rampage
>SiN
>The Chronicles of Riddick
>Call of Duty 2
>Red faction
>Serious sam serieseven 2
>Swat 4
>Half life series
>Killing Floor
>Postal 2
It's like Serious Sam, I liked it a lot as a kid.
>>335699156
SWAT 3 was infinitely better than SWAT 4
Okay niggers I am trying to remember a game.
It's an FPS (duh) game where you play as someone from the FBI (Or a bodyguard?) and the first level takes place in the white house being under attack. Anyone knows the name? I remember seeing a video but Google doesn't give me shit.
>>335708819
Is not an essential list anon. Just a comparison list.
>>335701629
>modern games often give you a little breathing room.
>Play Blood
>More fucking hitscan enemies than a poorly made Doom map with chain gunners that bring the game to a fucking grinding halt
>People actually think it's a good game too
i think we all know
