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>Item collection during multiplayer while accessing NPC and Covenant Alter is now working as intended.
>Conditions for optional events is eased.
>Conditions to get Rosaria’s Finger is eased.
>If they haven’t visited the Untended Grave, players will not be teleported there.
>Kicks cannot be parried.
>The Crystal Sage will appropriately re-appear even after he has warped.
>The Dragonslayer Armour won’t die before the battle.
>Knight Slayer Tsorig will no longer gesture unintendedly.
>Siegward of Catarina will now be able to properly rescue Greirat once conditions are met.
>If the player is equipped with a ring that increases Max HP, stats will now be properly reflected when opening the equipment screen.
>The voice chat icon will now be displayed properly under the covenant panel.
>Items, bonfire and the “Quit Game” option are now appropriately active even when disconnecting online.
>If the game disconnects during a multiplayer session, it will no longer crash and return to the title screen.
>Adjustments of the balance of game, improvements of performance and various flaws have been made.

Is this the nerf to the dark sword and estoc that we have been waiting for?
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>still no pop-in fix
fuck everything
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>Poise still off
Unintentional or not, how do you fuck up this bad
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Thanks for the list of reasons not to buy the game
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>>335685646
>Is this the nerf to the dark sword and estoc that we have been waiting for?
Where?
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>>335685646
>Magic nerfed again

AHAHAHAHA
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>>335686457
Poise as it was in ds1 was a shit mechanic that only encouraged spam and greatly favored light weapons. With poise gone, heavy weapons have been giving a shitload of hyper armor in exchange.
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>>335686669
>>335686392
>>335685646
wtf is wrong with you ppl..are you reading more than i ???

no mention of weapons or magic...various improvments of performance and various flaws can mean "pop up" retardness to the max
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why are fromsoft so shit at releasing patch notes, everything is so vague
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>>335686776
>adjustments to the balance of the game

They're not telling us exactly what, but some things are nerfed/buffed.
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>>335686860
seems appropriate
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>>335686776
Regulation Patch notes 1.06 are out on Steam you faggot.

Adjustment to some covenant matchmaking level, Nerfs to Straightsword, buffs to Twinswords, nerfs to magic.
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>>335685646
>Adjustments of the balance of game:

Regulation Ver 1.06
The range of the matching level of the Blade of the Darkmoon and the Blue Sentinels have been adjusted.
The efficiency of the following categories has been adjusted: Short Sword, Twinsword and Magic.
Other game balance improvement and bug fixes.
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>>335686537
>>335686892
>>335686860
See>>335686973
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>>335686960
Just says adjustments being made, no where does it say what gets buffed and nerfed.
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>>335686973
>>335686960
>Adjustment to some covenant matchmaking level
>nobody uses way of the blue
FROM
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>>335686960
>nerfs to magic
Holy Christ are you serious? I don't believe you. No way. They can't be nerfing magic even after it's been beaten into the fucking ground like it has.
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>>335686973
>and Magic
So it'll become stronger or weaker? I get mixed feedback about Magic being OP or shit.
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>>335685646
>Knight Slayer Tsorig will no longer gesture unintendedly.
why
>If the player is equipped with a ring that increases Max HP, stats will now be properly reflected when opening the equipment screen.
Great, now we only need they change this for rings that level up other stats so we can see them in the leveling up menu properly.
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>>335687205
>>Knight Slayer Tsorig will no longer gesture unintendedly.
>why
He'll still gesture after killing you, just not gesture mid fight. He did in my first playthrough which is the only way I managed to kill him. I'm probably fucked for NG+.
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>>335687163
Pyromancy (Great chaos fireorb/Chaos bed vestinges) and Soul Stream/CSS are broken and being nerfed.
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>>335687115
>nobody uses it
my 200+ invasions at sl 100 disagree half the time the fuck gets a blue sent and darkmoon when I'm not even a fucking finger.
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>people think Estoc is what's getting nerfed
bro anything with a god damn lightning enchant stuns the shit out of you, it doesn't matter.
Estoc doesn't do much damage, if you can't survive it and get a parry off you are seriously garbage.
i switched to Irithyl Rapier for dat thrust
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>>335686960
Magic blows nuts as is, and is hardly viable, with its only saving grace that at 60int with rings makes it powerful. Shit in pvp, slow as fuck, no hyper armor, almost all the spells have limited range, limited range of magic weapons.
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>>335685646
>improvements of performance and various flaws have been made.

PC player here. I hope From isn't just tugging at my heart strings.
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>>335687264
So they're going to nerf the only viable spells.

Greeeeeeat.
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>>335687264
Oh my God. RIP magic in Souls.

Holy shit, Miyazaki must have been molested by a stage magician in his youth, because there's no other reason for him to hate magic so much.
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>Magic nerfed
>Estoc untouched

A-team people.
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Ok so basically they are nerfing the only decent performing weapons and magic instead of buffing everything else so everything is shittier now.
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>>335687381
what are you on about, magic in DkS1 is straight up retardedly broken
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>magic getting nerfed

good you little fragile wizzards are the healers of dark souls

know your place
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If magic is getting nerfed i'll keep myself in this patch. I'm doing a wizard run.
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>>335687465
It was broken in PvE, useless in PvP.
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>>335687305
Finally someone who gets it. If you can't defeat an estoc/darksword player you should either git gud or uninstall.
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>mfw everything but katanas and straight/thrust swords is shit in pvp
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>>335687553
Well, a full blown hit from Dark Bead will fuck someone up, and Affinity did hurt if it connected.
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>No poise
>Ganksquads
>R1 spam pvp
Would ask for a refund if I could
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still no fix for darkmoon blade and blue sentinels? They still only work with one covenant. they should really fix that.
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I want Greatswords to be buffed or at least changed to make them worth using. You either use a straight or a ugs right now, my claymore feels pointless.
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>>335685646
>Conditions to get Rosaria’s Finger is eased.

What does that mean ?
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>>335687595
>He doesn't use a fuckhueg weapon and go for trades
Greataxes are secretly OP as fuck, dude.
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I want to throw lightning spears at people but apparently they're shit.
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>>335687584
>>335687305
t.estoc user
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>>335687714
They made her more slutty
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>we balanced stuff
>we adjusted some stuff
>we changed some stuff
fucking kek
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Well done. They actually broke firelink shrine by having it all load at once instead of the fog wall. Well fucking done From.
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>>335687595
Greataxes and some UGS are pretty strong. They mainly rely on your opponent making mistakes though.
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>>335687747
>40 vit
jesus fucking christ you must tank hits like a god damn fortress
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>>335687714

My guess is they nerfed the rafter knights.
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>>335687792
Well ofcourse, it's my favourite weapon.

Git gud plebian greatsword user.
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>>335687796
Anon please...
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>>335687705
Yeah, I'm getting that feeling with the Sword of Judgement as well. Greatswords feel like a really bad compromise between UGS and shortswords, in that they have damage comparable to shortswords, minimal hyper armor, slow speed, and questionable range.
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>>335687843
You mean the worms ? Seriously ?
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>>335687780

Faith builds are more for making a lightning weapon and using Tears of Denial than using miraces offensively.
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>>335687840
Oh, it's the best.
I can trade hits 1 for 1 with bosses in NG+ and still outlast them.
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>>335687595
Greataxes are nuts. If your opponent fucks up they're screwed, and you can pressure/bait them into fucking up a fair amount
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>>335687963
There's a cathedral knight above the platform to get down that does nothing but spam an overhead double hit that one shots you without recovery. I don't think you can parry it, I never tried to actually fight the guy, but I'm assuming his damage was nerfed or he has recovery after using that move now.
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>>335687747
Nice build you have there m8.
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>>335688028
>40 end
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>>335687963

Not the worms. If you go to Cathedral before a certain point in the game, Patches won't be there to have raised the bridge to where Rosaria is. In that case you have to use an elevator coming from the ground level (across from the entrance to the pit where the giants are) to go up a tower where you get the Dark Ring, dropping down to a buttress and then going through the rafters. The rafters are narrow and have a couple of cathedral knights (greatsword and crossbow) who are notorious for being dicks.
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>>335687262
Is that the guy in Smouldering Lake? I just forced the fucker into lava then killed him
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>>335685646
>>Conditions for optional events is eased.
>>Conditions to get Rosaria’s Finger is eased.
These interest me the most.

I hate not being able to join Rosaria's Fingers until after I defeat the Twin Princes just so I don't piss off Sirris even after she swears fealty to me, also the conditions for getting a lot of items in this game are fucking annoying, I missed getting Creighton's set on my main and it still pisses me off even now.
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>>335688109
Oh. THEM. Yeah I get it now, yeah why not
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>>335687913
I mean I'm still using my Claymore but I'm thinking of trying out the Zwei or something.
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>>335688121
>Swing three times with a Greataxe
>Still have stamina left
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>>335687671
Poise is good, now we have hyperarmor instead which is a way better mechanic

>R1 Spam PVP
Are you retarded? If you lose to a R1 spammer you're just fucking bad.

>>335687451
>Only decent performing weapons
Take a straight sword to PVP and see where that will get you It won't get you anywhere unless you're fighting retards
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>>335688132
You can join the fingers without Sirris as long as you do not give her any tongues or respec.
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>>335687995
How is blessed weapon?
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>>335688127
But patches takes the bridge down when you try to cross anyway ? I died before getting back to him and had to take the detour with those faggots knights so I thought it was the default route
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>>335686457
I don't understand why people want poise back
Especially the heavy weapon users who seem to want it confuse me
Did you not play any PvP in DaS1?
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>>335687553
>I never played Dark Souls!
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Did they fix backstabs in PvP? At least in DaS2 you had to roll if you wanted to escape it, in this one you can literally just fucking walk out of it.
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>Still not deprioritizing invading into groups
>No clear weapon nerfs/buffs

Shit patch will not come back.
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>>335687995
Not true at all at with 60 faith you will fuck everything with sunlight spear. You can also get up to 600 ap with sacred oath and darkmoon blade/lightning blade.
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Does the menu finally show your real time attack stats like it was in DS1? For example, when you 2 hand a weapon and it shows your increased damage
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>>335688246
Why the fuck would I even care about joining Rosaria's Fingers if it wasn't to give her tongues or respec?
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>>335687115
Quite the contrary.

Everybody uses the goddamn covenant.

And sometimes I think everybody uses the way of the blue as well, because 8 out of 10 people I invade as a red will get a blue summoned if there is room. Like, the instant I kill one of the host's sunbros, I count to ten, and the blue gets summoned.

I guess that the blues population is so massive that there are simply not enough way of the babies getting invaded at once.
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>>335688197
>Swing three times with a Greataxe

I still don't get it
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>>335688246
Will this allow me to get that gesture on the same playthrough as Sirris's ring or do I still have to do another playthrough for that?
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>>335687262
>only way I managed to kill him
Throw alluring skull to lava
Watch him die
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>>335688281

You can buy the belltower key and actually bypass Patches by going up the belltower. Bridge will stay raised.
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>>335688337
Do you need Obscuring ring that early?
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>>335687747
>use a great axe
>don't hit very often but when I do they panic because I ate most of their health in one blow
>Warcry'd R2
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>>335688197
If those swings can be parried you best prepare your anus for a hornet ring riposte.
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>>335688368
Oh ok didn't know that. Thanks. The cunt won't get me this time
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>>335688363
It will. You will miss out on Yellowfinger's gesture though. You can't get both.
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>tfw they will never buff ultra greatswords
>tfw they will always be in the shadow of greathammers and greataxes
>tfw FUG was the only one that was on their level and it got nerfed to the ground
JUST
At least they're not greatswords
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>>335688352
Here's an example of how that's useful.
>PvP
>I swing and miss
>I continue swinging a second time and miss
Now, 1 of two things can happen.
>He tries to punish my misses and gets hit by the 3rd strike
or
>He doesn't try to punish my misses and waits until I miss the 3rd strike as well
In the 2nd case, I'd be pretty screwed if I didn't have any stamina left.
It's just a nice safety net.
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How much dex would you guys reccommend for a pure strength build if I still wanted to use some greatswords/UGS? Am I better off just going quality if I want to use them?
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>>335688321
That's not a lot.
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>>335688457
Hello fellow Greataxe bro

How are you enjoying baiting people with R1 only to follow into R2 for their entire health bar
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>>335688513
>Astora Greatsword will forever be amazing
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>>335688463
Isn't it that greataxes, great hammers and ultra class greatswords are unparryable when 2-handed?
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>>335688197
It's still a waste

I'm an Astora Greatsword user, and I keep my Endurance at 30 because with the ring of Favor and Protection I can swing my sword three times and then literally have 1 stamina point left with which I can swing for that magic 4th hit or roll away.

Adding another 10 points would not get me another hit, so it's fucking worthless.

I guess it would help me double roll out of the way, but I haven't been in a situation where I hit someone twice with my Greatsword and then had them keep pressure on me like that.
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>>335688496
Not him but wow the conditions to get emotes and items suck. About the ring trophy, do the ng+ versions count for the ng version or do you need to get every playthrough version ?
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>>335688439
If people are going to Rosaria then it's because they want to respec their points.
I had to put my INT up to 10 on my Cleric because otherwise the Sorcerer wouldn't speak with me to come back to Firelink; and I needed him because he's one of Yuria's assassination targets, without which you can't get the Morion Blade.
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Call me when they fix the godawful performance
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>>335688496
Dammit, that's actually the gesture I was talking about. I managed to join the Fingers right after I beat the Abyss Watchers on my first playthrough, so it was the perfect time to screw me out of the gesture and ring.
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>>335688586
>ultra greatsword
I was talking about straight swords mate while you do 1 hit I did 3.
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>>335688592
It's the FUG of greatswords. Such a thing won't last my friend. Prepare to get your shit fucked.
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>>335688576
You can literally almost OS people with the L2 of your axe, why waste so many points in end when you could just manage it better ?
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>>335688613
Only with the heavy attack.
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>>335688640
You need to get every single ring, including the NG+ and NG++ ones. ex. you'll need Wolf Ring, Wolf Ring+1, and Wolf Ring +2.

Each ring appears on a specific NG or higher so you don't have to worry about missing an NG ring if you move on to NG+ or something like that.
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>>335688640
You need all versions of all rings. That means beating Nameless king on NG++, Champion on NG+++ and having fun with the wolf covenant.
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>>335688613
I'm pretty sure you can parry some of their attacks still. UGS r1s seem parriable generally.
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>>335688679
>Update
>mfw I did the same

I beat cristal sage after the abyss watchers. Jesus we're in for until ng++ my friend
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any improvement on performance?
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>>335688586
What are your stats. I've hears that Astora greatsword has an A in Int and faith, so it's great for dark magic users and pyromancers?
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>>335688636
There's not really anything I'd want to put it into.

>VIG
Minor HP increase
>ATT
Completely pointless for my build
>VIT
Already have enough to equip what I want
>STR
Increase in damage would be pathetic
>DEX
See "STR"
>INT
Pointless
>FAI
Pathetic increase in damage and access to Miracles I don't care about
>LCK
Pffft
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>>335687381
In Demon's Souls magic was absurdly powerful and incredibly easy to build even from the very beginning.
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i hope they fix the weird framedrops when fiddling with equipment or picking up something
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>>335688740
>>335688767
Oh ok so for example I missed the wolf ring on NG so I'll get it on NG+ right ?

Jesus I don't think I'll plat this game, it's just plain dumb
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>No blue eye orb added.
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>>335688903
If you miss a ring that you find somewhere in the world in NG, it will appear in NG+ and onward. NG+ rings will also appear in NG++ and so on and so forth. It's a pretty grueling platinum, but its mostly the concord/swordgrass grinding that's tedious, finding rings will be cake after you spend all that time grinding.
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>>335685646

>no weapon rebalance

So it is still completely pointless use anythings that isn't the longsword/dark sword?
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>>335686960
>buff to twinswords
If that includes Gothhardt's I'm fucking set. I seriously doubt they're buffing twinswords instead of nerfing them though, as most of them can combo an L1 into L2 R2.
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>>335688943
>Make Sentinels auto-defenders
>Make Darkmoon invaders to those who commit sin
And there, the two groups are now different.
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Did they fucking fixed fog wall before Dancer?
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>>335689058
yes and it will always be like that because poise is broken
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>>335688817
40/40 int/faith and buffs out the ass. It's not really worth looking at UGS for pure damage. Unbuffed with no shenanigans it's only like 679 AR, while a chaos straight sword on the same stats is ~530. It's only really good for the hyper-armor and weapon art. Might be more appealing after straight swords take a hit in the patch.
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>>335688127
Those guys are even worse as navigating the rafters than the player is.
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>>335688860
Just put more into faith and attunement so you can get more access to buffs/tears of denial.

Even if you think that's a paltry thing to spec in, it's still less useless than 10 points of endurance being wasted on literally nothing.
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>>335689058
See>>335686960
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>Conditions to get Rosaria’s Finger is eased.

What's this supposed to mean? All you have to do is walk up to her.
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>>335687584
Dark sword isn't so bad, but estoc is tough shit if they aren't horrible. Might just be that I am slow, but I can't reaction parry and estoc. Nor katana running attacks, it just turns into a guessing game and I'm not great at gambling.

I'd much rather go up against a dark sword than an ultra weapon with some reach though, that shit is scary. The dark sword is just a regular longsword with a tiny bit more damage and deceptively long range.
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>>335688817
Chaos: A/A
Lightning: S
Dark: A/A
Crystal: S
Refined: B/B
take your pick
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>>335689197
>Buffs
My Weapon of choice is unbuffable
>Tears
I have exactly enough ATT and FAI to cast that as is
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>>335688132
>>>Conditions for optional events is eased.
I wonder if this means that finally get to see the patches in the cathedral event that has evaded me so far.
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>>335687838
>>335687747
I don't consider the axes that scary. Usually you can just be patient and poke away without committing. The UGS though, holy shit. Can't do anything without risking getting chunked for more than half your health.
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>>335688903
Get Gud
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>>335685646
>DISCONNECT DOESN'T RETURN TO TITLE SCREEN

Fucking finally, jeez, after Xbox Live fucking up two weekends in a row.
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>>335686457
I'd only welcome poise back if small weapons gave you negative poise
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>>335689148
This, they're the painting guardians 2.0. Just stand close to them at an intersection and they'll try to swing, stepping forward during the attack and plummeting to their death.

Also works to lure the black knight down to Tsorig in smoldering lake, though not as reliably as the black knights are a little more varied in their attacks.
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>>335688127
You dingus just piss them off and run around the rafters. They will fall off.
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>>335686960
>The efficiency of the following categories has been adjusted: Short Sword, Twinsword and Magic.
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>>335689261
Yeah running katana attacks are the worst for me. A tip is using either the buckler shield or caestus to parry. Buckler feels more like DaS parrying and caestus is kind of hidden + fast.
Estoc is kind of easy to parry, you just have to parry on their first attack or take a chance in the middle of their R1 spam. I'd suggest just trying to parry the first attack and if you fail just try to roll out and try again.
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>>335689005
Yeah except way of the blue is fucked so getting the items of the covenant is gonna be a pain in the ass too. Nah forcing the ng++ on people is stupid
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>>335689489
>10 VIT theme-build character
>summoning phantoms and burning through tons of embers trying to clear Dragonslayer Armor, who is being a cunt due to his low-downtime between attacks
>finally get a phantom that isn't retarded and can actually get through the fucking fog door
>Kill the boss
>Right as the last attack lands: Error- Disconnected from the Dark Souls 3 game server. Now returning to the title screen
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>>335689728
>having to summon phantoms multiple times because shit
good
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>>335689078
How does this fix anything? Sinners would be anyone that invade, so blue sents would only defend people from first time invaders?
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>>335688767
You don't need to beat champion on ng+++. Every ring is doable by ng++
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>>335689806
Oh you are right, I just assumed it was so since the life ring has a +++ version.
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>>335689234

Yes, walk up to her after taking the elevator in the shortcut that leads to the roofs containing several assassins, hollows, and knights; drop down on the hidden platform below; and finally walk through a rain of mangrubs.

Are you dense?
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>>335685646
did it fix the stuttering
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>everyone screaming and crying that magic is gonna be nerfed
NOWHERE does it say it will be nerfed, it might as well be a buff. Jesus christ you guys are completely retarded.
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>>335689785
Sentinels fight against red phantoms, but not sinner hosts
Darkmoon fight sinners hosts, but not red phantoms
Not necessarily fix, but differentiates the two groups, as FROM seems incessant to keep them, even though they are both, right now, the exact same covenant.

Possibly for active defending, maybe make it so that Blue Sentinels can also actively defend against those who are also blue sentinels and darkmoon, so it's not way of the blue BS.
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>>335689728
>invade
>host and 2 phantoms are fighting fellow furry of farron
>run over to the fight
>host immediately disconnects
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>>335689148
This. They always fall off of the rafters. When they don't, I just kite them to where the other 2handing knight was. People actually had trouble with this? I'm a garbage player and this wasn't hard.
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>>335689710
I am using Gotthardt/caestus off. Thinking of switching to rapier off since it's not as obvious. Do you know if it's similarly fast? Because I'm loving the caestus parry so far.
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>>335689710
I wish there was data on which parry option is the best. I've been running with parrying dagger but I might try the power fist because it might be less obvious.
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>>335690080
Try it in PvE a bit so latency doesn't play any tricks on you. The caestus seems a lot quicker than small shields so far. Very little startup. But like a small shield, if you botch it you will pay the price.
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>>335685646
>Crystal Sage he
>he
I thought it was a woman
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>>335689990
You can speedrun to that location very easily. You're making it sound a lot harder than it is. You don't even have to kill most of the monsters in the way, especially the grubs since opening the covenant door makes you invincible and they don't follow inside. The covenant barely even does anything. And do you think they're gonna design a whole new area or something to house her?
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>>335689081
Fuck it
I beat her even when my summons disconect because they can't go in
Fuck this boss but i kicked her ass and was happy... Then i killed crazy dragon king at my 2nd try
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>>335689065
They're buffing swords that are already really strong desu and nerfing the only magic spells worth using.

I think From have lost their mind, is it April 1st again already? Is April 1st on a different day for Japan like new years for China?
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>>335687747
I'm doing a dex/faith in ng+3 and everything 2 shots me in shitty armor holy shit, im stealing your build
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>>335690053
Never tried it, but from the looks of it it seems to be the same parry as the parrying dagger.
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>>335688585
Don't even admit you level it up
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I've been playing these games since DeS and I still don't know what 'Hyper Armor' is.
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>>335688364
VENGEANCE WILL BE MINE TSORIG!
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>>335689234
Despite the line about optional events also being eased, I'm thinking it's an imperfect way of saying that Sirris won't be so easily angered, because this >>335689990 is fine as is. Red Covenants have always been somewhat challenging to get to, even if it's gotten progressively easier with each game; even if you don't even need to join to get the uncracked Eye Orb.
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>tfw you and Cr1tikal invade together as Aldrich Faithfuls
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>>335685646
What is it with this game and it's massive fucking hard-on for faith builds? jfc
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>>335690545
a meme
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>>335690434
Go right ahead, it's a really fun one.
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>>335688613
yea the r2, still you can do like 3 R2 with 40 end
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>>335690545
That's because it was only added in the last 2 games.
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>>335690545
Common term in many games. Means the actions you do are uninterruptable.
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>>335690367

I'm not even saying it's hard, but it's hardly "walking up to her" which is what you spewed out of your mouth.

And it is fairly easy to miss the drop down point.
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>>335690404
Except it doesn't say what is being nerfed or buffed. It is says efficiency of those categories is being adjusted. They could simply be buffing miracles and touching nothing else. They might be just adjusting FP values.
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So online still buggy as shit? That's all I care about, the rest of these "fixes" seem pretty detrimental to me
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>>335685646
>online de-sync hasn't been sorted
I really shouldn't be expecting them to do it.
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>>335690679

>I have never played Demon Souls.
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>>335690689
Hyper Armor is when you take no damage. When your actions are uninterruptable it's called Super Armor
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>you can sip literally point blank against an invader and not get punished with more than one poke
QUALITY
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>>335687264
Pyromancer here

I can confirm this nerf is needed. My fireballs do my more than my dagger ripostes.
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>>335690545
It's a period of time during an action, usually an attack, where your character will absorb attacks rather and continue his action rather than be knocked out of it.
Equip a Greataxe and charge it's Warcry R2 fully. If you time it right, you'll be able to absorb a few hits and still land your attack.
Think of it like having infinite poise for a brief moment of time.
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>still no increased drop rate on covenant items
Looks like I'll never get all the trophies boys
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>>335689990
>Yes, walk up to her after scaling a ladder that takes a bare modicum of inquisitiveness, taking a stroll across rafters the breadth of three large men, juking a goon or two and finally dealing with a bunch of enemies with as much clout as a bowl of sentient porridge

None of that shit needs to be removed.
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>>335690960
See
>>335690692
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There goes my magic character I wanted to fucking make. Cant you gook fucks adjust the damage lightning bolt does above pitiful?
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>>335687264
nerf soul stream how? that shit can't track, rip magic
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>>335690624
I thought he was playing on professor sad or something now
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>Still impossible to find a weapon with more than a C scaling
>Still no Dark weapons
>Still impossible to do anything about R1 spam with straight weapons
>Hyper armor still in the game instead of poise.
>Blues can still be hurt by world enemies.
>All three blue covenants still havent been merged into one.


wew lad
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>>335690545
A section of your attack frames that ignores stun, though not damage.
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>>335690717
>From fixing their borked online
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>>335690692
>>335691082
It's almost as if challenge and discovery is part of this game or something. At this point, I think you're arguing just to argue.
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Oh baby I hope they enlarged the hitbox on muh Guts sword and buffed its unusable weapon skills. Attack speed up would also be welcome since poise doesn't mean dick now and I get staggered every time someone dickslaps me mid-swing. They should have another patch that puts the Abyss watcher cape on all armor sets.
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>>335691270
>poise is good meme
give me ONE reason
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>>335691410
Fuck off DS2 fanboy
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>>335691410
It gives armors and an entire stat a reason to exist while also helping slower weapons
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>>335685646
From nerf DEX pls
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>>335690692
None of it's any harder than McDonnell's Crocdogs, even if you fight them separately. Let's remove those too.

>>335690692
>And it is fairly easy to miss the drop down point.

Do you enjoy taking imbeciles into consideration? Have you recently recovered from a stroke?
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>>335691518
>the best stat across 4 games
>getting nerfed ever
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>>335691508
hold up, how the fuck does giving everyone poise help slow weapons? Are you an idiot?

the way it is right now only heavy weapons benefit from hyper armor, which I assure you is better than straight swords being unflinchable
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>>335688860
NO, YOU WILL ADJUST YOUR BUILD THE WAY I WANT YOU TO, OTHERWISE IT'S JUST WRONG, AND YOU WILL LIKE IT
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>>335691508
surely light weapons will benefit more from an overall poise stat because they can afford to wear heavier armor

do you even know what hyper armor does
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>>335685646
it just me or when i'm in Lothric Castle the fps goes down?
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Whats the best sheild?

Also fuck these goatmen pyromancer fags in smouldering lake
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>>335691508
Poise does the exact opposite of helping slow weapons YOU FUCKING RETARDS

YOU FUCKING DIPSHITS DIDNT EVEN PLAY DARK SOULS 1

IF YOU SWING YOUR HEAVY WEAPON IN A GAME WITH POISE YOU WILL GET BACKSTABBED 100% OF THE TIME, NO QUESTION

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK EVERY BUILD IN DAS1 JUST STACKED POISE? POISE LITERALLY RENDERS HEAVY WEAPONS BEYOND USELESS

why the fuck do you assholes act like you know how these games work?
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>>335691638
>big guy with big weapon gets trapped in a longsword blender gangbang
>can't do anything because he can't rev up his big sword fast enough to cleave their assholes
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>>335691346

Are you thick? Did you even read the first sentence where I clearly said I wasn't complaining about difficulty? I was pointing out how fucking stupid "you just walk up to her" was.

I don't even think it needs to be changed because hidden shit is fun and anyone who gives a shit has googled it by now, but don't lie to me by saying it's obvious where to go or that it's even there. The entire design of the roof area takes you to the back of the room, you fight some items, and a new player would assume that was the reason he went up there.
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>>335691729
Hyper armor needs to be buffed anyway, it doesn't work half the time
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>>335688314
>another red crying about being ganked
i swear to god these never get old
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>>335691596
With every new entry the series has attracted more people and become more casual.

Yet here you are. Complaining on a Vietnamese surfing board about a patch note that says "easing requirements to join covenant."

You kill me anon.
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>>335691848

You fight some knights and collect some items, even.
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>>335691596
>Let's remove those too.
I know you're joking, but FUCK those crocdogs.
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>>335685646
man i just finished the game with vordt's great hammer

FUCKING PUT IN SOME WEAPONS PEOPLE WANT TO USE YOU TARDS
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>>335691823
>big guy with big weapon doesn't give himself enough distance to get hit midswing maximum
>this is somehow the games fault
Not only that but a lot of r2 two handed attacks start hyper armor super early, to let your dumb ass absorb all that damage with your face
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>>335691410
Because medium armour is pointless beyond fashion.

>>335691638
>how the fuck does giving everyone poise help slow weapons?
Because then someone in heavy armour with a heavy weapon has the chance to wind up.
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>>335691508
Its called defence

But hey, guess what, high defence armors just buff dex weapons and nerfs heavy weapons, just like how poise makes heavy weapons unplayable and buffs dex weapons
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So did they fix the sword master bug? I've been making fresh characters and early killing dancer in case they patch it out.
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>>335691923
Stephen quit being a faggot.
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>>335691960
They have a chance to wind up now because of fucking hyper armor you dumb sack of shit. Bad players like you getting r1 spammed to death need to shut the fuck up about game mechanics
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my fps is all fukt now
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>>335690883
Why not just online for them?
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>>335689412
>The UGS though, holy shit
Delaying R2s make people fuck up their rolls. Feels gud.
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>>335691596
>None of it's any harder than McDonnell's Crocdogs, even if you fight them separately. Let's remove those too.
>Do you enjoy taking imbeciles into consideration? Have you recently recovered from a stroke?

>I'm not even saying it's hard
> I was pointing out how fucking stupid "you just walk up to her" was.
>I'm not even saying it's hard
> I was pointing out how fucking stupid "you just walk up to her" was.

How can I even respond to you when you have this strange disease that causes you to skip the first sentence of each post? How can any one man learn to read English without simultaneously learning to _understand_ English?
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>>335692141
He mentioned trophies, make an educated guess.
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>>335691817

Two handed UGS attacks did 76 poise in das1. All they need to do is make big weapons deal fuck huge amount of poise like 100 so that wouldn't happen.

Most people in das1 didn't stack poise that high. Only full havels wolf ringers could.
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>>335692141
A lot of covenants are bugged. If you're not getting constant action, you'll get no action ever.
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>>335691681
1v1 me on Dragon Barracks fgt
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>>335691960
I guess we should reward bad players starting a heavy attack right infront of their opponent, that'd make for a fun game

hyper armor is great and you're silly if you think poise would in any way improve anything
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No one BS'd in DS1 unless they were bad players or were fighting japs. Once the community figured out how shit worked, it just didn't happen

But keep crying about how much you love hyper armor. Its only proving how uneducated you are on the subject matter
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>>335689412
Whats a UGS?
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>>335691270
>>Still impossible to find a weapon with more than a C scaling

?

I'm in the road of sacrifices wielding a B/B quality sword anon, what are you doing?
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>>335692273
ultra greatswords
>>335689412
you can backstep away from the second swing of heavy weapons
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>>335692120
>hyper armor
As a spear user I use to enjoy poking them as they miss their swings. Hyper armour stops that.
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WHY ARE MIRACLES STILL UTTERLY FUCKING USELESS GOD DAMMIT
>60 in faith
>also need to invest in atunment
>use 3 THREE FUCKING RINGS that boost miracles
>throw a slow-ass great lightning spear with a +10 catalyst
>do the same damage of a single longsword hit
They were never good, but fuck, they are unusable this time around
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>>335691848
>I was pointing out how fucking stupid "you just walk up to her" was.

So yeah, arguing just to argue. You've been told by other people that it should stay the same as well. You're not arguing for anything anymore, just arguing for arguing's sake. Arguing just because of a word choice. You may wish to have your autism checked out, anon. Even you said in yoru own words that difficulty isn't the problem and you said that "hidden shit is fun". So yes, you aren't arguing anything except word choice.

Watch this, I can be a pedantic non-arguer as well. It's easy.

>Yes, walk up to her after taking the elevator in the shortcut that leads to the roofs containing several assassins, hollows, and knights; drop down on the hidden platform below; and finally walk through a rain of mangrubs.

This quote clearly implies that getting to the area is a challenge and now you are backpedaling. Yet, you say challenge is good? And then you say newer players might miss it, but discovery is good and people can just look it up anyways? And now you don't think it needs to be changed? I'm not sure you know what you're typing anymore. Are you pretending to be retarded or what?
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>>335692214
Man, within the context of a series of games that has always been centered around exploration, the short detour to Rosaria's chamber can be succinctly described as "you just walk up to her."
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>keyboard controls are still fucked
nice dude nice i really like it nice dude nice
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>>335692224
>No one stacked poise

Jesus christ man. You won, you broke me. Im just glad from will never listen to dipshits like you
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>>335692358
you can poke them in windup, hell you can probably afford to poke them and roll away as they rev up their second swing
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Best DS1 player in the world here

I liked poise

at least then we had a system where we knew what was going on --- now we have a stat and a handful of guesses of its effects. My guess is that poise is a multiplying factor of some sort for armor frames but who knows

Also, endurance and str should give a little bit of equip load on each level and vitality should give slightly more --- it takes 4 levels to nullify the weight of a bow or sidearm, that's a pretty steep investment compared to anything else. Though it is nice that people can't try to squeeze on havel's under fat roll but making it impossible short of lvl 300 might have been a bit much
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>>335692415
Its balanced around going full caster or going full melee. You don't really get to have best of both worlds.
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>>335692268
>No one BS'd in DS1 unless they were bad players or were fighting japs
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>335692482
This meme is old
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Is the patch out now?
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>>335692358
Oh man, a fucking spear user complaining about heavy weapons

What a joke this community is
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>>335692531
>60 fth
Nigga I am full caster, it isn't balanced at all, it just sucks
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>>335687840
Vit also has no diminishing returns so at 99 it'd be a fucking laugh. Seeing as passwords seem to delete soul level altogether with the joiner getting nerfed if they are a higher level I reckon there won't really be a soul level meta down the line. atm fight clubs are "12" on password, dunno about Co-op yet.
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Did this already happened or what i thought i had 1.04 for like 2 weeks now
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>>335687264

>nerfing the only viable spells
This is why nobody should listen to dex fags.
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>>335692653
Dunno man, I'm getting 1200 damage on my fireballs.

Sounds like you'e holding the lightning the wrong way
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>>335692415
You're better off just leveling it to 15 and then going dex/str/quality. 15 gets you med heal, status ailment cure, and poor mans second chance and then you got a 30 level difference to get the high level shit and any worthwhile damage, not really worth it
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When will they need buffed rapier great shield turtling?
Because dead angles no longer exist, there is literally no counter for this.
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>>335692531
Which leads into the first point he made about having 60 faith. From simply hates lightning spears. They are absolutely useless. Of course you'd expect a miracle to perform better if you go full caster, but that doesn't mean castrating the person who wants to supplement their arsenal with some lightning spears and in the process ruin it for everyone else.
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>>335692528
>im a das1 player
>i liked a brain dead mechanic that required no thought and retroactivly made 80% of the weapons death sentences to swing

Seems about right
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>>335692749

>I'm getting 1200 on the only spell that people agree is still good.

No shit. Why don't you go and try lightning spearing someone right now?
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>>335692653
Magic is ok if you get both sorcery rings, magic clutch ring, dusk crown and scholar's candlestick in offhand
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>1.04

Thought that released weeks ago?
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>>335692749
the lightning is pretty underwhelming unless it's sunlight spear with a max talisman and booster rings
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>>335692791
Is 18 fth worth it for the dragonslayer swordspear or is the weapon bad?
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>>335692749
>fireballs
Well there you go. Miracles are useless, pyromancy is not. Most pyro spells don't even require stats.
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