>shit story with hamfisted religious shit all over the place
>lothric is an extremely boring place
>more linear than dark souls 2
>half as much content as dark souls 2
>boss fights somehow manage to be worse than dark souls 2's dudes in armor
>dark souls 2 had more and more varied environments
>dark souls 2 felt distinct from dark souls 1, rather than being a watered down version with shitty lore
It just needs a a lot of balancing through patches, and it would be good IMO.
>>335655501
>hamfisted religious shit
come again
>lothric boring
>boss fights worse
agree to disagree
>>335655501
>DkS3 is literally an athiest's wet dream
having religions in your game is not equal to shitting on all religions in a ham fisted attempt to make a point
NO CONTENT
>>335655501
>>more linear than dark souls 2
>>half as much content as dark souls 2
These are the biggest problems. My first playthrough of 2 took me around 70 hours. My first playthrough of 3 only took me 33.
>>335655501
Don't forget it is clearly the afterbirth of Bloodbourne, being the same engine, sharing many of the same assets and animations and having less content (and a far less interesting world) than Bloodbourne.
I agree with just about everything but the first one, what the fuck is so religious about it? are you talking about the crosses in the swamp area? if you are you're a god damn retard
>>335658248
that's definately bait, but it is true that a third of the game is fighting nothing but monks and pontiff/aldritch's servants in temples and cathedrals
>tfw PC will never get a soulsbourne game that has the brilliantly executed lovecraftian setting of bloodbourne
>>335658442
>fuck around a cathedral
>surprised there are monks and shit
>>335655501
>t. B-team
>Playing DS for the story
LOL
>>335655501
dark souls 1 was linear too
how was it not linear?
>>335658665
they put even more shockwaves in this time!
>>335655501
>thinking the corrupted abyss/deep people are MUH RELIGIOUS HAMFISTEDNESS
Are you retarded or something
>bait thread
Here, have a map for comparison.
>>335659305
Now post a DaS chart.
>>335659550
Not pictured in the 3 Chart is that Profaned Capital leads back to the High Wall, IIRC.
>>335658681
For sure
Settlement > Parish > Darkroot > Drakes > Blighttown > Fortress > Anor Londo > Grind up to 120 and dick around for a while before quitting again, since everything after this point is bad
>>335659305
That map doesn't matter if you are required to go down a linear path for the first playthrough (with a whole 2 moments of temporary branching).
>>335659640
And 2.
>>335659710
And Blood Farts.
>>335659305
>>335659640
>>335659710
>>335659854
>that pathetic ds3 map
I knew it was linear but I didn't realize it was that bad
>>335659854
There is no box one with Demon's Souls, nor no unified map I can find, sadly.
Take all 4 of these with a grain of salt, though, as they're partitioned by area name change.
Which happens a LOT in Bloodborne, 1, and 2.
>>335659854
This is truly a shit map.
>>335660019
I just used the box maps. There's no full map of DS3 yet, none of Demon, DS1 is buried on the Internet and would take ~20 minutes to find, and DS2 is... somewhere.
Here's the properly laid out Bloodborne map.
>>335660129
This is actually much better. Thank you.
>>335657691
My first playthrough of 2 took 12 hours, my first on 3 took 23 hours.
According to your logic, DaS3 has double the content.
>>335660129
>Only 11 big names
>>335659305
>19 big names
While the areas themselves are probably smaller, that would imply Bloodborne is ~the same size as DS3 in terms of map size.
>>335659710
>>335655501
Longer doesn't mean better. All of the areas in 2 were uninspired and boring.
>>335658601
kek
>>335660224
That would be a fine point if you weren't lying to create an argument.
>>335659680
>>335659987
You can branch off starting from High Wall of Lothric.
You can do High Wall -> Lothric Castle or High Wall -> Consumed King's Garden or High Wall -> Undead, and from those places you can backtrack or keep going to any other available place, and so on all the way down to the end of the game.
The only thing you have to do in a specific order is Cemetery -> Firelink -> Part of High Wall.
>>335660408
I'd just finished DaS1 for the umpteenth time and ran through DaS2 without dying more than a handful of times with a 2h build and no armor.
For DaS3 I hadn't played a Souls game since the first week of Bloodborne. I died a lot more, especially because my first character started off as a Sorc and I stubbornly tried to make it work before swapping to 2h.
Working on my second playthrough as a Quality build with a rapier and I'm 6 hours in, maybe, and just finished my third Lord.
>>335660437
You're probably not going to branch until NG+ though, as I can't imagine trying Lothric castle right after high wall on a fresh character.
>>335659710
Most area of DS2 is huge empty space with enemy, its not compacted as DS3 and takes century for backtracking or finding secret spot
>>335660850
Dancer's not that tough if you bring some charcoal resin and use Sword Master to help, but you've got to really work on that rolling to make it work.
Did it on my second playthrough that way. Died a few times due to bad rolls, but eventually got it.
>>335655501
>dark souls 2 felt distinct from dark souls 1, rather than being a watered down version with shitty lore
But that's exactly what Dark Souls 2 was. You're being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. You're an overall biased and bad person.
>>335660437
Except that if you go to Lothric Castle at the start you're cockblocked at the dragonslayer and can't enter the archives until beating all the lords causes the key to arbitrarily appear.
In DaS, assuming you have the master key, from the very beginning of the game you have access to the burg, the catacombs (but not the tomb), New Londo, the valley of the drakes and thus darkroot basin and Blighttown, which also gives you access to the parish, the depths, the great hollow, and ash lake. All of those areas available to you without needing to beat a single boss outside of the Asylum Demon.
DaS3 you start at Firelink and teleport to the High Wall. From there you can go to Lothric Castle (but only half of it) or the Garden, or beat Vordt to go to the Settlement. The Settlement connects to the Road of Sacrifices, which connects to the Cathedral and Farron Keep. The Cathedral doesn't connect to anything, Farron Keep goes straight to the Catacombs, which connect to the Lake and Irithyll. The Lake doesn't connect to anything, Irithyll connects to Anor Londo and the dngeon. Anor Londo doesn't connect to anything, the dungeon can teleport you to Archdragon Peak, and connects to the capital, which both don't connect to anything else. Then you get to go back to the Castle and do the rest of it.
You're fucking delusional if you think that DaS3 has anywhere near the level of freedom that 1 offered. The maps are evidence enough: >>335659305 >>335659640
>>335659640
>Profaned Capital leads back to the High Wall, IIRC.
You do not remember correctly.
>DaS2 subhumans at it again
Give it up, you're never going to convince anyone.
>>335655501
Is that dog ok?
>>335658547
Funny, I know a dude who sold his BB copy because of that.
DS3 doesn't have any of the few good things from DS2 that DS2 did right.
>power stance
>ascetics
>gothic set
>op mace
>ugs launching people sky high
>>335660787
No shit. I can speedrun 2 now and skip half of the game, but thay doesn't mean it has less content.
>>335661295
Ate a box of chocolate so they gave it ipecac or something to make it throw up. The vet called its owner a cuck, so the dog intentionally missed the barf sheet and up chucked 3x more than anyone could have anticipated. It's perfectly happy healthy as last reported by the owner (who never did conform or deny being a cuck).
>>335661324
>>ugs launching people sky high
You can do that with stomp though.
>>335661160
Wasn't arguing against DaS1, as it clearly has more of a free form to it (although many of those areas are soft locked around high damage sponges)
>>335661469
Good.
>TFW my friends brother didn't realize chocolate was poisonous to dogs and just thought you shouldn't give it to them so they don't get fat
>He's 10 years older than me.
>>335655501
>shit story with hamfisted religious shit all over the place
>>335661551
>(although many of those areas are soft locked around high damage sponges)
Like Lothric Castle and the Garden would be if you went straight to them? If you're not trying to argue against it then don't make a shitty argument against it that falls through compared to DaS3 as well.
>>335661087
Dark Souls 2 feels like a cheap Chinese knockoff that only copied Dark Souls 1 on a superficial level. DS3 manages to feel more like DS1 but fucked up all the few improvement DS2 managed to do.
>>335661274
Who are you quoting?
>>335661324
All the weapons with Stomp can launch people.
For your OP mace, Dragon Tooth is the best Str weapon in the game.
Fuck Gothic Set.
I'll give you power stance, though. That shit was pretty awesome, and even though the "double" weapons are KINDA like power stance, they're just not the same.
I'll also give you ascetics. They were pretty cool.
>>335661551
Dude, chill out. My argument was that DaS3 is not as linear as you bitches are complaining about. You can do the first three lords in any order you want, and you have tons of opportunity to do the other bosses in whichever order you want.
Dark Souls 3 is a pretty good sequel to a game that has no business having sequels. I enjoy it, but it never had any chance of being as good as the first.
>>335661617
Fuckin'. Too drunk to respond correctly. Second part of this fucking thing.
>>335661853
>>335660994
Wow, mods actually doing its job.
Is the online for DaS1 still dead?
>tfw after like 5 years only managed to get to Anor Londo
