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WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY
>>335464885
Yeah
>>335464937
Lets have a go ya mug
>all bosses in all-range mode
>alternate paths lead to a fraction of what the main paths' levels are with one exception
>only one ending. no variations depending on which path you took
>very little variety compared to 64
>the gyrowing ruining one and a half levels
I'm enjoying it.
But who was the dumbass that decided to get rid of the radar in all-range mode? Why would you do that?
>star fox 64's methods of unlocking new levels
>save falco and fly through the arches
>destroy 100 enemies in sector y
>shoot the eight switches and then the switcher to redirect the forever train to it's doom
>Beat all members of star wolf before the bomb explodes
>go for the four hatches on the underside thereby revealing the core to destroy it
>take out the mysterious robot before slippy gets slapped down to titania
>go through the rings to access a warp
>shoot the gates in repeated succession to access a warp
>defend the great fox from missles coming it's way
>shoot down all of the searchlights, don't miss a single one
>star fox zero's methods of unlocking new "levels"
>fly into the portal
>lock onto a star wolf member
>beat wolf alone before he has a chance to slap peppy down to titania
>>335465571
But flying into the portal unlocks 4 other missions, you need to count that ass hole
>>335465825
And they're all smaller and re-using locations from the full-sized missions.
Also
>implying just flying into the portal is a challenge at all
>>335465571
I haven't played through the whole game yet, but are there any alternate levels that are actually levels and not boss battles/short missions?
>>335466131
There's one. Everything else is just a boss/short mission
>>335464885
What unlocks when you beat arcade mode?
>>335466410
sound test. with some models for you to look at too
>>335466410
sound test.
>>335466509
>>335466497
Oh, then what unlocks if you collect all medals? That's disappointing especially withno Krystal model
>>335465956
What's the full mission for asteroid field?
>>335466732
The black arwing and retro arwing.
You don't even need amiibo.
>>335466732
The Classic Arwing and Black Arwing become permanent unlocks.
>>335466787
IT'S FUCKING SPACE. A SHITTON OF MISSIONS TAKE PLACE IN IT.
>>335466913
So all space missions are the same? Asteroid field was pretty significant in SF64
>>335464885
It's a mediocre game but I guess Wii U owners are desperate for anything at this point until they get their hands on Zelda U.
>>335467252
Which will finally feature sword Gyro controls
>>335467465
Aiming arrows with gyro controls isn't bad.
>tfw the only good review is by a guy who actually completed the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xagzb0g8NY
The worst part of Starfox Zero is that it's almost a fantastic game. Wrestling with the controls, and some bad design decisions aside, it's still Starfox, which is all it needed to be great. That said, some of the actor's delivery is fucking awful.
The motion controls aren't actually too bad, but the gyroscope desyncs all the damn time, so I don't understand why they didn't turn on the auto sync option by default.
Can't wait to see how Nintendo fuck up Zelda U though.
Andross did nothing wrong
What I don't understand is the need for Gyro controls. You could have easily control the ship and shoot with traditional dual stick controls.
How is Guard?
I don't mind the controls or anything of the sort.
The one thing that bothers me is the fucking inability to change the sound settings.
The voices only comming through the gamepad is stupid, the sound effects for the lasers and the boost echoing through the gamepad makes it impossible to hear the music half the time. and the fact that I can't change or turn off any of these is the dumbest shit imaginable.
>>335469913
>yfw he's now racist against dog people.
>>335468632
>sword gyro controls
>aiming arrows
Nigga what?
>>335470161
That cover is CUTE
>>335470438
Makes you question why he hired Wolf
>>335470161
>Slippy Toad has his own spin off title before (insert whatever Nintendo character we cry about here)
>>335470438
Dogs are racist against monkeys.
And frogs are racist against birds.
Also the game isn't complete but the good parts are good. It's a shame they rushed this.
>>335470161
Aces
If you have a stylus
Why is Slippy's voice so cute in Star Fox Zero?
I'm pretty sure it's the same voice actress that he had in Star Fox 64, but for some reason he sounds way cuter in this game.
>>335470704
Except you don't play as Slippy you play as your Mii
Slippy is just your mentor
>that face when you need these guys of you in the first level
>tfw Slippy swoops in to save the day
Anyone know how to get the last medal on Fichina? The guide I'm using says to defeat Leon but he has never shown up there for me. I got all the rings, hit par, blew up the bosses legs, and got the accomplished already
>>335470846
>Titana
>have to starff past the falling pillars
>Slippy does his best Peppy impression
>DO A BARREL ROLL
i know we complain about the memes but that was cute
R&C:
>$40
>good amount of gameplay-per-dollar
>high production values. Pixar level Graphics
>great controls
>is a faithful but more ambitious re-creation of its source material
>good graphics
>8-14 hours of content (100% included)
Star Fox Zero:
>$60
>Lol 3 hours cinematic experience (100% included)
>goofy motion controls
>follows Star Fox 64 so slavishly it almost feels like a remaster
>looks like an upscaled Wii game
>gimmicky second screen feature cuts the resolution in half, and sometimes the framerate
>Voices comes from the controller, which makes half the shit of what the character's say incomprehensible in a fight.
>>335471148
I can tell you haven't played the fucking game.
>Follows Star fox 64 so slavishly
Oh how I wish that was the case
>>335471148
>3 hours 100% included
You can just say you haven't played the game
>>335471321
A legitimate Star Fox 64-2 would be a godsend.
If there are any indie devs reading this thread, make a god damn rail shooter and I'll shower you with dosh. There just isn't enough of them.
>>335464885
Its basically Star Fox 64 with better controls, less content, and worse bosses.
>>335471467
It's not basically star fox 64, it has so much more bad going for it than just what you listed.
>>335471140
>You get to play as Peppy and he's just a weird old man who mutters "BARREL ROLL" to himself every time he performs one
I thought I was going to cringe whenever it came up, but that shit is great.
>>335464885
It's pretty fucking good. Don't get the hate with the controls, they work great, and I don't even like motion controls.
>>335471547
I'd say the controls are a bit worse than the original if only because tilting the ship is on the right stick. Unintentional u-turns and loops all day long.
Also the bosses are worse and there's less content than 64.
>>335471701
>mfw Slippy and Falco's banters in Fortuna
>General Pepper's fuck the countdown fire the lasers.
There seriously needed more of these banters.
>>335471546
>jagged low-res water
Oh, how far we've come from Mario Sunshine.
>>335471546
B-B-B
excuse me i have to go finish off this meme boner
>>335470161
Guard is the game Miyamoto wanted to make but he was forced to do Star Fox Zero instead
>>335471915
The gyrowing was also his retarded idea.
>>335471701
Espesially sense there are so many lasers flying around in that level you have to be in a CONSTANT state of BARREL ROLL
>>335469913
>General Pepper banished Andross into another fucking dimension
Now I know Andross is evil as fuck, but isn't that a little...extreme?
>>335471760
>mfw you get pigma to half life and he litteraly tells you to fuck off
>>335472084
It's heavily implied that Pepper is actually the bad guy.
>>335472051
Nice picture of yourself anon but this isn't /soc/
>>335471915
If Guard was released instead of Zero, do you think there would be as much fan butthurt as Federation Force got?
>Oh wow, that gyrowing looks slow as molasses. I'm sure it won't be that bad though, this is gonna be the best star fox ever
>my face when actually playing with it
>>335471968
Why does everyone hate this vechile
Sure it's a little slower but it's so smooth and handles great
I don't mind the slower pace as the level it's self was clever
>>335472242
personally I think the reception would be way worse. Considering it has been 10 years since Star Fox Command. While Other M has been 5 or 6?
>>335472332
Because it grinds the pace of the game to a screeching halt and Zoness is 'nothing happens' the level. Even when they rehash this level in the Arwing it's still completely shit.
It's a complete waste of time. The Blue Marine was light years ahead of this.
>>335472242
Oh absolutely
Even though it's a good game
It's one of those damned if you do damned if you don't kinda things
>>335472332
>I don't mind the slower pace
>Sure it's a little slower
>a little slower
>it's so smooth and handles great
>the level it's self was clever
>CLEVER
How do I avoid following pigma on the asteroid level?
>>335471701
I loved that stage so much. Short and sweet. Reminded me of the beginning of star wars VII when they stole the tie fighter and fucked up the star destroyer canons.
>>335472469
Grinds the pace of otherwise smashing into enemies at high velocity to a halt yo say
It was a nice breather from the norm
>mfw I had to use the invincible mode for Aquarosa
THAT FIGHT IS BULLSHIT
>>335472680
don't press ZL.
>>335472680
I don't think he shows up on the copypaste asteroid levels.
But if you don't want to follow anyone that shows up randomly, don't target them and they just fuck off.
>>335472680
Kill him
Dew it
>>335472780
waitasec.
Where's the invincibility mode? I haven't seen it at all.
>>335472772
That sounds like a personal problem if you're smashing into enemies all the time.
It was a horrible idea and easily the worst level in the game. Even worse than the level where Peppy fights a Star Destroyer for 90 seconds.
>>335472851
it only happens when you're terrible at the game.
I never encountered it once.
>>335472780
just stay out of range of the shield and get gud at aiming, your lasers have enough distance to shoot the targets from outside the shield's range.
>>335472780
It's tough, but there are some tips to try that'll help beat it.
>laser upgrade first laser gun to the left
>save bombs until the other guns show up
>do a quick swoop, bomb and uturn for those
That's how I got past it.
>>335472664
At least it wasn't anxiety the level like
>>335472654
>>335472851
It's like the super kong thing in DKCR, you die a lot and they give you an optional invincibility power up. It doesn't record your score if you use it though.
>>335473031
I love that level.
>Falco's reaction to you shooting the bug off of his ship
>>335472780
Honestly, 90% of that boss' difficulty comes from the fact that you can't turn off the auto lock-on during the fight. Now that I've played through a few times I've gotten a lot better at dealing with the camera and responding appropriately.
This game seems to have a lot of things like that, minor annoyances that make things needlessly difficult.
>>335472918
Why does this game look so bad in screenshots?
>>335473209
slippy please
>>335473291
I wonder if it's possible for one of those to stick to peppy...
>>335473259
Almost all Wii U games looks like ass in screenshots.
>>335473209
>hiding a power up immediately BEHIND your starting point
Oh nintendo naughty naughty
>>335473259
Because that's what the game looks like.
>>335473259
Nintendo games always have a habit of that for some reason. I remember back in 2002 before Super Mario Sunshine came out, the screenshots looked like trash, but once we saw the game in motion we realized it looked gorgeous.
I like the gyrowing but it feels like it should be in another game instead of Star Fox. I'd love see it in some sort of big adventure game
>>335464885
I got it for free, and the only thing I hate is the somewhat forced cockpit segments.
Also, this game would've been great with some sort of multiplayer.
>>335473695
Yeah, it was only me left when fighting that giant spider bot.
>>335473792
When your teammates get taken out, are they absent for the next level like they were in Star Fox 64?
>>335469483
Without the extra stimulation your brain gets from wrestling with the new control scheme I think the game would be a lot blander.
>>335473792
I don't get what was shooting them. I fought that thing 3-4 time and they kept getting killed by something, but the run where I finally beat it they barely got hurt at all.
>>335473946
They're back in the level if I remember correctly.
>>335473617
What is the co-op function
I curious. Can Peppy actually be shot down by Pigma in Sector Beta considering Wolf needs him around for the failstate of the mission? Or does Pigma shoot him down to Titania if he succeeds?
>>335474734
How do you get that star shaped cursor?
>>335474103
Co-op is actually really fun if you enjoy the game. Me and my friends have been having a blast.
64>Starfox 1>Assault multiplayer>Adventures>Assault campaign>Guard>Starfox 2>Command>Zero
>>335474846
I have no idea.
>>335471968
>>335472332
The gyrowing is good because it slows the game down giving you time to git good at the controls. Everything is slow and steady so you can focus on your aiming and different viewpoints.
Notice how you skip the gyro wing missions on the next play through.
>>335474846
It's shows up when you have the motion control set to work when you shoot. When you shoot it turns into the star to let you know that the motion control is active.
>>335472332
protip: nobody wants to play as a robot with shitty tank controls straight out a 1996 survival horror game and hack computer panels in fucking Starfox
>>335475429
Oh, I figured it was some kind of unlockable laser. Surely you're always shooting or charging, so I don't really get how that mode is supposed to make the motion control more bearable.
>spend a mission protecting the gigarilla from Andross
>it still shows up later
Why
The gyrowing is shit but at least Direct-I is cute.
>>335475826
LOCK DE-ACTI-VATED!
>>335475191
that's some really nice water
All this game needed was more levels like Sector Omega and Corneria 2 and it would have been perfect. I can't believe didn't just reuse levels and assets to pump out an extra 2-3 rehashed levels with new enemy locations? Wasn't that the entire reason for their portal gimmick?
Like, honestly, it's so simple. Imagine Fortuna at night, with tougher nocturnal enemies, more vines, lower vision, and an organic version of the spider boss you fight on Fichina, with a few new moves designed to challenge Arwings?
Or an Arwing Titania mission during a sandstorm, where you need to dodge flying pillars and boulders while flying at top speed?
Or Corneria with a Landmaster?
Or a standalone Venom mission that replicates the Deathstar run, complete with Wolf chasing you like Darth Vader?
Or Area 3 at top speed, flying all the way around the halo station in a complete loop with repeating buildings and structures, but more crazy obstacles in your path while you tail Pigma?
Like, I feel like this is the one type of game where you not only have permission to rehash levels, but are almost EXPECTED to extend the longevity of the game through cheaper means? I just don't understand where the extra 5 months of development went, when they could have so easily just taken their already established mechanics, enemy types and maps, and just went crazy with the amount of alternate missions? And then half the missions are still in space (IE, black voids), or all range mode arenas? Where did all the level designers go?
I'm just worried about if it sold well enough for a sequel
I wonder if we will see a sequel anytime in the near future or if we will have to wait another decade for a reboot. The critical slamming it's getting makes me think the latter.
I had my fun with it. The controls started getting to me in the Andross fight though. For some reason I had trouble with the walker form.
Honestly, I think the gyro controls are clever for the arwing parts. Everything else just felt meh in comparison.
I had a good laugh in the end though.
>Andross fight
>"Man this camera angle is weird to tell where the lasers are"
>If only I can look in fron-
>Looks down at gamepad
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH DUUH
I felt stupid.
>>335477465
I really did like the two different views. The extra involvement it brings having to check both screens at certain points was fun for me
>>335472150
It's strange how all those implications mean absolutely nothing in the end.
I personally think that Pepper was going to be some sort of alternate final boss, but got cut out for whatever reason. That could explain why there's only one Andross fight.
Guys I'm seriously on the fence about buying this. Is it worth $60?
>>335471968
On my first playthrough the gyrowing level wit hthe generators or whatever was my best level with the highest score and most collectibles which is ironic.
>>335471148
>Implying there's only 3 hours of gameplay
>Implying the point wasn't to make it a star fox 64 remake
>Implying the devs adding a second camera affects the game in any way
>Implying you can't disable the voices from the controller on the start menu so they come from the TV
>Implying you can't hear the controller voices.
Have you even played the game, let alone saw a video on it?
>>335477156
Okay, I just finished the Great Fox mission, and this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Reusing theFortuna bosswas not only a cool surprise, but a fun fight with a new twist. The game should have done shit like this a dozen more times.
If they make a sequel, Krystal is practically guaranteed to be in it.
How do you feel about that?
>>335478202
>disable the voices from the controller on the start menu
How?
>>335473259
using the Wii U screenshot feature turns off AA
>>335478515
I don't give a shit, zero has present a bunch of other problems for us to worry about other than some pity character
>>335472242
The bitching would never end.
The last 5 days on /v/ have been the Wii U launch on /v/ all over again.
This game is dope.
I've honestly been playing for 3 days straight now and I haven't enjoyed myself this much in ages.
>>335471148
>Star Fox
>Hasn't had a good game in 15 years
>Ratchet and Clank
>Has double the amount of Star Fox game, let alone good ones
>Over saturated as fuck
>Budget title that is dying off
Yeah nah, $60 for the quality title 10 times out of 10.
>>335472332
I didn't mind it until I had to get all the zoness medals. Holy shit I never wanted to kill myself more in my life
>Try to take out the guns on Androsa with the missiles like in the anime short
>It actually works and gives you extra hits
Neat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKd0qhZKWIE
The scoring mechanics look pretty damn solid.
>>335478691
I use capture card, btw.
>>335479453
I'll take that back, then.
I don't mind how the game looks.
I will give nintendo shit for the slowdown issues.
I haven't really noticed any fps drops, but the slowdown is pretty bad at times.
>>335479401
>he even says the same line in response
>>335479401
>>335479698
No fucking way. Gonna try this shit out right now.
>>335478691
Only too bad the game dosent have any Post Processing at all
>>335478515
Pretty damn excited, considering all the haters got their shit shoved in for good since Zero fizzled and she wasn't even there to "ruin" it, and if they bring her back she'll probably get a ton of prerelease hype like Dixie did with Tropical Freeze. I'm not even looking forward to Krystal herself so much as eager to see the resulting butthurt.
At the end of the day, though, the sequel is still going to suck if Nintendo doesn't add core elements back into the games, like (true) multiplayer.
>>335480193
To be perfectly honest with you, I don't see why she is so hated by most people. Is it because the games she's in are not that great, and thus people associate her with the downfall of the series?
>>335480425
The games she is in are not great, the writing her character gets isn't great, and her character concept isn't very good. She is popular despite all these things because people find her sexy. Thus, a character most people find to be emblematic of almost everything wrong with Star Fox.
>>335479453
>those jaggies
LOL
>>335479823
ok.
That's really cool.
>>335480425
For me, it was always because she was a character designed for a totally different story and it shows. She's listed as having "psychic powers," for fuck's sake.
She also dragged a lot of obnoxious romantic drama into the series.
>>335480425
I don't mind her in assault but her implementation in Adventures and Command is awful. Plus I think she looks pretty terrible, all blue and shit. I wouldn't be mad if she was back as long as she is characterized well and doesn't shoehorn in a romance sub plot. The director at Platinum said he would like to have her in a sequel so we'll see what happens.
>>335478515
>yfw Platinum makes her like pic related, added with Bayonettas outfit as an unlock
>>335471436
Already working on one, anon.
>>335481293
that boss is easily the worst part of the game
>>335481293
I played through this boss about three times and have gotten used to it but it's still so lame.
Here's a fun idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w2RMBrmTsk
See how long you last.
>>335482343
why would I watch a video that stars some elitist looking fat fuck?
>>335482343
I couldn't even click play.
>We have now played every little bit of Star Fox 2 in each game
>Except Miyu and Fay
God damnit
>>335482795
I really wish Star Fox 2 would get an official release on the eShop but I know it will never happen because of the FX chip copyrights.
Do you think that will ever get straightened out?
>>335482765
Because it boils down to
>Star Fox Zero is bad because the controls are bad
>Nintendo should stop trying new things with old established franchises
>Nintendo should stop forcing gimmicks like the GamePad
>Controls have been standardized for a reason (because of casual shitters like Jim Sterling)
>Lots more ranting for 10 minutes
>>335482985
Fuck, if Earthbound finally got its shit together and got not one, but TWO eshop releases, I think there is hope still for starfox.
>>335483035
Literally none of that is what's wrong with zero. this guy needs to get up and actually play the fucking game.
>>335469483
>The worst part of Starfox Zero is that it's almost a fantastic game.
The depressing truth. Maybe they'll get it right next time.
>>335483236
>Implying there will be a next time
After the lukewarm-at-best reception of this game, we are entering the second indefinite Star Fox hiatus.
>>335469483
Turn off always-on gryo
>>335483442
>lukewarm-at-best reception
Based on what, 4chan and "professional" reviewers?
Let's wait for some real news on how bad or good it did.
>>335483776
Stay in school, you'll learn to read eventually.
>these graphics
>in 2016
>>335483874
3rd place in the UK, though that's probably because they think Platinum fully developed the game
Corneria:
Easy route: Androssa (minus chickenwalker gimmick part)
Hard route: protect the cornerian ship
Sector a:
Straight shot, Same boss, blow up the reactor. Good place to learn chicken walk gimmick
Aquarossa:
Fight the boss
Area 3:
(Take out the gyrowing completely)
Easy route: Lose the Gigarilla (Drastically speed up the time)
Hard route: Stop Andross' forces from taking the gigarilla
Warp: Secret switches around the colony power up the telporter to Zoness, find them with the walker. make the warp like sector X where you have to survive to pass, and make it a top speed part
Zoness:
(Again no gyro copter)
Straight shot to Sector b make the escape a top speed to get out before self destruct
Sector b
Easy: Lose peppy to wolf
hard: Defeat star wolf
Solar (BECAUSE WHY WASNT THERE THE FUCKING SUN IN THE LYLAT SYSTEM.)
(Think of this one like macbeth's supply depot only with a solar meltdown or something)
easy: Fail to Destroy the bioweapon in time
Normal: Destroy the bioweapon
Hard: Adjust all pressure gauges to stop the meltdown (Shoot the 8 switches to open the lock)
Astroid field:
Straight shot, protect the great fox from cosmic dhora and drones
Sector y:
Easy route: Lose the great fox to the drones
Hard route: Stave off the missles before time
Fichina/Foruna/Titania: Same as is. straight shot to omega and venom.
Wolfen events still happen at respective locations
Salvadora still happens at Titania
Fuck Aquarosa.
>>335484608
This is somewhat difficult to follow
>>335484608
I think the star wolf fights should've just followed Leon's example in Fichina
IE. Just have them be a mandatory fight IN THE LEVEL. HAVE THEM BE ANOTHER PHASE.
>>335478515
I thought it was obvious enough that she wouldn't return after command.
>>335485121
Phases are fucking dumb. It works for bayonetta and wonderful `101, but not Starfox.
>Corneria phase 1
Good.
>Corneria phase 2
What the fuck is, this, why do I have to all range mode and aim at these bomb spiders with shitty gyro?
>Androssa
Good.
>Area 3 phase 1
good
>Area 3 phase 2.
what the fuck is this gyrowing shit nonsense i dont fucking care about direct i
>Zoness phase 1
KILL ME
>Zoness phase 2
okay
It horrribly drags out in arcade mode, it should just be Level - Boss Plain and simple, no shitty extra phases and nonsense
>controls suck
>Get GUD Nigga
Love those Nintendrones responses. IT'S OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT.
Sony on the other hand had less luck. They even patched out 4 years later, let's see if Nintendo will do that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w2RMBrmTsk
I Actually agree with the Fat fuck SJW for once.
>>335485832
Lair actually wasn't so bad when the controls were fixed. The base game had some cool moments, it's just the mandatory sixaxis stuff was broken
>>335484168
you can't accept the fact this game is just good enough eh?
Is there a rule in which wee have to shitpost any game involved with Platinum for the first few weeks?
How the fuck does anybody struggle with these easy controls? Aren't you guys supposed to be good at video games?
>>335486264
it's /v/ main rule for any game except Souls I guess
>>335464885
>It's shit.
>>335486163
It would be good if it wasnt so damn short, not to mention how the plot makes no fucking sense
>>335464885
>playing nintenshit
The controls aren't difficult.
They just aren't fun.
All range mode isn't as fun compared to the on-rail sections, and there are only a few in this game and ZERO bosses that are on-rails.
>>335486396
You literally can't shitpost Dark Souls 3 though. It's perfect
>>335485832
Sounds like you suck at video games, bud.
>>335486552
I'm having fun
>>335486835
I prefer sucking at games then Sucking Nintendo's cock dude
>>335486847
Liar
I'm not saddened by the game persay, but I'm upset at the sheer lack of bosses or memorable moments.
Every single stage in 64. Every single one had a boss. Granga, Attack carrier, Meteo crusher, Shogun, Mothership, Star wolf, Solar Bioweapon, Bacoon, Spyborg, Saurmarine, Mechbeth,.Ghoras, Super missle, Gorgon, Satalite Core, Golemech, Wolfen II, Andross, True Andross
Zero had:
Androssa, Aquarossa, Star Wolf, Scrapworm, Ghidhora, Mother Strider, Attack carrier, Gigarilla, Star wolf 2, Andross
Half the stages don't even have bosses OR satisfying ends.
Theres very little banter, and hell, half of the stages involve Fox "going it alone" through a portal, so whats the point of even having the rest of the crew?
>>335485421
The director of the game said he'd love to put Krystal in the sequel, and the fan demand for her is high; when the last Nintendo Direct happened, all of the comments on the Star Fox Zero trailer were "bring back Krystal!"
>>335486485
>Too damn short
Are you daft? It needs to be shorter
a 4 hour arcade mode run is brutal and annoying. 64 prospered so well because its entire gameplay run could be finished in under 40 minutes, and then replayed indefinitely.
>>335486938
>going with the most obvious response
You even suck at shitposting lmao kill yourself, retard.
>>335470752
I'm kinda glad they delayed it as much as they did to just tie together what they had.
You could clearly see there were some stuff they wanted to do more of but just left it alone and moved on for time, like the original plans to split up a level based on if you blew up the first boss' core or not.
You still see the "Complete" "Accomplished" differance afterwards, but all the stuff they mentioned last E3 about levels being affected based on that decision just never came up.
Still, for what it is, the game is pretty fun.
>>335487173
>Having a favourite piece of plastic
>call others retard
Genius
>>335473372
I can't imagine why
>>335487386
thanks for spoiling you the game you hornses ass
What the fuck was shooting them? They didn't even call for help or anything.
I'll protect you guys, I don't mind. Just tell me!
>>335470687
#Notalldogs
>>335471701
Between that and Falco quoting his lines from Smash, they actually handled referencing the memes the series spawned surprisingly well given Nintendo's history.
>>335487382
It's a shame the mission accomplished never came through. Some of them are terribly challenging too, like the one on Sector Omega. Imagine going through a run and just getting hit once and having to start all over in arcade mode. It would be so intense. As is there's no reason to get mission accomplished after getting it the first time. They could have at least added a hit bonus for beating a mission that way.
>>335487137
I'll put it like this
>1-3 hours depending on how you do the first time
>The accomplishment is meaningless as it just grants you a medal instead of indicating you got a new route
>Only a few missions have this, but the requirements are hilariously bad in comparison to what you had to do in 64 to get to the new route
>Much less paths than 64 had
>No matter the outcome, the final boss is the same
>The portals are meaningless as they just give you special stages that dont play into the main plot
>The plot itself is a mess
What does that voice say before every mission? "Get Fucked?
>>335487728
"Good luck."
>>335487410
>having no dick
Kissless faggot xD
>>335487582
Teammate's health no longer acts that way, not really. It's more like an artificial time limit now. The longer you take, the more their health drops, and less bonus points you get.
>that guy who posts screenshots as if the game looks impressive
>>335487728
"Good luck"
>>335478202
>Implying you can't disable the voices from the controller on the start menu so they come from the TV
I looked everywhere for this feature. Please tell me where it is.
>Single mission with peppy
"Oh sweet, this is gonna be-"
>BAE-REL ROLL
>BAE-REL ROLL
>BAE-REL ROLL
>BAE-REL ROLL
Yup. Done. Turning this game back into gamestop right now.
>>335487386
I can't say I'm surprised that this happens but it wouldn't have killed you to use a spoiler tag. The game has only been out for a weekend.
>Finish game
>Glance back at the screen after the credits
>That dedication to "Our wingman who fell in battle."
>mfw
RIP Iwata
>>335488423
>find it cute at first
>it starts getting annoying
>not barrel-rolling is making me die
>>335488625
The real suprising bit is thatAndross reacts to James there as well, meaning this is the first time it's confirmed that Fox isn't hallucinating
>>335488625
>care about plot in Star Fox game
>>335488705
I'm pretty sure it was for the WW2 pilots, actually.
>>335486113
I kinda like that they went back to andross piloting a giant face ship rather than him mutating himself into a 50 foot brain.
Starfox 64:
>A retelling of the original starfox
>Enhanced visuals
>Added 3D all range mode maneuvers
>Memorable campy dialogue and a plot that basically parodied star wars, independence day and other sci-fi flicks.
>Star wolf and backstory added and fleshed out.
>could choose planet routes by planet instead of following a linear path from the begining
>TWO Final boss choices depending on your route
>Short and sweet but easily replayable
>Loved by many
Zero:
>A retelling of Starfox 64
>Enhanced visuals
>Forced gyro and motion control into all range mode
>A few one liners that stick but the majority of the game is slightly altered quotes from 64, or just plain silent. Plot is exactly the same as 64 with a minor tweak.
>No new enemies/rivals every single boss asset is reused in a different role.
>Story route is pretty much linear on a first run, diversions are minor and ultimately end with the same finale.
>Only one final boss, and its a tedious fight forced by the gyro controls.
>a 3-4 hour trek with no life count other then the gold ring bonus, which makes arcade mode annoying as heck if you've spent 2+ hours just to die at the finale from bad camera and control.
>to be decided
>>335488821
Well you could just turn the volume off on the Gamepad
>>335465279
LZ anon, LZ.
>>335487386
>Posting spoilers on /v/
>>335489891
>Hurr use the shitty target mode and look at the cockpit
Fuck that. I'm fighting on TV.
LETS SEE HOW GOOD YOU REALLY ARE /v/.
http://www.sporcle.com/games/Clockworkyg/starfox-64-voiceovers
>>335479118
Hey I have a question for you, I'm >>335477921.
How bad do the non arwing missions slow down the pace of the game? I've been reading that that's a concern for a lot of people. Like if I want to do multiple playthroughs,
>>335489978
Just use use Lock-on to keep track of them and then release it once you have them back in front of you.
The game is 7/10 but I can imagine the improvements that would make it 10/10 for me. Hopefully this gets a sequel and they get the time to do it right next time.
>>335487137
>It needs to be shorter
There's a reason arcade records your time, take a shorter route. The paths in this game are 'disappointing' for people compared to 64 because they're not new full levels, but that's exactly the point because of how arcade mode works.
>>335490789
I really hope it's made clear to them that everybody fucking loved Sector Omega, and that is what we'd love more of.
>>335489737
>when a game you like has something new, it's an 'addition'
>when a game you don't like something new, it's "forced"
lelolel
Overall, this is one of the worst shitposts I've seen in a while.
>>335491073
I think sector omega worked because it was the only stage like that in the game. It could have been a bit longer though.
>>335489978
>anon you need to use both screens
>NO FUCK THAT 64 USED THE TV I'M GONNA USE THE TV ONLY
No wonder people hate Zero, they refuse to adapt at all.
>>335490174
after you go through once you can just select what level you want to play. i've only gone through the main route and haven't gone through to find the bonus missions, but there were only 1.5(you use it for the 2nd half of mission 2) gyrocopter missions there. it's really, excruciatingly awful, but unless you want gold trophies and medals you never have to do it again. i thought i would 100% it but i honestly can't imagine sitting through zoness again. there's also a few retarded segments where you convert the arwing to a little walker mech and have to do garbage platforming and stepping on switches to open gates. it's like miyamoto went senile and forgot what game he was working on
is it worth $60? it kind of depends on how much you like starfox. Sector Omega almost made the garbagecopter worth it for me. the motion controls are a bit weird, but it's also a godsend to be able to aim independently of where you're flying. the good news is they work the way they're supposed to, you have to click the recalibrate/center button kind of often but it's just the left stick so it's not like fighting with the remote in skyward sword. it's mostly a matter of getting used to it. that said, there really should have been an option to fully shut off motion controls.
i like it. it's not perfect and zoness is one of the worst things i've ever played in a game, but i recommend it if you're like me and addicted enough to the genre to do full 100% runs on multiple copies of SF64. i'd definitely find a way to rent it first since you could easily go either way on it.
>>335490143
57/130
47%
I feel ashamed for not getting a lot of these
>>335491225
I kinda disagree, I feel like any good stage gimmick should have two levels.
One to teach and one to go nuts on.
>>335491418
> it's like miyamoto went senile and forgot what game he was working on
He thinks he's still working on Star Fox 2.
64- All-range mode, Star Wolf, Charged shots, ground combat
Adventures- Andross's Krazoa face acts a lot like his Mask form in the SF2 final boss fight
Assault- All-range ground combat with small objectives such as switches to hit to progress
Command- The strategy and time limit elements and alternate Arwing forms
And finally Zero with the Walker
>>335492545
Miyamoto had nothing to do with Adventures, Assault, and Command.
/v/ keeps treating the Gyrowing as some sort of end of the world abomination when in reality it isn't that bad.If you know what you're doing your time with it is pretty much cut short.
