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I'm still fucking disappointed
WHAT THE FUCK KOJIMA
IT COULD HAVE BEEN GREAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVWWXIIHJbo
>>335313803
>IT COULD HAVE BEEN GREAT
not with konami calling the shots
>>335313803
>every cutscene in the game was shown in the trailers
>spend the whole game looking forward to seeing Major Zero
>it's a bonus cassette tape
It was Konami's game from inception. Just the pitch of a open world Metal Gear game developed for two generations of consoles + PC sounds like it was made to insure maximum profit.
>>335314189
I mean the story wasn't written by Kojima and it could had worked, but he fucked up bad.
> Prepare to see Big Boss's fall
> No fall
> No Big Boss
Fuck Konami, seriously. I expected so much from this game. Gameplay was but also in terms of story.
I got none.
>>335314189
>>335313865
I am ENTIRELY convinced that 80% of what is wrong with MGSV is Kojima's decision.
It seems like the exact kind of thing that he would think is clever or subversive.
No, it was fucked from get-go. Kojima was always obsessed with bringing MGS into open world environment and when that happened we got the blandest fucking open world ever. Ironically, least open world MGS games are the best
Here's to you, Nicola and Bart
Rest forever here in our hearts
The last and final moment is yours
That agony is your triumph
yfw
>>335315003
There was no open world MGS before MGSV anon.
I still don't get how he can go from a game with individual 2 hour long cutscenes to a game with about 10 minutes of cutscenes in the entire game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CB3LLJpg1A
>Kojima finally gets a technology enough to film cutscenes of cinematic quality
>we get this
toppest of keks
This clown was never good, I'm glad his movie career never started and Silent Hills got fucked
>>335313803
I'm really getting tired of these threads bitching about what a disappointment this game was. Get the fuck over it.
I don't see why people blame Konami for this shit. Sure, Konami are stupid kikes but they don't intentionally make bad games.
it's obvious it's mostly Kojimas doing as he's the god damn creative director, he's the one who was in charge and fucked everything up. His ambitions were too high and he messed up/wasted so much money he was fired for it.
FUCK YOU KOJIMA
>>335314894
DESU, it almost seems as Kojima had the plot half-way done, and when told he couldn't make the game he wanted, shoehorned whatever ending he thought made it harder for Konami to continue to build on his franchise.
So instead of bringing things to an expected conclusion, or leaving things open ended, Kojima fucks with past lore, beaks the fourth wall again, and has an ending that brings things full circle while still not making any sense.
This results in a situation where whoever follows Kojima has to spend time dealing with the stupid plot twist that fucks with the rest of the series if they want to make a new title.
>>335315420
Fuck off to some other thread. Let us grieve in peace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYfx9qEYoW4
>>335313803
Is there anyone who wasn't a complete retard who saw the twist from like a million miles away?
I mean ffs I thought /v/ did nothing BUT repost that goddamn solid theory (that ended up being true) about Big Boss not being the real Big Boss.
I mean literally for months all /v/ talked about was "his eyes aren't the same color! He's smoking an e-cigar!! WE ARE NOT YOUR KINDA PEOPLE, YOU SEEM KINDA PHONY!!"
We all fucking saw the twist coming and called it, but the game was suddenly bad because the twist we knew about was true?
Objectively the best gameplay in the series and codecs getting turned into tapes you can listen to while you play, and faggots want to shit on this game despite shitting on MGS4 for doing the exact OPPOSITE.
Fucking kill yourselves
>>335313803
Not even gonna lie. I had more fun with Ground Zero than Phantom Pain and i think it has way more love put into it, i still wish PP would just have been multiple GZ sized areas.
The only thing that PP does better is the optimization.
>>335315694
mgs4 was WAY better than V
>>335315420
The phantom pain never goes away. It will continue to haunt you.
>>335315694
>and codecs getting turned into tapes you can listen to while you play
Peace Walker tapes were okay, but PP's are just boring to listen to. It's all dull and business only, no room for characters' personality. Doesn't help that it's usually just Miller and Ocelot talking.
As someone who never gave two shits or particulary liked MGS series, it was quite funny to watch /v/ gradually fall into mass delusion and hype itself into believing that MGS5 would end all wars and give every man a cute virgin gf.
>>335315694
>We all fucking saw the twist coming and called it, but the game was suddenly bad because the twist we knew about was true?
The game is bad because of everything about the way it presents itself. The twist comes at the end of the game with no real context for it. "This is the end of the game now, so we should reveal this..."
>>335315828
No it wasn't.
>>335315694
Many theories were posted. One man cannot prevail over hundreds of thousands of fanatic minds. MGS collapsed under the weight of its own loyal fandom.
>>335315368
the fuck are you talking about
>>335315827
But thats what PP was? But you ride a helicopter or horse to each area. I'm convinced half of the people whining about mgsv never played the other games. Its Peace Walker on consoles but cut short with the best gameplay. Go play 4 if you 9 hour cut scenes. I enjoyed it, sad Konami fucked it up, but you /v/irgins buy $60 copy and paste anime pretend wife games and then bitch about mgs5 for 7 months
>>335315694
>best gameplay in the series
Nice meme senpai
>>335316230
MGS4 had cutscenes that were literal hours long
MGSV had rare 30 second ones
>>335316264
He's wrong and right. Go back and play Ground Zeroes on Hard mode. It's fucking amazing and challenging and everything you'd ever want from a stealth game.
Problem is, Phantom Pain isn't finished and the game gives you way more gear and resources, but lacks a Hard mode.
The actual controls, aiming, stealth mechanics, everything is great. The AI has just been nerfed to oblivion compared to Ground Zeroes.
>inb4 kojidrones rationalizing a shitty game by thinking this shitshow was meant to emulate phantom pain
Kojima u ebin genus! xD
>>335316161
>no qtpie assassin to hum softly into your ear while she wrings the life out of you.
>>335315694
People got pissed with the twist becuase the whole game hinged on it and we knew it from before the game even released and the game kept treating us like retards and trying to pretend it really was Snake
>>335313803
>People complain about MGS4 having too much story
>People complain about MGS5 having too little story
>>335316497
>if only there was a middleground.
If this game had MGS2/3-level story but with everything else Phantom Pain did it'd be so fucking good.
>>335315579
My argument to that would be to ask why screw the loyal fans out of a proper ending to a multi-decade saga?
>>335316497
>i like mad max
>so this game will have almost no dialouges
>SHIP IT
>>335315580
>tfw 1:10 on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVARXWwtJFs
>>335316497
More like
>people complain about MGS4 having shitty story
>people complain about MGS5 having ever more retarded story
Did Kojima seriously think he was going to blow minds with zombies and WOLBACHIA?
>>335316497
So we can only have retarded extremes? Are you a goddamn autist who can only see the world with some sort of black and white insane delusion?
>>335316681
I'm still waiting for the reason I should be ashamed of my deeds regarding that Horse faced cunt
I'm still made this theme hasn't made it into the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs6lMLTpg6g
And Sins of the Fathers. Fuck this... just, fuck this all, how do I stop reminding myself of Phantom Pain? It already feels like an unhealthy obsession with a phantom of a game that never existed, to the point that I'd rob a bank, persuade Konami boss under the gunpoint to hand over FoxEngine and MGS rights, slap Kojima with a bag of money and tell him to stop working on whatever the fuck he's working on right now and go make a MGS5:PP - Director's Cut with the old crew.
>>335316589
>literally falling for an age old reddit meme
lmao put a trip on yourself so we can filter your future posts
>>335316804
>quiet is revealed for the first time
>people rightfully call out her attire as being gratuitous
>Kojimo goes on defensive, says there is a great & deep reason for it
>we will be ashamed of words and deeds
>game comes out
>the character contributes basically nothing to the plot
>nothing more than pure fanservice with embarrassing justification
I literally defended Quiet and was confident Kojimo would deliver big since the metal gear games are so layered. and yet it was nothing but shit. fucking dumb gook
>>335316681
MGS4 is literally Kingdom Hearts levels of retarded.
>>335316929
THE MEMES JACK XDD
>>335316909
>persuade Konami boss under the gunpoint to hand over FoxEngine and MGS rights, slap Kojima with a bag of money and tell him to stop working on whatever the fuck he's working on right now and go make a MGS5:PP - Director's Cut with the old crew.
.
im going to become a billionaire and do exactly this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL4ZxDWLwpM
Remember me /v/?
>>335316676
Just another scene/plot point that never made it into the game. I really doubt it was the original intention to hide Paz as an optional easter egg. Wonder what was supposed to be happening during this track.
>>335314837
I only got the game because I wanted to see how BB met all those crazy characters that knew him in the later games, as well as see how he got back into Foxhound. I kept waiting for DD to become Outer Heaven and go to south africa right up to the end.
>>335316963
Honestly this confuses me more than anything.
What he hell was he planning on doing?
>>335316909
What so he can fuck it up even more?
>>335315438
You are seriously right. MGSV is the highest funded Japanese game of all time, at 80 million US dollars. The director is entirely at fault for not achieving anything with the dosh.
>mfw i just feel empty inside when watching the old trailers
It was by far no bad game, but it could've been so much more. After i finsihed the game i couldn't believe that i was actually exited for Quiet and was hoping for a random desert boss fight and shit and for at least 2 other areas other than the ones we got
>>335315694
>Objectively the best gameplay in the series
It's just a TPS with marking. You hardly use any gadgets at all.
>mfw I saw 'CHAPTER 2' on the screen
>mfw when I was playing it
I would love to see an interview with Hideo Kojima explaining what the fuck happened to MGSV
>>335317146
Best trailer hands down.
>that trailer with Zero talking about finding a way to continue the Boss's will
>hype as fuck thinking he will finally be a major character in the game
>hype thinking of all the cool convos him and Venom would have
>he's only in the tapes at the end of the game
this hurt more than the rest
>>335317780
I'd love to see which excuse for Quiet he has. Literally wasted money
>>335316963
>the character contributes basically nothing to the plot
This is the most insane part, the fucking niglets are more important to the story than her, even her ""brave"" act of jumping into the clorine leads fucking nowhere since we know Liquid is cunt and the kids still go away believing you to be evil to them, so her whole act goes to waste, fucking everything about her is a waste of space, every other companion is actually better than her:
DD is a literal wallhack assist
D-Horse is good because he allows to travel between objectives fast while in stealth
D-Walker once actually developed can do the same shit as her and mark enemies or even kill them
And then that horse that pretends its a human can mark people, but only those who she aims for a certain time, can either tranquilize or kill, except if they have helmets or armor she won't be able to do that until you unlock her best weapon in the final fucking misisons of the game, while DD can tranquilize anyone and everyone
>>335317146
You feel it too, don't you?
>>335317910
Quiet wasn't a bad character 2bh.
>>335316161
What are those things that everyone wears on the neck? Headphones, goggles, what?
I'm a fan of the series but I don't understand the purpose of those
>GZ Skullface
>actually threatening, gets shit done
>PP Skullface
>just a clown that literally does nothing for the whole game and then gets stomped
>>335318247
MAJOOOOR....
I wonder who's going to make the next Metal Gear game?
>>335318247
this pisses me off too. what the fuck. what happened?
How was there such a drop off in terms of plot from Ground Zeroes to TPP?
Why is Kojima's mistake shifted over to Konami? Is there any proof that he had a grand artist vision that was explicitly stopped by the publisher?
If Kojima couldn't finish his grand story, then what the fuck was he wasting his time on?
>>335318298
What was he even trying to say with that? Just that he was really upset he wouldn't get his revenge?
>>335318152
Probably a throat microphone
Picks up vibrations so you can talk quietly
>>335317780
Didn't he kind of "clarify" the whole thing by saying that TPP was the only game he devliered after the original deadline? And that he was happy with the product? People keep bashin Konamirightfully so after many of their fuck upsbut they didn't act like they did with any other developer before, they didn't go after previous games after IGA left and scrub his name, they didn't slam him with a contract to shut him up, Kojima must have fucked up something fierce before leaving the company, I wonder if he tried to pull a Inafune and try to give greenlight to a bunch of projects without autorization
>>335318152
Its a laryngophone, they are used in places where the wearer has to keep quiet, its idiotic that she and a whole bunch of them has this but only ever uses their radio device
>>335317245
>>335314837
>the one thing that shouldn't have been a twist was a twist
>>335318405
Who even knows. Nothing anyone says or does in this game makes sense except for Kaz
>>335318247
Its lke they are two diferent characters, in those few minutes he appeared in GZ actually made you feel dread because he didn't fuck around but then comes TPP and he acts like a retard at each and every turn
>>335318405
Who the fuck knows, by that point the story stopped even trying to make sense
I thought MGSV was one of the best games I've played in 15 years. Admittedly, I care much more about gameplay than most MG fans seem to.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>335318397
The story was already finished
MGS4 should've been the last Metal Gear game
>>335318613
Well, it is a good game
>>335318543
Seriously, did we need to know that BB didn't die in OH? Because if that is trying to patch a hole it really doesn't because in the very next game he goes through something that would kill anyone
>>335316963
>>335317913
Her contribution to the plot was fucking with it even more.
>I know about the parasites, but instead of writing about it or telling the burger indian I'll just be cryptic as fuck and do things that will just have people suspect me instead of what I actually want to point out to them
>words that kill
>SO DEEP
>it's just words that kill
>>335318569
For as much shit as they get, Kaz and Huey were the best characters in the game. And I mean that in a sense of their characterization.
>>335318298
I'M BURNING UP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOJl5_8YVJw
>>335318971
Huey was more of a villain than Skullface.
>>335318828
>the symbiotic co-evolution of concepts, language and thought wasn't a metaphor that ties into the concept of memes
>it was literally symbiotic parasites that also sometimes give you superpowers
>>335318821
Yeah that was retarded
>Instead of telling this BB guy I kind of like about the parasites, I will instead fucking stab one of his soldiers in the goddamn teeth because he has parasites
>Instead of the throat, the place they actually are
>HUUUUUUUURRRRRR
>>335317913
Quiet was the best buddy though. The most fun I had with the game was entirely depending on her as my back weapon.
She can clear out small outpost, make quick work of tanks and gunships without immediately alerting them, can mark everyone and everything at a base including hidden ammo and suppressors before you even set foot on it, and she makes the skull boss fights trivial. Even if a guard is wearing a helmet, shooting them gives you an extra moment to deal with them before they call a combat alert.
>>335318821
>I'm not sure whether or not I want to take my revenge on this guy who retaliated when I tried to kill him, despite being in love with him and showing my ass off to him any chance I get
>therefore I will refuse to cure myself of a parasitic infection that will also kill me, as opposed to just taking the cure and taking revenge later using my paramilitary skills and magic powers
>>335319294
>using a buddy
lmao
Nobody in the game seems to know it's the 80s. Skullface thinking that killing English will lead to anything but a Soviet hegemony just goes to show how little thought was put into this. His home country of Hungary would be swallowed whole by the soviets. The new world language would be Russian, and Russia's nukes are fucking real, unlike skull face's nukes.
>>335319012
Please don't post shitty Quiet sfm.
That looks like PS1 Lara croft for fuck's sake.
>>335319294
>Battle gear would break the game according to Kojima
>Quiet practically plays the game for you
>DD is a wallhack
>Dwalker is invincibility mode with the right upgrades
IGN disagrees, 10/10 fagets LMAO
>>335319294
I only used DD and turned off marking
I don't want Quiet to play the fucking game for me
>>335319390
no, if you have an active metal gear before like 1990 you can defeat any nation, this is well established
>>335317146
I was hyped as fuck when they did the reveal. I-I never though the game would leave me so dissapointed /v/... I still feel like the real think is still coming, but it's over now.
>>335316703
No, you just dont know what you want
stop projecting autist
The gameplay is fantastic, however it gets very repetitive fast. You have two huge open world maps but no huge base infiltrations like Ground Zeroes. Just a bunch of tents with a few guards, wow Kojima such sneaking tension.
>>335319412
That's the Klub?
>>335319375
If I could go into any mission empty handed I would
too bad then there would only be two handicap game modes to pad out chapter two with. smdh
>>335319390
It wouldn't even be that bad if they made a point that Cipher has already become the Patriots and the Cold War had become largely a showy sham by that point. But instead everything having to do with the future was ignored to tell side stories about fucking nothing.
In terms of gameplay, the game was great, albeit the open world was a little lacking in some parts. I think Kojimjams tried to slam too many ideas and themes into a single game and it all imploded on itself, and the fact that we weren't playing Big Boss and replacing David with Kiefer for the VA really got to long time fans.
I've been a MGS fan since I was a kid and I suck Kojima's dick hard. I personally love all his works, but this time around, the dick tastes a little funny. I can't tell if it's Kojima's own fuckup or Konami screwed him over that ruined MGS5's story. If anything, maybe it's showing that Kojima is just done with MGS5, but instead of giving us a nice satisfying plot and a warm goodbye, he pretty much ended it off with a giant "fuck you".
>>335319513
Except that Skull-Face admitted that his Metal Gear was just a smoke screen for the whole parasite stupid plan, his metal gear wasn't even made to launch nukes
>>335319513
I scrapped that thing with an LMG. It's not really all that great of a machine.
I think the only good thing that came out of Venom Snake being the player was that Skullface orchestrated this whole thing, a whole portion of his life for revenge. Probably practiced his little Jeep speech to his dudes and everything, just to be brushed off by Venom Snake and then crushed and consequently have his limbs amputated until being killed by a cuck.
>>335319486
>DD
>marking turned off
Why? So he can kill and fulton niggers for you? Seriously?
>>335319718
>albeit the open world was a little lacking in some parts
That is being generous, I doubt anyone but a actual autist enjoyed those longs tracts of literally nothing, the animals he hyped ended up being a rng cage bullshit and the outposts being populated by the same 4-5 guys
>>335319841
No, i just like to have him by my side. I don't think i ever had him attack or fulton anything
>>335319951
>most of the animals don't even have 3d models or serve any purpose
>>335319481
You just know Battle gear is simply not it for the same reason as Main Op 51, Ocelot on motherbase and the rest of cut content.
>>335313803
I know how you feel bro. I will never forgive Kojima-san. The gameplay was great, best yet. But, the story was abysmal.
I'm fine with the twist, yeah its a little disappointing but the main sin for me was that nothing was elaborated on or expanded. We got a new character, but we know almost nothing about him. Whats his motivation? How did he learn about the truth? How does he respond to learning about it? Why does he go along with Big Bosses plan? The best part of the game is the Paz side quest, because that's the only part of the game about Venom Snake's character, not BB phantom.
>>335317913
>Quiet's job is to kill a one armed man who just got out of a coma
>Instead of shooting Big Medic and Boss or using her knife, she decides she has to strangle him
>Gets set on fire and falls out a window
>Skullface pumps her with magic parasites
>STILL gets her ass beat
>>335316583
How is he screwing us over when we still have decades of decent games? I hope he did it as a fuck you to Konami.
>>335319960
Same for Quiet. I like having a pair of tits to give me thumbs up every now and then.
>>335320057
I thought they did have 3D models, but they just weren't used because of the retarded cage bullshit.
God, every single part of this game was disappointing.
>>335320057
And the worst part is that this is a gigantic step down from a game made for the fucking PS2 that could still run in the fucking 3DS and you could capture all animals by just using the helicopter to touch down and put the cages and fly out on the exact same place
>tfw playing ground zeroes to death and constantly posting on /v/ about theories, expectations, trailers, and mother base threads
I want to go back /v/...
>>335320057
More animals had models than you think. They deliberately cut them because they thought it'd be more fun to have you spam cages after every helicopter drop off.
>>335316372
>mfw they had subsistence and hard mode variations of levels at the end
>but only specific ones, not a toggleable option
fucking why
>>335320482
>you will never just get to visit a friend's Mother Base and hang out
>you will never have a cool CO-OP time in the Afgan Desert or the African Plains
>Mother Base will never celebrate holidays like not!Christmas and Thanksgivinggranted that sounds like it might not be too cool, but I'd like for Mother Base to have more depth to it. A way to get to know your soldiers and just hang out
>Contributes almost nothing to the plot
>Her death is supposed to be super sad even though she only shows up in a few cutscenes
>Loves Venom for no reason, even though he's the reason she's like that in the first place
>Can speak Navajo for some reason
>I'm not even an sjw type but her constant fanservice made me cringe
>>335316497
At least MGS4 had some sense of closure.
>>335320929
Kojima might as well had put a stripper pole in the ACC
>>335320667
>co-op stealth
sounds like a blast, man
what game does this besides splinter cell/army of two
>>335320551
>mfw mgs3, a game released 11 years prior, had better animal interaction than V
how did they fuck up this badly? half the functionality that was in previous games like tranquilizing animals to use as weapons (coral snakes, scorpions, or just whipping regular snakes as a distraction) or fucking ice cubes melting individually in mgs2 wasn't in this one.
just... how? how and why?
>>335320929
>Could have left it all for you,
>But we let go.
Didn't you want to help her breathe anon?
>>335320929
>Contributes almost nothing to the plot
There was barely a plot to be a part of. I guess she was more integral to the story.
>Can speak Navajo for some reason
I imagine all XOF members were taught it as a code language and because it was immune to the parasites.. That's probably why Code Talker assumed she knew it.
>The best game in the series is a fucking demo
GZ was fucking great, TPP should have been just broken up into smaller GZ size maps. Would've been less expensive and time consuming to make and more fun because each level / mission would be unique.
>>335321489
plus you wouldn't have ten mile stretches inbetween outposts that have 3 guys each.
or two locales total.
what the fuck were they thinking?
>>335316909
Sins of a Father was played during the stupid jeep ride.
>Go back to playing MGS3 after 100 hours of TPP
>Controls are fucking stupid
Who though standing still while aiming, no crouching and button releasing functions was a good idea
>>335322058
They're a little complicated, but the whole game is balanced around it. If you had MGSV controls you'd be invincible
MGS2>MGS1>MGS3>GZ>MGR>PW>TPP>MGS4
>>335322058
Not really fair to compare controls with a game from 10 years ago and a modern game.
>>335316497
>>People complain about MGS4 having too much story
Whoever these people are, fuck these people. No seriously, fuck these people.
>>335316963
>people rightfully call out her attire as being gratuitous
nah just gawker shills
every non-faggot was absolutely fine with the t&a
>feminists and sjw cucks getting ultra triggered over a bikini
>basically all previous games had scantily clad women except MGS2
>b-but eva served a purpose
>b-but meryl waas just polygons
>b-but naomi was just a bit of cleavage, and it's not like the beast units were nude or anything
if MGSV was released back in 2000-2010 no one would have given a shit
>fanservice
fanservice to what?
>REEEEE sexualization in muh game REEEEEE
kill yourself
>open world because Skyrim sold a lot
>PVP because Dark Souls sold a lot
>a horse to sell horse armor dlc
>a dog companion to throw a bone to the autism crowd
>hot chick in a bikini because sex sells
>zombies because every Call of Duty games has them now
>edgy shock mission where you kill friendlies like Call of Duty
>episodic for the HBO audience
>gravelly voice acting for the Dorito audience
>revenge story because that not the most cliche foundation for a video game story
>plays like a generic third person shooter
>no forth wall breaks because that would scare the casual audience
>>335322519
If the story was good and didn't fuck over the game's pacing (both story and gameplay wise) I'd have no problem with it.
>>335322916
Shining Lights was the best mission in the game though
>>335322857
Eva is a Bond girl trying to seduce Snake, of course she's sexualized. Her fanservice makes sense in context, on top of being a bonus for fans. Quiet meanwhile just looks like that because Kojima wanted an excuse to look at Joostein more. Her character was just as poorly thought out as everything else in the story.
>>335322513
Games from 10 years ago have better controls
Hey I never played the Metal Gear series, and I was thinking of purchase TPP on PC. Can someone tell me what's so bad about it?
Would I enjoy it since I didn't play any others?
>>335313803
>snake actually responds when Miller is talking to him, like a functioning human
Even with all the stupid crap in V the story might have been tolerable if Venom would actually participate in conversations like he gave a shit. The main twist at the end completely lost any impact on me because Venom never even felt like a human being, let alone naked snake.
This fucking image. I'm still so angry.
>>335323278
There's nothing too bad about it, it's either people dissappointed by the plot or /v/ nitpicking. I've been a fan for a long time and it was a very different direction in many ways, but I think it's a good game. It has fantastic gameplay, I'd say go for it.
>>335323093
Nobody actually gives a fuck though, and Quiet was a reference to a bond girl anyway.
>Her character was just as poorly thought out as everything else in the story.
As if the MGS series reads like a classic novel to start with anyways.
>>335323093
>just an excuse to look at Joosten more
That's as good a reason as any.
Also Sniper Wolf, Fortune, B&B, every girl in Peace Walker. Eva was just the one instance were it made perfect sense.
>>335322519
Most people just didn't like that there were cutscenes that went on for up to 50 minutes at a time. That was pretty ridiculous even by MGS standards. Kojima took the complaints to heart sadly though and decided to take out as much story as possible and put them into the audio tape video game trope. Which is the worst story telling method in video games, seriously fuck audio logs.
>>335320929
>Quiet revealed
>Shitshow over her outfit
>Kojimbo says YOU WIRR FEER ASHAMED FOR YOUR WORDS AND DEEDS when you find out why she looks like that
>the excuse is dude parasites lmao
Kojima's obsession with Joosten didn't help MGS V.
>>335323278
It's good at first then becomes boring pretty quick and then good again, but you won't understand shit
>>335323394
You can look like that in the game apparently. You just an ungodly amount of bad boy points.
>>335318298
REMEMBER THE ALAMO
>>335323572
>>335323403
Sounds like a deal to me. Gameplay triumphs story by a mile shot.
>>335322519
The problem is that MGS 4 has the worst pacing. MGS 1 and MGS 3 have a good balance of gameplay. MGS 2 can be a little overwhelming sometimes, particularly when you first start to play as Raiden and you're flooded with cutscene after cutscene after codec call after codec call. MGS 4 gets really bad at some points with long stretches of cutscenes. I think that from defeating Raging Raven to the start of gameplay in Act 4 is well over an hour.
>>335323792
Well, you'll still be walking through emptyness a lot and do the same side quests over and over again.
>>335323316
>That entire ride with Skullface
>Not a single word uttered while lustman rambles on about his new world
>Sins of the fathers awkwardly playing in the background
Fuck, at least PW had Heaven's Divide play while you were shooting down helicopters. Why not have SOTF play during the Sally fight or while you infiltrate OKB Zero?
>>335323570
"You will feel ashamed" was a single poorly translated tweet that got reposted for two years.
If anyone gets mad that the excuse for Quiet being naked its because they're either a raging autist that cared too much about a single tweet or an SJW who can't comprehend that some people like naked hot girls
>>335323278
TPP was actually a lot of peoples first MGS game and they love it. The fans generally don't like it (me included) for various reasons. TLDR its because Kojima seemed to cater to new audiences rather than fans, meaning that the story is pretty much unimportant to the timeline and its pretty much a pointless entry in the series.
>>335323743
SUCH A LUST FOR REVENGE
>>335313803
I love Metal Gear Solid V - The Phantom Pain
My 2nd GOTY of 2015
No one can stop me, Not even /v/ :)
>>335313803
in retrospect, i liked it a lot
>>335318247
> He was intimidating in GZ, then in PP he's like a Saturday morning cartoon villain...like a watered down Skeletor or Dick Dastardly.
>>335323978
WOULDN'T YOU AGREEEEEEEE
>>335316198
The biggest problem with the twist isn't how obvious it is(that's still a problem) it's that Venom has all the emotional depth, and agency of a cardboard cutout. He just stumbles his way through the game silently obeying Ocelot and Kaz. The trauma he goes through at the end means jackshit to me when he was such a paper thin character throughout the rest of the game.
Another problem was that he acted nothing like the character of Bigboss we had gotten to know over the course of the two previous games. He had no charisma, no goofy quirks, no passion, nothing.
>huh this guy that acts nothing like this character turns out to be a different character, makes sense.
>>335323891
>that whole fucking ride in the truck with Skullface
>Venom Snake says LITERALLY nothing while the bad guy is telling him his entire plan and his motivations for doing so
How the fuck do you develop that scene and say, "Yeah, this is fine"?
>>335316963
Me too anon, I can't believe people are actually looking forward to Kojima's next IP. His new characters who took up all the screen time in MGSV were fucking atrocious, hell they have been since 4. Clearly he was not the only guy writing them.
>>335323956
>see what Liquid was doing in Africa
>see how Liquid and Mantis met up which would eventually lead to MGS1
>learn Ocelots real mom and how bad his Dad fucked up literally all the time before getting cucked by his son later and killing himself
>explains how Big Boss survives being set on fire and burning to death twice and somehow having two massive military nations within the span of two years
I won't sit here and pretend the story was perfect, but what the fuck else could have happened?
The gap between Metal Gear and MGSV was small. We know what happens from Metal Gear onward. Any new plot points would've had to been self-contained anyways, like Skullface, otherwise the Metal Gear games that take place in the future wouldn't make sense.
Hell I don't even get the people that still think we don't know what made Big Boss evil. Did you niggas even play MGS3 or Peace Walker?
I'm pretty happy with the way this all turned out.
Kojimadrones are the most obnoxiously rabid fanbase on /v/ and you faggots shitted up the board for months before getting BTFO.
Thank god, because this was easily the most spammed game on /v/ in the last 5 years.
>>335315694
A twist people people predicted more than a year in advance isn't a very good twist, don't you think?
>>335323978
SUCH A LUST FOR DISAPOINTING GAMES!
>>335324370
Autism.
>>335324461
It wasn't about what or why, it was about how. The scene where Venom rubs the ashes on his face clearly shows that he's incredibly dedicated but also fucking crazy, and is excellent connective tissue between MGS3/Peace Walker and the older portrayals of Big Boss. Then the scene exists only in isolation and doesn't actually mean anything.
>>335324389
Its pretty obvious Kojima was half assing his way through the development of this game. Konami was forcing him to produce nothing but MGS games even though he wanted to stop the series years ago. People are excited for his next IP because this will be the first non-mgs game from him since ZOE.
>>335324568
Hyping up that twist for months though and then claiming its bad when you were clamoring for it in the first place makes no fucking sense.
At least be consistent. I don't think people bitching about the twist would bother me so much if there wasn't an image explaining this very twist on the front page all the time for months before the game came out.
>>335323882
Little bit of grinding ain't so bad
>>335324461
Did you forget Big Boss set up Outer Heaven in that time period or something? That's all people wanted. That's all Kojima had to do but he thinks he's a genius who knows better when he's just a dumbass with one hand down his pants stroking it to white girls and the other one calling all his Hollywood bros to back him up.
>>335314837
>still blaming konami when kojima himself put his name on every fucking mission in the game as writer and director
lmao
I wish Mission 51 was in the game as an actual finished mission, the area looked great. And the bossfight against Solid should be the final boss fight that you can't win
>>335324730
>that autistm
Jesus fucking christ. Look I try to be more excited Kojima is free, but MGSV was barely MGS anyway. That was a taste of what's coming up and it wasn't good.
>>335324809
>Did you forget Big Boss set up Outer Heaven in that time period or something?
You mean building up a military safe haven island like he did in Peace Walker...?
That thing he's done before, but again?
>>335324730
jesus christ that pic
quiet is literally lazy fucking fan service
this is why i hate art and artists, make somewhat of a name for yourself then do whatever the fuck you want and you'll always have at least one person fan from the beginning defending you because you're "such a genius". If you have a name for yourself you can fucking phone it in and people will literally say "genius! the fact that its phoned in is the point!"
besides, its not like kojima was solely responsible for the good things in metal gear, there seems to be a disturbing connection between all around solid metal gears and tomokazu fukushima being on the writing team.
>>335324998
I'm hoping the backlash knocked some sense into him but some of the comments make me worried that he doesn't actually understand why people are upset.
>>335324461
People wanted to see Major Zero, Foxhound getting created, possible reacreations of MG1 and MG2 that would complete the circle for the whole SOLID series, an Eva cameo, the story that would finally complete the character arc for BB, and actually show all the stuff that happens in the timeline only in text in actual in-game / cutscene format.
>mfw that PT radio in the jungle
>pre-game
>expected the whole story to be Big Boss/Kaz tracking down Cipher for revenge when Skull Face clearly did it
>expected Skull Face to do some double agent shit and side with Big Boss while destroying Cipher, two birds in one stone
>play game
>"Boss we need to track down skull face he was the one who did it."
>>335313803
I remember being hyped as hell to play the hospital level after seeing the live demo. (might have been a bit after that Phantom Pain/Moby Dick troll)
Then the actual game came out...
>>335325183
>this is why i hate art and artists
now this is autism
>>335325448
its weird, i actually felt bad for skull face
i really hate being the one to say "the game itself is a metaphor for phantom pain by slamming player expectations" but im feeling more and more like that. I mean, how could the trailers be so fucking far from the game yet showing the same shit thats there. its like a limb thats missing. i hate saying thiis pretentious shit but the way the game turned out, it had to be somewhat on purpose, it all feels so surreal and fucked.
>>335324998
>>335325183
fyi not my pic, I agree that Quiet is shit. I just thought it was an amusing read.
>>335313803
>Dancing with tears in my eyes
>Weeping for the memory of a life gone by
>Dancing with tears in my eyes
>Living out a memory of a love that died
Kojima tried to give us what we can never have anons.
>When a game series becomes a reflection of your life and the decisions you make
The feels were just too real for me anons
>knew girl that was basically qt that played vidya, turned into feminist sjw type. hates all the old games she used to play
>dyes her beautiful auburn hair
>used to be best buds
>something i can't have, was busy off playing soldier
>now just a memory, just another feel
The saddest part of life isn't death anons, it's not even the loneliness. It's what could have been if you'd just made better decisions.
>>335325558
you can smear poop on a canvas and be called an "artist". the term is an insult at this point.
I am an animator and a music producer btw
>>335325664
>it all feels so surreal and fucked.
I know right? Ever since the release, the whole NEVERBEGAMEOVER fiasco. It's an incredibly unique experience as far as I'm concerned. Crazy ass shit.
>>335325374
>Feel a little scared the first time
>Feel nothing now
>>335325664
Not really that weird, the way I see it everyone who fought against Cipher / The Patriots were heroes for it (Liquid, Solidus, Ocelot). There methods are what made them villains.
>>335320929
Also, she spoke english around Venom. But somehow it didn't give him the parasites because this scene is supposed to be heartfelt, you guys. She's finally talking!
>>335325974
but if the methods make them villains, how can they be heroes at the same time.
>>335325825
>Kojima tried to give us what we can never have anons.
A not-shit game?
>Ours issa society that murders the innocent
I thought SkullFace was going to start rapping at that point. Like the driver would turn on the radio to drop a beat and SkullFace would just tell his plan in rapping form.
>>335324730
>Harassed by DD soldiers
>They openly say they're afraid of her and don't want to be near her
>>335326071
no anon, hope. he tried to give us hope
>>335325851
I agree that post modernism and conceptualism is trash, but writing it off in its entirety for a few bad examples is nothing short of pure concentrated autism.
Good to hear you have a job, doesn't make you an authority on the matter.
>>335326069
Because their intentions were noble, they wanted to rid the world of Patriot control. They all had extreme methods though (using nukes, kidnapping, terrorism, etc.)
I'm exited for Kojimas next game, but only if he has a good co writer again
And maybe they make their own Fox Engine, but without last gen in mind this time
>>335326148
I think if kojima would have stopped giving a fuck like this the game would have improved 10 fold
like if huey was dressed like a clown in some scenes and code talker would randomly be able to walk then would sometimes be in his wheelchair
just fuck with the audience in really dumb ways
the worst part is that fans would probably come up with bullshit meanings to all of it
"ah of course! mr. kojima-san is a genius! huey being a clown in some scenes is a result of the shrapnel and it shows venom's true view of huey how is a fool and not to be trusted!"
>>335326168
When the cutscene played that showed her trying to kill a DD solider, I thought it was because she caught him rubbing his junk on her face or something.
>>335326323
if you think postmodernism isn't getting fucking tiring, you have poor taste. I'd like to see a resurgence of legitimate craft and skill in story tell and not this cop-out "the story being a story is the story maaaaaaan" bullshit that's been fucking everywhere in the past view years in terms of narratives, especially in video games. I know kojima has been doing it for a while but I would have liked to see him either do it well like he did in mgs2 or showcase some skill as a writer this time without falling back on meta narratives, but I guess that's too much to ask huh
>>335326148
I like the idea that the driver turned on the radio just because of the awkward silence and Sins of the Father was playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e4vKNdkcdE
>"Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg... and my arm... even my fingers. The body I've lost... the comrades I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our past."
>>335326713
The whole thing was weak overall, though. The ladder segment in MGS3 was way better.
>>335324735
Nah, I wasn't surprised, just disappointed.
It was a shitty twist when /v/ thought of ot and it was a shitty twist when Kojima actually went through with it.
>>335326323
and for the record I'd like to clarify i was using hyperbole. I don't actually discard every single artist. There are plenty I respect and admire because they show a true hold over their craft. I can't have respect for people who fall back on meta shit because they can't capture interest any other way
The Phantom Pain was genuinely the worst experience of my entire life. I'm not even being hyperbolic. The shittiness of this game genuinely affected me.
When MGS2 was released fans attacked it too for an unsatisfying story. Now it's held as one of the finest pieces of video game storytelling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA4uan90HeA
In a few years everyone will herald MGSV's hidden brilliance.
>>335327187
I was like that for ME3.
>>335317913
This whole thing is surreal. It's like everything that's shit about this game is something so fucking stupid it's as if it was shit on purpose. Literally, every aspect of this game is so bad it's like it was deliberate and exaggerated on purpose by Kojima himself. I really hope NBGO is right.
>mfw i played through the whole game with the tranq pistol and tranq sniper rifle
I don't think i ever used a lethal gun and never used 99% of the weapons. When i finished the game i just didn't even want to try out shit
>>335328039
>tfw used the sneaking suit throughout the rest of the game once I unlocked it
I'm really glad that daytime multiplier shit is FOB only.
I know Konamis kikery contributed to some flaws of the game but really it was all Kojimas fault for trying to bring a Metal Gear GTA. He thought an open world would work and it practically backfired. While the gameplay is a solid 9 the story, setting, characters are a -2/10. Kojima wanted this to be his magnum opus and got a 30% content and 70% filler game. Whatever his real vision was it was way too big for Konami to even cut him out altogether.
>tfw konamis MG will just be TPP reskinned in another setting with literally same gameplay and filler bs.
>>335328246
Sneaking suit is shit, though. Why use it? Also it has an upside down chode on the back.
>>335328517
sneaking suit masks the sound of your footsteps, nighttime restricts the soldiers' line of sight
it gives you one advantage against the enemy
>>335328517
>Sneaking suit is shit, though. Why use it?
The sneaking suit mutes your footsteps, and gives you a lot more protection than regular camo just in case you get spotted or a defender shows up.
>>335327214
>In a few years everyone will herald MGSV's hidden brilliance.
I doubt people will come to call having a game be only 70% finished brilliant.
>>335319053
>Huey was more of a villain than Skullface.
Shit, I was getting a Mr. Glass vibe from Huey in TPP.
No one's going to suspect the cripple after all, right?
>>335319513
>if you have an active metal gear before like 1990 you can defeat any nation,
Sure thing when these shits get consistently taken out by one person with a machine gun and corny one liners.
The only thing remotely interesting about them is that they fire nukes, but these things could be taken out by any tank or APC hanging around.
>>335313803
But it was great.
Sorry you didn't get the MGS4-style fanservice you wanted.
>>335324776
>Little bit
You will be grinding for hours in copy paste boring ass locations for no fucking reason than to pad the game out.
The gameplay is fucking terrible I have no clue why everyone is dicksucking it. There's practically zero enemy diversity, zero reason to use anything outside the tranquilizer, Mother Base has fucking nothing to do on it outside of shitty training missions, and did I mention there are NO FUCKING BOSS FIGHTS? Outside of TMOF when you go to that fucked up camp and drive him into a lake, and Salathropus which was pretty fun, there's none of the boss fights MGS is known for.
This game was completely awful on every level and anyone who tries to tell you differently is a Stockholm syndrome chuck or Konami shil.
>>335320667
MGO should have had a coop option.
And Motherbase should have had interiors where the soldiers live or quarters for Snake, Ocelot and Miller where you could interact with them, like how you could visit your crew in Mass Effect on the Normandy.
>>335324950
>The Truth is literally the prologue complete with the bullshit control tutorial
Fucking hell they could've at least let us play as the real BB.
>>335322380
MGS1>MGS2=MGS3>MGS5>MGR>MGS4>PW
>>335333479
I desperately want a COOP option or something for MGO.
>COOP
>play as one of Snake's Buddies or one of your MGO characters
>other person could play as Snake or a Diamond Dog
>>335333504
That would have been slick as fuck man
>>335333378
>great
>mindless side ops that could have just as easily been made from an algorithm
>dead as a doornail open world with barely any reactivity or interesting things to explore
>shitty boss battles and a severe lack of them in a series known for its great boss battles
>lame story that makes little sense and is unfinished in a major story arc
>cut content from the Camp Omega shit to Battle Gear
>grinding shit for Mother Base
>dead as fuck Mother Base with barely anything to do other than the Paz storyline and a few cutscenes
>boring and dead MGO
Least memorable MGS by far.
>BU BU BUT I WANTED TO SEE BIG BOSS' FALL
>Not recognizing Big Boss' fall happened a long time ago
>Falling for more classic Kojima misdirection
It's like you retards aren't real fans of the series.
>>335315828
There's a limit to contrarianism anon.
>>335333718
I think they might all just be retarded, still fans though.
I don't know what disappointed me more this or Batman V Superman. Maybe Zack Snyder should have made this game and Kojima directs Batman V Superman.
>>335316331
>MGS4 had cutscenes that were literal hours long
nigga quit lying
>>335333676
>Side ops are literally radiant quest from Skyrim tier
It was hell grinding them to unlock missions.
>>335333676
You sure seem to remember a lot of it.
>Least memorable MGS
That's Peace Walker, considering most of the gameplay is walking from one end of a small, thin map that needed to be rendered on a PSP to the other while passing by some very bad AI guards.
The fulton damages MGS game design worse than the tranq getting longer with each game does.
Open world was the final dagger.
>>335322857
Fine with t&a, but Quiet's fucking design is horrendous. It isn't just SJWs, anyone who isn't a 13 year old boy getting his first flood of testosterone would see a really shit design.
Even compared to other women in the MGS series, Quiet is far more exposed and in a much shittier manner. Torn stockings over a few olive drab straps was a shit design.
>Eva
Wore coveralls with only the front zipped down, like 75% of her is covered except her midriff, and she's sexually engaging for far better reasons, on top of being sexier than Quiet.
>Meryl
She's wearing baggy camo pants, boots and a tank top. It's virtually the same getup as Vasquez from Aliens. You're retarded, or you need to seriously get fucking laid already.
I hope they make more games with this engine. It was fun and maybe in the hands of someone else they can surpass Kojima. I just hope whoever works on it next understands the quirks that made the Metal Gear franchise so beloved.
>>335323278
Beyond the disappointment as the end of the series, as much as we might bitch, it's still a pretty solid game.
Only thing you really have to worry about with PC is if you end up doing any of the FOB shit, there's hackers and cheaters all over the place and Konami doesn't give a shit.
But on the positive end, you can get the Infinite Heaven mod.
>>335333932
>thinking Batman V Superman would be good
>falling for the capekino meme
Interesting. I would have never thought people like you existed.
>Kojima will die believing he did a great job with MGSV
>>335316497
There is a vast amount of middle ground between them, and you only have to watch MGS 4's cut-scenes if you specifically choose to.
tranquilizers should have never been in mgs outside of capturing live animals in mgs3 for shenanigans
>>335333718
>Not recognizing Big Boss' fall happened a long time ago
Maybe the motivation, and only a hint of it, but we never see Big Boss's fall.
Saying MGS3 or PW set up everything we needed to know, is like saying that we only needed to see the cancer diagnosis to know how Walter White became Season 5 Heisenberg.
>>335313803
"your anger will turn to sadness in time..."
- Kojima 2016
>>335334092
Too much under boob but other than that I think it's cool design. Fits the edgy aesthetic of the game.
Is Konami even making games anymore? Has anything from them been announced?
>>335316909
>finally done with a series you spent a decade trying to leave
>hardest installment to develop yet, but relatively pleased with effort
>get working on a new project
>some neckbeard bursts into the office with a bag of money and demands you redo the latest game
>"Uh...you see, Metal Gear is very close to my heart, but I'm ready to move on to a new chapter in my life".
>he pulls out a gun
>>335334591
>Fits the edgy aesthetic of the game.
>>335335348
>kill kojima
>it was just his double
>>335336310
>Punished "Venom" Snake: A Fallen Hero
That doesn't sound edgy to you?
