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>It's another unexpected assrape episode
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>it's a "tough" DaS3 enemy
>its has a 10 billion hit combo with infinite stamina which it can randomly pause or extend to fuck you up, as well as a weapon with the reach of the entire universe

do people not get tired of this?
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>>335120609
Just stay glued to their right and the mini-Vordts are a piece of cake.

I was a little sad that the Outrider Knight set used the generic helmet and not Vordt's ;_;
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He's probably the most aggresive enemy in the whole game
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>>335120750

Definitely slower than Pontiff
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Yeah this guy definitely surprised me with how strong he was. And then I had forgotten by the time I got to the one at Lothric castle.
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>>335120609
Maybe I should've enjoyed the fight, but I just went passed the door and shot arrows from there, realizing he can't pass.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmWNjeVY3sc
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>>335120842
I'd say he's slightly faster than Pontiff though, definetly more relentless
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>>335121004
I'm far from considering myself good at this game but this guy really plays like utter shit
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>>335121162

>bad player talking shit about another bad player


Like pottery. An endless cycle.
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>>335121469
At least I know when I have to git gud rather than blaming the hitboxes, the camera or even the fucking music
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>>335120954
I do stuff like this. Like in Lothric Castle, that room directly in front of the stairs from the dancer bonfire. The knight can't go past the doorway so I lured him towards it, wait until he does a forward lunge then hit him with a fully charged R2 from the machete and back off. Fuck that other thing in there that buffs him.
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>>335120609
>its another just roll behind him episode
they dont have any moves that hit behind them
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Its a "Where is my hard difficulty?" episode
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>>335121852
The only enemy I cheesed was the spooky spider that builds up curse with its bites in the Cathedral.
Thought I could do the same with the one in Anor Londo but that fucker jumped through the main door and fucked me up
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>>335120726
I mean, I'm sure they'd probably get tired of the fictional scenario you created, but since that's not really what we deal with in the game I don't think so, no.
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>>335121987
>It's a "doesn't know about calamity and skull ring" episode
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nah dont really need them, already started a sl1 run, that works too
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>>335120609
The one in the Grand Archives is worse because you can't cheese him.
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>>335122118
I cheeses both of them two. The one in Anor Londo loses aggro pretty easily. I just ran back up the stairs and around the other way and could walk him behind him unnoticed. Four R2 machete smashes and it was dead.
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>>335120726
>which it can randomly pause or extend to fuck you up

Here is a protip. If you're in range he'll do his entire combo. If you're not he'll stop it at some point.
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>it's another rapier user episode
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>>335122118
you can cheese him on the stairs. You should still be able to shoot is legs even when he is right up against the wall.

I reserve my right to cheese the fuckers with arrows. they give me the heebie jeebies
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>>335122298
>going to fight an invading phantom armed with a thrusting weapon in an a narrow area

you asked for it. should have just waited the fucker out, kill that silver knight while you're at it
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>>335122298
Rapiers are easy as fuck to counter, just roll away or back step when they spam R1 and get the easiest parry of your life, or just use a fucking spear.
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>>335122298
rekt
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>>335120609
What's the best PVE skill weapon?
I'm tired of Uchigatana
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>>335122298
that was the host being utter shit and you know it
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>>335122298
>know they are around corner
>run diectly into them and close any distance that gives you an advantage with a greatsword
>initiate a swing that was bound to hit the wall being completely unaware they could have countered just by walking to the side a little
>attempting another swing after a roll when they're still right in front of you
You did fucking everything wrong.
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>>335122489
Smough's hammer
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>>335122298
No matter what weapon, if you get hit your only option is pretty much to roll away or you get raped.
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>>335122298
Bwah, why isn't my huge slow sword good in an area with no room to move. And it's so damn easy to parry rapier users.
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>>335122536
Come on man its str and not even the best str weapon
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>>335122265
The black bow of pharis would like a word with you from way over here.
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>>335122606
I'm just fucking around, but by skill did you mean like it actually takes skill to use effectively, calling Dex skill for some reason or the weapon art?
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>>335120750
>>335120842
Nah, that would be that crocodile-thing guarding the bridge. It has attacks that cover both it's sides, his back, it has more than one gap closer and can combo, 100x more aggresive than both those bosses.

>>335122390
>>335122529

That wasn't me, I saved this webm in another thread, and rapiers are definitely too aggressive as they are now, regardless of the situation on the webm.
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>>335122717
I meant dex
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>>335122717
I assume he's talking about Dex-weapons. I'm interested too.
Katanas might be alright, but doesn't seem to be my thing. Are there any good weapons with the dashing skill?
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>>335122720
>that crocodile-thing
Fuuuuck those things.
>that covenant guarded by two of them
I didn't want that achievement anyway
>>335122746
No idea, I never bothered with dex builds.
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I'm doing a new run with a quality build, I'm using the lucerne for the most of the playthrough, but I need a sidearm, are there any piercing weapons that isn't rapiers that would fit my freelancer look?
Pike is my third weapon
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>>335122845
ornstein's spear
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Any boss soul weapons good or at least fun to mess around with? I've only gotten the dancers twin blades and they're ok. The weapon art seems useless though, really weak unless I'm doing something wrong.
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>>335122823
Aggro them, climb half way up ladder, wait till they are bunched up beneath you and then drop and plunge attack

then repeat until dead
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>>335122894
Read thinking of something of the lighter sort, already have to pole weapons
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>>335122976
none of the boss weapons are good, don't bother
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>>335122979
I've got a pole you can use
*unzips greatlance*
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>>335122978
That seems better than my idea of luring out one, get minimal room to move around, and just learn every single tell and ability through death. It was frustrating
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>>335122979
Warpick
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>>335123017
Yhorm's Great Machete and the Profaned Greatsword are amazing.
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>>335122978
I broke down and used a trainer. Pls no bully.
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>>335120609
Wait, it was already pathetic when people were claiming uchi-guy was hard to beat, but now this thing? God damn why do you people suck so much?
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>>335123063
I liked the greatlance in 2,it's so weird that they included one weapon with that moveset. Too bad they put it so late game
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>>335123214
Astora greatsword has the lance charge
Its pretty kickass
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>>335123138
dark sword swings faster than both, doing more damage in 2 hits than 1 in either of those
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>>335123180
But why anon?! It's not impossible to beat, and trainers are a slippery slope.
I expected more of you. Please apply yourself more in the future
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>>335123272
Yeah, it's a cool move,but ,you know ,it isn't a Lance made for jousting. It's a big sword
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solo'd it first time git gud fag
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I'm at the cathedral and I'm scared.
The health draining is making me paranoid.
I bought like 8 homeward bones.
I want to explore and not die.
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noob here. can someone tell me what to do when being invaded?

I don't know where the fuck the guy is, and I can't seem to use bonfires. what the fuck am I supposed to do? can I end this bullshit somehow?
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>>335123346
Sorry anon-Sama but I just got fed up after so many attempts and wanted to move on. I used it on the Nameless King too. I should just uninstall it at this point.
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>>335123505
Either shoot the jailers from far away or kill them before they can react to you.
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>>335123508
it doesnt matter if you dont know where he is since he is the one who is supposed to find you
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>>335123505
I hate that place so god damn much. You can move out of their Los and wait for the bar to regain it's length, heal up and kill them asap
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>>335122298
OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED
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>>335123606
I see.
Only issue is that I'm on a STR build. But I might have enough Dex for a bow/crossbow.

The other part that makes me paranoid (this area is really good for that) is the graveyard and the respawning zombies. I have to run past them now and try to avoid being ganked. Definite dick move combining these two together.
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>>335120609
>be me
>pretty shit at the game
>die lots
>reach this guy
>dodge his attacks and assfuck him
How have you NOT gotten good yet?
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>>335123559
Anon, I'm not angry, just disappointed in you. You'll get more pleasures in life when you work hard for them. Cheating doesn't just ruin it for you, but for every single hardworking anon out there. I'm sure you can do it without peddling with the devils software
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is there any way to know how many times i died? it was possible in Des, DaS1 and DaS2 (not sure about BB) so why not in DaS3?
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>>335123505
Just run up to the jailers and kill them. They're always either alone or just with other jailers so it's not as dangerous as you think. Also, you can use the Gwynevere ring to regen while you explore so you don't have to waste as many estus.
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>>335123778
It's not a problem, my first character was STR. Dragonrider bow is really good for a STR character and I used Butcher's Knife as my trusty melee weapon. Really, at first I used an unupgraded Longbow with wooden arrows and still killed the jailers or at least aggroed them.
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>>335123912
>You'll get more pleasures in life when you work hard for them
I think I'm missing whatever makes people feel like this. Aldrich took me like 15 tries and I was still mad after I beat him, that nigga I did legit.
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>>335123936
>>335123926
Ah right. I'm going to have to track down the ring and bow then.
Well, I might just have a crack at it regardless. I do have 10 +2 etsus. I already made it to the catacombs but thought I'd go back and explore here since I missed out the boss in the previous area.
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>>335123912
>pleasures in life
>working hard
...
>vidya

lmao senpai
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>>335120609
>them crisp textures
>that AA

I fucking love bullshots
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>>335123926
Speaking of Gwynevere, the one we saw was just an illusion in 1 right? Is she actually somewhere out there still alive?
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>>335124121
Let me guess, you either from southern Europe or East Europe
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>>335124098
Do try it. You can safely rush most of the jailers. There are some hollows in the cells, but the jailer should be dead by the time they're ready to do anything. There's that one room with three jailers, there you can use a bow to lure them up the stairs and kill them safely. Same applies with a later room.
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>>335124156
>the one we saw was just an illusion in 1 right?
Yeah
>Is she actually somewhere out there still alive?
Yeah possibly.
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>>335121004
>It's a giant armored knight-looking thing with a mace size of the player
>I'm going to stand in front of it and try to trade hits, surely that's going to work well

wew lad
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>>335124156
I'm not sure if she's still alive in DaS3 but her ring's description says that she left her home, became a wife and raised a big family so it seems she lived a good life at least.
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What's the best bow for a Dex-character? Pharis bow seems like an obvious choice, but I'm not seeing any real use for it's skill.
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>>335124054
No trying to sound like most fuckers here being like "hurrrr u shit he so easy" but I don't understand the difficulty people encounter fighting Aldrich. He has very few attacks and can't do much once you're in range to hit him. The only problem I see is the arrow rain in phase 2 which is actually quite avoidable by just running without trying to cut corners
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>>335123508
Fight him off. If you can't find him, just play the level and keep your eyes peeled. If you enter the boss room, the invader gets kicked out.
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>>335124553
Shortbow is a lot of fun
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>>335124553
The longbows skill is the only one worth a shit. Pharis is good for better dex scaling though, and has more range
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>>335124553
Slap dark arrows on it, then try the skill out
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>>335120609
>it's another dumb /tv/ memes thread episode
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>>335122298
That's why you have a shield so you can PARRY
fuck rapier everytime
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>>335120842
Pontiff is easy to done, just dodge to your right. Also he is way slower.

The irrithyl knights are pure crazy speed.
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How the fuck do I infuse bows
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>>335124845
You don't
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>>335120750
That would be Champion Gundyr by far
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>>335124553
I've done a bow only run, and composite is probably the best one, even though it has less dex-scaling then pharis. Other contenders are the dragoniders or the darkmoon.

Pharis' only real advantage is the range, but the skill is pretty good for bursting some dudes down combined with the range and some dark arrows.
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>>335120726
Nothing in DS3 is anywhere near as bad as the giant mace-weilders in DS2 when comes to infinite stamina.
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>>335124748
>>335124987
What's special about dark arrows, do they just do better damage? I can't try them out for some time yet.
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What are some games that are actually difficult no matter what?

As opposed to the souls games where it's only dificcult if you deliberately cripple yourself by ignoring numerous prominent gameplay features, and have people tell you that you played the game wrong if you don't.
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>>335124507
That depends on if she is Rosaria. Its left kind of unclear if she is though. She is heavily tied to her and her ending up being compleatly corrupted would fit the dark souls narrative.
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>>335124996
Jailers
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>>335124610
The arrow rain is exactly what kept getting me. Everything else was easy honestly. Took me way too long to figure out how to avoid it properly.
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>>335125318
Jailers aren't even close

I will never understand why people bitch about them, Jailers were a cool enemy with a neat gimmick but considering how much you have to fuck up for them to actually hit you and otherwise can't kill you, how do you have a problem with them?
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>>335125102
They home in on enemies you're locked on to
Useless in PvP, but neat nonetheless
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>>335125185
lol
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>>335125448
Sounds neat, but I guess they don't home very well if they're useless in PvP. I might go Longbow/Dragonrider bow then, puncture sounds good against shield-users.
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>>335125102
>>335125448
This, and dark damage is pretty good, not many thing's seem to resist it
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>>335125374
I don't, but they make clearing the dungeons a chore, that fucking room with them circling around forces you to kill them one by one, if you rush it you're fucked.
It's worthy of a "that fucking level" thread.
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>>335125185
castlevania 3
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>>335124996
>Oh man, it's one of those big enemy with telegraphed slow attack for sure
>I'm just going to roll past his swings and counterattack that bitch
>tfw you ran out of stamina
>tfw he's still going

Ancient Dragon was a fucking shit boss too.

Fuck everything in that area.
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>>335124495
>>335124507
Well at least it sounds like my waifu didn't end up in as bad a situation as most other people.
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>>335125374
Agree, they went quite vanilla regarding enemy placement for these ones. They did so many vicious enemy encounters before that I was expecting a more creative use of the jailers to put the player in hard situations
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>>335125623
>playing Scholar
>decide I don't want to fuck with them
>mfw the dragon fuckers chase you if you don't kill the Giants
Fuck that place
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>>335125597
No that game is just SHIT
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>>335125951
No, anon. You're just SHIT at it.
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Do you guys summon grapists and/or do you play as one? What do you tend to do when summoned with a soapstone?

I'm done couple runs that I help the host kill enemies and generally progress. Until the host/white phantom is taking heavy damage or nearing the boss, then I'll try to finish them and get my kill.
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>>335125801
Imagine if the enemies didn't despawn in that game. How fucking atrocious it would be to face the Ancient Dragon.

Good thing I killed the shitter in one try. Just equip all the fire resistant items and run to its tale everytime it takes fly. The vanilla taught me that much.
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>>335125652
More creative use huh.
You mean like this?
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>summon for dancer
>they die at second form

pls, you dont need dps, just survive to draw aggro for a few swings
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>>335126230
Add a bunch of those faced dog-things on the lower level so you can actually die and we're golden.
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>>335126338
>dog things

No anon, you can do better.

Silver Knights.
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>>335125652
That one room with the two invisible jailers. Thank you messages.
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>>335125374
unavoidable damage
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>>335126475
Goddamn, I nearly shat my pants there. I wanted to check the window, but couldn't get there for some reason. So I decided to swing my weapon and suddenly there's two jailers in front of me.

I left a message there too, saying "stealth!".
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>>335126427
Holy fuck do I suck at drawing.
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>>335126427
Even better, those ninja skeletons that throw kukuris
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>>335126691
Now we're talking. Put one of those ice sword using things and two tree-wielding giants from the swamp near the exit and nothing gets through.
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>>335125203
Rosaria may also just be a descendant of Gwynevere. The Dancer is implied to be one, so Rosaria could be another and that could the extent to their relationship. Or she could be Gwynevere, who knows really
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>>335126230
More like for example fighting a big fucker with a shield in a narrow corridor with a jailer or two standing right behind him
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>>335126579
at no point is the damage unavoidable, through proper pulling, use of LoS, stealth or just sprint and poking you should be able to kill them without taking any damage. it requires planing and a bit of skill, but in no way is it unavoidable (although it will probably fuck you up once or twice before you work out what's actually happening).

I still feel those infinite stamina mace knights in DS2 were far worse
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>>335120609
>lure him to the area entrance
>dash to the door
>open it
>the crack is too small for him to get out
>wait for him to charge at the door, get stuck, then hit him with a heavy attack
>repeat until dead
you guys are casuals
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Only battle I thought was unfair was Twin Princes. So now I invade anyone in the area and fuck them up while they try to cross the bridge. Gotta love me!
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>>335127051
Or just lead him back to the elevator and make him fall through the hole in the ground.

Even easier.
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>>335126794
The thing with the ice sword is out of vision so you can't see it when until it's jumping down on the top of your head.

>>335126925
Ah.
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>>335122298
This is you right now.
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>>335122845
Worst sister.
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>>335127428
Holy fuck calm down satan
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>>335127428
Beautiful
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>>335122298
>SMASSSSHHHH :'D:'D DAT FUKKEN R1 BUTTON :'D :'D:'D:'D:'D:'D:'D:'D
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I accidentally gave the Firekeeper her eyes back and she asked me if I wanted to let the fire fade and I said no. What happens now?
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>>335122298
>mfw R1 R1 R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1 is the most effective PvP tactic now
Thanks Bloodborne
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>That jump and grab spamming goat demon variety
>nothin' personnel skeleton ninjas
>Knight Slayer Tsorig
>Parry Spammer Hodrick (final encounter with Sirris, aka 1 shot ville)
>The fucking niggers that pop out of hollows that render you deaf while spazzing with their infinite poise hard to fucking see combo because they take the entire fucking screen and it's hard to see the black on black limbs especially in consumed nigger garden
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>>335127925
I think you can still get both normal endings. I said no too, but went for that ending anyway.
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>>335127428

Put Regis just after the exit and it's perfect
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Fuck this fucking guy.
I've been trying for two hours and can't even get him to half health.
I just can't dodge his fucking attacks and if you make even one mistake you are dead because he 2shots me. All those fucking lightning res rings don't do shit.
And don't even get me started about the RNG bird phase where the camera is so fucked up it was the cause of 80% of my deaths.
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>>335123194
>uchi guy was hard to beat
who said that? literally killed him first time i saw him.
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>>335127991
>That jump and grab spamming goat demon variety
HOLY FUCK
AND OF COURSE *HIS* HITBOX IS GONNA BE PERFECTLY MADE SO IF HE'S IN THE AIR YOU CAN'T HIT HIM AND INTERRUPT HIS JUMP ATTACK
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>>335128078
Don't use lock-on when you're dodging the birds attacks.
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>>335128078
The worst thing you can use on him is a GS. Either use a fast weapon with the highest AR, or the heaviest weapon and try to stagger lock him as much as possible. You could always go full bitch mode and rob yourself out of the experience by using a greatshield though.
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>>335127991
>>That jump and grab spamming goat demon variety

No seriously who the fuck designed them ?

>>Knight Slayer Tsorig

Fuck him too btw
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>>335127991
>Those little niggas who pop out of nowhere in the Cathedral and gang rape you
>Anything that throws firebombs
>Spin2Win bitches and their frosty variations
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>>335128168
most of the enemies have i-frames while jumping. it's not funny. I think only the Gargoyles can be hit while mid-air, but they're technically not jumping.
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>>335128245

>Rob yourself out of the experience because you'll not experience the same thing as me and my 50lbs dark assassin class femboy
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So is sorcery still not viable in DS3?
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When he first spoke I thought he sounded like Idris Elba.
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>>335128205
I'm trying not too. But then I can't see shit. The fly up and breathe fire attack is fucking unavoidable if you don't see which direction he's pointing at and you can't even lock on on him properly for that. Other times the bird would move it's head back, which would make the game kick you out of lock on instead of turning you around which is then followed by a spear in the back every single time. Other times he just does the horizontal fire which is extremely easy to punish. Sometimes it staggers for critical sometimes it doesn't.

>>335128245
I'm using a Claymore. I gave up on blocking and just try to dodge everything. I know when my opening are I just can't, for some reason dodge his attacks. I had no real problems dodging other bosses. Abyss watchers and Dancer took me like 3 tries.
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>>335128616
So what's the deal with this fag?
His arm is in the position as if he was holding a baby and you can even hear the cries in his second phase but what the fuck is all that about?
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>>335128515
Butthurt greatshield user detected. Just go to the boss area and check the summon signs. Every fucking casual retard is naked with havel's GS + their choice of scrub weapon (broadsword, estoc, dark sword) because it's the easiest way to cheese the fight. Using greatshields on Nameless is the same as parrying Gwyn, it's the bitch way out.
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>>335128670
It's the first phase that's really hard, once he starts using lightning bolts there are a lot more openings to land attacks and regen stamina if you dodge the bolts. Problem with using shit like claymore is that you're doing the same damage as a straight sword, but slowers, with more stamina. Stamina management is the key to Nameless, since his attack window is literally a single swing with anything larger than a straight sword, or 2 straight sword swings.
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>>335128670
I just beat this guy last night for my first time. I used the Wolf Knight Greatsword. The best advice I can give you is maybe put on the ring that increases i frames of rolling. Also something important, is always stay on the RIGHT side of THE BIRDS neck. If you do that, he will commonly start using the flamethrower thing giving you a good 3 or 4 free hits.
Also make sure you are 100% safe in the 2nd phase before healing, he will fuck you over if you try to heal.
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>>335122845
warpick? doesn't look stylish though. estoc looks good but its a meme now.
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>>335128730
OCELOTTE
REEE
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>>335128670
Greatswords are fine, your real problem is dodging, and the tricky thing with NK is just that you have to learn to delay your rolls otherwise he'll smash you down at the end of them anyway. It can be a bit hard to get used to but really, all you can do is keep trying.

I for one did much better against him with a greatsword (artorias GS) than I did with a long sword. This "longsword is just as strong" meme is retarded and mostly comes from people who don't know how to use slower weapons.
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>>335129114
SNAAAAAAKE
BROTHERRRRRR
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>>335129204
t. max vigor estus chugger
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>>335128730
>he doesnt have eyes on the inside
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>>335128740

Yes of course fedoraman, Using the weak-point of your ennemies are the bitch way to do things.

I just hope you didn't kill wolnir by breaking his bracelets, kill the dragon by one shoting him by jumping off the ledge, kill Yhorm with the storm weapon and I sure do hope that you don't use any weapons that the game offers you by the way, I can maybe accept caestus. :^)
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>>335128740
get out of here rudeboy, greatshields are great
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>>335129412
Why is pepe so drawable and likable? Is he a god?
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>>335128596
No one?
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>>335129596
Where do you get Tarkus' armor?
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>>335129713
kill the guy wearing it in smoldering lake
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>>335129347
I had a quality build with vigor, endurance, str and dex all at 25 when I did this fight. A fully upgraded wolf knight's greatsword did something like 100-150 more damage than a lothric knight sword and it was way more effective at bringing down the dragon with its longer reach vertical strikes, that whole phase became effortless with the GS. I also got to stun NK twice with it fairly quickly and for all the free hits you get while he's stunned it was over before I knew it.
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>>335129801
Probably missed him, then. Thanks.
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>>335129204
imo put all your weapons except longsword and greatsword away, first phase use longsword second phase use greatsword for the stagger.

First phase you use the longsword cause its easy to get frustrated over the chicken swinging its neck around all over the fucking place. And youre basically gonna be humping it anyway when its grounded. Second phase you use the GS for the stagger.
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>>335129817
the thing is, with how slow greatswords are, you do a bit more damage but not enough to make up for the nearly 2 swings that faster weapons get for every one of yours. straightswords/thrusting swords are faster and safer, and the damage is comparable, the only thing big weapons have left is range and maybe stunning bosses, but you can do that with R1 spam anyways.
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>>335127951
with a fast weapon it was always like this
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>>335129840
its on the way to disable the ballista, before the black knight
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>>335127428
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>>335129713
buy it from the shrine maiden after killing the tarkus in smouldering lake, he's down near the lava lakes and the basilisks. if you go to the bonfire right next to the fog door and then backtrack it's right across the bridge, i think.
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>mfw I ran from the frost dude and he fell into the elevator shaft
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>>335129817
I used a LKS and still stunlocked him twice (the riposte killed him actually). I don't think it really matters that much, the big issue is, as you noted, getting the timing for dodging right because a lot of his moves have a small delay. although he's still got a couple of quick moves to fuck you if you simply delay all your rolls. You've really just got to learn the fight
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>>335127428
switch half of the jailers on the top with spinny wheel skeletons and throw in two of those nothing personnel ninja skeletons in front of the swamp monsters that look like rayman guys. Then it will be perfect
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>>335130045
I disagree. I prefer going for two GS hits than four LS hits. It's easy to get caught away in R1 spam and find yourself eating shit because you hit R1 one time too many, with the GS I find that each hit is much more controlled and I have a much easier time telling if I'll be able to sink in one more hit or not. On top of that you've got the superior stagger effects and reach, and generally speaking, with a greatsword, I think you'll adapt better to rolling over guarding which is ultimately the more efficient way to play.
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>>335127428

As soon as you take a few steps down that hallway, have a skeleton ball drop behind you.
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Why did they bother to even include magic in DS3? It's completely useless and gimped because everything is in your face 24/7
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>>335124948
this, gundyr is so aggressive I think i got a nosebleed mid fight
>his anime punch combos where he zooms across the map and smashes you down
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>mfw champion gave me more trouble than any boss yet
>on the 17th attempt i took off all of my armor and shield, and rolled around in nothing but a loincloth
>i discovered i HAD learned his entire moveset by heart, could see all of his telegraphs, predicted his shoulder, and pushed his fucking shit it
fuck you gundyr

currently working nameless king and he seems much easier, if it weren't for the two-phase bullshit
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>invade the archives after finishing the game
>get into a seemingly empty word, mobs are untouched
>spend 30 minutes searching for the host
>pass 10 other invaders meanwhile killing themselves or returning because they can't find the host
>run back to the start of the level
>notice some shiny stuff on those ladder things
>its the host and his friend curled up
>they jump down after I hit them and start applauding me for finding them
>host runs in circles around us while his friend does a one-combo-kill on me with the dancer's sword
Wish there were more players like these, most of the time I only get shitters with 2 additional summons escorting his ass
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>>335130287
>tfw the wheel skeletons in DaS3 were shit
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>>335130669
pyro is strong tho
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>>335130672
>"alright, he exhausted his move, time to puni-"
>shoulder charge
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>>335123313
But Anon, that's why I use Yhorms +5 in one hand and Heavy Dark Sword +10 in the other
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>>335130841
Except dps wise it's not
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>>335130828
they just weren't the ruinous stunlocking nightmares of DS1

it was charming how fucking destructive and terrifying those things were, but come on. I think DS3 wheelies are a fun and reasonable enemy. Maybe they could do a bit more damage, but at least they're there.
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>>335130672
He reminded me too much of that Akira using Akio AI in VF
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>bait him back to the elevator
>send the lift up
>watch the idiot fall in the bottomless pit
being a tricky cunt is fun
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i killed Champion Gundyr and was told that Artorias' Armor set is sold by shrinemaiden after killing him but its nowhere to be found. what do?
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>Sup, I heard you like getting 1 shotted if I touch you at all
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>>335131638
it's sold by the handmaiden in the shrine after CG. not your own handmaiden.
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>>335131664
"Why not lie down for a while?"
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>>335122978
I tried that but it never seemed to work out well so I just used a greatsword and would stun them and heal.
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>>335131638
look in the dark shrine, not your regular one.
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>>335131708
>>335131761
fuck, i gotta trudge through those fucking black knights again...
thanks
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>>335131664
>My friend and I are invisible by the way
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>>335131913
don't forget that enemies can't go through boss doors. Most of the time. Dragonslayer Armor seems to be a painful exception.
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>>335131664
>tfw still the best
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>>335128078

Well I did it. Put on some gear with ok lightning res to scrap a few pixels of health and just was very patient and mostly punished for his fly in the air and jump on you attack because I found it to be the easiest to punish.
Managed to pull out an ember and a divine blessing out of my inventory without him killing me somehow
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Is there a DS3 boss that hasn't been complained about yet? Which boss is fucking impossible to die to?
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>>335132073
Tree is pretty easy.
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>>335123214
>I liked the greatlance in 2
You're a cool guy
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>>335132073
Tree, Deacons and Yhorm
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>>335132256
>>335123214
anyone who used a lance in 2 is a shitter
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>>335132323
>anyone who used a lance in 2 is a shitter
Thanks.
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>>335120609
There are plenty of opportunities to attack whilst he's busy doing one of his 10+ hit combos in the wrong direction.

Add to that the fact that he has small health pool. I never really had much trouble with these guys.
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>>335132425
>Maldron the Assassin
Of all the NPCs in DaS3 I was seriously hoping that they would work that dick in somehow. He was such a fucking terrible shitter that it was beautiful to experience.
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>DS1
>there was a widely recognised meta
>but you could still build a dumb character and do well with him
>if you were good you could win with a fun gimmick
>it took effort and skill to get a low level darkwraith twink


>DS2
>absolutely incredible amount of variety
>can build anything
>use any weapon
>power stances
>could stunlock people with the right combo
>first weapons were good
>backstabs and ripostes actually did more damage than 2 R1 hits

>DS3
>rolling costs no stamina
>estus is unpunishable
>longswords and thrusting swords are broken beyond belief
>backstabs do no damage
>riposte only does damage with a rapier & leo ring
>changes to poise means that you can roll out of any attack after 2 hits, no matter the weapon
>fist weapons and claws do so little damage they might as well do 0
>weapon upgrades tied to matchmaking means you can't overcome the host advantage with a better weapon
>all damage is flat
>fights take forever
>just roll spam into estus chug back into roll spam
>meta is already incredibly stale and pvp is less fun than any souls game in less than 2 weeks

Putting aside the changes to invasions and phantom advantages, the pvp just isn't as fun as DS1 or 2. There's no unique or fun things to do because you just get annihilated by a longsword.
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>>335132125
i probably died on that boss more times than most of the other bosses
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If i finished my Questline with Yuria and Anri and then use the Rebirth from Rosaria's Fingers will i fail the quest anyways? the Wiki says you fail an NPC quest but doesn't state which one or if its randomly chosen.
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>>335132592
Let's pray that they will include him on the dlc.
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>>335120750
>He
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>>335132691
Only Sirris fails when you join fingers.
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I might wanna do a character like pic related at some point.
Closest weapon would be a whip and a dagger or a small sword.

Any recommendations for weapons and armor set? I doubt there's a maid set, but is there anything even remotely like that?
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>>335132762
thanks, i only remember talking to that person once, lol.
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>Get invaded
>Use white tree branch to hide in plain sight
>Walks past me several times until he rage quits
>Even though I have cinders basically shooting out of me
>Proceeds to call me an Alt-f4er on my profile

Being a master of disguise is pretty fun sometimes.
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One of the most annoying things to me about the game is that no matter how much I upgrade weapons and put points into stats,sometimes enemies will survive my attacks with a pixel of health. Sometimes I can 2 shot enemies and I learn to rely on that but then suddenly there's the same enemy surviving with a pixel of health. it happened more times than I can count.
I started caring throwing knifes for that reason.
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>>335132653
PvP in souls games have always been shit and I never understand how people can take it seriously.
It would be decent if you actually interacted with the opponent as you see them, but instead it's endless guessing game where the lag put their hitboxes this time.
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>>335132967
>invade
>harass somebody's with greatarrows and the obscuring ring
>host continues through the level and I can't escape before he sees me
>white branch up, turn into an object
>he runs right past me several times
>creep behind him when he goes through a door
>he comes out as I'm creeping and I freeze up in the middle of the room
>there's a moment of confused silence as he looks at me
>don'tmovedon'tblinkdon'tbreath
>eventually turns around and continues on
>keep peppering him with greatarrows
I fucking love chameleon when the game is new and everybody and their great grandma hasn't memorized the placement of every single item in the game.
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>>335120726
This.
I've started thinking that the game would be better if rolling still took stamina down but when you were out you could still roll since there are so many enemies that are just endless R1 spam.

Dodging endless R1 spam is fun and pretty easy, but not when it just carries on past the point that you can physically do anything about it.
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>>335122287
Not that guy, but that doesn't always apply, especially not with bosses. The twin fuccbois especially pissed me off with that as the two, three, and four swing combos all had the same animations and there were no tells as to when he'd use which.
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>>335130828
Yeah but the point is that you can only survive one hit since you are running low due to jailer health sap. And it'll bring back fond memories like
>>335131061
is saying.
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>>335133242
That shit works on me even when I'm familiar with the place as I'm slow enough for anyone to get an edge over me with that shit.

>Dark Souls 2, the first bell tower.
>Run around trying to find an invader.
>Run to the tiny bridge outside.
>Sudden moment of realization "wait! that thing is not supposed to be there"
>Falling down.
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>>335133198

pvp was fun in 1, amazing in 2 and just boring in 3.

I'm not one of these honobru 1v1 no estus dudes. I just wanna fight and have fun and the amount of ways you can have fun in ds3 is almost none.
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>>335133242
I break anything breakable on my way through a level so if I see a prop I know its the invader.

Hiding in plain sight as a host is super effective though, since nameplate doesnt show for invaders you can crouch behind a wall or in some bushes and be completely hidden

I did sprawl out in some deep water once and the red literally couldnt find me
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>>335127951
The only people who die to R1 spam are absolute retards who try and outmash someone mid combo. You can NEVER get combo'd for more than two swings at a time, EVER. Anything past that is you being shit or your opponent outskilling the fuck out of you.
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>>335126148
In the original DS2 I figured out a run that would get me to the boss fog every time without getting hit and not killing anything. It took maybe 10 minutes of experimentation. So it's definitely possible, just tedious.
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Why didn't they include some of the actually cool things from DaS2?
Where's the dual wield variety?
Where are bonfire ascetics?
Where's the hardmode covenant?
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>>335128078
>Bird flies up to do the aoe breath attack
>Start sprinting away the second the fucker leaves the ground
>Still get hit
FUCKING
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Boss only took me like 3 tries but holy FUCK that attack is so god damn annoying.
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How do I counter rapier or Farrons greatsword with a longsword+ shield?

In the first case I guess I can try parrying.
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>>335129412
>>I just hope you didn't [...] kill the dragon by one shoting him by jumping off the ledge
>Read the messages, instantly know its a gimmick fight where you one shot him doing some stupid bullshit
>tfw I spent like 10 min baiting fire breaths and punching his neck anyways
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>>335134643

>parrying rapier
>not just getting hit another 2 times because it attacks so fast
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>>335129590
>Full black iron + greatshield
How much fucking vit do you have? Or are you just fat rolling everywhere?
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>>335134819
i had 35 or so in the pic, and no, i wasn't fat rolling
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>>335123791
Nobody over the age of 20 either starts a conversation with >be me, nor takes seriously people that do.
Try writing a paragraph without quoting if you want people to reply to you seriously.
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He's not too bad. I got him down first try.
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>>335134932
>over the age of 20
>on a video game board
Pathetic desu. There's no fucking way I'll be a manbaby playing video game when I finish HS.
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>>335133084
Ds2 had the same, enemies will randomly decide to negate fatal blows

Like if an enemy has 25% and my r1 does 75% of his health normally he does not survive an r1 at 25% unless he literally cheats like that.

>b-but sweetspot-
No, I hit the enemy with the same part of the weapon that did 75% of its health, its not a matter of not hitting the sweetspot. The AI just cheats.

Speaking of cheating AI
>fighting Tsorig
>try to kick his shield away
>frame perfect input read backstep away from kick into perfectly trackig backstep attack that magnetically tracks me and pancakes my ass for the kill

>Hodrick parry spam
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How is no one complaining about the crablords in the swamp? I had a harder time with them than this faggot
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>>335134491
He doesn't even do that attack if you don't go under him. And if he does it while you around the neck level you have plenty of time to get out of the AOE.

In other words, stop hitting the fucking legs.

As a phantom I dreaded the times when the host went for the legs.
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>>335122489
Try the Sellsword Scimitars. Tonnes of fun.
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>>335135146
Because nobody bothered fighting them.
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>>335135242
>stop hitting the fucking legs
I wasn't hitting the legs you gaylord, I was exclusively attacking his neck. And whether you choose to believe it or not, sprinting the second he flew up would still not give me enough time to avoid the breath; the only time it did was when I was summoned for the fight and the fire breath was targeted on someone else.
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>Just beat the last boss
Oh man that was a nice payoff. Such a cool concept for a boss.

Also I felt like I had a worse grasp on the story this time than in the other games.
>Dark Souls is basically and endless loop of kingdoms rising up and people rekindling the first flame over and over
>Time to do that again
>But this time people who linked it before come back alive and you have to kill them first?
Why? Is this different from any other theoretical cycle?
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>>335132653
>>fist weapons and claws do so little damage they might as well do 0

Nigga I'm destroying people in PvP with Caestus only. No magic, no cheap tricks, just resin and a good ol' fisting.

But seriously, the Caestus is amazing when built for quality. The running L1 has deceptive range and can punish backwards rolls half the time, the damage isn't something to shrug at (although of course it isn't at the same level as most of the heavy weapons) and it can somewhat effectively counter some current meta weapons.

Just make sure you go quality with the Caestus though. The A scaling it gets when heavy infused isn't as good as the C scaling in both str and dex when refined infused.
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>>335135694
>Wow these demon fists sure are radical!
>They're fucking garbage (like nearly every single non normal weapon) because infusions are too strong to pass up
T-thanks
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>>335135797
Yeah, no, don't go with the demon fists no matter how cool they are and how much damage they seem to do on paper. Caestus or bust.
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>>335135146
I never have problems with them when they're alone. Just strafe right or left and roll when they do a slam. if you stay a specific distance it'll continuously do only 2 moves, the right/left claw smash and water jet spray.
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>>335130669
>2016
>fifths souls game
>you still cant aim magic
>magic is still consists entirely of shooting different colored balls for all 4 schools
>you now even have to compromise important healing item for magic use even if your prefered magic schoold doesnt have healing spells
>even with heavy investment into stats you still do considerably less DPS than someone who just dumps all points into VIG and spams r1 with rapier

when will these assholes learn?
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