what went wrong?
It's sad, I'm not surprised. Valve has been desperately trying to data mine personal details for a while now. They're never getting my phone number.
genius idea to me. Now it locks hackers out. I really don't see any downside.
>>335085909
Oh dear god.
Valve what the fuck is wrong with you
>>335086420
You care enough to make a fake Steam account and buy a new copy of the game, you'll care to get a Sim card for basically fucking nothing
Valve can pry my phone number from my cold dead hand
>>335086589
you really think so? I feel like that would deter a good number of hackers, so I don't mind.
>m-muh phone number!
Please. What could they do with your phone number? Which by the way, is in the fucking white pages.
>>335086668
Paying for a copy of the game is far more onerous for anyone who cares.
Also, I resent the fact I own thousands of dollars of games on my account but I am less trusted to Valve than someone with no other games and a burner sim card.
How the fuck would your phone number help matchmaking. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
>>335085909
is this fucking real
>>335085909
>phone-linked CS:GO account in order to have a better matchmaking experience
>>335087346
I just checked, it is.
what the fuck Volvo
How long until EA/Activision/Ubisoft require all your contact details to play online? They can track what you're playing and phone you up to sell you special.offers on DLC when you stop playing.
>>335085909
>>335086297
>>335087521
>>335087606
I don't really mind giving my phone number to Valve, but this borders on cringe-worthy. It's such a shallow attempt to get you to hand over your phone number instead of legitimately providing you with "better service."
The fuck.
>>335085909
thanks for the info anon just upgraded
>>335087879
>It's such a shallow attempt to get you to hand over your phone number instead of legitimately providing you with "better service."
>The fuck.
it will sort out people with multiple accounts for playing with cheats
>>335087164
You're still under the delusion you're one of Valve's customers.
The publishers are Valve's customers. You're the product being sold, the captive market tied to a DRM platform.
They don't really care about how much you paid.
I'd rather they lock out players with low hours low game count, low skin value, an extra phone number is literally nothing
>>335088059
But it's so easy to get a throwaway number through Google Voice...
>>335088264
>low skin value
can you imagine how pissed off people would be
It's just a matter of time until you won't be able to buy shit on Steam without a verified phone number. Fucking hell
>>335088312
They have blocked those numbers
I swear to god I'm the only person in the first world that doesn't own a cell phone, and Valve keeps fucking me for it.
>>335085909
>Trying THIS hard to get your phone number
Jesus christ fuck off valve
>>335086420
valve employees go work on hl3 rather than posting here thx
I just don't see the point. Why the fuck do they want my phone number to play GO?
I only play in casual, does this affect that? I don't give a fuck about competitive.
>>335088363
obviously I mean any of the 3 to qualify, I hate the retards who buys skins, but I can tolerate them, better than cheaters at least
>>335089021
>playing casual
>ever
>>335088747
they already know your browser history why being so afraid about some phone number
you are not so important bitch
>>335089265
>Just let them raid your house man you're not that important
>>335089265
>they already know your browser history
huh?
>>335089094
Who cares my friend. I just like getting home from work, getting a litttle high and playing some GO to chill. Then I masturbate and cry alone the rest of the night.
>>335089384
>he didn't know
https://www.playerattack.com/news/2014/02/17/70119/report-valve-anti-cheat-scans-your-dns-history/
>>335089483
Hey friend, I'm all about getting high and playing CSGO. I would just argue that competitive is way more chill due to the smaller team sizes and base level of somewhat competence. Casual is just a miserable experience all-around with all the kiddies
>>335089384
VAC was caught using DNS caching and Valve claimed they were using it to detect hacks and basically went 'nothing to see here'.
And VAC is completely non-transparent and is as dodgy as fuck. It injects and executes random pieces of code onto your computer.
>2016
>matchmaking
Can we keep that garbage on consoles, community servers are superior in every way, and actually have admins and moderators to stop cheats.
Oh wait, you can mod privately owned servers, guess that fucks with CS:GO's hat economy.
>>335089380
yeah and they gonna prank call you and upload results on youtube
If this is such a good way of preventing hackers, why doesn't Valve give the game away to people who register their phone number? It's full of F2P garbage anyway.
>>335089483
DUDE
What the fuck ever happened to just connecting to a server and playing a fucking game.
Why the FUCK do we need all these passwords, account verifications, pins, and so much other shit.
Its a fucking video game, not a bank.
>>335089483
Agreed. Especially when you get a server full of chill dudes who are all usually high as well. Tired of getting foreigners, kids, and immature dudes as teammates in competitive.
>>335089687
The only way to play this piece of shit game is if you pay to third party services.
>>335089618
Interesting perspective. Perhaps I will give it a try but not with my phone number.
>>335089879
Actually it's kind of like a bank for tons of people.
Some faggots have an inventory worth more than 100k USD
>If you own multiple CS:GO accounts, be sure to upgrade your favorite once since you can only upgrade one CS:GO account to Prime status with your qualifying phone number.
So it seems they're getting rid of multi accounts.
Makes sense to me. I'm not denying the obvious data mining tho
I already have Steam mobile Authenticater and the Mobile App
I dont really careNo one calls anyway
>>335089790
>dude just let them search your anal cavity you don't have anything to hide
>>335087176
Because phone numbers are the new social security number pretty much.
Do yourself a favor and don't give it to Valve
Niggas don't need my number for a fucking matchmaking system. I only play Arms Race anyways.
>>335086642
If someone at the federal level wanted your number, they could get your IP from that post. Run it against thousands of other sites and if you have ever entered your phone number for anything, for instance amazon, Bnet, YahooMail, etc... then they have it. There are probably tons of backdoors installed on your computer as well if anyone from the NSA wants any of the info off your harddrive. Windows 10 for example.
You really think it matters if Steam has your phone number?
Yeah, I already upgraded earlier.
Cheaters and tinfoils can enjoy their poverty matchmaking.
>>335090306
Should I keep my phone number only to myself?
I hope they bring this to Dota so the Peruvian kids without phones can't play.
I have signed up for phone authentication for multiple games and email etc... never once have I gotten a call from telemarketers or whatever.
What can they even do with your phone number?
>>335090383
>poverty matchmaking
you wot m8
>>335090453
if you think people in the 3rd world don't have phones, you're a moron.
>>335088415
Not a big loss.
Modern games are garbage not worth buying anyway, but just start buying it elsewhere if you want them so much.
>>335090531
Nothing.
>Tfw more companies have your phone number than people you know
>>335085909
and they continue to try and get people to link their phones so they can further data track and sell the info somethow.
>>335089879
tbf hackers and smurfs weren't as prevalent then as they seem to be in csgo, also back then simply playing multiplayer games didn't have the possibility of you getting shit to sell for dosh to buy more games
>>335090306
Which is kind of terrifying when you think about it.
Companies are slowly taking away powers/responsibilities the states have over the people, and there's no resistance to it.
Banks are now managing payments. The money provided by the states guaranties banking transaction, while the banks themselves have hold of citizens' ability to pay.
Identity guaranty is being taken too, in a way. Bit by bit.
>owning a cellphone
>>335090531
They can attach your video games habits to a phone number. They can now sell this data to somebody who can attach it to other data connected to that phone number (who you are through facebook, where you are through your phone's GPS, et cetera). It's all about offering data that a client can make a portfolio out of.
>>335090835
I really wish I didn't but when you are in College that shit is pretty much obligatory.
Nobody calls me anyway.
>>335090831
>it's terrifying to think my information is being sold to advertisers so they send advertisements my way that will just get nuked by adblock
oh the humanity!
>>335090548
Not him, but I've been to Peru and spent a couple months there. The kids and teens playing Dota all do so from internet cafes for pennies by the hour. They don't have computers or phones of their own.
>>335091260
So sad.
I really don't know what I would without internet in my life.
>>335091038
Everytime you shearched for porn or some weird fetish it goes into your portfolio in the NSA data banks and you are worried about game companies knowing what ads they should throw at you based on your steam library and playtime?
>>335091260
They don't own computers but basically all 3rd worlders have access to phones.
>>335091124
you do realize even if you don't see it's still monetizing your identity/spending habits and making a profit off you. it's literally them goign around telling people what you do all day and wanting to be paid for it.
>>335091124
That's kind of a really reductive and short-sighted way of seeing things.
Or as the Mencius would say"The people remains powerless because it does not think of the future".
>>335091408
coming to 4chan to ask questions about this probably isn't the best idea mate
>>335091408
I'm 'annoyed' by their constant attempt to monetize me into one single data entity they can whore around. i don't actually mind telling them things. I don't mind telling steam what games i like/don't like, i don't mind using the discovery Que and filling it out to help them build a better resume of the games i like. i 'resent' them taking this further and trying to link what i do that's not 'their' concern for further data to sell.
they do not ;need' to know anything I do that isn't steam related
>>335091408
>we can't do anything about it so there's no point in complaining
Mindset of a cuckold
>>335091408
What if I have 2k hours in postal 2 and I decide to run for mayor and the jews leak that information to my opposition.
I would be in shambles, how could I comment on that or recover?
It'd be neat if there was something like a decentralised version of Steam.
>>335091424
They have access to them, sure, I'm not saying they don't exist but they're generally not cheap enough that the kids spending all day playing games in the cafes on toasters can afford them. And that's saying a lot because I lived like a king down there for weeks on like $300 U.S. because the exchange rate is nuts.
>>335087879
This image is really spooky
>>335091747
What is complaining going to do? Like what has been stated before they will just shove it under the rug and make it less transparent.
By all means fill the bed of your pickup with fertilizer and drive it in the NSA building friend.
>>335091759
make alot of fucking money by suing valve, pretty easy lad
>>335091759
You won't because by the time we reach that point you have no say in 'you' everyone will just read your data file and label you accordingly, then designate your allowed job options.
>>335091408
They aren't separate entities. All portfolios will use data from as many sources as possible. With enough data it becomes very easy to fill in the blanks by comparing you to the rest of the population. This is why things like the pregnancy prediction score exists.
>>335092068
nice tinfoil
>>335086297
I think it's more an attempt to get more folks on Steam Guard (thus not needing as much in the way of their already-slow customer support on stolen accounts), as well as stopping the smurf problem in CS:GO.
>>335092491
i'm not saying it 'will' happen, i'm saying if we reach the point your public identity is being judged by how much of a game you played in the past, it means the countries at a point where your being labeled socially anyway, so you wouldn't be allowed a job of your own choosing anyway.
>>335087606
Yea better cover them names you don't want that hacker know as 4chan to get you
>>335092758
it's about data tracking the info for most likely internal use. Smurfing has fuck all to do with it, it's just like many valve 'efforts' an experiment to see who bites. they want to see if promising a 'nicer' matchmaking will make people give them the phone number, just like they try and nudge you with the store front telling you it exists before lettign you see it, adding a delay to your trades and transactions if you don't have it to try and inconvenience you to get it, etc. literally expect eventually they will do a sale where 'Steam guard' users get a higher discount if they buy whatever, than non steam guard.
It's obviously to stop smurfing.
I honestly don't get why it's a thing. How is it fun to purposefully play with people at a much lower skill level than you? It's like going into a preschool and bragging about how much better at reading you are.
>>335093091
I feel the phone number shit is something the modern smart-phone crowd are unknowingly fine with giving up.
Want to use this application? Sign in with your phone number! Totally secure! We totally won't use it as unique identification tracking across multiple platforms/services!
It's cute how well you think you people know how datamining works
>>335093276
that's exactly why they do it. the phone ends up being a central tracking point to allow them to link all your separate purchase/viewing habits together into single entities for marketing info. even if they track it via an internal Indent (like your steam id) the phone number is more valuable because it always them to track unrelated stuff you do too.
>>335093638
We certainly don't know enough. But what we do know isn't particularly engaging or reassuring.
>>335093638
Your so sarcastically snarky anon, i bet you really state the obvious while being totally complacent with everything your betters ask. can i suck your dick anon?
>>335093672
I ran into this problem when people were wanting me to sign up for Telegram since hating on Skype is the new thing apparently.
>Where's the user/password system so I can sign up?
>"Use your phone number."
>Uh, how about no?
>>335090743
>smurfs
What the fuck is this?
>yes goy-er gamer, you cannot have a good online experience unless you give us all your personal information!
>>335090652
>Not being well connected as well as a decently sized group of friends/acquaintances.
>>335093815
Not surprised. modern culture just tries to push that mindset as a convenience as well.
>moving inferno to the reserves
Tinfoil hat wearers are the fucking dumbest people
>>335090362
>There are probably tons of backdoors installed on your computer as well if anyone from the NSA wants any of the info off your harddrive. Windows 10 for example.
any proof of this would be great.
>>335094414
There is none
The shit about Windows 10 is the worst meme
>>335094289
>Tinfoil hat
there's literally no reason to give your phone number up to play CS:GO. it's just dumb. young people are too fucking dumb these days and will give away everything. hell, you retards will donate money to kickstarters.
>>335094515
Why young? We all are stupid, no matter the age. It's not a matter of if, it's about when and how.
And I certainly don't find older people are managing this better, from anecdotal observation.
>>335085909
Might help get rid of smurfs
>>335094083
thats right goy, only mirage and dust_2 from now on
>>335085909
man I'm so glad I don't actually play CS:GO
Or own a phone
>>335093107
My thoughts exactly.
Only logical non data farming kike reason I can see for doing this is to see if people behave differently when their phone number is directly associated with their online persona.
Maybe you will hesitate to call someone a nigger when anyone looking at the replay to judge you can get access to your phone number.
A shitty social experiment, and one that backfired when Blizzard attempted to do it.
Still, if I ever feel like it I can buy a burner carrier chip for 8 dollars
>>335094686
It won't smurfs always exist because there will ALWAYS be people who get off on bullying people weaker than them, and those people will always seek ways to do so.
plus in games where your rank can affected by others around you and limits your que time people who are on the top end will always seek ways to practice without risk/excessive delays
>>335094796
This will be implemented on DOTA 2 and TF2 as well. Don't kid yourself, why would Valve say no to millions of potential phone numbers?
>>335090362
>they're already fucking you without the lube, what's an inch more??
Just the first sentence leaves me speechless.
>>335095112
>Only logical non data farming kike reason I can see for doing this is to see if people behave differently when their phone number is directly associated with their online persona
maybe you should have given yourself a minute to think
>>335093107
>>335094686
This. But people loves overthinking stuff.
>>335085909
I've got nothing to hide is the best fucking mindset prove me wrong
I'm not some pedo that has a giant loli folder waiting to be shown to the public. The only people who are for privacy to the point where they would let safety and anti cheating measures take a back seat to it only do so because they have illegal shit to hide.
>>335095112
considering people are just as massive cutns on facebook with their 'real' account that's not going to happen.
in blizzard's case it was, as usual their laziness bit them in the ass more than the idea. they tried to use account name data that had been entered 'privately' was stated as being used thus as the new public data, and that's where the blow back came. telling people identification they'd entered in some cases half a decade or more ago is now publicly viewable got them ina tizzy. noticed they don't get the same blowback when they asked you to enter a universal name with extra numbers on the back accords all blizzard games.
>>335095395
you have nothing to hide but 'why' do they need that information at all? I have nothing to hide in my house that doesn't mean you can come in and see what i'm watching on tv just because I buy something from you.
>>335085909
One step closer to the verification cans...
>>335095613
>'why' do they need that information at all?
I'm sure they have plenty of uses for the data in terms of market analysis and such and such.
>>335095905
and i'm perfectly content with using their discovery que and 'telling'' them the types of games i want so they can help show me the games they have like those I may want to buy. i do not however, 'want' them to have my phone number, because everything 'outside' what games i like, is none of their concern.
>>335096150
Good goy valve will tell you exactly what to play..
I don't know why Valve won't add some kind of subscription service for 128 tick servers (assuming server costs are the reason they don't currently use them). It'd be a lot more helpful for the players and in turn also be better for their public image than this.
>>335096150
Then don't give it to them.
Problem solved.
Have you retards never head of two-factor authentication? Being able to verify with something you own and something you know makes for great security.
>>335095613
Implying that information if even being taken and recorded
Implying a company like valve wont have more to lose by selling or maliciously using this information
implying that analogy is valid
imfuckingplying anything malicious is being done here and isn't to improve the quality of matchmaking and reduce abuse
>entering you real name is fine
>so is your real address
>and your credit/debit card details
>but oh shit a fucking phone number
I really am for privacy, but all of the freak outs this seems the weirdest to me.
Burners are still a thing, and even then you have do not call lists and all kinds of other shit.
If giving out a phone number scares you, you probably shouldn't even have steam on your PC to begin with in all honesty.
>>335092758
All because children on TF2 and CSGO get scammed doesn't mean we should be punished for it. All these checks won't fix retardation from these people. Fucking Steam is a gaming service not a banking service with all this phone verification shit
>>335096661
>Fucking Steam is a gaming service not a banking service
This hasn't been true for a while, and you know it.
An entire marketplace selling digital items for digital currency is a very big part of steam and only gets bigger.
>>335096837
Still not a banking service
you just got btfo
Good, smurfs and hackers can eat shit.
>>335096837
I liked it a lot more when I didn't have to wait a week inbetween being able to trade something I buy from the market
>>335086420
What if you're unable to give them your phone number for reason X? Then you're fucked
>>335097969
What if you forget your password, you're fucked.
>>335097969
if you're too poor to have a phone you probably have a shit connection anyway, as people have already stated its like 8 dollars for some shitty burner, gaming is not something you should be doing if you can't afford 8 dollars
Can I just use a phone emulator for this shit? I don't have a smartphone and don't intend to.
Maybe russians get filtered into russian games with it.
>>335096393
valve only want my money, I only want them as a store. therefor them allowing em to find games i want benefits both of us. anything beyond that is retarded.
>>335089380
>dude just let them fuck your wife you're not that important
