ITT: games you really wanted to like but couldnt. Ill start
> surprise reboot of a cult classic
> great graphics and music
> surprisingly funny
> cool setpieces and crazy shit happening
> virtually unplayable
>virtually unplayable
Get good, I'm left handed and I still could play it. 10/10 best 2012 game.
>>335032025
this nigga knows his shit
Uprising is literally perfection
>>335031702
>> virtually unplayable
You gotta be kidding me
The on-foot levels were maddeningly repetitive and not fun at sll. The game could have had better controls, but even good controls wouldnt fix terrible gameplay. Flying levels were a million times better.
>>335031702
>virtually unplayable
Say that to my runs at 8+ difficulty.
Though whoever though Hade's Heart was a good idea for a boss can go fuck themselves.
>>335031702
>> virtually unplayable
You're an idiot
>>335032025
>>335032138
I'm Left handed as well, great fucking game, multiplayer is also great. I still take it out every now and then and play some levels again or try to fuse weapons to make better ones or to play multiplayer.
>>335032771
>>335032138
>>335032025
Lefty here, I played with the default controls and had a blast as well.
Underrated level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIIS4HKNavI
>>335032936
I'm in the minority of those who really enjoyed this chapter. I like gauntlets. And the layout for some of the rooms was really cool.
>>335033083
There's like 3 chapters worth of gimmicks going on those rooms, i love it
It should've been chapter 24
If this came out in 2016 /v/ would explode because of how Treehouse rewrote the entire script for the English version
>>335033537
To be fair, 90% of the jokes wouldn't make sense in translation.
>>335031702
Go home, casual
I wonder if the Starfox control complaints echo from KI:U, as in suckers gonna suck and the rest of us have a fun shootemup. The reviews are almost identical
>>335035026
Maybe. All git gud games get a shitty rap.
The only thing I don't like about the game is the weapon randomization; I just want a default, high-difficulty viable weapon per class.
>>335031702
baby hands?
>>335032025
Everytime I hear the excuse of git gud to justify a game it seems like the game failed, and this comes from an avid Souls and MH fan.
>PSO2 is my idea of the perfect game.
>not released outside japan officially.
fuck you sega, fuck you so hard.
any of these shit games
>>335035691
In that case, you should know that many people consider those shit as well because they die to the first nobody they fight.
>>335031702
Its honestly one of the worst RPGs I've ever played.
>dull as fuck combat
>that fucking inventory system
>slow as balls
>le quirky story
Only redeeming thing I can think of is that it automatically defeats low level enemies when you return to an area
>>335035691
But the line has to be drawn somewhere. There's nothing difficult about controlling this game, it's just not conventional, and then people start fumbling around for no reason. Imagine people complaining that guitar hero has bad controls.
>>335036320
forgot the pic
>>335036320
Did you post in the wrong thread?
>>335036389
>>335036402
nvm, my bad
>>335031702
The controls are weird, but I was that weird kid who put a lot of time into Metroid Prime Hunters, so the controls made sense to me. I wouldn't be surprised if a port and/or sequel was made for the NX with regular controller or if they're still supported, Wiimote + Nunchuk. Sin and Punishment 2 controls would be perfect for Uprising
>>335035691
The game has 99 difficulty levels and 3 controls schemes with customizable layouts, at some point it stops being the game's fault
>>335035916
git gud
>>335035026
Kid Icarus didnt use nostalgia as a crutch for sales
>buy game
>have fun
>love characters
>love story
>love music
>suddenly Chapter 14 hits
>have to wait for ally turn to finish, takes fucking forever
>no skip function
>have to mash X through unskippable cutscenes that take forever
>suddenly two firebomb tanks out of nowhere after base capture
>armored as fuck and heavily guarded by artillery so good luck trying to get in
>Lancers keep missing point-blank hits and end up doing pathetic damage
>put game down and stop playing
>6 months ago
And then to really dig it in, I come to find out 3 never released stateside, Kurt, Riela, & Imca were removed from PxZ2, the PS4 and PC rereleases are just straight, no-update ports, and Azure Revolution became an edgy Final Fantasy knockoff.
Fate really didn't want me to like Valkyria Chronicles.
>>335036794
It did use Smash Bros though
>>335037061
>It did use Smash Bros though
I dunno about that. We didn't get a new Ice Climbers game after Melee.
>>335031702
>virtually unplayable
The control scheme needed to be better but the game was FAR from "virtually unplayable". I never had a problem with the game controls being unresponsive or frustrating- in fact, I always felt very comfortably in control and had mastery over the situation. The problem is that holding the 3DS like that for extended periods hurts like a bitch. I desperately wish for a console version that uses Wiimote + Nunchuck, because that would probably be the perfect way to play this game.
Kid Icarus: Uprising is a fucking gem. A bit unpolished, sure, but a gem through and through.
>>335034675
Doesn't mean /v/ wouldn't explode.
>>335031702
For every improvment there is one thing I don't like compared to 1.6. Couldn't make it past 50 hours with several attempts to like it and dropped it.
>>335031702
playing that game gave me handcramps like no other
guess I'll wait for emulation
>>335032936
It was Chapter 9 but shittier, it could have used proper minibosses.
That theme though is amazing and the flight segment is really fun despite how short and gimmicky it is.
Still stomps the shit out of chapter 24
>>335032025
>>335032771
>>335032823
holy shit i'm left handed too and I fucking love this game. Are there a lot of left handed peopl e on /v/?
>>335037163
Raise your knee and support the 3DS on it, played for over 6 hours straight and didn't feel nothing
Though i don't actually feel pain when holding normally, just a bit unconfortable, the only time i really felt pain was trying to play while lying down, don't know why that shit had hurt so much
>>335031702
I think the defenders here will hate me for agree with you, but I agree: the game is virtually unplayable.
Not because of bad controls. I think the controls are actually really good, and intelligently thought out. I think that the game just shouldn't have been on the 3DS.
Even with the stand that came with the game, I still could only play for about 10 minutes at most, and by then my hand started to hurt. I could play on 8+ and do well (Fuck me on 9, though), and it was legitimately fun to play, but the 3DS was so fucking small, and the shape of the unit was just not conducive to that claw hand grip you had to have for how often you were hitting the trigger and moving.
If it was on the Wii or the Wii U, and you were using the pointer, the game would have been much more comfortable to play, and also wouldn't have looked like a blurry mess, which is my only other complaint with the game.
Kid Icarus: Uprising is an incredible, amazing game that never came out on a system that would have made it as such.
>>335037619
Nah, I think even the most avid fan of KIU can agree with this, it would be a much better game on a home console. But it's not unplayable at all, you really need to do something about that pain, man, because it's not normal.
>>335037497
I don't think it's comparable to chapter 9, the only thing they have in common is the length
But eh, i won't try to defend 19 so much, i love it but i know it's a niche level, it all comes down to appreciating the different rooms, if someone didn't think too high of them then the chapter nas nothing left to offer
Aside from the boss, That dude is great
>>335037805
>I think even the most avid fan of KIU can agree with this
As someone who doesn't feel said pain and would lose a lot of precision by playing with a pointer, i have to disagree
>>335031702
I found the game playable, just really fucking repetitive, both in gameplay and dialogue. I was ready to strangle Pit by the time Hades is introduced. Hades is probably the only reason I kept going.
>>335037972
To be fair, the Wii U would have been the perfect console for it as it has the resistive touch screen.
Unfortunately that's not going to happen now.
>>335037805
>you really need to do something about that pain, man, because it's not normal
I think it was pretty normal for most people including reviewers, and it was also the reason Nintendo included that stand with the game in the first place.
Generally speaking I don't get pain like that playing other games on the 3DS. Keeping my hands in a controller motion, or doing some touch screen stuff never hurts my hands.
KI:U is a very hectic game and demands much more of you in a very uncomfortable position on a tiny little device. Or it did anyway, when I played it on my original 3DS.
I have a New 3DS XL now, so maybe it would be more comfortable.
>>335038209
Yeah but also makes me wondeer if holding that heavy controller with one hand would be such a good idea
>>335038209
Control Scheme would need to drastically change. You don't hold KIU like a traditional 3DS game and it can't be simply just ported over, even a stand would make it a burden with the same scheme.
>>335038494
Are you dumb? Putting the controller on your lap is much easier than doing so with the 3DS which is much smaller and has the joystick a lot lower as well.
Fun fact: The guitar in Dark Pit's theme is a Mandolin, a Greek guitar. So his theme wasn't meant to sound Spanish/Mexican.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n06_YWnD11I
>>335039413
>So his theme wasn't meant to sound Spanish/Mexican
They fucked up, then.
>>335036579
This is pretty much my favourite rebuttal ever.
>>335039559
It's PIT SOMBRÍO according to the shitty Sm4sh Spanish announcer.EEKEH
>>335039413
>Mandolin
>Greek
?
>>335039670
Pit Sombrero.At least it's not the French announcer saying Ryu.
>>335032025
Funny how people used to shit on this game for the same reason that people are shitting on Star Fox Zero right now. I'm sensing a pattern of people who can't play a game that uses a control scheme that isn't twin-stick face buttons, or keyboard+mouse.
It's like these people have never entered an arcade before.
So what's the best weapon you guys have crafted?
>>335039931
A Rose Staff that i can't get into details about 'cause i used it for a fusion by mistake;_;
Ever since then i've been trying to make a Rose Staff just as good or better, but i can't
>yfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCqnOZ_8nyY
>>335033537
>>335034675
Eh. In a lot of cases, phrases were tweaked and some new jokes were added but the overall script was the same, it's just that the delivery was a lot different. Keep in mind that the Japanese version was a lot more bland overall.
It's basically like Western Digimon Adventure to Japanese Digimon Adventure.
>>335039853
Everyone still praised Kid Icarus in spite of its controls
So no, that excuse doesn't apply
>>335039703
To be more precise it's a bouzouki, a type of mandolin.
>>335031702
its not a reboot, its a sequel
unplayable? Im afraid you might have some hand deformations anon, have you seen a doctor about it? people with regular hands can play this game.
>>335039931
>tfw I have raptor claws with +4 in speed and bonus damage for my dash attack
Shit's crazy.
>>335039931
an endall arm
i've plenty of fusion projects i never finished, as i stopped playing the game, though
>>335031702
>>335039931
I can't remember if I crafted or got as a drop my +6 Ranged +4 Melee +5 OD Capricorn Club.
Still, the weapon I used the most was a drop, +6 Arties with +2 OD and +4 Freezing, beat the whole game on 9.0 with that.
>>335031702
The controls were good in that game and the level design was great but it was the Jap lottery bullshit that turned me off.
>>335039413
In theory, it was supposed to be mexican-standoff cowboy music.
That sounds like a classical guitar, too. Mandolins have a more metallic sound, like a banjo.
>Call out a nintendo game for having shitty controls
>Nintenfags freak out
From kid icarus to star fox zero, nothing changes.
>>335035026
Any game with a nonstandard control scheme always gets fucked reviews because it's not bog standard dual stick shit. Any game that tries to take advantage of the system gimmick to try and give it legitimacy, no matter how well it's actually done in practice, will always get shit on for its controls.
Phantom Hourglass. Prime Hunters. Skyward Sword. Kid Icarus. Starfox Zero. Wonderful 101. All shit on for their control schemes rather than ever picking apart the game's actual flaws and judging it fairly. All good games with admittedly glaring flaws, but not enough to make them truly bad. The only one I'd really argue that the control scheme is a significant detriment to is Phantom Hourglass, but only in the case of movement, not attacking or tool usage.
Why is she so perfect /v/?
I'm with you on that one.
Kid Icarus was my favorite series but I couldn't get through this one.
I had no trouble with the controls, and I love being entertained by gameplay and dialogue at the same time.
But I had such high expectations for it when it was being teased. I thought it would be an open world game where you can fly freely and explore.
>>335040790
Because she's a loli who is actually eons old. /v/ tends to love those.
How many times have you guys listened to the OST? Guess which songs I'm playing
http://vocaroo.com/i/s09xULgbmdha
>>335031702
>lay down while playing it
whoa I just fixed the controls
>>335037052
I feel your pain, anon. But if you install custom firmware on your PSP you can play the third game with an English patch and enjoy, easy peezy.
>>335040961
Are we there yet?
>>335040809
>I thought it would be an open world game where you can fly freely and explore.
How did you manage to completely miss the mark like that?
>>335031702
The OP deserves a prop for trying and appretiating everything else.
Although I'm still surprised that people cannot nail this game's controls.
Once you learn to use your pinky finger for extra support, the game becomes easy to play.
Even more so if you are laying down and use your legs for support.
>>335039931
All my weapons are hot garbage because I refuse to go over 300 value.
My favorite are a balanced pair of Pandora's Claws with Melee Combo+4 and In-Peril Attack Boost+6
I also have a flintlock staff with 4 stars ranged, Forward Dash charge+4 and in-peril attack +3
It hits nearly 3K with Energy Charge level 1+ Trade off but it completely impractical
>>335041308
>Even more so if you are laying down and use your legs for support.
Wot
>>335041202
It was really early on and I only watched a few videos.
Also, it was what I wanted before they announced the game. So when I saw the videos I was only looking for ways it would fit that mold.
Fuck I wish they would make one like that. Maybe next gen.
>>335041526
Like this.
>>335041840
this is how I played kid icarus and I never had any problems with the controls
>>335037619
Nah, super comfy. Pinky supporting under right corner, ring curled around R and touching the power port. Perfect grip, perfect control.
>>335041918
>>335041840
>>335041526
>>335041308
The game also came with a support for the 3DS.
>>335041925
>>335041925
>>335042073New to mobile posting, sorry. Used my cam to take that picture.Used the Kid Icarus stand to hold the cam at an acceptable angle without sliding off my chest. :^)
>>335041840
>>335041918
I played similarly, but sitting straight and only one knee raised
Lately i've been managing to play without any support though, tweaking the sensitivity up for less touchscreen movement helps wonders
>>335042046
And it's shit.
I blame that thing for a significant chunk of the criticism that the game got.
>>335039853
Nerds are retards and can't think for themselves, so I think it's a matter of the initial reaction.
It's likely the initial reaction to Kid Icarus getting low scores was "fuck it, I'm getting it anyway, fuck reviewers" and thus everyone rolled with that and now it's mostly liked on /v/
Meanwhile the initial reaction to Starfox Zero was to suck reviewer dick and no one wanted to disagree with the majority, ergo from now on saying Starfox Zero is a good game will make you part of a minority.
Prove me wrong if you wish but I can't help but see you guys in general as a bunch of puppets easily manipulatable by whatever the first few posts on a subject are.
>>335042161
Curl your ring finger around R there, though. You're just adding unnecessary bulk to the stylus holding.
>>335042073
Nice hair faggot kill yourself
>>335037619
Nailed it. It wasn't impossible but I'll be damned if it wasn't frustrating and extremely painful, at least for me when I was playing for about 1 hour a day, non-stop. Agreed that the console choice was wrong, always felt the game was sorely in need of the wiimote & nunchuck control scheme.
Ultimately I guess I'm in the same boat as OP. Tried but could never enjoy it properly."Hurr din play gam shut up" posts incoming. I finished it, Hades and all, true ending and all. Even played some online.
>>335042521
Hurr din play gam shut up
>Long, tedious flying section
>Long, tedious level
>Die to this faggot 4 times in a row, forcing me back to 8.0
So I eventually realized that those flames were unavoidable and had to be spot-dodged but how the hell were you meant to avoid the sword hits?
>>335031702
Is it worth playing this for the qts?
>>335042732
The answer is always a forward dodge.
I've been playing around with Pandora's Claws for LvD
What are powers that can link with the launching kick?
Meteors seem to work but I'm wondering if it's possible to land an Angelic Rocket while someone is airborne
>>335042736
Sure why not
>>335042521
Hurr din play gam shut upAt least we agree on best girl
>>335042250
True.
KIU still gets hated outside of its dedicated threads though. Mostly because of "le meme humor xD", shit controls, and the Smash bias of all things.
Now that makes me want to pick up Starfox Zero just to see how retarded the reviewers are.
>>335042923
Too bad they ruined it by giving her a body.
>>335042272
Why seeing a bald person triggers you so much, anon?
Are you afraid of ending up like him?
>>335043017
Come on, there's not going to be a comparison. Kid Icarus is a unique and innovative masterpiece while SFZ is strictly by nature a remake.
It's probably fun but it won't change your outlook on life like KI:U
>>335042073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADkLBtSGKMo
>>335041925
>>335042073
>>335042161
I did exactly this stuff, and it was comfortable to hold, but when the action heats up, it just puts too much tension in the hands for me.
If it's good for you, then alright, bro, I'm jealous. Myself and many others really wanted to enjoy it, but it hurts the hands for us. I know I'm a pleb for it, but a more comfortable system would have allowed me to enjoy the game more I feel.
Hell, I bet playing it with a mouse and keyboard would have been great.
>>335040130
No they didn't, it was an endless flood of "THIS GAME SUCKS WHY ARE THE CONTROLS SO SHIT". Stop pretending you know shit.
>>335042736
They all have great personalities and have different interactions through the whole game, so yes.
>>335031702
wtf is this some starfox gaem?
>Circle pad supported
>but not twin stick mode
The only reason to get one for this and they screw up, how
>>335043615
A flying game in which you go to space a lot? Yeh
>>335036320
Pokeman is better once you actually start using items like repel.
>>335040106
>It's basically like Western Digimon Adventure to Japanese Digimon Adventure.
I think everyone who prefers the English of THIS short film to the original should be lined up against a wall and shotgunnead to the head point blank so you're not making me very hopeful for the 'quirky' US localization
>>335031702
It played like a fucking dream and is one of the best games ever made
>>335040106
Oh also to >>335033537 Fire Emblem changed the personality of a character radically from "shy girl" to "STRONG EMPOWERED WOMAN THAT DON'T NEED NO MAN" for obvious reasons along with other subjective personal morality-based changes
If this game did anything similar to that then I say fuck it.
>>335043829
Why are you implying that the localization for Bokura no War Game was okay?
>>335036510
>I was that weird kid who put a lot of time into Metroid Prime Hunters
That's a good point actually. I found the controls simple as fuck when the game released, but I played a shitload of Prime Hunters as a kid, and I remember having a pain with that when I started
>>335044086
>If this game did anything similar to that then I say fuck it.
Nah, they didn't change anything. They just changed a few jokes, that's mostly it.
>played on XL without stand
>hands never hurt
>now play it on NXL
Maybe it's because I have gorilla hands. I don't know.
>>335037052
>>love characters
>>love story
>>335037619
>>335037805
I'm extremely hypermobile, but I never felt a single instance of pain when playing the game.
>>335044360
You'll feel a lot of pain when i 3v3 you!Seriously though why hasn't a room been created yet
After hearing so much about it I really wanted to like it you know? It never worked out. Made it to that poison guy in a cave trying to have fun but it never came. And I don't like crafting things which turns me off of stuff like rune factory 4 for example.
Man, buying a 3ds was a shitty decision. Kid Icarus was mazing though, don't know what you're smoking OP
>>335042073
JUST
>>335031702
fell sorry for you mang
>God Eater
>Professor Layton
>Zero Escape
All series I really want to like for the settings/general aesthetics, but I can't fucking stand their gameplay genres.
>Nintendo now have two (2) franchises that do Star Fox better than Star Fox
>both have had no talk of a sequel whatsoever while Star Fox keeps getting shitthe second is Sin and Punishment you plebs
>>335044567
MH is one of these "love it or hate it" kinds of games. I can totally get why you didn't enjoy it.
>>335044189
That's totally fine since some jokes are utterly untranslatable. Translation requires writing skill in order to flow well and creativity for the bits you have to redo to make sense in a different language, but the final purpose should still be to maintain the feeling of the original text.
I really feel that, even if in one case the translated version is "better" by my own standards, it STILL shouldn't be allowed because then it gives others the freedom to alter shit. It's a bit like the free speech argument of "you should defend it even if you hate what's being said".
It's sorta complicated. Translators admittedly often get zero credit for a hard job, so some of them get really uppity and try to take an unfair amount of credit to make up for it and come across as douches.
>>335043278
>Straight Shota Secrets
Oh my. Palutena is into some kinky stuff.
>>335044567
>>335044774
I played MH1 on the PS2 and thought the controls were unbearable, then I played the Wii MH Tri and enjoyed it even with the motion controls (I switched to the classic controller permanently once I could afford it though)
Maybe it's also a matter of control? I don't remember exactly what it was like but something about the PS2 controls made me think "nope, no way am I playing this".
>>335044086
Hades and Thanatos were made a lot more flamboyant, and Pandora a bit more sassy, but that's mostly because they were so bland and straight forward before.
The issue here is that these characters barely had any character in the first place. The Western version is very much the best version of the game's script in a lot of ways.
>>335042736
Veridi alone tbqh makes it worth
>>335044710
>Star Fox keeps getting shit
Not really. Zero was a surprising announcement after everyone thought Command killed the series for good. After this, it's probably gonna be another 5-10 years of silence for Star Fox.
>>335044950
I mean didn't they basically tell the Localization team to do whatever the fuck they wanted to get the west's attention?
Frankly I'm surprised that the script wasn't changed more.
>>335044567
Find a friend to play with. Game will become a blast, I can guarantee it because I was like that too. After you git proficient you'll enjoy it even on solo.
RF4 is based on Harvest Moon gameplay which is based on NPC interaction, laid back gameplay and grinding without caring too much. If you don't care about NPC interaction and comfy gameplay you really shouldn't be playing this or HM series.
>NoA turned a dignified and intimidating Hades into a saturday morning cartoon villain.
>>335045207
Sakurai himself said that
>>335045356
For the better.
>>335045356
>dignified and intimidating Hades
Jap Hades was boring and his voice cracked every other line.
>>335045356
>intimidating
I'll give my respects for anyone who can even slightly take japanese Hades seriously with that voice
>>335045374
I guess he knew how bland the script and its delivery was in the original version.
Did Sakurai say he liked the western version more, or am I thinking of Cowboy Bebop and some other director?
>>335044567
Sounds like it's just not your type of game.
Today i will remind them
Reminder that Sakurai said there won't be anything like a sequel for at least 25 years
>>335045548
Hades did, as a joke.
>>335045548
it's lower then that by now, we're on 21 years
>>335045495
>I guess he knew how bland the script and its delivery was in the original version.
I'm pretty sure he wrote the japanese version himself, his justification was that, as said here a couple of times, a lot of the dialogue was meant for the japanese people and wouldn't translate well to the western audience
Not sure if he said what he thinks about the west localization, gotta look that up
>>335045616
Almost there!
>>335032025
lefty here with 101%, this was glory
>>335045548
Sakurai says a lot of things. At the end of the day the only thing that matters is if a higher up demands a sequel or not.
>>335045794
STATE YOUR FEATHERS USAGE ON HADES' TREASURE HUNT
NOW
>>335044950
see
>>335044796
Even if their version was better I can't give my approval of it. On one hand you can end up with scripts better than the original, on the other I don't want to give some bearded Twitter hipster who ass-kissed his way into NoA to make a girl in the next Advance Wars tell a character player to stop mansplaining to her or whatever.
>>335032025
>>335032771
>>335032823
>>335037543
>>335045794
LEFTIES GET OFF MY VIDYA
You are all a bunch of degenerates and deserve to burn in hell for eternity
Either change your sinning ways or perish the spitting flames of Beelzebub. You should know St. Peter has no doors for your kind and your current path leads you to Chairon's vessel.
Repent or be damnèd.
>>335046565
Wow, rude.
>>335046565
Favorite boss?
>>335046565
I was ambidextrous.
I CHOSE LEFT
>>335046565
>>LEFTIES GET OFF MY VIDYA
But I alreadyleft.
>>335046707
>>335046642
>>335046645
>>335046651
>>335046707
Mods! Please ban these miscreants! Sinister hands do not deserve to be on this Christian image board!
>>335047817
That's notright, anon.
>>335031702
>fo4
>protagonist talking, whining, ma shawn
>>335039853
There's something really weird going on with that game. It's like we're on some paralel universe where analogs are the standard control mode for rail shooters.
>>335035916
I love levelups that only up my level count and nothing else
>>335048660
Is that even possible? I thought at least the HP would always go up unless you had hit the cap.
>>335048949
Even if that was the case, +1HP and no more from a levelup isn't fun at all.
>>335048949
It is, but the likelihood is so rare that you might count yourself lucky to witness it, depending on the character. There's a webm of this happening with PoR Ike of all people which is an exceptionally rare thing to experience.
>>335049040
Anon, you would love Wizardry.
>great atmosphere
>great writing
>great level design
>after 2 hours realise that the guards are completely retarded
>realise that the whole game feels unremarkable due to the fact that I've played a million other stealth games prior to it
>>335049284
Oh i'll get right on that, i hear wizardry 4's a grand time.
>>335049349
That one is different, since you only level up at specific points in the game and your party is made of summoned monsters from the previous games. In regular Wizardry it's awfully common to level up, gain 1 HP and lose 1 point in every other stat. And the game auto-saves.
>>335049793
>In regular Wizardry it's awfully common to level up, gain 1 HP and lose 1 point in every other stat.
I never got why some games did this. Why should I lose stats for being more experienced?
>>335049956
Because fuck you, that's why.If a stat goes down to zero and you get another -1 level up it becomes 34. The cap for every stat besides HP is 18.
>>335049956
>Why should I lose stats for being more experienced?
That's how life works.
>>335032025
Same. Fucking pussies that have every control scheme adapted to their needs and still suck at it.
