What's the worst weapon design you've seen in a video game? Something that was just unnecessarily ugly, tacked on, or under performing to the point of being useless.
Personal vote's for pic related.
>Metal hand grips
>Mag fed, from a belt design, which should have been the final "magazine" option
>Massive and heavy compared to other options
>very lacking damage in full auto (more of a game flaw, but still)
>ONLY weapon for the 5.56 round
>damage comparable to combat rifles
>Miniguns with perks like explosive, two shot, plasma, etc. outclass in DPS by miles
>no bayonet, or undermount ripper
>no unique version for new iconic gun
>Made for "power armor large hands", could have been a belt fed like the M240B, M-60, or even M249
and I guess my own personal gripe.
>NOT AN M-60. WHICH WAS IN FALLOUT BEFORE.
finally somebody that understands how shit this gun is
i literally renamed mine to "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?"
hell you could just dedicate this entire thread to fallout 4's smear-shit-on-walls retarded design aesthetic or whatever you wanna call it
>>335026713
Fun fact: the combat rifle and the combat shotgun look almost identical
>it needs to look more sciency
>slap some circuit boards on it and call it done
>>335027826
It's actually based on the real Lewis Machine Gun, the designers didn't make up some shitty design, they just edited the Lewis design a bit. /v/ is just cancer with guns, you guys always act like you're knowledgeable but you're absolute fucking morons.
>>335026713
>Worst weapons designs in video games?
Is it ever a problem?
I mean, it DOES work... right?Stop questioning things you fucking pigs, just play the game. It just works.
>>335029147
Yeah, lewis gun is from the fucking 1st world war. 1950s had proper assault rifles like the AR-15 floating about.
>>335029147
>Lewis Machine Gun
I thought it was based on the Vickers machine gun
>>335026713
To be honest, this actually reminded me of Fallout 2 for some reason.
>>335029372
Shut up, Todd. You know damn well that it doesn't.
>>335029147
>take real gun
>shit it up
>but it's okay because it's BASED on a real weapon
>>335029147
looks bad todd
Someone post Monado Prime
>>335026713
it is better damage wise than a 45 combat rifle
>>335029147
>just edited a bit
More like completely gutted the design.
Why would a WW1 era weapon be in this game anyway? Why not a modern assault rifle? Why would they put this abomination here?
It's like they went out of the way to make the worst possible decisions.
>>335029896
and I forgot the image like a fucking faggot I am.
>>335029971
>>335029147
Except the Lewis is a fucking light machine gun, not an assault rifle, and its a complete mishmash of several other machine guns.
"Though called an "Assault Rifle," this evil mutation actually has more in common with a medium machine gun. It has a large barrel jacket based on that of the World War I Lewis Gun with the narrower part at the front flattened down to almost nothing on the default barrel (it is restored if the barrel is lengthened), a coolant line and two ports near the muzzle like the water jacket of a Maxim or Browning M1917, the swinging charging handle of a Vickers Machine Gun, a receiver and grip resembling that of the MAS AA-52, the foregrip of the FN M249 SAW series, a small antiaircraft-style front sight, and a side loading box magazine like an FG42."
-imfbd, Fallout 4
>>335029445
>>335029445
>Shut up, Todd.
Ok...
>>335029896
>Why would they put this abomination here?
Because it looks retro-futuristic like most of the other weapons in the game. muhrealismfags could sort of apply in 3 and NV, but 4 has a consistent theme it's sticking to.
Not saying it's a good design choice, or something fans asked for, though.
w h y
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>>335030925
And it looks completely shit and its desire for a consistent theme with this weird frankengun actually just causes MORE inconsistency as all the games, 2, 3, and New Vegas, use either real guns, or in 1's case some of the time, fairly practical designs for fake guns.
>>335026713
Fallout 4 is such shit, it's Skyrim all over again.
I'll never buy a bethesda game again, unless it's a new Fallout by obsidian.
Why do they need to make every game more shallow than the last?
>>335028859
well atleast it has the excuse of being handmade
>>335031180
No disagreements there.
>chance to use some actual neato 50s Armalite AR designs
>nah lets just butcher a lewis gun
>>335026713
>very lacking damage in full auto
Use my mod, you've probably never heard of it, it's so minor that it never picked up that many impressions or most people didn't care enough about the shitty "balance", I did.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/5358/?
Simple change to remove the damage penalty.
And also http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10008/?
Again, small mod that fixes this shit.
The game still isn't worth playing.
>>335031006
Looks like bl2 shotguns
>>335031424
Even in Todd's first Fallout game "Fallout 3" they had cold-war guns like FNAL and chinese kalashnikov-knockoff.
Fallout 4 is a fucking disaster both in sales and design
>>335031180
1, 2, 3, and NV have a mix of real and fake guns. 4 made a bad mistake in using the weird MG AR abomination. Like I said in my first post, the M-60, or some sort of modified retro styled M-60 could have been used in it's place.
An example of a context modified gun is the m-60 from avatar.
>>335031424
>Chance to make a good RPG
>Nah let's just make it shallow as fuck and remove player options by adding a voiced protag with no personality
>Also levels has got to go i ain't here for numbrs n shit n'msayin nigga?
>Quad barrel shotgun
>Has a hinge implying breech loaded
>What appears to be a foregrip is actually the magazine
>Directly attached to one barrel yet affects all four
>>335031582
Fun fact number two: the quite nice looking "chinese assault rifle" is in the games files just not used because ???
>>335031006
>engine limitations lmao
Reminder that it is the current year.
>>335031653
>grineer weapon that isn't the sniper
That's where you went wrong to begin with.
>>335031582
>FN FAL
The AR in FO3 is based off the CETME and early G3s
>>335029147
>/v/ is just cancer with guns
>inplying this thread isn't filled with /k/omrades
>>335031006
>>335030947
I like these though. They look clean.
>>335031582
>Fallout 4 is a fucking disaster both in sales
I don't know if I should feel sorry for you, considering FO4 is their best and fasting selling game so far, which is why they went ahead and decided on three more DLC adventures over the previously planned amount.
>>335031729
>not using the hek
the hek is like the best weapon that isn't gimmick shit like the tonkor that will be nerfed by U19
also
>snipers
>ever
Give me mateba, suka!
Fallout 4 was disastrous as far as weapon design goes.
Honestly wish they'd just remake FO2, leaving everything as is but updating to the RPGFPS gameplay
>>335031729
nigga have u seen their grenade launcher?
>>335031941
>not calling it the kek
Also tonkor nerf? Damnit. I figured they would eventually kneecap what quickly became my favorite gun in space vietnam merc ninja simulator. I might lose 5 forma.
>>335026713
Any oversized one-handed sword. For some reason I'm okay with two-handed ones, but not if the blade is too fucking thick. Dragonslayer is about the maximum.
>>335032129
that gun is so cool
man that sweet angular shape.
it's getting me wet
>>335032151
There hasn't been anything to suggest a nerf beyond conjecture drawn from memes and history. They're just another one of those mad shitters who screech about killstealing.
>>335031006
They look like fisher price toys
>>335032231
I am so with you
fucking faggot weeb rubbish
it looks unwieldy
>ITT: gun nut /k/ faggots whining about "muh realism" in fantasy/sci-fi fiction
BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS
>>335032361
>>335032562
I'm confused, that's a real M16 right?they were joking called Mattel 16s during the war, or something.
>>335032447
dumb drakeposter
>>335031424
if you take too much of a design you have to pay for it. thanks to Call of Duty and Battlefield and other high profile fps games those licensing prices are through the roof.
Bethesda didn't want to pay so they made their own "inspired by" weapons
>>335032804
They could have had none retarded designs and not paid for them. Stalker gets away with it by having the guns mirrored to real life
>>335032447
>not comprehending realism relative to a particular universe
>>335032970
then bitch at them for it, what do you want me to do to stifle your autism?
>>335032970
And they are cheekis
they have no money to claim
it would be a waste
>>335032739The grips were originally made by Mattel. The first M-16's failing was blamed on Mattel, whom many soldiers argued must have made the guns. Their logo was later removed from the grips, though still made by Mattel, alongside the guns themselves being upgraded.
>>335033264
This doesn't change the fact that Bethesda are trash at making weapon designs
>>335033245
I want you to stifle mycock in your mouth round the back of Tesco ;)
>>335031940
>fastest
Yeah, but that was thanks to the huge hype train
They did that part well
>Best
I don't think so, Skyrim is still the best selling
Granted it has 5 years on Fallout 4, but the ratings for Skyrim are still sky high, and those of Fallout 4 on the other hand...
I doubt that Fallout 4 will be the best selling Bethesda game ever, just the fastest so far, thanks to their hype build up
>>335033585
>Fallout 4 on the other hand...
Is doing financially better than Skyrim did in the same amount of time on the market.
This is the new golden goose.
>>335033683
Well, I didn't deny that did I?
I did say that Fallout 4 sold a lot faster than Skyrim
But I am willing to bet that these sales won't last as long as those of Skyrim
>>335033364
I cannot argue
honestly I do agree
they have shat the bed
>>335032447
Yeah, except the guns in FO4 look like shit from aesthetic standpoint too. Pipeshit looks awful and there are way too many of them in the game. Two guns share the same model despite using different ammo. and fuck the LMAO ENCHATED WEAPONS! Why not make it like this "two round burst receiver uprage" "incediary, plasma explosive ammo upgrade" and so on instead of that magic crap.
>>335026713
This piece of shit look like a proof-of-concept prototype, not an actual military grade weapon.
>>335035302
Forgot pic.
>>335031424
I wish based Millenia would come back to make mods and would make AR10 with all those parts as mods for FO4
>>335035272
I felt that plasma, incendiary, explosive and etc rounds should have been either named weapon unique, and/or ammo types. I liked NV's ammo types and switching. It made me pick what rounds I wanted to carry into battle and which ones I would save for raiding certain areas.
I also feel that the legendary weapons and armor really got rid of the old fashioned unique ones. No more Reservist's or victory rifles! Not a single "100% unique" gun like That Gun or This Machine. Not even any really unique perks you can't find on a legendary weapon asides from maybe the gun Paladin Danse gives you. And as a smaller gripe the damage dealt by +fire attack weapons is a DOT. It isn't x% plus DOT. It's just the DOT, making it do less damage than it seems.
>>335031424
They could have told a half truth and made an M-16 out of all of those parts, and then claimed it was a franken-gun of all of them. Wouldn't have been completely false.
>make a game with androids
>no "that gun"
One fucking job todd.
>>335029552
>>335026713
Design isn't really that bad, even the people at /k/ aren't sperging out like you guys were when it first came out.
>>335038239
I refuse to even. Is that supposed to be better than the half scissor normal sword? It looks like some kind of shadow puppeteering device.
>>335038239
that's a weird looking airplane
>>335038783
It's essentially a lightsaber, lad. The blade is just decoration.
Still looks pretty bad without context.
Has Japan ever released a game that DOESN'T have retarded weapons?
>>335039432
dark souls
>>335026713
That shit looks like a maxim machine gun had sex with a M60.
>>335032562
Pre-1980s America was fucking hardcore.
Every damn gun in this game looks like it's made of cheap plastic. the 10 mm pistol isn't the ugliest one, but it's up there.
>>335040630
>Every damn gun in this game looks like it's made of cheap plastic
Everything looks like that.
>>335038239
this is some deviantart tier shit
>>335026713
pretty much anything from warframe that isnt the latron
>>335026713
Why did bethesda choose this shit design instead of keeping the R91 rifle design from F3?
>>335039472
>fuckhuge swords
>not retarded
>>335041457
Forgot pic
>>335041267
>not liking the Lex
>not liking the sleek looking Tigris
Also Warframe at least keeps to specific design conventions for all the faction weapons. Grineer guns are all psuedo-organic looking, Corpus are mass produced boxy guns, and Tenno guns are smooth, metallic, and even incorporate wood at times. Infested weapons also look sutiably corrupted with hints of the original weapon showing in the designs.
Some I admit do look pretty silly though.
>>335026713
You DO know thi weapon was designed with the power armour in mind? Check the artwork book, they wrote a full page about it.
>>335042604
Even then the gun still looks retarded as fuck with the bulky Power Armor.
>>335026713
>bethesda changes the design of the assault rifle
>doesn't change laser or plasma rifle much
>hunting rifle bolt is on the left
W H Y
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Y
>>335026713
Guns from gears of wars.
Characters were ugly too.
>>335026713
Man Fallout 4 has some fucking awful looking guns. Just thinking about the three hundred thousand pipe gun variants completely puts me off from playing it, let alone the rest of the games faults.
>>335044975
The left side bolt triggers my gun autism like nothing else.
>>335044975
Because the devs think that it looks cooler when you see the action and casings flying. Other reason is to simplify the animation
There's always this abomination.
>>335046498
I think they wanted to show off the animation? I dunno, it makes no sense. Wouldn't the ejected casing hit the shooter's arm?
I actually love this design, fight me. It's striking and unique.
Maybe it should've been renamed the LMG instead of the AR, but it looks fine.
>>335048574
It was supposed to be an LMG. They decided that the game had enough weapons and scrapped the AR and demoted that thing to its position
>>335048742
Well, that's stupid.
>>335029971
>Lewis Machine Gun
I like the weapon, it looks cool. It just (in my opinion) doesn't fit with the rest of the game. It just feels...out of place. I mean most of the other weapons look more 1950s/WW2 ish (ballistic weapons that is).
The AR reminds me a bit too much of a squirt gun. Not to mention it is horrible.
>>335047780
What the fuck. Is that supposed to be a drum magazine?
I like how the gun that actually looks like an assault rifle (combat rifle) uses .45 pistol ammo yet the game's "assault rifle" which looks like a bastardized WWI MG uses modern rifle ammo.
>all these tacticool fags
Fallout 3 had the best and most consistent weapon design in the series.
It had a couple of huge mistakes, but nowhere as jarring as finding a P90 in a retrofuturistic setting for no reason.
It was still a terrible game though.
>>335048976
Yeah, the magazine is way up front yet the ejection port is back by the trigger.
>>335049095
I know, right? for fuck sake bethesda this isn't hard
>>335049137
The inclusion of meme weapons in Fallout 2 like the P90 and the Jackhammer shotgun always annoyed me.
>>335026713
The reaper from Perfect Dark
>0% accuracy
>there's a fucking fan or something over the muzzle, blocking your own shots
>works better as a melee weapon
>spin up time is like a good 10 second wait before it can even fire
>looks like an alien dildo
The reaper has a little novelty in how ridiculous its design was, but once you realized it was less useful than the tranq gun it was worthless.
>>335049095
>actually looks like an assault rifle (combat rifle)
It looks almost exactly like the shotgun... both of which look like shortened BAR's... which seems pointless given the more-practical designs that already exist in Fallout.
Coupled with >>335048742 and the arsenal in general it's a weird case of Bethesda both trying too hard and hardly even trying simultaneously when it comes to design.
How would this even work?
>>335049741
Why do Japs like to put keychains on their weapons?
>>335049741
It does not shoot anything. You fire blanks that make the blade hypervibrate so it penetrates better
>>335026713
I would like to say without being a Bethesda fanboy, I think Fallout weapons are suppose to look unergonomic as fuck.
>>335050020
Well you think wrong.
>>335049438
Even the melee weapon part did ridiculously low damage in multiplayer, it should have been an instant kill or close to it.
The concept for the weapon was good but unfortunately the execution was very poor.
>>335049741
Better pictures actual show the barrel exit at the end need the point. Its just a very stylized bayonet on a revolver, really. Just a focus on the bayonet part.
>>335050020
>>335049741
It doesn't actually shoot a projectile, it just fires a blank when the trigger is pulled to make the blade vibrate. It's really just a low tech vibroblade. Besides, at least Squalls has a grip suitable for use as a sword. It's Seifer's that's really bad.
>>335051108
>literally a pistol with a hugeass blade glued on to the front
>>335050970
>cycling through ammo types to see that sexy reload
>>335031006
I love how they admit they were too fucking lazy to make a new set of animations for a new kind of laser gun. How can people defend Bethesda when even Bethesda says they're all lazy bastards?
>>335051964
FF likes to not think too hard about how everything would fit together practically in their worlds.
It's supposed to be part of the 50's pulp sci-fi aesthetic.
Practicool /k/ shit would look incredibly out of place.
>>335057410
>M-60
>practicool
you fucking nigger
>>335047780
>implying ppsh-41 is not the most superior form of weapon design
>>335047780
You have to bend over backwards to make this shit work.
Kinda wishing for a mod that'll replace that horrible """""assault rifle""""" with AR-10's all across the in-game world merchants and all.
>>335059915
>bethesda keep this, laser rifle and plasma rifle designs
>change the assault rifle despite being the only practical looking one
>>335060213
I'd replace it with G3 variants like the HK33, HK33K and shit. Maybe do the same for the combat rifle, so you can turn it into an MSG90
I love that stupid sexy roller-delayed blowback family
>>335060430
Why not both? CETMEs and Armalites can co-exist together.
It bothers me that so many weapons in Fallout 4 are cut down by default and you have to mod them to get stock versions.
>>335060894
Its because every addon is a straight upgrade. There's hardly any sidegrades in the game so having a stripped down version be shit is optimal in that kind of system
>>335060213
That top charging handle is sexy as fuck for some reason
>>335060894
>>335061443
>Battle rifle
>Cut barrel by half
>Decreases accuracy
>Decreases range
>Gun now also functions as a flamethrower at short range
I'm all for it.
>>335060808
G3 family and AR-10 family coexisting I can actually see.
>G3 family is heavier, somewhat higher damage and recoil
>AR-10 family is lighter, more accurate than counterparts (except vs PSG1), more attachments resulting in strange shit like M231s
I mean, both the AR-10 and G3 gave birth to an assload of variants in multiple roles ranging from SMG to sniper to MG. Hell, the HK11/21 branch of the G3 family even had a .50 BMG machinegun sketched outbut never made. G3 senpai could have a .50 reciever as its final upgrade.
>>335061559
>>335062302
I feel strongly about this.
Is there a mod for Fallout 4 yet that replaces all the vanilla guns with real funs? Like in new Vegas.
>>335029147
BUY MY FUCKING GAME IT HAS GOOD GUNS IN IT
