With today's increasingly casualized gaming environment, there comes a time when people just want to play an actually difficult and thought-provoking game.
games autists enjoy
>>335003559
I just don't want my hand holded the whole fucking time I'm trying to play a game
And atleast this game doesn't have any tumblr landwhales
>>335003479
>thought-provoking game
We already have those, it's calledGone Home.
>>335003559
>Game requires even a modicum of intelligence
>AUTIST
Hello neo-/v/
So... Autism general?
>>335006371
Not supporting that guy but Dwarf Fortress requires a lot fucking more than a modicum of intelligence.
>>335003479
sorry but looking at numbers aren't fun
>>335006619
Not really. All it requires is that you can read a wiki and enough patience to learn the terrible gui.
Rest of the game is eazy-modo.
>>335006654
dwarf fortress isn't a spreadsheet simulator, it just has low quality graphics
>>335006781
Maybe you're just really good at video games, anon.
>>335006619
>>335006781
Or you could just play Adventure Mode.
The recent update made adventure mode such a chore.
Yes toady, I'm sure to your mathematically genius mind it's entertaining to have your screen filled with useless bullshit. Also, why are zombies so fucking ridiculous now? They're like minidemons
This game was great before they removed Fabricate Claims
>no graphics
Fuck off
>>335006909
Is IV worth it over III?
>>335006909
Building a spy network isn't that bad. Now that I have played with the new update for a while, being able to claim several provinces at once is pretty nice.
>>335003559
>>335006654
>>335006806
Even though that's admitedlysubjective, OP's point still stands that it's a game normalfags not only wouldn't want to play, but they'd probably wouldn't be able to play if their lives depended on it.I know I couldn't
>>335007140
No, I mean they're removing that too. As in you can't get a CB unless you pick up religious ideas.
https://twitter.com/producerjohan/status/723029100915359744
>>335007457
>>335007224
Didn't know that. I guess it would depend on what tech it unlocks at and how other methods of getting CB's are balanced. If it unlocks at an early tech it shouldn't affect too much.
I'd have to see how it was implemented first, although it is worrying.
>>335007791
>If it unlocks at an early tech it shouldn't affect too much.
Good luck forming the Inca. And, like, doing jack shit after starting a new game.
I think /v/ underestimates just how normal most normalfags are.
My sister's boyfriend wouldn't play KOTOR because the turn based combat was "too boring."
>>335006909
>they removed Fabricate Claims
what???
>>335003479
>When you finally understand how missiles work
>The missile finally hits its target
>Sets off a reactor or missile storage
>Entire enemy ship just blows the fuck up
Though I need to figure out how to set up a proper MIRV now.
>>335007876
What about tribal conquest/fued? Couldn't you just have a CB that is automatically given to you at the start of the game?
Also, what if they nerfed the penalties for declaring war with no casus belli if your overall tech is low?
Again it depends on how it is balanced.
>>335008108
Explain to me the benefits to removing fabricating claims.
>>335006781
ehh maji
>>335008160
Fabricating claims doesn't make any sense from a real world perspective. It was added for purely practical gameplay purposes, so if they are able to balance the game in a way that doesn't require it, why wouldn't they?
>>335008160
They could remove the penalties for no casus belli where everyone could annex at 200% cost at the early game allowing for a rapid change in the balance of power over the first few years of the game thus adding more variety to the late game?
It really depends on how it is implemented. It could be good or bad.
>>335007894
yeah, if it isn't a AAA made in the past ten years or a 'childhood classic' on the n64 odds are they haven't played it
>>335003479
psh...do you even try ?
>>335008442
Oh, you mean remove Causus Belli altogether? One of the most integral parts of the game which alone codifies the early, mid and late game?
Again, the benefits. If they want to add shit go aheadalthough it's just wishful thinking ATM, tell me why they have to remove it.
>>335007976
>>335008485
this guy gets it, dork is casual now
>>335007976
I understand completely.
>>335007976
tried to get into it a while back because "kewl robutt fightan!" but goddamn the old ps version was pretty bullshit,
at least exa had it color coded and allows for diagonals.
>>335008552
It really depends on how it is implemented. We will see how shit or not shit the decision is when we can see it in action.
>>335007224
You know, I heard jake talk about a lot of scary shit that they were considering for 1.16 (passive corruption from simply being high tech, for example), but this is beyond fucking stupid.
>>335008801
Correction - We'll see just how much it ruins. Because by nature it cannot add anything.
>>335008845
Funny thing is I was already off the ride when I realized States were a thing. And I've defended literally every single update before this (except 15 year truces, fuck those)
>>335008065
the first time I played this I never found any aliens after like 100 years or more
the second time they were massively ahead of me in tech and I pussied out and quit
>>335008947
States aren't as bad as I was expecting to be honest. Though, I still think they need to only apply to provinces that aren't on your home continent. If your capital is in Europe, any provinces you take that are in Europe should not have the states shit applied to it.
At this point it feels like Paradox is just adding overcomplicated features to the game for no reason at all.
>>335003479
I wouldn't call this difficult. Once you understand how to play it you basically have to set yourself up to fail.
>>335008840
Came here to post this. I've still never beat it.
>>335008996
I loathe the aliens that use nothing but Meson.
Because every fucking time they just spam a billion fighters that descend upon your ships and destroy them in a single hit because fucking meson goes through everything.
I will never forget my anger when my 20k ton flagship with weapons all over died to one dinky shot.
Though I found the best strategy is to just fight fire with fire and have carriers of your own disgorge fighters to counter theirs.
And missiles.Lots of missiles.
>>335008442
It sounds like you want to play a 4x game, not a grand strategy game. Political maneuverings, such as acquiring a casus belli, are like 90% of the fun of GS.
>>335009058
Maybe they're ruining EU4 as quickly as possible so they can hype up EU5?
States are too unbalanced, the areas in europe and china are literally x10 better compared to everywhere else. And again I fail to see what improvements they make to the game.
>>335007976
The game comes with a tutorial video disc, choosing this is cheating.
>>335009227
more like HOI4
I fucking hate that time period.
>>335009227
>Maybe they're ruining EU4 as quickly as possible so they can hype up EU5?
More likely they're doing it to beta test the mechanics before they decide to implement them for it. EU4's pretty much hit market saturation at this point. Pretty much anybody who's interesting in these types of games already own it. Financially it makes sense to test stuff in EU4 than fuck up one of their new releases with it.
>>335008840
my fellow african-american mate
Only normies use "normies".
Literally this.
>>335009654
Well, sure, but the official term "boring-ass faggots" can be confused for something else.
>>335009659
What?
Anon normies play MH.
MH is the CoD of handheld games in Japan.
Most players online suck ass at MH.
>>335009659
Pretty much, although the series is "branching out" nowadays
What exactly defines a normie?
>>335009818
Shit.
>>335009792
If Dorf had online play people would suck there too. Lonehanta only.
>>335007112
generally speaking (SOURCE: THE AUTISM ON VG) no. As a matter of fact I really find Vicky series a real PITA (MUH HISTORICAL FIDELITY) and like an underdog like SUPREME RULER ULTIMATE
No, I'm not a normie, as I collect and play alle the general series (panzer, pacific, people's) and (PROTIP) find the STate-of-the- ART in:
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>>335009792
Go make a normie play the first Monster Hunter
We're not talking about 3 or 4 here anon
>>335009958
This image gave me PTSD
>>335009898
>Lonahunta only
>Not having a cadre of buddies to pal around and do stupid shit with
>Nor the perfect hunting bro that you have great sync with
Granted it needs to be built upon a connection before hand.
You'll be quite pressed to find a random like those.
>>335010043
Why? He's only cakewalking the tomb.
>>335010043
If only you knew the horror
the horror
>>335010391
Ouch.
I think one of the dumbest shit I do in DCSS, not that I've played in years considering the updates keep making it less fun, is make whatever the fucking random genetic demon race was and then combine that with the random god.
Holy shit that was hectic.
>>335009792
Japanese normies are the equivalent of the rest of the world's turbo-autists though
>>335010490
You're thinking of Koreans.
>>335010391
Normies will never know what it means to face a 20-headed Hydra without magic or Firebrand weaponry.
>>335010479
I remember doing this back when Chaos Knight was still a thing.
>>335010479
Sounds awesome, the "updates" really killed my interest too. 15 runes and then quit forever.
>>335010585
Bro don't underestimates the Hydras. I've seen them oneshot Mi.
>>335010641
They... removed Chaos Knight?
Fuck me why?
>>335010585
Fighting that rune protecting hydra with a trident was pretty fucking intense.
>>335010671
Sigmund is bad enough when you encounter him on D:2.
>>335010671
I could never get into roguelikes personally, but I love watching the games and seeing what madness comes out of them.
>>335010693
Idk. It's been a while since I played, too.
>>335010723
Sigmund is just a meme. There was nothing more dangerous than Kobold with fucking Electrical Dagger on D1.
>>335010723
And when you finally have all the most broken shit in the game and can tank fifty ancient lichs and dragons, these fuckers come along.
Still remember my first visit to Zot, I was like "oh I'll just get ++rF 2ez". Jesus Christ.
>>335008065
I fucking love the shit out of this game but god sometimes there is just TOO much freedom in that game, I am retarded when it comes to making and naming my own line of ships
Also quick question
How does civie production work and does civilians make their own ship designs?
>>335003479
Exanima.
Half drunken brawling.
Half physics taming simulator.
Fuck that awesome shit pile of greatness.
>>335010861
> electric dagger kobold.
Throw stones.
>>335010861
>Ijyb with a Wand of Disintegration
>>335003479
is this boatmurdered
>>335010947
thanks for reminding me to reinstall
>>335010969
>Using Wand of Disintegration on living thing for the first time
Those blood splash effect was really visceral.
>itt: shitty, below average games which only redeeming factor is being overly complicated.
>>335010998
I love how shit and boring that was until one guy with a sense of humor made it the greatest thing ever. Who'd ever thought people who played Dorfs were generally dull?
>>335003559
>implying autist on /v/ isn't a compliment meaning 'not a shit-eating casual'
>>335010928
Civilians will produce and upkeep their own designs and ships.
You just need to have the right tech for them (Colony ship = Cryo, Tankers = Gas Refining) as well as having an updated civilian class engine. After that they'll slap together their own stuff based on their total funds which you can invest in.
I find them notoriously inept when trying to get them to transport facilities or colonists at times though, so it's helpful to have your own designs when you want to force something.
>>335011037
Y'elcome.
Could you tell me how the combat works?
I get about a 4:1 win loss and don't know why.
Puglism is my easiest win by far but sometimes I just lose and have no clue how.
>>335011093
it was a very early group LP to be fair, with no one really knowing what to do apart from leaving dozens of mystery levers everywhere
>>335010998
Doubt so, i don't see the river nor the elephant capture grounds.
No scorched lands or giant iguana too.
>>335011139
Depends if they are talking about a genuinely hard or complex game or a voxel based building "survival" proc-gened crafting game with RPG elements.
Aw yiss time for spaghetti
>>335011356
press alt and take that again.
On anything below Immortal, the most casual game in existence where you win by doing absolutely nothing.
Otherwise, 3 years of planning strats, gauging locations based on a million factors and beating the odds.
>>335011159
Timing and distance, once you know the reach of the weapon you're using and its speed you can get a lot better and not swing like a wild retard, at least as far as the game allows
>>335011148
So make ALL the ship parts first THEN mark the parts civilian and only then they'll make their own ships?
Huh thought you could just make the engine and other specialty parts and civies will add on from there
Also what is your setup?
I do pre-Newtonian tech, no warp gates with year and population adjusted for modern times
So far in my play throughs I barely had enough resources by the time I was decently teched and last i remember had to rush the fuck outta a scout model ship with warp engines because spent the vast majority of my resources dedicated to making civie resource ships, I didn't even have a dedicated military ship lol
>>335011403
It's a stock picture
Here's one of mine
>>335011603
Crap. I am already at that stage...
I was hoping for insight along the lines of how to get that random "twice the speed" swing that the AI almost always gets and you get randomly.
Anyone else feel like these autistic games are just a huge waste of time? I mean, I love playing them and have lots of fun, but compare the 12 hour sessions they take compared to just doing in a mission in Kid Icarus for an hour it's ultimately inefficient fun.
>>335011713
>inefficient fun.
Anon what are you doing
>>335006781
>game requires third party information source to be playable
Into the trash.
>>335011713
Is the journey worth the trip or is the trip worth the journey.
Hardly a waste but one takes WAY longer to get some sense of satisfaction then the other.
>>335011713
>inefficient fun
One keeps you having fun for 12 hours, the other for just an hour, and you're complaining?
Space Station 13
>>335003479
I haven't played Dwarf Fortress since 2009, I don't plan on ever playing it again after having lost the Yuri (Girl's Generation) modeled world.
>>335011696
swing from behind yourself
>>335011713
Why would you be playing it for 12 hours if it wasn't fun through out those 12 hours?
I mean maybe the fpm (fun per minute) ratio isn't to your liking but I assure you the longevity of the games are what makes it worth a buck
You'll stick with it for YEARS before it gets unfun and by then that faggot kid Icarus player already ran through at least 12 games by the time you're finished
So looking at it from a fpm point of view autist simulators are highly efficient form of fun compared to mainstream games
>>335012095
>You'll stick with it for YEARS before it gets unfun and by then that faggot kid Icarus player already ran through at least 12 games by the time you're finished
That's the issue, I'm always looking to experience new things. That's what led me to play these games in the first place.
I can't just keep playing the same thing over and over, but it's so fun that I can't stop
All my games need at least 20fpm or I drop it
>>335011916
>I don't plan on ever playing it again
>i lost my shitty mod
nigger WHAT
> not being comfy while dwarves write books in your library, party with the tavern keeper, and in the next update, automatically manage their own damn work orders so you don't need to assign jobs like "more clothes to stop people going insane" and my favorite "more booze so no one dies of thirst"
>>335007209
>I know I couldn't
That's because the game is pure RNG.
I remember starving to death one run after going through a backpack of food, because the game stopped spawning food. Had a fully charged portable cooker but nothing to cook.
>>335012457
And people ask me why I bring 6 apples.
>>335007457
Tell me about this game. I need a good citybuilder, and I don't have the ability to download most modern games, what makes this one better than the older simcitys?
>all these casual vision-enhanced strategy titles
Step up your game, chaps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s5SLynswuw&t=4m30s
>>335012676
You don't build city in TRANSPORT Tycoon.
>tfw no orc fortress
Dwarves are cool but green is best.
>>335012676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jANoofUA7jI
>>335012749
>dis git finally 'as a good idea
>>335012749
>smelly dumb greenskin scum
>tfw can't get into DF because city managment games don't interest me
At least there's adventure mode, but then I feel like im taking away from those who like the Fortress mode, and should just go back to roguelikes like Angband and Nethack
>>335011561
>babby's first grand strategy
I really don't understand how people enjoy that past casual play. I got tired of that and moved to Vicky 2 after I beat it on tried the 6th difficulty. Rather than artificially handicapping, I can just pick a weaker nation or set a more difficult goal in Vicky II. It actually feels satisfying.
>>335012901
>because city managment games don't interest me
What a terrible fate
>>335012735
What in the flying fuck. I am confused.
>>335012901
I have the opposite problem. The UI is too convoluted for me. Five years later and I'm still not sure how releasing caged invaders without spamming mechanisms works.
>>335003479
>>335012949
Sorry, I tried and just can't have fun, even though I'd want to
Normies love Football Manager and that game is more complex than the autism simulators /v/ likes
>>335013061
Seriously how the fuck do people play that shit? I've tried about 3 times now and I just give up.
>>335013061
This Is a good point. In sports games they have a manager sim part and those can be pretty difficult to maintain
>>335012901
I can't get anything to happen. I press all the buttons but all the dorfs just keep running around and I can't pause or use my mouse aaaahhhhhhhh
>>335012902
Except once you reach regional power in Vicky II the game becomes easy.
Civ 5 on Deity never becomes easy, it's a struggle until theusually bitterend because the AI will always be better than you.
>>335007209
I still chuckle when people think that babys first Rogue-like is hard.
>>335011620
All you really need to do is research the base tech and develop your own civilian engine (size greater than 25 and power less than x.5) and then the AI will take it and run.
Having the civ engines are really nice since then you can build freighters and such as your own specific civilian craft, which don't require overhauls or maintenance.
As for my setup, I like to start pre-Newtonian but fudge the numbers a bit to make everything flow smoothly so I can set up a good little production in the Sol system before I go off.I also drop the difficulty modifier because I'm still learning how most things work with each other.Like for the life of me I can't start communications with an alien race without it ending in bloodshed.
>>335007894
I didn't play Kotor for the same reason.
>IF YOU DON'T PLAY A GAME WITH SHIT GAMEPLAY BECAUSE YOU GET A MEDIOCORE STORY FOR NERDS WHO LOVE STAR WARS TOO MUCH YOU ARE A NORMALFAG
Fuck off you newfag with your shitty retard terms like "normie."
>>335013061
They don't necessarily pay attention to and/or minmax the stats, though. People I know just pick their favorite club and try to hire players they would've liked to in their club based on how the players do in real.
That said, football "enthusiasts" are still pretty autistic when it comes to the sport.
>>335003479
>an actually difficult and thought-provoking game.
Why don't you give us an example, because it certainly couldn't be DF.
>>335013931
ADHD normie detected
>>335014239
Good one, puzzle games are really the only games that fit OP's description.
>>335009292
Over half of EXA's campaign is the tutorial, taught by an anime waifu, and put in digestible chunks that make it even easier.
I'd pick the PS1 as harder than Exa.
The only one I've played extensively is DCSS in which I have one four rune win with a Human Fighter of TSO
I have entered the realm of zot once and never died there, feels good
I have played nethack a lot as well but honestly I lack the patience to deal with the tedium required to play that game properly. Honestly shit like Elbereth is just retarded busywork and shouldn't be so freely available/strong
>>335014104
Newfag cuck who can't get a gf detected.
Kotor is a shit game and Bioware never made good games.
>>335014383
>TSO
>Not 15
95% of the post-game is demons. Does TSO even do anything in a 4 rune run?
I wish more games would use less healthbars and stat grinds and just give more punishing combat that revolves around learning how the enemy fights.
>>335014680
Not really, I am aware Oka is better for that but I like playing paladin characters and wasn't min/maxing
If I was I'd be playing a minotaur
>>335006781
Reading a wiki is like reading a guide to play a Souls game. I worked the game out myself without the help of the wiki back in 09, it's entirely possible
>>335014396
I think you should try Dragon Age 2, they took the views of people such as yourself on board and added 'press X to awesome' combat to keep you entertained
>>335006781
>reading the wiki
>not figuring shit out yourself
Where's the fun in that?
I had to convince my friends not to read the Don't Starve Together wiki when we all began playing, and because of that we were laughing at every dumb mistake we made. Good times.
Following a guide/wiki is just the same as following an arrow and on-screen instructions.
>>335013061
Football Manager players are anything but normies.
>>335014680
He's good for the abyss and his powers are reasonably useful, summoning angels and cleansing flame is a good aoe if you have some invocation skill - but it's not optimal by any means for 3 rune
id play drawf fortress if not for the shit GUI
>>335014919
Dragon Age 2 is literally worse than DA:O which is impressive considering for all the praise it gets here that game is shit too.
The Witcher 3 is another example of something holding itself back. It's the worst out of all the 3 games solely because when I pulled back on the stick to walk towards the camera, Geralt decided he needed to fucking slowly do some "realistic" turning shit that made it feel like playing through mud.
>>335014992
Going completely blind into Dorf Fort is a major pain though
You souldn't read up on every single module, but reading a quickstart guide explaining the UI and farming or something is advisable
>>335008065
>>335009183
Game name?
>>335015352
Aurora 4x
![Morrowind_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KVIG84D.jpg "Morrowind_1[1].jpg")
Fucking pic related. People play oblivion or Skyrim and try Morrowind but >m-muh swings!! muh swings!!!!! and they puss out. If you dropped Morrowind because you didn't like the mechanics you're a fucking normie and you should feel ashamed.
>>335006781
Pretty much this. An unintuitive interface and graphics that don't mean shit doesn't make the game "difficult", it makes it bad.
>>335014997
Did UTV ever return or was he murdered?
>>335015452
>implying Oblivion is any easier for a beginner
Back when i first tried it, i was getting my ass handed to me. Around 2 characters later i got the hang of it but even with Heavy Armor and generally a tanky build there's still challenge.
>>335015715
That was because level-scaling in Shitblivion was fucking retarded.
>>335014997
>Football Manager players are anything but normies.
Heh, thats most of UK. When a new football manager comes out, it is the day with most people taking time off work in UK. This is true not even making shit up, ask a britbong.
>>335015769
>Le lev0leen iz sheet meme
No.
>>335012748
I didn't know anything about the game anon, that's why I was asking. Screenshot made it look like a city builder.
>>335012763
Cheers anon, doesn't really look like what I'm looking for though.
>>335015919
Even Skyrim is better than Obliviion.
>>335015919
Level scaling in oblivion IS retarded though.
And the game is lackluster and mediocre.
>>335015919
Bethesda games are not good in general, they are the definition of all breath no depth
There's loads of places to go and quests to do and absolutely no reason to do any of them
>>335015986
Haha good one.
>>335016031
I seriously dont get why all the fuss is about, is it because you find enemies you can take down, is it the stat distribution? I dont get it guys, in all my many many hours of playing the game i never felt disadvantaged or disappointed with the leveling system.
>>335016043
Lets be honest, by the time Morrowind and Oblivion was out we were just gushing for them in sheer awe, same thing for SkyrimtrailerIts "Neo-Bethesda" that is fucking shit up, Skyrim could have been better, Fallout 4 really wasnt what we've been expecting and god knows how the next TES will be like, for me? Im a second chance kinda guy, i have but a little faith left in them that they will go back and make a good game.
>>335016437
Oblivion and FO3 were 'Neo-Bethesda' too.
>>335008485
How come I've never seen this game mentioned in SRPG threads? Isn't that what it is? It looks interesting at any rate.
>>335016586
Even if thats the case, they're not bad games, at all.
>Muh Morrowind
>Muh NV
i know i know, but doesnt mean that these are bad. There's a fine line between a bad game and a different game.
>>335014997
Psychosis is a pretty fucked up thing.
>>335015271
If you weren't such a normalfag you would have changed that in the options.
>>335016437
You literally meet bandits in full glass equipment if you're high leveled.
>>335017000
Not really what psychosis is anon, he's just ridiculously obsessed with the guy.
>>335017343
He jerked it to one of his posts once
>>335017249
I can imagine that being silly but i can also imagine what would you say if it didnt happen.
>PPFFF, late-game Oblivion is boring, everyone is wearing fur which i can slice through with Umbra on 1 hit. Shit game.
>>335008752
>still not on the yurop store
Fuck you sony or whoever is responsible. Switching accounts on the vita is a fucking pain and I don't want to deal with it.
>>335017398
>everyone
That would depend on the area. Highwaymen should not be equipped like they're legendary heroes.
And your example is retarded.
Anyone here plays Tales of Maj'eyal 4?
dork fortress is gay now
toady is too busy adding in more FPS-killing fluff "features" than fixing the many, many bugs. breaks my heart my fellow faggots
>>335017536
>it's a Vita game
Holy shit, this looks pretty dope. Better not be a disappointment.
>>335003670
>holded
Quality thread OP. Dwarf Fortress is an intelligent use of one's time.
>>335017540
No, my example is spot on, im pretty sure that this is how it would go down. What bothers me though is that when people complain about little things in Morrowind is bad, but when they do it for Oblivion is ok. This has to stop.
>>335017909
Morrowind is a good game with shit combat that becomes mediocre combat with the right stats.
Oblivion is just a bland game with everything enhancing that blandness.
It has nothing going for it except graphics, and that was only back in the day.
>>335010864
in one run I killed 12 or 14 of these because a lava lake room decided to spawn on zot:5.
I still don't see the problem killing those but maybe that's because I only ever go in there with rF+++ and rMut andall my wins are 3 runes so I don't even care if they do manage to mutate me
>not playing games just because there's the occasional sex scene
Fuck normal people
>>335018319
>Sengoku Rance
>"occasional sex scene"
>>335017396
I could jerk it to your post, doesn't make me a schizophrenic.
>>335018110
>bland
Just because it doesnt have balls deep lore and that there's free fast-travel doesnt mean its a bland game. It has decent combat, many good, fun quests, voiced dialog, and an overall fun experience.
>>335018590
The archiver admits he has mental issues though and his doctor said to look at calming imagesguess what he chooses
>>335017398
>>335017909
Your example is terrible because it assumes the only way to have an open world is to have it all easily accessible from the get go. The way to do it properly is to do it like, say, Gothic - areas have different wildlife of varying difficulty. You can visit them anytime, but if you lack the levels, you'll have to do a lot of creative sneaking while shitting your pants whenever you see a snapper. It keeps the game challenging all the time while still giving you the feeling of progression and eliminating "bandits wielding ancient artifacts" idiocy.
>>335014876
That would be a valid point, for a game that has any kind of tutorial.
>>335014358
>taught by an anime waifu
qt
>>335014876
The wiki in DF's case is the manual, not the guide.
>>335003479
whats the point of game if you need to read the wiki everyday to play the game
i hardly get time to play vidya. do u expect me read the wiki im my vidya time
thats fucking pointless if you enjoy df thats good but i dont see any point in you screaming "hey guys i like dwarf fortress that i spent countless hours to learn please notice me i am hardcore" btw dwarf fortress is deep though and its also good at sometimes obsidian pack makes it comfy too
>>335019204
Its something called "Learning"
You should try it sometimes
>>335018962
I see your point, but once again Oblivion was a different game, it tried something different but it wasnt terrible by any chance, it just had a different take, made the world evolve around the player, having impact in your actions.
>>335019315
then whats the point of vidya bro
lets say i get 1 hour to play vidya i spent that time in "learning df" thrn its just waste of time if i spent that time in learning it
btw i do play vidya but i am not as insecure as op so that i need to tell everyone i play df
>>335019402
It's not terrible, it's just mediocre.
But level scaling is still objectively retarded.
>impact in your actions
When and where?
>>335018748
Oh, he was fucking crazy, for sure, I'm just saying he probably wasn't psychotic, he was really organised and calm about it, he doesn't seem confused, just obsessed.
>>335019315
Admittedly, if I'm going to be spending time studying, and it's going to take hours, I should just be studying something useful.
>>335019527
Many things really, off the top of my head i have this example. A friend of mine used to play the game, and started to do a quest, after a certain point he had to find a certain NPC but to our surprise that NPC was dead somehow, hence he could finish the quest. Many little things like that can change things up, nothing stops you.
>>335019402
>it tried something different but it wasnt terrible
No, but it was worse in every way. I enjoyed myself, but it was pretty disappointing.
>>335019484
The title of the thread is "games normies don't understand"
You're moaning about not understanding dorf fort.
You're moaning about having no time for games
You're moaning about wasting time
You're complaining about this shit on a cantonese jpg viewer
You're a normie.
>>335019484
>I had to learn something so it isn't fun
I bet this nigga doesn't even work in the STEM fields
>>335019887
Wow, that's a very detailed and concrete example.
Here's one of mine: becoming the arch-mage, guild master of the fighting guild or any other faction changes LITERALLY nothing in the game.
It has absolutely no impact whatsoever. And if those things don't qualify as major I don't know what else to say.
Nothing you do in the game matters, you meet the same enemies everywhere with the same difficulty and always find items of your "appropriate" level. It's just filler.
>>335018319
I disabled the music years ago and now I can't find how to turn it back on. So I can't play it.
>>335020383
That's pretty awful, the music is amazing.
>>335010490
Japanese normies like shit like fucking Puzzles and Dragons.
>>335013931
Pls leave normie
>>335011291
Doesn't depend on it at all
Minecraft is a game for casuals, not "autists"
>>335003479
I really tried to get into the game but ASCII gives me a massive headache for some reason.
>>335015271
Shit, I actually agree with this post.
You're still a piece of shit though, turn based combat can be good. KOTOR's just isn't.
>>335022220
So use a tileset like everyone else who doesn't want eye cancer.
>Dante Must Die mode
>>335015452
all elder scrolls are slow, and morrowind is slow even for elder scrolls, I usually last until vivec city and then all enjoyment dies
>>335022140
it "autist" as in person who suffers OCD and loves lego.
>>335003559
mega man legends
>>335024205
Who doesn't love lego?
>>335024205
More like "autist" as in someone who ever liked lego more than soccer/basketball.
>>335003479
>Games Normies will never understand
turn-based games
isometric rpgs
any game that requires you to read
any game with no quest/objective compass
any game with multiple stats
any game that intentionally makes the player character weaker
>>335007529
ToME is babby's first roguelike.
>>335018319
What Sengoku Rance should I start with if I want to get into the series? Google fu is giving me no good starting guide.
>>335025142
Sengoku Rance is one specific game in the Rance series. I'd recommend you start with that as it has the most engaging gameplay, and if you end up really liking the setting and characters you can go and play the other ones.
I'm usually pretty purist when it comes to playing things in release order, but the earliest Rance games are honestly pretty shit.
Just check alicesoft general's pastebin.
>>335025142
The first one fag, its translated
>>335025250
Alright, sorry for the mistake!
>>335025263
how can i be a fag when i want to watch rance fug anime grills
>>335025142
Sengoku Rance but as >>335025250
says go ask the Rance general on /vg/
>people itt touting eu4 as a game for autists and not an example of paradox dying out
You're the target audience for hoi iv, thanks for ruining a great niche genre
>>335024951
Recommend some anon
>>335006909
No they didn't and they are thinking to put it in a tech, fuck off sperger
>>335025373
>>335025373
>how can i be a fag when i want to watch rance fug anime grills
How new can you get? (;´Д`)
Reminder that Rance is tsundere for Rick
>>335025250
I played this, but oda is fucking my shit up on his second wave and I gave up.
>>335025949
Just keep going, just survive until he starts running out of troops.
>>335009938
Am I the only person who found this post completely incomprehensible
>>335011713
I feel exactly this way.
Please note that I actually have low-functioning autism. I feel like i'm too autistic to play these complex games.
I can't spend 12 hours on a single game because the "fun" output is not high enough.
I need to find the most efficient minute spend to fun return. I've made some spreadsheets on my laptop for which games give the most fun per minute spend.
The highest ranking games are hentai games. So now I usually just play hentai games.
>>335026003
Losing territory's is fine then?
Because with his new lords they bumrush me and take everything.
>>335026083
dude just play for like 3 hours or less
Binging on games for 12 hours is ridiculous even for a neet like me
Nobody needs to play for 12 hours a day
>>335026083
>I need to find the most efficient minute spend to fun return. I've made some spreadsheets on my laptop for which games give the most fun per minute spend.
This fits my stereotype of what autist would do, so I actually believe you.
>>335026113
Just keep on hanging on.
>>335026083
I know this feeling, but for me the result is mostly just that I only play singleplayer games.
>>335026113
They do that 5 times in a turn attack once.
Remember only the last castle in a territory decides control of the territory
>>335026485
I guess the only thing I really need to know is, Do I let them take the territory's and go on defensive. Save my troops for the next turn?
Cause my super offensive tactic of taking oda's new territory's winds up in him suddenly taking over way more area's.
Im confused.
>>335026756
That's because there are many nations still left on the map.
Don't worry. In the first playthrough if you're struggling too much there will be an event which auto conquers those territories for you.
So just stick with it.
Treat the first playthrough as a learning experience.
And then do the Kenshin/Isoroku/Ran routes
>>335003479
>Normies
I'm what is considered a normie and I can play DF just fine.
>>335026892
stupid question here but, Whats the file called, I seem to have misplaced it and cant find it searching sengoku rance...
>>335026892
Thanks for the info, ill keep pushing then.
>>335026947
System40.exe
I played sengoku rance a couple of times But I always seem to get the bad ending.
I Even use cheats to make sure I lose no battles and still a bad ending.
Do you have to lose certain specific battles to get a good ending or something?
Can someone help me out with this shit?
>>335027023
Just play the game normally and you'll probably end up with a good ending. I have no idea what you're fucking up, but the game makes the next goal in the story pretty clear at all times. What happens in your bad ending? Does the crying old man tip JAPAN over?
>>335003479
I swear to god only a handful of non autists have ever figured out how to play dwarf fortress because when you do it quickly becomes apparent that the majority of the games features are bugged and there really isn't anything to do.
No one talks about this because so few have actually made it that far to figure it out.
