Yo /v/ , I've been reading steam reviews about this game but most positive reviews seem to shit on D3.
My question is , if I like D3 more that PoE will I enjoy this game?
>>335003370
Ancient screenshot you got there, friend.
I also probably going to get shit for this, but apart from both games being ARPG, they have nothing in common.
>>335003370
If you like D3 then you already enjoy bottom barrel garbage so Grim Dawn might not be for you.
This game is a better version of Titan Quest. Made by the same devs
It's totally different from Torchlight, Diablo or PoE in a lot of aspects.
It's worth picking up, I've had a lot of fun with it.
Isn't Path of Exile an MMO? This is more comparable to Diablo 3, in which case I'd say this shits all over that. I enjoyed it. I'll have to reinstall to make sure, but i don't think it has any multiplayer which might be it's biggest flaw.
I fucking hated PoE, had some fun with D3 and I enjoy Grim Dawn.
>>335005281
Oh yeah. That. If OP is looking for some MP experience with no friends for co-op, he is more or less effectively fucked over.
Keep that in mind OP.
>>335005281
PoE is an MMO in the same way any ARPG is an mmo
It's more fun with people, but you can play by yourself jut as easily.
When did MMO come to encompass ANY online game?
>>335003370
>I like D3 more that PoE
D3 >= PoE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grim Dawn
Grim Dawn is fucking garbage.
>>335006093
>OP start Grim Dawn thread
>mention PoE, D3 or both
>some clown start a war
Every. God. Damn. ARPG thread.
Is someone else much more enjoying the game at the beginning than rather at the end ? I prefer the lvl 1 - 50 part because I test different skills for my build. Then after 50, it's pretty much set up and I keep playing for the loot only which is less fun. Didn't reach ultimate yet because of boredom and also because I mainly play hardcore.
>>335005679
IMO, PoE is more of a co-op game. I don't play it any more, but when I did, there was a party limit of what - four people?
>>335006507
Everyone has their own reasons to play.
Everyone has their own idea of fun.
I played it with friends, but now I just feel that I need more content to come back to it. Waiting for that content patch that is coming this month.
>>335003370
>if I like D3 more that PoE will I enjoy this game?
no, that means you are a filthy casual and your taste is shit.
I JUST WANT THE NEW D3 SEASON TO FUCKING START
GRINDING PARAGON POINTS IS BORING
MY SETS NEVER DROP
>>335008032
>>335008032
>>335007193
How many competitive builds does the ranger have?
Can I now play an archer without traps or not?
>>335006093
You literally have shit taste if you think that. Grim Dawn is a great ARPG and you should be ashamed of yourself if you think D3 is at the top of the barrel as it stands.
>>335008032
but D3 is fun amirite anonno matter how much you polish up a turd it'll still be a turd underneath
>>335006507
I had a lot more fun when I played through the later difficulties with friends. Basically you should get to the end of the first difficulty by about 45-50 and then you really need to start gear checking for resistances etc.
You still don't need to grind though, just push through the main quest and double back for the cool side areas you remember and you should be good as the bigger bosses and side areas both have good drops anyway.
>>335003370
It depends on why you like Diablo 3. If it's the multiplayer or streamlined gameplay, I don't recommend Grim Dawn. But if you like trying different builds or ability loadouts, give Grim Dawn a shot. Just know that you're getting into a more hardcore experience.
>>335003636
(You)
>>335008404
Dude, when was the last time you played poe?
Right now pretty much anything can be viable. Also there are sub classes, so you got to ask about Deadeye/Pathfinder/Raider builds.
>Can I now play an archer without traps or not?
Yes you can. A voltaxic rift build is probably the strongest right now
>>335008542
But it's true , D3 is the best action RPG at the moment.
>>335008404
I played when act 4 came out. Did it change that much after 6 months?
>>335008836
not the guy, but you are wrong on so many levels
>>335008935
yes, the ascendancy classes changed a lot.
More like Grim Yawn. It's fucking boring as hell and the pace is slower than a snail.
>>335008723
I like D3 due to the fluid action , the OP character myth and the (now) decent build diversity.
I don't care about multiplayer but I do care about being able to at least play classic ARPG builds (something that I couldn't in PoE).
>>335009013
What's better then , not-the-guy? I need mid-season suggestions
>>335008542
It gets an instant 0/10 for a static world. 0 replayability unless you're a fucking robot or a retard.
>classic ARPG builds
>D3
!??!?
>>335006093
>D3 >= PoE
no anon
no
>>335010251
You know , drain life builds or slow-kitting builds. Classic simple builds that existed in every other ARPG.
>>335009291
Grim fucking Dawn you twat. PoE is even better than D3. The overall system is what makes an ARPG, not the combat which is the only part that D3 got right.
>>335009351
>0 replayability
Do you think there's only 1 class?
Do you think you get the same items from every monster each time you boot the game?
Do you think there's only 1 way to interact with NPCs?
Do you think there is only 1 way to assign stats?
Do you think there is only 1 type of weapon?
Do you think there is only 1 difficulty?
>>335010523
No , if the overall system mattered then I would have played a turn-based dungeon crawler with far more depth instead of casual clickfests with cookie cutter builds that require luck and grinding determination.
Netcode matters (desync "feature" , what a joke). Fluid combat matters.
I made it to level 72 in Ultimate mode on my Shaman/Soldier and just hit a wall of boredom. Dropped it and never could bother going back. The content is sparse and the gear was unsatisfying. Overall if you like ARPGs its worth a buy. I got 177 hours on it. Just can only grind Keys and Rep/Nemesis for so long. Also the multiplayer connections are kinda buggy and it can be hard to find a non-Russian host.
>>335011080
thanks , I guess I'll try to grab it on a steam sale or something.
>>335010791
A turn based RPG isn't an ARPG. An ARPG needs to have deep systems like skill trees that actually matter and good itemisation or it's already lost its way. I can appreciate the combat of D3 but fluid combat is better served in other games as well. An ARPG need only a set of skills that are at least satisfying when they're used and Grim Dawn has a bunch of those and neat little touches like ragdolling enemies when you hit hard enough. It also doesn't have desync.
PoE AND D3 can both suffer from rubber banding if there's something wrong with your connection even temporarily. The PoE team chose poorly when they chose desync instead of lock step netcoding (which they've at least fixed but only raised a different kind of issue.)
I hope you don't think Grim Dawn has cookie cutter builds. I can understand why you'd think PoE does because their team is still working on a good balance point which keeps moving because of the content they keep adding which means that only a few builds get tested enough to see the end game and survive.
>>335011080
I also don't get why people think you need to grind in Grim Dawn. I made it to max level by simply going through the main quests and doing a few of the side quests. I literally hit 85 about 30 minutes before going into the final boss fight for the 3rd difficulty.
>>335008576
actually if you polish a turd, you just end up covered in shit
just saying
>>335012123
>skill trees that actually matter and good itemisation
Turn-based dungeon crawlers in a nutshell.
Dungeon Siege and Sacred were fine without solid itemization or deep skill trees. D2 is not the only ARPG out there.
>>335003648
I'm surprised Torchlight even gets mentioned in these types of threads anymore. It just seems so obsolete now.
>>335012726
That's great but it's also beside the point. We're talking about ARPGs here.
They also didn't have randomised maps. Do they get a 0/10 too?
>>335003370
This game fucking triggers my hoarding.
Shared stash and character stash isn't enough.
Another gripes with this game is not enough skill points.
>>335013396
Wait until the mod tools come out. Infinite stash will be the first mod, guaranteed.
I disagree but only a little. They've geared the skill tree in such a way that you shouldn't spread you points out too much. What they actually need is to maybe lower the number of points you can actually put into skills while changing the way they scale and add more skills which might sound counter intuitive but would really need to do both of those things for me to be happy with the way the skill tree works. What is really important about this game is that you focus on one type of damage. You'll notice that there aren't a lot of skills in each tree that share damage types and basically it's best if you only pick the skills that use the same damage types or 2 damage types at best. That's one way to make better use of how many skill points you currently get.
I always find myself returning to Depths of Peril if I want to a play a more singleplayer mood ARPG. Grim Dawn didn't capture the same feeling for me that Titan Quest before it did. It played fine, but TQ had a charm to it that I really enjoyed.
I recently acquired the trilogy repack of the van helsing arpg games that I've been meaning to look into as well.
>>335013968
Fucking hell. I meant Din's Curse. Same Dev.
>>335013968
The fact that Titan Quest has a new dev team behind it who have started patching it again has piqued my interest.
>>335012985
I didn't give PoE or GD 0/10 , that was another anon. I give PoE a 7/10 (low graphic bottomless tabula rasa kids running around ain't my thing).
>>335014074
Get the fuck out. TQ is getting worked on again?
>>335003636
That makes no sense though, grim dawn is one of the worst arpgs to ever come out.
I would say it's even worse than release D3, and that's quite an accomplishment.
>>335003370
To bad you can't fashion in this game
>>335014174
Google it senpai. The official website has the details. The rights were bought by another team though so it's not the Grim Dawn dude but I don't think that matters too much.
>>335014087
That's fine. (The graphics really do let the game down desu)
>>335014191
It's not eve close to the worst APRGs to ever come out but I'm willing to hear your reasons.
>>335014219
>grim dirty world
>wants fashion
For what purpose?
>>335009063
fuck it , it's just a 1g update. I'll give it a go and see if it manages to pull me in.
So if i liked PoE and TQ and thought D3+Ex were worth a playthrough, would i like GD?
What am i in for if i get it, /v/? I'm trusting you.
>>335014739
TQ is much closer to the gameplay of GD.
It's kinda post apocalyptic ww1/2 setting so guns are a plenty.
>>335014927
That's good, i'll definitely look into getting it when it's on sale then.
Thanks anon.
For real though my only complaint about Grim Dawn is all the "classes" play almost exactly the same, just using a different damage type.
>>335014739
grim dawn is for you then
>>335003370
Well, if you liked D2, you're going to like GD.
>>335014191
Cograts on your shit taste, anon.
Now go back to playing darks souls or whatever elitist tripe fits your hipster agenda.
>>335014927
>post apocalyptic ww1/2 setting
Wat
There are guns, but there's also tons of swords and other melee weapons and GD has absolutely nothing to do with WW1/2.
It's more like a near-medieval fantasy world where the first guns are being made if anything.
