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Not like its a relevant topic anymore but what does /v/ think of Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn?
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FFXIV:ARR's story was absolute horseshit, but they had a decent array of dungeons.

FFXIV: HW's story and characterization is better, but they made all the level 50 content extremely irrelevant.
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>>334997426

It gives me a sudden urge to report to Minfilia at the Waking Sands
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>>334998835

i see what you did thar
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>>334998835
holy shit
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>>334998732

i agree ARR's story was shit. Haven't play Heavensward yet.
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>>334998835
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>>334998996

That is very disturbing.
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>>334998732
There's also the fact that we basically solved all the problems for HW's plot in the base expansion but despite that we're still on this shit

>guys I killed your archbishop he was trying to become a god and shit and also nidhogg is dead and everything you knew is a lie time to suck it up and stop living in the past
>NNNNUUUUH MUH TRADITION MUH FAMILY WHO DIED FOR FUCKING NOTHING

meanwhile the Warrior of Darkness is doing fuckall despite being introduced as important or something
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>>334998996
Wtf?
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>>334999220

My issue is that there are so many open threads of story they just leave unanswered. Like you said the Warrior of Darkness who showed up, attacked you, then he's never talked about again. Freaking Estinien being taken over by Nidhogg at the end of 3.0 HW... and again no one even mentions him until he stabs peaceful dragon-girl in the neck.

Garleans, Ascians, Omega, lost scions, Y'shtola's dying body or whatever. For such a story heavy game with Answers as the main theme they sure aren't giving many.
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>>334997426
Great game, best MMO at the moment.
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>>334999220
At least it's supposedly finally gonna end in 3.3 and we can finally move on to something else.

Also I liked being a Gladiator better than being a Paladin.
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>>334998835
Does anyone else want to nail Minfilia? She's pretty much the only thing that makes going to the waking sands, and later MorDhona. This game has some fine ass ladies.
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>>334999697
It's the best boring MMO at the moment. There's not a lot of endgame content if you've been playing it since the start.
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>>334999683
>Estinien being a double nidhogg
>Oh uh we need to get minfilia I guess
>Yda and Papalymo fucking around with the Ala Mhiggers
>Omega weapon but we kind of dropped the plot point like we dropped the ball
>Regula van Hydrus trying to go full Kefka
>Warrior of Darkness doing fuckall
>Elidibus doing what now
>Diabolos and his waifu
>Shitty lizardslut and her husband and the shitty goblins and the stupid time travel plot
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>>334999817
Instant waifu. god I wish there was so much more porn of her... I really think she deserves at least as much as Midna from LoZ...
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>>334999898
It's not boring to me and I've been playing since 1.0 launched. The only time I ever stopped was actually during 1.0.
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>>334999817

Minfillia looks pretty good, yeah. The arcanist strategy cat is also pretty good.
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>>334999961
I'm most curious about Elidibus. It wouldn't surprise me if he was actually the one that gave Urianger that piece of white auricite because he felt like Lahabrea was getting too much out of hand and needed to be dealt with somehow.
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>less than 300k subs

It's over. Yoship is finished.
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>>335000208

OP here. I started playing about 3 months before HW dropped but I haven't play since. Just re subbed today. Currently re-installing expansion
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I'm just gonna dump some roulette stories.

>Doing totorak
>Tank is running down the wrong tunnels
>Healer literally just spams cure even when the tank is at 98% health
>Arcanist only uses Ruin, and for half the dungeon didn't have their pet out
>Still only took 24 minutes when I've had ones go for 40 minutes

>Doing Cutter's Cry
>People standing in every sand pillar
>Tank standing in every AoE
>Group's dragoon takes hits better because their gear isn't level 25 shit
>Tell tank at the end that violet eyes = run in close, blue eyes = move away
>Not only does he mix the two up, he does it several times. Didn't dodge a single one.
>Would have actually took less damage if he just stood still.

>Doing daily expert roulette
>Notice the healer is just standing around for 80% of the first trash mobs
>Had enough of lazy healers, suggest he DPS
>Healer: ”That's optional. People are getting healed.”
>Me: ”Fine I'll just set myself to autoattack.”
>Healer: ”Fine by me.”
>The other DPS does minimal damage too
>A single boss is taking 7 minutes to kill
>We're all fucking around just standing in AoEs, doing autoattack damage
>We get to the final boss in 26 minutes
>Me: ”Fuck I'm just autoattacking and it actually went faster than some runs I've done.”
>Healer: “I know, right?”
>Me: “Fuck it, ain't even mad anymore. Let's do this shit.”
>Healer does DPS too
>Tank dies
>Fucking shitty healers
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>>335000208
What do you do? I assume you have all jobs at level 60 by now aswell.
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>>335000453
Just about everything. I like trying to complete everything.

I don't have every job at 60 but I have almost every zodiac weapon as well as the hyperconductive DRK relic.

All crafts and gatherers as are 50, FSH is 51 though, and the only battle classes I don't have at 50 are MNK which is 55, BRD and NIN which are 50, and MCH which is still only 32.
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>>334999817
Minfilia is cute (particularly in her winter getup) but no woman can hold a candle to the seedseer qts.
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>>335000390
It would make sense. Elidibus may be an ascian but he's not exactly working in tandem with Organization XIII

He's an "emissary", and while the Ascians in the group are named after the Scions of Light from Ivalician lore (opposite to the Espers, the scions of darkness, so Lahabrea = Mateus), there's nothing matching Zodiark. instead, Elidibus is the name of the man who was the Serpentarius Lucavi in Final Fantasy Tactics, and casted Zodiark.

If i recall he had civil conversations in all of his appearances.
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>>335000568
I also have most of the mounts and minions.
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>>335000568
>>335000648
And I'm going to bed now so any other questions you might want to ask will not be able to be answered because it's sleepy time now.
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>>335000579
I guess they call her the seedseer because of all that semen she takes in her body
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Its a pretty shitty game. Endgame is like the most annoying mechanics from WoW condensed. Every boss fight is a set of shitty gimmicks and there is nothing else to the game but that once you memorize it. The community is absolute shit and that means you're not going to have a lot of cool people distracting you from how boring the game is. The world is uninteresting and too small to feel like there's anywhere left to explore by the time you hit the cap, and there's not even any cool loot to want to aim for once you do since everything of the same item level is only marginally different.
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>>334997426
That global cooldown scared away the casuals since its far too boring. It might be easy enough for casuals to get on board but its boring. For others who have played MMO's before the global cooldown makes you want to throw up immediately and run. I think if it went F2P i'd play it for the story and look around the world at all the neato scenery it probably has but thats it.

What turned the game into a fad on /v/ for so long was its ability to bring people together but that slowly faded and the endgame dried up from what i've read.

That global cooldown is disgusting though, even if it isn't that bad at high level i just can't stomach paying money for the game when i have so many games on my list i haven't even played yet.
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>>335000579

Raya-O-Senna is the truest seedmendemon.
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>>335000568
I guess I'm further in. All jobs 60, 2 relics completed. I'm pretty much playing a lot less now because there's nothing much to do for me anymore besides getting the weekly amount of lore tomes and bird farming (I have 1).

There's also Midas Savage but that's the one thing I skip on.
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>>335000774
>>335000831
please do not slander the seedseer
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>>335000848
Stop complaining anon
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>>335000568
I meant the only battle classes I don't have at 60*

Going to bed for real this time
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>>335000848

I cannot understand the hardcore raiding scene, I swear. I know 2 people who are into it, and after running that shit again and again they're -miserable-. They're not even happy about their accomplishment by the end of it.
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>>335000329
Isn't that Y'shtola? I've never been partial to catgirls in any media, but she just feels right.
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>>335000939
They aren't wrong. Just because people don't like to do all of those things doesn't mean there isn't a lot of shit to do.
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>>335000582
My crackpot theory is that the world itself has actually been split in two by Hydaelyn's fuckery and there's a "Dark Eorzea" on a shifted plane from us across the Lifestream or some shit and that the "truth" Elidibus is talking about is that we need to rejoin them somehow or else both will be fucked by THE VOID.
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>>335000939
I did most of those things. I can complain whenever the fuck I want.
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>>335000990

No there's another pink-haired catgirl with glasses who is a master tactician who is part of the arcanist quest chain.
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>>335000579
>particularly in her winter getup
I just got to that part. Lordy she looks good. She looks like the only responsible one there with her big coat in the raging blizzard. Fuckin' Alphinaud, the strategy dude, is standing there in his regular clothes. How is he not cold?
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>>335000990
Naw, the autistic one in the Arcanist story that got raped by big roe pirate dick. K'lyhia.
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>>335000939
>official forums
>still shit

same as it ever was
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>>335001054

Sure there's a lot of shit to do, but when a lot of people don't want to do those things and you're relying on that as other bits of content to do, it's not a good sign.
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>>335000939
Technically they're right, there's a shit ton to do in this game. Granted a lot of it is a grind that requires severe autism to be able to actually enjoy.
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>cape westwind runs
>the encounter doesn't even last 2 minutes

You end up waiting longer for your queue to pop. I can only imagine how dps feel on something like this.
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>>335000985
That's one of the reasons I quit raiding.

The reward is not really worth it for the time you put in. By now we all know the gear is going to be obsolete pretty fast. Forming a static of 8 fixed people is tough too. Weekly lockouts make it even harder.

Also don't get me wrong, I love the game. Otherwise I wouldn't have all jobs 60. But it just feels done by now.
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Why the fuck does the new relic take so goddamn long to farm.
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>>335000779

I disagree that the community is shit. When I played a while ago I joined a FC and met tons of awesome people.
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>>335001443
Is there anyone else in the story that just gets completely BTFO more than that guy? He's supposed to be a big enough boss that they made him an instances trial and he just absolutely melts.
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>>335001492
cos ur a scrub.
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>if FFXV sucks I'm gonna have to come back to XIV for my FF fix
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>>335000939

>Just because you personally don't want to do something doesn't mean there isn't lots to do

Well, personally, if I don't want to do something I'm not going to do it, so it may as well not exist.

I understand the sentiment. Just because I don't think there's anything to do doesn't mean other people don't have plenty of stuff they enjoy.
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>>335000830
The 2.5 gcd was meant to accomodate for console players and also the new to mmo players, which console players also tend do be. Basically accommodating for casual play. But the decision for 2.5 gcd and the combat design is massive failure in that regard.

Most casual players like mashing buttons...the same buttons. That means low gcd, low total buttons, which is what wow did. A couple mashable gcds, and lots of glowy procs. FFXIV however went the low gcd route (you mash but nothing happens in 2 seconds plus) and having to constantly jump to the other buttons before coming back to your first button 10-20 buttons later.
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>>334997426
It is an awful game with no soul. Literally just a copy of another successful game in the genre but with chocobos.
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>>335001550
Alphinaud becomes the butt of some jokes, to some that is considered being btfo. Rihtahtyn is fuckin' hilarious. He starts saying some stuff near death about shooting missiles. However, that time usually never comes because he dies while shooting them.
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>>335001867

explain?
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>>335001805
the douchebag's justification was also ridiculous like "having every achievement"

When some are literally impossible to get, like the ones for Leves, when not even enough time has passed to have enough leves to do it since launch.
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>>335001643
You know what you need more of in your life?

Besides Lalafell, anyways.

http://www.finalfantasyrecordkeeper.com/
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>>335001850
This is what I don't understand at all. Why did they make a console MMO have more fucking buttons than can feasibly be mapped to controller hotkeys? I don't even know how the fuck you're supposed to play classes after the expansion now on a controller. Macros?
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>>335001931

Or a 'max level chocobo'

What am I supposed to go around killing monsters for endless hours?
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>>334997426
no garrison and actual crafting mechanics, so better than wow
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>>335002052

>What am I supposed to go around killing monsters for endless hours?

playing an mmo and not expecting to grind. you should probably play a different type of game m8
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>>335001931
>achievement for earning 1,000,000 Gil from leves
>burned through enough leves to have 6 out of 8 crafting classes leveled
>still don't even have 400k earned from it
>there's an achievement for earning 20 tucking million
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>>335000985
>>335001472

Raiding in XIV got castrated. People who didn't raid whined for everything to be taken away from raiding and given to them instead. Story? Taken. Strongest gears? neutralized with welfare gear. Achievements? downvalued once nerfs and echos are introduced.

You literally cannot be baffled by how worthless raiding is when your non raiding brethrens literally encouraged yoship to rape the fuck out of it.
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>>335002139
more like there's no alternate way to level them. I wish there was chocobo leves that just gave chocobo exp or something.
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>>335002290

fair enough ill accept that answer
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>>335002139

Context my man. Endless hours to level up your character is one thing. Endless hours to level up your chocobo is something I have never heard of any people caring about.
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>>335001918
Yoshi has gone on record and said that his idea of a good MMO is one that copies WoW. What is there to explain?
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>>335002052

Only for the challenge log. Otherwise just put it in a stable and feed it krakka roots.
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>>335002052
It isn't actually that time consuming to level the chocobo if you form parties to do it. Maybe like a dozen hours. But it is still a total waste of time, so I don't know why you would.
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>>335002020
It's simply just design failure. Yoship has no good major titled game under his belt before he took leadership of xiv. He literally got selected because wada asks who plays mmos and only yoship rose his hand.
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>winterhold
>lala tank

The music is so god damn chill in that dungeon, I almost forgot about lala tank. I also didn't believe that lala tanks existed before today. I was very disgusted.
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>>335001996
I heard about that branch shit or whatever. That's a trap.
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>>335002362

fair enough but what mmo doesn't rip off from the success of wow
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>>335002475

Lala tanks are fairly common. It's the most ironic race in the most ironic role.

If he glamoured himself to be naked then the irony would be off the fucking charts, brother.
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Will mindless FSH grinding make me stinking rich like 1-50 MIN grinding did? Leves are for squares.

I expect the answer to be no, frankly, but if there are some profitable fish to grind on the way up I'm all ears. This is laughably AFKable - it makes Runescape fishing look hard - so I can do it while I'm studying for a huge exam this summer. Literally gotta press 2 buttons on my controller every 15 seconds or so. Feels good man.
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>>335002548
Ultima Online? Everquest? FFXI? EVE?
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>>335002609

The only profitable ones are leve fishes.
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>>335002662

never played ultima or eve
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>>335002609
you can desynth fishes for money
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>>335002715
Oh, actually, that makes perfect sense. Well, I could fish those anyway. The thing about leves is, that requires input. All I have to do besides pressing buttons is check gear every time I level up and go buy some more bait

>>335002770
I'm a level 13 CUL m8.
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>>335002662
Two of those are dead and one of those is essentially a second job for anyone who plays it.
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>>335002795
time to level CUL you CUK
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>>335002548
>>335002662
FFXI best mmorpg ever btw. Never forget.
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>>335002847
That was funny! Also, it's funny, I had planned on holding on to huge stacks of certain fish to make leveling CUL less obnoxious.


What kind of shit can I desynth a Lominsan Anchovy for that's REALLY worth the effort?
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>>335002795
>not having. CUL leveled for it's god tier cross class skills
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>>335002795

Fishing leves are different. They're just turn-ins. You find a spot and pick the bait that will give you the leve fish, then either use them/turn them in or sell them to other slobs who can't bother.
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>>335002882

it was pretty fantastic wasn't it?
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>>335002826
Actually FFXI had to be your only job, which is why it was so good.
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>>335002918
I don't craft, that should be obvious to you. The only things I give a shit about are mining and raiding

>>335002961
Yeah, that's what I meant. If people are buying them to turn-in and level their own FSH, I could fish those and sell them.
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i like catgirls
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>Been playing since 12PM today doing quest grind to HW almost 13 hours
>Started halfway through 2.2
>Did 2.3,2.4 and 2.5 today in this marathon
>10 quests left
>Nobody queueing for steps of Faith in the past 20 minutes
>Maintenance in Nine minutes
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>>335002826
Everquest is still getting expansions. FFXI is still getting content updates, just not expansions anymore and also just got a new director.
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>>335002989
The feels.
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>>335002554
Thankfully this guy didn't glam to be naked. Something tells me I can expect more lala tanks at higher level content. I barely ever saw them during my dungeon content. I consider that extreme luck though.
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>>335002995

I'd like catgirls more if they had proportions like that but they're all skinny assless Jap teens.
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>>335003034
Take a break you spaz; it isn't going anywhere.
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>>335003034
>not asking your FC to do content with you
c'mon son
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>>335003034

>past 20 minutes
>9 minutes till maintenance
> expecting people to queue for dung when maintenance is half an hour away
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>>335003107
>assless Japs
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>>335003107
There's a certain type of body well-suited to cowtits, and that c@ is lacking seriously in that department. You want to talk shit proportions, that image you've linked to is a pretty good example.
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>>335003147
Got kicked out of my FC two days ago for making fun of the leader's roommate for being a waitress
All on my own
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>>335003228
>not just joining a new one
step the fuck up faggot
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>>335003228

get a new FC fag
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>>335003182
>assless
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>>335002995
miqote a shit
mithra a best
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>>335003182

All I'm asking for is a little variety, friend.
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>>335003257
>>335003290
>Being in a FC
>Responding to self-absorbed tripfags who post their pointless conversations in these threads

come on now are you fellas even trying
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should I resub to this game?
I got to level 40 then my free month went away
I just want to be in a comfy roleplaying FC
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>>335002554
Lalafells make the best tanks.

After all they're great at generating hate
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>>335003257
>>335003290
It's hard. I'm on Ultros, I'm convinced everyone is a retard. I tried joining an FC today but the leader said him and his wife were running it and I knew instantly that was trouble
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>>335003327
bedtime grandpa
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>>335003359
then resub
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>>335003328
You want variety? FUCK YOU. MORE BEAST TRIBE QUESTS
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>>335003359

OP here. I just resubbed today. I would if I were you but it depends on your preferences.
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>>335003372

Why would that be trouble? Normies tend to be pretty decent leaders.
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>>335003372
join the /vg/ FC you'd fit right in
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>>335003449
>Moogle Beast Tribe in 3.3
>it's gathering

actually that'd give me a leveling incentive I guess
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>>335003327
Just what is it about mithras that are superior to miqote in just about everyway? Even in fan art, when the 2d art isn't even trying too hard to emulate the in game 3d models. Even that is superior to miqote, in game model or 2d fanart. I think I can easily tell if a fan art is a mithra or a miqote even when they're naked.
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>>335003343

> pointless conversations
> implying this entire board is more than pointless conversation

/v/ is serus bidness fool
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>>335003531
They couldn't possibly introduce another "Find the 3 moogles" quest, could they? There's already about 50 of those in Churning MIsts


>>335003556
Rose-tinted glasses, my guess
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>>335003556
I believe they had ass.
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i just want a big world and adventures :(
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>>335003591
would you rather another crafting beast tribe with the goblins
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>>335003531
>gathering beast tribe

I would be all over this if it actually happened
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>>335003620
I recommend classic runescape
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There were two things in FFXIV that caused me to stop playing after a month:

The combat is slow and boring. That's just too big of an issue to ignore. I can't try to push myself through a game or enjoy it if one of the main elements is dull. Everything is locked into long cast animations and it isn't very engaging.

I absolutely hate the idea of one character being able to main every class. Why do they do this? It strips away any identity your character has. I would rather roll alts and play a variety of characters to experience multiple classes. The fact you can be a mage, warrior and a healer all in one breaks my immersion.

These two reasons kill the game for me. It's unfortunate because I did enjoy the atmosphere, graphics, music, exploring, questing and all that jazz.
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>>335003620
too bad. instanced hallways for you.

and square arenas

or circle arenas
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So what's with the whole timer suspending for the housing removal? Is it the earthquake? I guess it might be a bit harsh to lose not only your real home but your virtual one too due to an earthquake.
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>>335003556
Mithra actually looked lithe and muscular, miqote just look like generic anime catgirls

cat nose also makes them a little more unique

the perma-tan/thin fur thing they have going on helps too, most people make miqote look pale as shit
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>>334999817
Yda is a better
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>>335003723

I don't think it strips away your chars identity. Why does your character have to be identified by its class
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>>335003723

>I absolutely hate the idea of one character being able to main every class. Why do they do this?

Because it has the job system, an FF staple. There's nothing stopping you from leveling a bunch of different alts either if you're that autistic.
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>>335003724
>audience want variety
>triangle arena

yoshi p is master hack
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>>334999220

Who knew that killing the big boss wouldn't just instantly end a 1000 year war that a lot of people are personally invested in and built an entire religion around?
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>>335003874
How the hell do Yda's little short things even work anyway? That garment she wears doesn't even look like something that could physically exist.
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It ruined our friend group. I hate this game.
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>>335003818
>most people make miqote look pale as shit
This bothers me a lot.
We need more milk chocolate and brown miqo'te.
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>>335003968
>t1 and t2 will never be beaten in terms of quality and atmoshphere
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>Tfw FC on Ultros I joined 1-2 years ago is completely dead now
House is a large plot next to the market board too.
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>>335004054

not the games fault. how about you take your shitshow elsewhere
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>>335004073
kek... no one want to play as some nigger or mexican scum
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>>335003723
>I absolutely hate the idea of one character being able to main every class.
It really does not matter that you can level every class when you are completely wasting your time by doing it; in the time it takes to actually gear two classes up to whatever the current equipment level cap is, it will already be obsolete. Two characters is objectively better if you actually want to play two classes, but you have to do twice as much tedious bullshit to unlock dungeons.
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>>335003967

>Working on getting my 7th character to level 50
>So I can make a 7th room in my FC house
>My FC which is supposed to be an RP FC
>Grown so bitter about past RP experiences I don't even RP anymore

At least I have some nice rooms, senpai.
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>>335004132
It's the only thing i can blame it on. Why would I be realistic and blame my friends lack of self control? What am I, reasonable?
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>less active characters than the past census, more than 100k to be precise
>less characters at endgame than the past census
>B-B-B-BUT THE LOW NUMBER OF PLAYERS AT ENDGAME IS BECAUSE 3.1 DOESN'T UNLOCK ANYTHING, I'M DOING SAVAGE AND HAVEN'T BOTHERED WITH 3.1! 3.2 WILL HAVE MORE PLAYERS BECAUSE IT UNLOCKS CONTENT!
>ALL MMOs HAVE A SLUMP IN PLAYERS, EVERYONE IS JUST WAITING FOR THE NEXT RAID TIER
>BULLSHIT THE GAME ISN'T DYING, IT'S GOING STRONG AND GAINING MORE PLAYERS EVERY DAY
>5-5-5-5-5 M-M-M-M-MILLION ADVENTURERS

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>>335004245

kek
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>>335004018
Can you not imagine 3d? Take 2 rectangular cloth. Overlay them together. Pin the top 2 edged with a safety pin each. Pin the bottom middle of the rectangle with a safety pin. That's what you basically get.
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>>334998732
>Skipped most of the ARR story because it was dogshit
>Trying to pay attention to the HW story since people say it's good
>Have to sit through 6 gorillion cutscenes and dialogues just to unlock shit
>Start skipping it because I lost patience after sitting through 3 cutscenes in a row every time I do anything
>Just killed Bismark and have no idea what's going on anymore because the story skips around constantly even when you're paying attention more often than not

They shouldn't make this so difficult to follow if you just want to play the game.
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>>335003958

Nice try you cheeky cunt.
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>>335000410
is really that low?
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>>335004018
Do you even fashion
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>>335003874
And there isn't a problem with that. Most of the females in this game are a miracle of the universe. Jesus Christ, if there wasn't a series more deserving of porn, it's this one. Some may argue with me on this but god damn do I want to see Minfilia bent over that desk and showed all scions of the seventh dawn.
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>>335004362
>I shouldn't have to read to know what's going on
>>
>main SMN
>get BLM to the same ilvl
>SMN's piano rotation that uses shitloads of buttons and depends on strict timing and planning ahead results in 1680 DPS
>BLUH BLUH FIRE IV BLUH with no knowledge of the finer points of BLM gets me 1720

At least our healers still rely on my crutch raises...
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>>335004442
No, I don't. I haven't bought new clothes in like two years.
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>>335004412

not trolling. My characters identity is based on whatever i think of my character. not its fucking class.
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>Mod API: postponed
>DPS meters are scary
>B-but PS3
Why do people still play these hacks
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>>335004073
Loonh Gah did have a sexy bod.
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>>335004263
game is dead... our only hope is a wow legacy server!!!

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17611011067
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>>335004416
see
>>335004263

For comparison this was the last census done in January, bottom left number are active characters then players who've cleared up to a certain patch, plenty of people have alts so the number of actual subs is even lower.
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>>335004495
SMNs are always going to do less single target DPS no matter what.

BLMs are much better for single target but get beaten out by SMNs by far in AoE. BLMs AoE isn't what it used it to be.
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>>335000579
I don't understand why this wasn't the new playable race instead of Au Ra, which has the worst design possible.
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>>335003723
>complains that a jack of all trades has no identity
>would rather play as a small army of different characters with himself completely removed from the game world only acting as a commander over his "toons"
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>>335004362
Hi DSP.
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>>334997426
It's WoW with nice graphics and a Final Fantasy story. Alright if you like that kind of thing.
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>>335004676
Because it would make zero sense from a lore perspective.
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>>335004676

Because they can't leave the shroud for very long or be anything but white mages.
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>>335004416
Financial report on the 3.0 to 3.1 release indicates that the maximum sub XIV can have is 500k. That's MAXIMUM, more likely around 300k. Then you have >>335004263 saying only 400k-360k players completed the msq during that time. The numbers just get lower each time.
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>>335004676
Because there are like 5-10 Padjal total in the world according to the lore.
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>>335002052
Feeding it a krakka root every hour gives it I think .5% of it's level
Weekly challenges combined give it 15% to its level for 100 mobs total
Making Curiel roots it's favored food will increase its exp rate when you summon it with them

I never grinded more than the 100 mobs per week to get my choco to 20. Hardest part was just having someone grow thav onions for me, but that's what FCs are for.
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>>335004654
>the flare nerf
>the fuckin' flare nerf
That spell is a staple of the series for it being a massive damage area spell. It's situational, but god damn if it wasn't useful.
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>>335004789

I don't think they're actually white mages.
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>>335000410
>LE 300K SUBS MEME

The current amount of active subscribers is around 650k, as pointed out in an earlier posts. 3.1 hurt the game's reputation hard and lost it about 100k subs or so.

I have no idea where people pull this
>below 300k active players
shit from.
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>>335004801
I'm guessing most of the subs are Japanese?
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>>335004629
>>335004263
The first image is not subscriber counter overtime.

The first column is Active players total. Subsequent columns show overall progression for the total number of players, in order:

Active (Total)

Brand New

Progressing through 2.0 (Literally: Continuation)

Cleared End of 2.0 Content

Cleared 2.55

Started 3.0

Cleared 3.0

Cleared 3.1

Cleared 3.2

In other words, there are 639,585 active characters. Of these, 263,604 have cleared Patch 3.2's MSQ.

Reddit eating my formatting again, I give up

Edit: The second image has to do with A4S and A8S clear rates.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/4fnvnr/unofficial_census_time/
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>>335004606
How exactly is it postponed when the last time they mentioned it near 3.2 release was that they're gonna release the addons at 4.0? Are they basically saying postponed to never?
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>watch 1.0 cutscenes
>they're so much more well animated

the only problem is the voices damn

Papalymo sounds like some annoying british nanny
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>>335004471
Being inundated with 5000000000000 cutscenes just to unlock a new dungeon is full retard game design.

You need to make most of it relatively concise and save the actual cutscenes for when something relevant or awesome is happening.

They've made MMOs before and did it exactly that way, but with XIV they just throw as much shit at the wall until people stop trying to peel it off.
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>>335004906
There are 650k subs. Most are NA and JP with some EU.
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>>335004518

I figured you were transmemeing or some shit. If serious, then for me it's hard to break archetypes in fantasy lore. I could accept something like a Mage Warrior tank who possess elemental abilities along with brute strength, or a Holy Archer who strikes enemies from afar while healing allies, or coming up with other hybrid types, but it removes me from my character and the world when everyone can just do and be everything.
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>>335004906
XIV has a higher number of non JP subs, DQX has the higher number of JP subs, it's also JP only and all anyway.
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How do I convince my WoW fag friends to play ARR instead?
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>>335004820
So what, just make them discover more or something, who cares

>>335004778
You can write yourself out of anything when the world you're dealing with is made out of magic.
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>>335004676
Because Padjal are even less diversive, being, literally, Hyurs with horns.

Because they're literally born from hyurs, with horns, and are taken away as children to be trained as White Mages. There will never be a Padjal who isn't one.

Au Ra as a concept are fine, it's the execution (re: whatever was easiest for them) that was the problem
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>>335004926
Oh lord. I was thinking of how much fire II is used since it's an aoe in this game. I'm goin' to bed, I don't know how I could fuck up something like that.
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>>335004954

I might actually enjoy the cutscenes if this is how they were.

And if they didn't use them for every God damn quest. I do NOT need a cutscene of people talking to each other right in front of me. The fuck, Yoshi?
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>>335005023

well if you look at it realistically, anyone can learn different "jobs" IRL anyways.
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>>335004876
>650k pointed out in earlier posts
>ctrl f 650k
>first result is your post

I have no idea where 650k is being pulled from either? Your ass?
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>>335004876
639,585k active characters, enough people have alts to bring that number down to below 500k subs. Yes, people actively use alts all the time and some even use more than 1 alt, just because you don't doesn't mean others don't.
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>>335004801
>Release indicates that maximum sub XIV can have is 500k.

You are fucking autistic and have no source to prove this right. There are several pictures in this thread that point the opposite.

This is some shitty bait.
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>They need 4 hours of downtime to disable auto-demolish for housing
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>>335005078
We don't want them here. Go play WoW with them.
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600k subscribers is really good. I doubt FFXI ever reached sub numbers that high. I don't know how well SE will maintain those amount of subscribers though. WoW is already dying and FFXIV seems to doing the same things WoW does but in FF's clothing.
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>>335005128
>>335004926

Yeah. Flare is basically single target ultima.
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>>335004801
MMOs don't need millions of subs to be active. Everquest only had 500k subs at its peak.
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>>335005230
600k characters... not subs
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>>335005196
>>335005191

why does it fucking matter?
If the game is doing so awful then why do you care? Wait for it to die if you care this much holy shit.

You people have too much goddamn free time on your hands.
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>>335005191
>around 650k
>around
>What is the English language

see
>>335005196

Are you literally autistic
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>>335005230
>>335005283

more subs is not always better, from a community quality standpoint anyways
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>>335004963

>Take a break from FFXIV to play some Blade and Soul
>Story is okay, but throughout the game the cutscenes are actually filled with funny scenes and action/excitement

It's, like, I forgot cutscenes could be interesting because they never were in ffxiv.
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>>335005156
1.0 cutscenes were mocapped if I remember

However most of the budget went into this shit and they forgot they needed to make a game.

They also had actual 2 handed stances for staff users.
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>>335005230
>correct races on each job

Someone explain why Yoshi-P doesn't do this outside of job quests?
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>>335005091
That's not how it works faggot, the Padjal are born when the Elementals fuck a Hyurian whore, and the Elementals only exist in one place.
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>>335004686

But the whole world is made up of characters who are a jack of all trades. It isn't just you. That's boring to me. And playing multiple characters doesn't remove me from the game world. I do some light RP, a lot of it for my own personal enjoyment, where I like to come up with back stories to my characters in my head. When I played WoW and mained a Warlock I had my own story of who he was, where he came from, and what his purpose was. When I played my Warrior it didn't change any of that, I had my own made up fantasy about him too. If my Warlock was also trained to be a Priest and a Hunter and a Paladin it would completely collapse my identity of him.

I probably just make it a bigger issue than it needs to be, I can understand fine why people enjoy it. I could probably overlook it too, but I still think the combat in this game is absolute shit and I can't play a game where one of the main gameplay elements is boring to me.
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>>335005196
>>335005328

>640k active characters
>is equal to 640k subs
>when every sperg in balmung squeezes in all their character slots into that server taking up all 8 for their shitty purposes
>why does it matter

Are gonna play a game of goalpost moving now?
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>>335004854

Flare is traditionally single target you nerd.
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>tfw I unsubbed for the first time since re-launch because no content if i didnt raid

Getting a real job sucks.
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>>335005343
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>>335005402
There is no 'correct race', though there are baises I guess.

Black Mages and Scholars are suited for Lalafells since they were the original scholars and run the Thaumaturge guild.

Dragoons are sutied for Elezen because ishgard.

However Paladins (at least, Gladiators) and Monks are Highlanders because muh proud ala mhigo
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>losing 100k subs is good

XI also definitely hit 600k subs in its lifetime, though all the official reports you'll find will say it peaked at 500k, though surely it hovered above that and got 100k more before they bothered to update their numbers and before going downhill.
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>>335004954
PS3 LIMITATIONS PLEASE UNDERSTAND


Seriously though, the ARR and HW cutscenes are dogshit. They don't even try.

>>335005364
I honestly can't think of a single good cutscene I've seen since I got HW a few weeks ago.

Even the Shiva va Ravana scene was crappy. How the fuck do you manage to make 2 god things fighting each other look boring?
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>>335005503
>active

Are you implying more than one character can be active at a time?
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>>335005382

Shit titan is fucking swole.
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>>335005604
meant for
>>335005230
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>>335005503
>640k active characters inherently implies less than 500k subs
>Source: my ass

Do you have any actual proof to back this up? Burden of proof lies upon you and so far all you're giving is a whole lot of nothing caked in shit. Oh, and just because a few people have some alts doesn't mean everyone has "8 alts."
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>>335001246
Wish her and the Conjurer would show up again in a fun quest.
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>>335005598
They are best suited for lalafells because lalafells are like tarus, ergo the most scholarly/intelligent race.
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>>335005634
The way the census works, yes it can easily account for alts active around the period the census took place.
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>>335005604
Judging by the numbers, they're losing numbers at the pre-2.55 area. Servers are also getting new blood quite regularly.

So most of the character losses are bots getting banned, since they never go past Wanderer's palace for their farming, and end game raiders unsubbing.
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>>335005416
>We discovered a method that allows us to travel around [VIDEO GAME WORLD] thanks to these magic crystals containing the essence of an elemental!
>Let's go adventure!

Wow I'm a fucking genius, pay me YoshiP
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>>335005634
Are you seriously this dumb?
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>>335005710
>inb4 NOT A VALID OFFICIAL SOURCE
>inb4 I CAN'T READ MOONRUNES
>in during shill BTFO

http://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/47379481.html
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>>335005023
Then just don't level the other jobs, you little faggot.
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>>335005713
>oh hey Silphy it turns out you're highly attuned to the elements and can hear their voices
>that's it
>never see Silphy again

I'd like for the next WHM story to introduce her again, as a WHM in training.

SCH and SMN's stories having nothing to do with the ACN guild is okay I guess because they're entirely diffferent branches. Alka Zolka is a cool dude anyways.
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>>335003967
The problem is that you're gated hugely gearing up your other jobs and if you're doing endgame content then that means you're already in a static and going as your main job. Making gearing up other jobs moot.
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>>335005102
>SE will never stop stealing money from XIV so we can have well designed content

Imagine how good the game could be if the money you spent on it actually went into it's development
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>>335005735
Lalas in this game's lore are more merchantile than scholarly tho. Two out of the three gathering guilds being headed by Lalas is fitting.

Also the sub number autists are at it again? Why is every MMO thread ever plagued by this bullshit who gives even a single fuck
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>>335005078
tell them you'll be their cumdump for them on xiv
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>>335005821
Padjal are still an incredibly rare minority, like literally a dozen at most.

In fact there's only 6 seen ever and one of them is dead.

Besides that people would complain that they're even less original as they're just kids with horns, whereas Au ra are humans with skin cancer.
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>>335005923
>Yoshida, the corporate executive in charge of SE's entire MMO division can't get enough funding and staff

He has the funds, he has the staff, he's just a hack.
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>>335005851
>I CAN'T READ MOONRUNES
Yeah, apparently you fucking can't, that says nothing about "active subscribers." This was posted about who has cleared what content. It says nothing about active subscribers.

You are fucking autistic. This picture says nothing to back up your claim. So again, I'll ask, where is your proof?
>inb4blatantmisinterpretation
>inb4 your game is still shit
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>>335005923
XIV will be getting even less content once XV fails to reach the 10 trillion sales it needs to make back the money they've spent on it.
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>>335005923
>SE stealing money from XIV
>When XIV is the game responsible for FFXV taking a decade to release
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>>335006062

At least people would have actual children to ERP with now, instead of pedos having to make lalafell and twist them into 'I'm actually a hyur child/voidsent orphan, tehee'.
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>>335005851
>people keep waving around the 640k active characters as if it means sub
>okay let's look at this page then
>heavensward legible characters is listed as 410k
>410k
>subs is somehow 650k they said

lol...
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>>335006167
Except Padjals are several hundred years old
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>>335005382
>Never released because earthquake in japan happened and it would be bad taste
>Now another earthquake has caused this stupid maintenance

Why wont those nips leave that doomed island?
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>>335006209

Well alright, visually they'd have a much better fit for an underaged hyur girl than a lalafell.
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>>335006092
>alts don't exist

You're right, there's no way to tell how many of those characters are alts, but no one can deny people do use alts and that it has a substantial enough impact on the amount of real subs.

The game also lost 100k subs, if you were an intelligent shill you could spin it around and say 100k people just stopped using their alts, but you can't even do that.
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>>335005283
how many people are actually going to complete 50 hours of story content on multiple characters in an mmo where you can do all jobs at once?
>>
What is it like to fuck a blind girl?
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>>335006347
People who run the market boards.
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>>335006347
Almost all raiders, Youtubers and streamers do, all 1% of them. Balmung does, 99% of them.
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>>335006362
She sees in aether, meaning she can probably see through your clothes and your dick.
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>>335006362
grab your gf/fiancee/wife and try it out
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>>335006340
As someone who loves the game they deserved to bleed subs for the shitshow that was 3.1. Fuck that was awful.
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>>335006143
>Put the successful XI team to work on Dragon Quest Online
>Put a bunch of BRs and Chinks in charge of XIV
>Dragon Quest launches
>It's great
>XIV launches
>It's shit
>Everyone goes back to XI a month later and the game drops dead

Wow was a surprising turn of events here lads.
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>>335006340
>Y-YOU'RE RIGHT BUT BAWWW YOU AREN'T INTELLIGENT
>I HAVE NO WAY TO BACK UP MY CLAIM

So as I suspected, you are, very clearly, pulling shit out of your ass with no clear way to prove it. That's all I needed to hear.
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>>335006347
You don't know how autistic balmung/gilga scums can get. There are people who collect all the ARR zodiacs pre nerf just so can they post it on the OF and reddit for thumbs ups and karma. It's disgusting.
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>>335006347

Well just to fuck up your numbers I personally have 8 alts.
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