SFZ is shit.
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>It's literally Star Fox 64 with gimmicky horseshit no one asked for
Is it finally time to put Miyamoto to sleep? He had a good life, but clearly his final days are upon us. We wouldn't want him to suffer.
>>334996208
helIo reddit
>>334996293
No need to be upset. Nintendo's age is ending, nothing lasts forever.
>tfw Miyamoto thinks people that main Fox give a shit about his game series
>tfw hiding every StarFox thread on /v/ for the rest of time
>>334996378
ok reddit haha have you played some DARK SOULS recently i must say that DARK SOULS is a great experience for all to enjoy. pick up your copy of DARK SOULS today!! (:
>>334996434
All Nintendo had to do was make a decent Star Fox game.
Instead they copy and pasted SF64 with worse graphics.
>>334996208
>>334996208
>it's literally star fox 64
fuck yeah, exactly what i wanted. no more dinosaurs, no more shooting shield generators on foot, just the good stuff. motion controls dont bother me.
>>334996532
Read the entire post. The game is plagued with gimmicky bullshit like the stupid fucking chicken walker.
Do you like slow segments where you have to walk around in tunnels and flip switches as a chicken mech? No? Too bad.
>>334996532
>no more dinosaurs
See pic
>no more shooting shield generators on foot
Walker sections are exactly that.
>>334996631
loved the chicken mech in SF2, not a problem to me. It's probably way faster than assaults ground walking anyway.
>>334996798
Monarch dodora is from the first star fox so I don't really care. what I really meant to say is no more annoying talking dinosaurs and blue towels.
>>334997053
>It's fine when Miyamoto does it
>>334997156
how do you mean
This is 100% Platinum's fault, not Miyamoto's.
>>334997370
Miyamoto pushed for the gimmicks, it's his fault
It's time to modernize!
>>334997670
>nostalgic fans will probably love it
cant wait
>To me, the gamepad demonstrates one of Nintendo’s prime issues, innovation for innovation’s sake. They cram minigames and features onto the gamepad for Star Fox Zero, yet there’s nothing about them that shows this is a “better” experience using the gamepad. Sometimes this works. Wii Bowling was more fun swinging the motion-controlled Wiimote than simply flicking a stick forward on a controller, which is why that gimmick worked (for a few games). But the gamepad? There’s very little that’s intuitive or truly innovative about it, and Star Fox Zero is now the ultimate proof of that.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/04/20/star-fox-zero-is-what-happens-when-wii-u-gamepad-integration-goes-wrong/#11c3b60c4bb7
>>334996434
They had a good run.
Star fox Zero is a really easy target for shitposters huh? I guess I'll just stop browsing /v/ in two days after I play the game
Can you honestly only use the Gyro controls? I thought you had the option at one point?
>>334997951
actual proof that metacritic doesnt mean shit; star fox command was one of the worst games i have ever played. gave me headaches.
>>334997951
IT'S GOING TO BE A SOLID 75 BY THE END OF THIS WEEK!
Miyamoto had virtually nothing to do with this. Producers in Japan are financemen. He might give his opinion on this or that but Platinum was the developer and Platinum made a turd of a game.
>>334996208
>It's literally SF64 with gimmicks.
So it is good then.
I just watched a gameplay video and the game looks amazing. The visuals look colourful and the gameplay looks just as good as I remember it for StarFox 64.
Why does /v/ have to go full defensive force on an actually good game? Were where you shitters when Undertale became popular?
>>334997951
What a shit franchise
>>334998608
What a shit post
>>334996208
Miyamoto is going to get killed by Nintendo and Yakuza
>>334998546
If it's not a 60 hour open world single player with achievements and MLG multiplayer with at least 80 dollars of DLC /v/ shits on it. It's like you've never been here.
>>334997269
>It's not ok if Assaulkt does exactly what Sf2 did
>But it's totally ok for Zero to do the same shit because of my autistic mentality that Fox and crew should never be outside of their ships yet chicken walkers are ok despite being fucking ironic
You have a double standard that's why
We all need a hero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dywc5iCMjq4
>>334997370
miyamoto directed the game you retard
platinum only made assets so they could stick their name on the press releases
>>334996208
Aside from hardcore nintendo fans, did anybody really expect anything from SFZero?
>>334998754
What are you talking about? /v/ liked Hotline Miami, and that has none of the things you mentioned. It's as if you've never been here before.
>>334997832
Holy shit I agree 100%.
The Gamepad is only good for off-screen play. Nothing like getting comfy under the covers and playing Tropical Freeze or Pikmin 3.
>>334996434
Yep.
Shitposting is out of control.
>>334998956
It was used great for W101 and Monster Hunter
>Nintendo innovates and tries something new
>Everyone shits on them for doing so meanwhile Rachet and faggot literally do a remake of the same game and get better reviews
I've never been so angry in my life. WAKE ME UP
>>334996434
Not /v/'s fault nintendo fucked up, but cover your ears and deny it all you like.
>ITT we spin 20 years playstation stagnation as a good thing.
>If you aren't making a game that could be played on a PS1 controller it's automatically trash.
My god playstation faggots aren't even trying to pretend to be at all intelligent anymore. literally kill yourselves if you can't stand that Star Fox Zero is a better game than you've ever gotten in your 20 years of fruitless attempts at begging Nintendo to go 3rd party for you.
>>334998759
what the fuck did I just watch
>>334999610
game grumps bullshit
>>334999116
>Rachet and faggot literally do a remake of the same game and get better reviews
They remade the first game to begin the reboot of the franchise and to tie into the movie. It got better reviews because it gave the FANS WHAT THEY WANTED and the new players a solid experience.
Something Nintendo is struggling to do as of late. The only series they seemingly haven't tainted is DK.
>>334996434
I should be doing this. I always forget that we have a hide feature.
Personally I'm going on media blackout and going into this as fresh as possible. I don't want to be spoiled by anything.
I'm entirely sure it's just whining and complaining since we've known that SFZ has had gyro controls since the very beginning (that you don't even need to use iirc).
>>334998764
>Directed
Not really
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Fox_Zero
Miyamoto only acts as a consultant, he hasn't directed a game since like fucking Pikmin 1
>>334998757
assault doesnt do exactly what SF2 did, what are you talking about?
>>334999116
>>334999768
You forgot Kirby anon.
Also, Yoshi's Whooly World is a huge step in the right direction for Yoshi games.
>>334998956
Splatoon's big map screen you could intuitively glance and touch to super jump to spots is better than any minimap friend. And Mario Maker uses great use of it.
>>334997670
>>334997832
Oh fuck, I didn't realize it was this bad.
I don't understand why Nintendo feels the need to innovate just for the sake of "innovating". Fuck that shit.
>>334999768
>it gave the FANS WHAT THEY WANTED
except fans didn't want a game with 1/3 of the original content missing
>>335000372
>t. somebody who has never played either original or remake
>>335000291
>Epic Yarn
>>335000372
Have you played it? It's excellent.
>>335000635
And the next three kirby games after Epic Yarn (Return to Dreamland, Triple Deluxe, Planet Robobot) were great returns to form for Kirby, and they took the yarn idea and applied it to a much more fitting franchise. What's the problem?
What's the problem?
>>335000823
Yes they were good, but I thought we were talking about franchises that haven't been tainted
>>334999768
>DK
>Implying Tropical Freeze isn't shit
It's such a goddamned tepid rehash of the Wii game, masking it's flaws with nostalgia pandering and David Wise, with a flawed co-op game that locks you out of chunks of levels. And most of the game is just samey forests or grass areas.
I have NO IDEA how people think it's great. To me it's just as shit as 3D World.
>>335001331
>And most of the game is just samey forests or grass areas.
That is blatantly false.
>I have NO IDEA how people think it's great. To me it's just as shit as 3D World.
But 3D World was fantastic too.
>>334999043
Is it me or are the shit posters trying extra hard for this game?
>>335001331
You're the minority, and the non-vocal at that.
TropFreeze as well as 3D World were great games. Not the end all be all best in the franchise, but solid 8/10. Can't say your opinion is wrong, but it's very shit.
StarFox is a literal meme game for Redditors. It's on the same autistic and cringey level as Smash.
Artificial fun.
>>334999116
If it ain't broke don't fix it, faggot
>>335001921
>If it ain't broke don't fix it, faggot
This. I don't 'get' why Nintendo needs to try to reinvent the wheel ALL the time. Clearly it's not really working out for them either. In some cases, it kind of makes sense, like 3D Land and 3D World, making 3D Marios that play more like 2D Mario, since I think a lot of people wanted something like that (so long as they go back to more 'traditional' 3D Mario eventually, it's fine by me). But why the fuck can't we just get a new Paper Mario like the first two? Why couldn't this just have been a Star Fox game like 64 but without the gimmicky controls and with some actual fresh new gameplay mechanics? Why can't they just make a new 2D or 3D Metroid again? Why can't they make a new F-Zero?
I'm cool with them innovating when it comes to new franchises entirely, which I think just about everyone agrees with. But why do they feel the need to ruin their franchises with new installments that just completely flounder?
>>335001776
thats a weird way to spell dark souls and bloodborne.
>>335002227
Also Undertale.
>>334997670
>>335000351
>star fox zero is repetitive because it keeps making you play on rails shooting sections
>being able to beat a game in a few hours is inherently bad no matter how much paths branch
This reviews are shit.
This is the graphics obsessed, 'BIG NUMBERS IS BETTER' video game generation and it's bumming me out.
>>335002340
This is what I want to believe. Reviewers didn't like W101 either and that ended up being one of my favorite games ever. It was also way better than DmC and even better than MGR and those both performed better on Metacritic. And iirc, some reviewers hated DKC:TF for being rather old school in its design and difficulty when I felt like it's one of the best games in the series.
But I wonder, how much of this is modern reviewers being modern reviewers and how much of the criticism is actually valid? I, for one, didn't want gimmicky controls in my Star Fox, I just wanted a new Star Fox game like 64.
It's so sad, because that's ALL they needed to do. But Nintendo can't even do that.
>>335001606
It's not just you. It really is worse than usual for this game.
>>335001776
You're more meme than man. Seek professional help.
>>334996208
>We wouldn't want him to suffer.
Hi r3eddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOJ58QuwBdQ
Left-stick control the direction
Right stick steer
gamepad control shooting
Dialog comes from gamepad and not from TV
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>335001921
Yup, this bullshit ruined Metroid, Sakamoto read the complaints about Other M, where everyone said that want a Metroid like the first and Super Metroid and he said while they could make one, i wouldn't be pushing the series forward, so they have to keep coming up with ideas, literally something 343i would say, WTF.
>>335001776
>>335002227
>artificial fun
What do autists seriously mean by this. Do you just suck at Smash/Souls?
>>335004480
all videogames are artificial fun. you get dopamine releases by "achieving" something that will have no effect on your life whatsoever
>>335004614
Relatively speaking, I'm pretty sure that's not what they meant.
>>334996208
Can anybody tell me what's wrong with the game? I looked at the game play footage and it appears the game isn't different from 64 version but with better graphics.
>>334996208
How is this news to you still?
Oh wait
>>334996526
But it's worse than SF64.
It's pretty obvious this was a rushed game made only to pad out the Wii U's 2016 release window because the NX will replace it soon.
>>335005294
Controls that are not standard console controllers (e.g. Dualshock), arcade stick, or kb+m are automatically bad.
>>334996451
What the fuck is this how nintendrones actually argue
>>335005732
It's sad. I'm own Nintendo and Sony consoles and it's more or less true. Unless Nintendo really kicks it off with mobile gaming and multimedia deals, they're not going to get any better. After the Wii U's abysmal job and their censorship, I'm very weary about supporting them in the future.
>>334996378
Bring on PS4K!!!!! Muddafukin SONY!!
>>335002340
>no matter how much paths branch
But they barely branch.
Falco getting his own game when?
>>335005732
nope, idort here
>>334996451
I appreciate this post. Also, its true.
Why do they always retell the same fucking story? The series is only 3 games. Star Fox/Star Fox 64/Star Fox Zero, Star Fox Adventures and Star Fox Assault.
>>335006510
Bad retort considering it's probably sell better than the NX. You need to actually make good points to argue here.
>>335006393
I'm simply not.
Haven't bought a Nintendont item in 3 years. Last was Pandora's Tower.
>>335006927
naw man, sony will win, youll see.
>>335006917
Nintendo has no clue how to tell good stories anymore. This is the same company that decided to make the last few Zelda's have awful stories unlike the lay few games.
>snes version never
>>335006964
I can see why.
>>335006974
They already have a massive lead. In genuinely curious to see how the NX will go up against the PS4 and XB1 that will have cemented their places and have even stronger libraries by the .
>>335003513
>Left-stick control the direction
>Right stick steer
>gamepad control shooting
So Splatoon?
>>335007141
>xb1
>stronger library
lol
>>334996208
Why can't you move and aim with just one stick like the other games?
Literally why?
>>335007041
> Miyamoto stated that he has never seen himself as a storyteller, and he disapproves of the rising importance of story in most modern games.
>"These younger game creators, they want to be recognised. They want to tell stories that will touch people’s hearts. And while I understand that desire, the trend worries me. It should be the experience, that is touching. What I strive for is to make the person playing the game the director. All I do is help them feel that, by playing, they’re creating something that only they could create." — Shigeru Miyamoto
BBQ: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/11201171/nintendo-super-mario-pikmin-tokyo-film-festival-mandarin-oriental-tokyo-sega-mario-kart-zelda-wii-oculus-rift.html - Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto: 'What can games learn from film? Nothing'
>>335007281
Innovation!!! I mean c'mon! It's 2016!!!
>>335005592
It's pretty obvious you are an idiot and only exist because your mom had nigger dick to pad out her afternoon before KingZZ picked her up.
>>335007248
To the masses, yes. To me, absolutely not.
>>335007307
Yeah, that's a pretty bad and lazy mindset. Games aren't toys anymore. I hope Miyamoto l can only touch simple throwaway titles now.
>>335008075
Not really. A lot of developers can do both very well and better than Nintendo. For example, Ratchet and Clank can do both gameplay and story fine. Why can't Star Fox 0 do both?
>tfw you finally bite the bullet and add "starfox" to your filter because the Shitposting and meta Shitposting has completely taken over
>>334999043
It's been especially bad for this game. Hope we can actually discuss it once people get their hands on it tomorrow but I highly doubt that.
>>334997947
Thanks for letting us know senpai
>>335001606
>>335008526
Definitely.
Some sperg is spamming anti nintendo threads 24/7 currently.
>>334996434
Between shitposting that will die down after a couple weeks or gay furry porn dumps, I'd take the former.
