So Polygon's Arthur Gies has thrown quite a temper tantrum over Star Fox Zero, claiming that the controls make the game unplayable that it's just not fun to continue.
My open response to Mr. Gies is: SUCK IT UP YOU SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE
You're a Video Game Reviewer, It's part of your job to play through games. And playing a variety of games good or bad, or outside your comfort zone is part of your job requirements.
Don't want to do your job? Fine, there's thousands of others that would be more than willing to take your place. Plus you think Star Fox Zero is an unplayable game? Have you played Superman 64? or Steel Battalion Heavy Armor? or Aquaman? or Drake of the 99 Dragons? All those games were universally panned for its unplayable controls, yet every reviewer that panned it played it all the way through CAUSE IT WAS THEIR JOB! Star Fox Zero is a cakewalk to play properly compared to those games.
Not wanting to play the game cause "u don't wike it" not only makes you look unprofessional, it makes your company look unprofessional too. And Polygon already has a shaky reputation in the video game world, so you're doing no favors by spitting the dummy on this game of all games.
BTW this is the same guy who gave The Witcher 3 an 8/10 with it not going any higher for a lack of racial and gender diversity in the game.
He also gave Bayonetta 2 a 7.5 out of 10, originally claiming it was because of her sexualised appearance. He then tried to reassess his position when asked about it saying "It wasn't because of her appearance, it was because of the game's bad camera" A criticism no one else agreed with.
>>334990938
>attention whore wants attention
you're giving him exactly what he wants
>>334990938
I'm surprised he didn't have a meltdown over the fact that there is only one girl in the game and no transdemifiendotherkindred.
>>334992040
He probably did, but just forgot about it.
>>334990938
Is he upset about Alison being fired?
It's probably for the best.
That Metacritic score ain't looking pretty
>This isn't a review of Star Fox Zero. Save for very rare, extreme circumstances, Polygon reviews require that a game be completed, or at least a good-faith effort be made to complete it.
>I am not playing any more Star Fox Zero.
He's literally admitting to not doing the job that he's paid to do, which is PLAYING FUCKING VIDEO GAMES of all things. If I pulled that kind of shit at my job I'd be fucking fired. This guy is a child.
>game requires Wii U Gamepad motion control
>limp wristed faggot cries because his limp wrists are weaker than his gag reflex and he can't git gud
>>334990938
No you fucking retard his job is to get clicks and this shit is already the article I've seen posted most about this game.
You're getting played like a bitch
>>334990938
>News site decides not to do its job for petty reasons
>this in itself is news and worth discussion
Kindly fuck off
Vidya sites are dying
Good riddance.
Why give polygon the time of day or brain power, ever?
Why?
>To me, the gamepad demonstrates one of Nintendo’s prime issues, innovation for innovation’s sake. They cram minigames and features onto the gamepad for Star Fox Zero, yet there’s nothing about them that shows this is a “better” experience using the gamepad. Sometimes this works. Wii Bowling was more fun swinging the motion-controlled Wiimote than simply flicking a stick forward on a controller, which is why that gimmick worked (for a few games). But the gamepad? There’s very little that’s intuitive or truly innovative about it, and Star Fox Zero is now the ultimate proof of that.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/04/20/star-fox-zero-is-what-happens-when-wii-u-gamepad-integration-goes-wrong/#11c3b60c4bb7
Miyamoto BTFO
>>334992670
This.
The little bitch should be fired, if he doesn't like his job he can go suck a tranny off
>>334992941
>Thank you for visiting Forbes. We noticed that you have an ad blocker enabled. Please disable it, or whitelist Forbes.com, to enter our site and receive an ad-light experience for the next 30 days.
>add forbes to my whitelist
>click continue
>same message pops up
ok fine you fucking pieces of shit I won't give you page views.
>>334992801
Fuck off that isn't even what this is about.
The game IS that bad though, so choosing not to even grant it the dignity of a review is an excellent statement that needed to be made. Platinum should be crucified for this abomination.
Let me give you a review
The game is shit
Do you think he's embarrassed?
>>334993204
And only SJWs hate half naked cartoons.
>>334990938
The game isn't even long. I don't even give a shit if he doesn't like the game. Do your job you drama queen.
>>334992801
muh boogieman
wasn't this the same guy who, instead of writing about guitar hero, wrote about how he didn't want to be at a press event for guitar hero?
nintendo fan here
even I think you're all delusional if you think this star fox is actually going to be good. I'm already reconsidering just based on the fact it has forced gyro controls, and on top of that voices only played through the controller.
Nintendo is just as bad if not worse than disney.
>>334993204
you are truly a master baiter.
>>334992930
>tfw I heard a commercial while working out for polygon podcasts
they're getting desperate
>>334993607
Completely agree.
Thanks for the publicity,
t. Polygon
>>334993082
At one point Forbes had harmful ads on their website too. Fuck sites that force you to turn off adblock.
Know what's neat? A handheld with two separate screens to help get around the crowding issues that you normally get on small screens that occasionally uses the gimmick very creatively and the rest of the time finds some kind of function for it.
Know what's not neat? A console that has a second screen on the controller that you're forced to use for core gameplay functions despite the inconvenience. I want to like the Wii U but I'm yet to see any convincing applications of its gimmick.
>>334991445
>He also gave Bayonetta 2 a 7.5 out of 10, originally claiming it was because of her sexualised appearance.
Bayonetta 2 deserved a 7.5 because it was a dull repetitive corridor masher.
The Witcher 3 also deserved an 8.
All in all, he gave decent scores, but just for the wrong reasons.
>>334993607
>Nintendo is just as bad if not worse than disney.
How? Disney is going through a Golden Age now. I know bearded grown adult men who happily admit watching Zootopia and the last 5 disney movies.
What a terrible analogy.
>>334990938
Gies is a turd, what's new
>>334993204
And every person who likes Polygon and Kotaku is a SJW hell bent on censoring video games.
See how easy it is to pull broad, sweeping generalizations out of your ass?
>>334993607
Starfox fan here, you're retarded, gyro controls are fine, git gud
>>334990938
>>334991445
>>334992670
>>334992715
>>334992954
>>334993607
>>334994467
You type of people are the exact reason why he's not going to bother reviewing the game
Only drones would think Zero is good and not a shitty rehash with forced gimmick controls
>>334994175
>masher
That's the key word of someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing regardless of what game it is they're talking about.
I was invited to a Nintendo event for star fox.
It's not good, I really wanted it to be.
>>334994685
Not him, but you obviously listed >>334993607 after just reading "nintendo fan here"
>>334994456
I wanna fuck that rabbit
>>334994512
>goo goo gaa gaa
>gooby goo goo goober
>goo gaa goo goo
That's what you sound like.Jesus fucking christ, we are living in a world where that might have been a real post.
>>334992941
He's right.
So starfox is just Kid Icarus 2.0 where people refuse to actually learn anything than the most basic videogames controls no matter how much better the game becomes once you get over the learning curve since it creates a bunch of new potential for gameplay?
>>334990938
I don't give a fuck about this reviewer or this score, but YOU special snowflake faggots have to get over yourselves and realize SOME PEOPLE fucking hate gimmicks. Whether its preference or in my case, spite for the gimmicks taking the real Nintendo into a gutter for easy cash from casuals. FUCK gimmicks, I dont like them and I never will.
For gods sake I dont even like using the fucking gamepad, it big and unsightly and the gyro gimmick and AR are intrusive and annoying.
>>334993607
videogame fan here
Have the game preordered, super excited because the gameplay trailers look super fun and exciting, and I'm not going to pass judgement on it until I get my hands on it.
Seriously do you faggots even play videogames ever?
>>334991445
bayonetta is shit, just admit it already you manchild
literally sex appeal: the game
>>334993950
reek.github.io/anti-adblock-killer
>>334995143
Don't bother.
>>334995171
>arguing with holes
>>334995143
>Seriously do you faggots even play videogames ever?
Nigger what are you doing? Implying i play such childish things as GAMES ?
Splatoon took me about a day to learn the controls.
This sounds like old men who play with children's toys for a living giving a game a bad review because the controls take a modicum of practice.
>>334995171
>i've never played bayonetta: the post
>>334994685
Calm down Arthur.
I'm sure if you stop being so hostile Reggie will invite your mom to that seafood dinner he promised.
>>334991445
A lot of people think that the camera work is literally the only problem with bayonetta in a "sexy" way. i.e. the character is fine, but the camera is focusing on the wrong things, to use a comparison, it's like hiring an amazing character actress but the cameraguy from babestation.
>>334990938
Though it's kinda funny that saying it's not a review and that these are the reasons why are actually a review.
>>334992801
Trust me, you don't have to be involved in GG to hate the shit out of Polycuck. Shitting on that site is practically a /v/ pastime.
>>334990938
>Nintendrone Defence Force
>>334990938
You know it's just click bait right? .Just avoid those stupid sites and maybe one day they are forced to have some proper content
There's no defending SFZ
They literally just copy and pasted Star Fox 64 and gave it shit graphics. Even the plot is the exact same as SF64.
This is exactly whats wrong with gaming journalism and why it shouls be considered a fucking joke.
Because retards like this. I'm sure its a shit game but you cant deny to do your FUCKING JOB.
>>334990938
>Polygon taking advantage of controversial games to create drama and clickbait articles.
Nothing new under the sun, OP's a certifiable retard.
Get with the times, OP!The casuals have won.
>>334990938
>Guy refuses to do something
Who fucking cares? Why is it important this person review the game, especially after you just indicated >>334991445 his reviews and opinions are worthless.
I'll never understand how /v/ gets obsessed over the most backwards logic. Instead of just a SFZ thread you made a thread about Polygon's non-review of SFZ.
>>334995041
Kid Icarus was trash
>>334993132
How would you know it's bad if you don't review it?
>>334995824
So the verdict is mediocrity?
I can never tell with these game review numbers because 70 is just a passing grade.
>>334990938
What a casual.
>People getting sick and tired of gimmick shit like current 3d headsets and motion controls
>Game reviewers are starting to get tired of Nintendo shit n gimmicks
>Nintendrones on full ass blasted mode
>>334990938
>polygon
>arthur giles
go away
stop giving them views
QUESTION PLEASE
If I want to use the pro controller, I'm stuck using the fucking gyro controls on the wii u gamepad to play this entire game?
>>334995927
Starfox on the SNES was mediocre, 64 was mediocre, Assault was mediocre, what do you think it is?
>>334995927
The main skewing factor is that these games can often be dull as shit, but people will jump down their throats if they say the game is bad if it was really heavily polished. Coupled with the fact that editors will often give games to people who are more likely to like that game/be good at it it'll end up a bit skewed.
>>334990938
>>334991445
This guy is going to suicide himself during the Trump Presidency.
>>334995972
>Mfw the death of nintendo is imminent
Feels good to know they are getting shitted on even further. Make a fucking console that is just good hardware and controls, games and people will buy it.
Continue to add shit no one wants and suffer because of it your only remaining fanbase is faggot nintendrones.
>>334995824
Someone said he'll defend Starfox Adventures, so his opinion was immediately invalidated
>>334990938
tldr
why didn't you just sent him an email? or a tweet? You know, something he can actually see.
Someone's mad Nintendo blew Emily Rogers the fuck out
>>334996185
Nintendo is filthy rich, has more money than Sony, and the Wii U has been profitable. Nintendo isn't even close to death, at all. They are very conservative with their cash and could release multiple dud consoles and games and not be affected at this point.
>>334996203
Because he'll be like "fuck you" and go about his day and the aim of this is solely to vent and attack people for... reasons.
Always play the opposite of what Polygon dislikes.
>>334990938
>piss easy job where all you have to do is write review fucking video game
>complain
reminds me of those old destructoid - rev youtube videos back when max was in it, where they cry about how hard it is to do actual work when e3 comes around.
all this while drinking beer in a comfortable room.
>>334992915
Implying any people here don't have adblock on
Damn you sure told him on this anonymous image board
I actually kind of sympathize with them for putting their foot down on shitty forced Miyamoto gimmicks when a normal control scheme to coexist along with it would be perfectly doable.
And Star Fox had already been a victim of it before.
>>334996363
Do you really want to test that theory? If everyone in this thread alone took screenshots of the thread most would have ads. Kaceytron's nuthuggers definitely have it off since they needed to know and then post about her getting ad space.
>>334996494
Let Nintendo innovate. For fucks sake do you want every fucking console to be the exact fucking same?
>>334990938
He's right. Glad to see some people actually call out Nintendo for their shit.
>>334990938
>Have you played Superman 64? or Steel Battalion Heavy Armor? or Aquaman? or Drake of the 99 Dragons?
Must you eat shit to reviwes a cuisine?
>>334996297
This is the best advice. When i saw their review of W101 i was sceptical, but then after playign W101 i knew that polygon is the perect barometer. If they say the controls are shit, then that means the game is too hard for the Arthur ''tardrage'' Gies and worthy of a try
>>334995927
I have no idea and neither do they, apparently.
>>334996178
I wish he wouldn't wait until then.
>>334993325
Why would he? He knows people will by his shit
>>334996494
Ah, you are part of the Keepo it the same shitposters ?
You should call your REHASH friends so the threads can be safely culled.
>>334991445
Is he the same guy that acts like a fucking fag in that VR gun simulator?
Because if he isn't i can´t believe polygon has more than one extreme fag
Nintendrones are seriously cancer.
>Game is ass
>Game looks like ass
>Game does nothing innovative
>Game is barely on par with a nintendo 64 game
>Game has almost no content
>"DOSE EVIL FUKEN GAME JURNOUS, THEY JUST DON'T GET IT! WHY ARE THEY SO DUMB?! IT DESERVES A BETTER SCORE!"
>>334991445
>gave Witcher 3 an 8/10
You're right, that does seem high.
Why does 7 = mediocre?
>>334996494
I think the inherent problem with Command was that it was just an overall shitty game, not its touch controls. Granted, those were annoying. Though from what I've experienced on Splatoon, gyro controls combined with shooting are slightly less annoying than touch combined with shooting. Kid Icarus and Command gave me cramps.
>/v/ will defend this
>>334996550
When the shitty forced gimmick controls that actively harm the game's quality are "innovation" then no, I don't want Nintendo to innovate. Do you honestly think Command is a better game for forcing you to use the stupid touch screen exclusively to fly? Have we not all come to terms how shit waggle was all along since the Wii honeymoon ended? How we not realized that the tablet is pointless expensive garbage and an ergonomic nightmare?
>>334996550
>retarded gimmick
>retarded gimmick
>retarded gimmick
>retarded gimmick
What's the difference?
>>334996261
You'll be happy to know that all that money wont stop them from making shit consoles and losing shareholders.
The meme of "LE NINTENDO HAS LIKE 1 KAZILLION DOLLARS IN THE BANK" needs to die
Just because you have a large fucking sum put away does not make you a company that will never be doomed to die someday.
>JUST LET NINTENDO INNOVATE GUYS IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE GIMMICKS SHIT UP THE GAME IT'S FINE
>>334996623
>Command
>76
>Assault
>67
How in the world? I mean Assault isn't perfect but how could they rate Command even higher? It was an abomination.
>>334990938
What did Platinum even do? Make the cutscenes?
>>334997014
That is just proof that metacritic, and scores in general, do not work.
>>334996550
>>334996689
Are you guys seriously generalizing that anon's concerns with unseemly experimentation having questionable results with a chokehold on innovation?
If we're going into hyperbole territory then one extreme is as bad as the other, because you're basically saying quality check through comparison to a prior standard should not exist lest it stifle creativity regardless of whether said creativity creates anything worthwhile.
Different for the sake of different is not a viable design philosophy. Food analogy time, there's a difference between telling McDonald to only sell the Quarter Pounder and nothing else and asking them not to put the fucking patties as buns and the bun as a patty to shake things up. Put whatever ingredients inside the dish, but I'd like to be able to hold my shit regular how I usually do. Not an unreasonable request.
>>334996261
The past few years should really make them re-evaluate themselves.
They're not exactly doing well, and continuing their current trend of mediocrity is not what a business should do, even if your warchest is as big as Apple's.
The main problem is that Nintendo's so disconnected from their fanbase. The hardcore fans are feeding their mouths, but those can only last so long. They used to be gaming giants who you can trust will make good games, now the only people defending them are hardcore nintendo fans.
I personally disliked the Wii. I bought every nintendo console before that (sony consoles/xbox 1 was given to me secondhand). I don't plan on buying any next gen consoles soon, but Nintendo has really lost me as a customer, and their fans aren't helping
>>334992941
It's true, though. Ultimately a new form of control needs to justify itself in how it opens up new types of gameplay or is more intuitive, and so many games just don't. I haven't played Zero yet, so I can't say it it's one of them, but plenty exist, even in Nintendo's first-party AAA catalog.
>>334997090
They literally don't. It's why I'm waiting for the game to come out before I evaluate it.
>>334997184
They made bank in Japan from Splatoon. I think they're busy patting themselves on the back.
>>334994129
Two screens for the DS works out really well because they are both in your field of view at all times. For most of the Wii U gamepad shit to work you have to take your focus off of the TV to see what is on the game pad, and you have to at the very least take a thumb off of the buttons/stick to use touch screen shit - you may as well just be accessing a standard pause menu.
Off screen play is OK I guess, but even that has very limited range. I actually really like being able to plug in head phones, but most of the time you can't actually get the game audio to play through that way unless you are playing full gamepad mode. All in all the gamepad is pretty fucking useless.
>>334992670
No his job is to generate clicks and discussion
Which you guys are doing
He's doing his job
>>334990938
>SUCK IT UP YOU SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE
No, the 10 milions who bought the worst Nintendo console since Virtual Boy are the true special snowflakes
>>334997350
I feel like they're still patting themselves on the back for the success of the Wii.
It's like they're not aware of how they're becoming something they never wanted to be with physical DLCs with content locked behind it and mobile apps.
>>334990938
>Actually caring about Polygon
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAAHHAHHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHHHHHAHHHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAH
>>334997554
>mobile apps
You're not a Japanese developer if you aren't shitting out mobile shovelware with massive microtransactions to make a quick buck without any consideration for your reputation.
>>334997115
What are you talking about
Game consoles would just be a console and a basic controller if you were in charge. No one would take risks. We wouldn't have the had the analog stick or the directional pad Nintendo pioneered.
>>334997184
Insanely successful in the handheld market, they own the business. Everyone has agreed the NEW 3DS has impeccable 3D and is a solid console, the 3D is a worthwhile addition to the system now and Nintendo is unsurpassed in the handheld market, period.
They blew everyone out of the water with the Wii and far outsold their competitors, they made fat fucking bank off technology that was created during the GameCube era and profited immensely.
Wow, wow. The Wii U didn't sell that well but was still profitable. WOW. Time to re-evaluate!
>polygon thread
>ctrl+f:
>"phillippines"
>"kuchera"
>"Sunset"
>0 results
What the fuck.
I know it's 4/20 but you guys are slip tripping hard
>Souls series found a formula people love
>keep the same basic formula, and add/alter things along the way
>fans love the games
>same for CoD
>same for Pokemon, etc
>Nintendo gets a series people love
>"lets as as many gimmicks as possible or make drastic changes in an attempt to fix something that isn't broken"
>>334997801
>>334993325
i have a feeling miyamoto is very ashamed of this game
it's even sadder that it will probably be the last game he will ever work on
>>334997184
>I personally disliked the Wii. I bought every nintendo console before that
N64 sold like shit.
GameCube sold like shit.
Wii sold like gold.
>>334990938
>>334997849
I dont mind change, but they have been doing their games more simple and basic to pander to casuals. This Starfox is slower than the N64 version when it should be the other way.That's why I am pissed.
>>334997950
>last game he will ever work on
>>334997996
>nu_male.jpg
>>334997184
I generally enjoyed most of the Wii U games. But it seems that since Iwata died, every new game has been a mediocre mess, barring a handful of great titles like Mario Maker and XCX.
Almost everything else has been rushed, soulless garbage. What the fuck happened? Is this what Nintendo has become?
>>334990938
If anyone's mad, it's you.
Starfox fucking sucks and always has. Who reads polygon? Who cares about Starfox?
Shut the fuck up.
>>334996623
Adventure could literally keep you from progressing the game because you did too well at a mini game the first time it was presented. Game breaking bugs deserve a much lower score.
>>334998298
What are you taking about? This has been like this way before Iwata died. NSMB is the most generic, soules Mario series ever created.
>>334997986
And that's the biggest problem. I didn't like the Wii because a lot of the first party games had forced waggle, which I hated. I can see why it's considered a good console though because of games like SMG.
Nintendo somehow thought that to continue the Wii's success they have to add gimmick to everything. Most of Wii sales are from casual games who bought it for wii sports to put it in their house to play indoor sports once in a while. The WiiU sales show that.
Even the 3DS, the 3DS isn't successful because of 3D, it's successful because of huge following games like Pokemon, which people will always buy.
Their success for their mobile consoles shouldn't mean that they shouldn't re-evaluate the state of their home console, and I can't believe anyone would still be defending them and their chain of mediocrity.
Honest question, why do you guys even browse Polygon? Its shit
>>334994685
Shittiest bait I've ever seen holy shit
>>334990938
Polygon is bad, Arthus is bad, but Star Fox Zero is also bad. Not hard or unplayable, but bad.
>Friend only buys Nintendo consoles
>He's actually buying this game thinking its going to be good
Man he needs to give up and get a high end PC along with a PS4.
>>334990938
I'm going to let you in on a trade secret: Most 'reviewers' barely play games at all. They receive an electronic press kit that has all sorts of bullet points and features of the game. Sometimes reviewers just copy and paste the shit without even adding any of their own personality.
That said, I have not played Star Fox Zero. I don't know if I will. The last time I enjoyed a Star Fox game was on the 64, but the idea of forced motion controls really does not seem appealing at all.
>>334998340
Honestly fucking this. Polygon editors are retarded, but so are the people who get mad at them for it. It's like if someone wrote 'I fckued you're mum' on xbox live and you made a blog post about it.
>>334990938
>game is ok at best
>creators realize this and don't really make anymore
>"buut where are muh new starfox game??"
>creators don't really want to revisit "ok" game
>"waahhh gibe me star fox!!!"
>creators give in and make a new entry
>"wow game sucks !!!"
Big fucking surprise there.
Assault was the pinnacle of the franchise and even that wasn't up to snuff.
Just don't beg for an F Zero, you already know that's shit too.
>>334999125
>along with a PS4.
but why.
Bloodborne?
>>334999617
Theres more than just Bloodborne.
>>334999797
Yes, like?
>>334999797
this
there is also a new 4K bluray player coming out soon
>>334995041
Kid Icarus was a 10/10 masterpiece once yougitgud
>>334996773
Regardless of how mediocre the game is Polygon is doing a shitty job at journalism as usual by not reviewing it properly, which is the point of this thread. Not how good or bad the game is
>>334994685
>Only drones would enjoy a game
Oh yeah.
>>334999886
Senran Kagura Estival Versus
Neptunia VII
Killzone Shadowfall
Guilty Gear Xrd
BlazBlue Chronophantasma Extend(Dentral Fiction coming)
Uncharted 4(Comes out in May)
Disgaea 5
Nights of Azure
Witch and the Hundred Knight Remaster
Atelier Sophie(Out in June)
Star Ocean 5(Out June)
Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator(June)
Dark Souls 2 and 3(I know its also on other platforms but who gives a fuck, its fucking Dark Souls)
Odin Sphere(June)
Project Diva X(Fakk 2016)
Ratchet & Clank
DOAX3
>>335000413
Aight so unreleased games, multiplats, and shit
>>335000413
I'm still searching.
Anything that's not weebshit or avalaible on PC?
>>335000478
Are you intentionally overlooking Uncharted 4?
>>335000551
Hallway simulator cool!
>>335000551
But that's a movie, anon.. And unreleased.
>>334995883
You must have a fucked idea of what is fun.
>>334990938
Isn't this Nintendo's first big release since the whole Alison Rapp thing? Wonder if that had anything to do with it.
>>335000772
I think youre right. You know, hate this industry. its all turning into some fox news tier rhetorical bullshit.
>>334993132
How do you know that if you never played it?
>>335000413
>All this multiplat weebshit
>Blazblue which already was on the ps3
>Guilty Gear listed twice
So, just Ratched & Clank, and Bloodborne
>>334995972
>meanwhile every idiot is jumping on the bandwagon for gimmick VR headsets
It's sad the people who can't adapt to a simple controller but expect the VR fad to actually work properly.
>>335000903
>its all turning into some fox news tier rhetorical bullshit.
I'm sure its this. And not that he thought the game was just unplayble and thus not worth talking about.
Its about scoring brownie points in academic circles.
>>334999535
>Assault was the pinnacle of the franchise
>>335001491
It's about getting easy clicks.
>>335000413
So, quantity over quality. The operating mantra of PlayStation.
>>334998340
Heck Starfox sell like shit in Japan which is understandable since it not popular over there.
>>335001491
I hate to fence sit, oh who am I kidding I love pulling it off, but honestly it could be both. Not a hard thing to juggle when your career is bullshitting 101.
what the fuck
I'm going to legitimately cry. How is this good for anyone?
>>334990938
you actually read Polygon and you're mad about it? hahaha
fucking idiot, if you don't like the taste of shit then stop eating it.
>>334995171
At least try.
>>334995171
1/10
terrible bait
>>334990938
To be fair, isn't "The control scheme is so bad I litterally can not play it" exactly the kind of criticism we want?
Like, that has nothing to do with story, feminism, or SJW bullshittery. It's a straight forward stance on one of the most critical bits of game design.
>>334993325
He has always been afraid of people with more talent than him, he is actually enjoying the final nail on the coffin of starfox, he dedicated years of his life just for this moment, he never had a bit of respect for the franchise.
>>335002090
>what Miyamoto wants, Miyamoto gets
He's not wrong. Miyamoto butchers titles with his "creative inputs". They need to stick him in a corner somewhere and leave him.
>>335002019
Almost every other reviewer uses the learning curve as part of the review and comments eventually getting the hang of it. Even Giant Bomb, even though they gave a 2 out of 5. He didn't bother at all thus review is nullified
>>335002090
B
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I know this sounds like lemons.jpg, but having whack-ass controls only makes me want to get it more
I love shit like that. Splatoon, KI:U, W101, Gun Valkyrie, Pandora's Tower, Mechwarrior etc.
Give me more of that crazy shit that forces me to learn it before I can play
Wasn't getting the game before but I will be now. I know I'm in the minority, though.
>>334990938
I don't know who he is and neither should you. Stop giving faggots the time of the day because they are supposedly video game reviewers.
>>335002423
No, youre not alone.
This industry is far too scared to try out new controls. Everything is way too standard and feels samey. Its boring.
>>335002423
Same here, if the controls work for the players benefit at the end, I am willing to try.
>>335002423
I want to try it out myself before considering the reviews. It's clearly a personal preference thing
>>335002423
Pandora's Tower 's controls were perfect. I actually found the game impossible with the classic controller. One of the best uses of wii controls outside of Sports Resort.
>>335002090
This guy sounds like a bro
Fuck Miyamoto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOJ58QuwBdQ
Left-stick control the direction
Right stick steer
gamepad control shooting
Dialog comes from gamepad and not from TV
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>334996773
It's the review being talked about, subhuman scum.
>>334990938
Any source of turning motion controls off or using the pro controller?
>>335002423
>Mechwarrior
>whack-ass controls
Are you retarded
>>335003516
>Any source of turning motion controls off or using the pro controller?
you can't
Maybe Nintendo will release a patch...
Nintendo fans
Bad controls = Learning control scheme
>From /v/ to U
So, do I get Star Fox Zero or should I get Stranger of Sword City and the physical Sega 3D Classics Collection? I'm unsure if SFZ will be the type of game that has a limited print run (well, the bundle, at least).
>>335003427
What about that sounds Bro
>>335003674
Tell me the first time you hooked up your flight stick you didn't have absolutely no clue what the fuck was going on
>>335003901
Bad controls would be imprecise/unresponsive etc.
If they're precise and responsive then they're just unintuitive at worst, and plenty of games with unintuitive controls work fine when you learn them
I have no idea if any of this applies to Zero, I haven't played it. Reviewers do have a tendency to be retarded about strange controls though
>>335004450
>strange controls though
Nintendo relativist.
>>334997950
>>334998181
He's already working on Pikmin 4.
>>334996865
people who play video games don't know how to score
I always found that so fucking dumb
I remember when games only came with one control scheme, and you had better git gud or fuck off
>>334992530
Hes upset she didnt suck his dick to build them businesz connections
>>335000772
I wouldn't be surprised if that were part of it, but I think it's more that review sites have moved really far away from core gamers. When's the last time someone who was good at games reviewed a game?
>>334993082
Never go on Forbes anon, the served malware via their ads for quite a while.
>game is advertise with "we will use the pad" in E3
>nintendo is the only one to make gimmicks
>re-release of an old title, the only changed being the gimmicks
>"man I hate gimmicks! why do they do this!?"
seriously? let's make a food analogy: it's like going to a vegan restaurant and complaining about the lack of meat.
the funny part is: they were probably the first to hype the VR to death.
>>334994175
>bayonetta a button masher
How are those stone ratings on easy mode working out senpai?
>>335004192
Anything but starfox. Not much content and seems underwhelming.
Zero seems like a game you can watch and not play, and still get the full experience.
>>335007552
>Zero seems like a game you can watch and not play, and still get the full experience.
>they didn't play it right
Same fanboy excuse that was used for Sonic Flop World
>>334990938
You fucking manchild. Who gives a shit?
>>335004735
>>334991445
Shame, TW3 deserved lower for having such garbage gameplay and combat.
Jesus christ, look at those nintentoddlers, getting mad at some reviewer, lol.
>>335008793
But thats just how every single game plays.... is this a ruse?
but let's be honest, despite Arthur Gies' shit tier opinions, this game looks pretty shit
>>334994175
>Bayonetta 2 deserved a 7.5 because it was a dull repetitive corridor masher.
With those descriptions, you can say the same about From Software games.
Barely a franchise with all the dead weight and wasted potential.
>>334991445
>>334998694
Yep! It's Super Mario Bros. 3
>>334991445
>BTW this is the same guy who gave The Witcher 3 an 8/10 with it not going any higher for a lack of racial and gender diversity in the game.
No one cares goober.
>>335008968
Back then, it was new. Now it's considered common.
>>334990938
to hard to play, Kek! fucking casual! sit down and learn the controlls, then make the review retard.
>>335002090
>/v/'s hateboner for Miyamoto has gotten so big some are praising fucking Cuthbert of all people
Yeah the amazing mind behind Star Fox Command totally knows what he's talking about.
>>334991445
>BTW this is the same guy who gave The Witcher 3 an 8/10
His reasons were dumb but it deserved less than that, it's shallow as shit an the gameplay falls flat. Games aren't all about story, they're games.
Nintendo has this massive problem where they never actually commit to an audience.
They say they want to be for everyone, but then the games they pump out are too complicated for your average casual, for example in MK8 there is no longer a Automatic mode which helped casuals who didn't want to snake everywhere. Also the WiiU controller is just awkward even for "hardcore" gamers.
On the other hand, they never commit to the hardcore, all their games are way too shallow and frankly easy for a hardcore experience.
So you get these weird games that please nobody except Nintendo fanboys who will eat up anything put out by Nintendo.
Something as well is they've gone in the complete wrong direction with most of their franchises in recent years and often flat out ignore what their fanbase wants, for example, it's pretty clear now Nintendo are pretty much giving a massive "fuck you" to Paper Mario fans. What about Pokemon? Ni No Kuni is what Pokemon should be in 2016, yet we still have a game that mechanically plays like a early 1990s JRPG.
Also the lack of Online support, the terrible operating system etc.
One place I will defend Nintendo is with the Wii. I think the Wii was a fantastic console with an amazing library. The Wii is probably my number 1 played console of all time (especially once it was softmodded) and this is someone who owns literally ever Nintendo console apart from the Wii U and Virtual Boy.
>>334995181
Thanks a lot, Anon
I'm never turning off Adblock. Had multiple instances of getting infected because of bullshit malicious ads. Assholes.
>>335000413
>weebshit
>>335002090
>Dylan Cuthbert
>More talented than Miyamoto
>>334990938
Meh, he simply won't complete the game because he finds it unplayable due to the controls.
At least he is giving his thoughts and not a full review like most sites would do.
>>334991445
>Claiming a game basically set in Poland needs diversity of any kind
>>334990938
It takes literally an hour to master
>it's a "gaming media reveals how shitty they are at games while crapping on Nintendo for not sucking their dicks" episode
>game is literally fast, challenging, has high framerate and is fun
>gets shitposted by casual NeoGAF tourists because of mixed scores for a Platinum game (shocker)
Guess it's time to leave /v/ for good...
Why would you bother learning the controls for this, maybe they are amazing once you do that but you only have this many >>334996882 levels to learn half of which are tiny bonus stages. You don't even do routes like the past games
Fighting games have complex controls, but you have a multiplayer section so getting good make sense. Souls games can feel slow and clunky at first, but you have a huge rpg to play and multiplayer. By the time you get good at SF0 you've probably played all it has to offer
>>335011043
There's no "energy" to Zero, if that makes any sense. It has the same issue Assault did with its story mode, with it being way too slow and hard to just jump into the action like 64 could.
Like in SNES/64, you're almost always moving at a pretty good clip, and it doesn't really apply here. There's no forward momentum, and just watching Zero's gameplay makes me want to take a nap.
>>335010982
People are just mad as fuck over what Nintendo said about Assault.
>>335010982
Zero's not a bad game, it's just trying way too hard to be another 64, along with having some pretty questionable gameplay features nobody asked for.
>>335002090
Cuthbert is a hack.
Honestly, we should have all known something was wrong when Nintendo announced Zero would be packaged with a Tower Defense spinoff.
Zero is an absolute disgrace
How anyone can defend it is beyond me. I can load up 64 or even assault and have a blast, but the stupid gyro gimmick and piss poor graphics just completely ruin it for me
Assault looks better than this garbage
>>335011851
I'll disagree with you on the graphics part; they're obviously better, but that's actually a detriment.
With 64, shit was low-poly but it didn't much matter because most enemies had an on-screen lifespan of like three seconds. But as graphics have gotten gud, devs seem hellbent on making on-rail shooters (and games in general, really) as slow as possible so they can force you to see all the work they put into the enemies that are still only on-screen for a moment.
>>334990938
Why the fuck is this allowed?
Why hasn't this cunt lost his job yet?
He's required to complete games and provide his opinion on them, he should be prepared for something like this.
I don't give a fuck if you prefer story over gameplay, I couldn't care less if you want to push social justice or gender diversity in your games.
Just fucking prove that you have the competency to do the job you signed up for, please.
>>335010370
>takes an hour
So you learn the controls after you beat the game?
>>335013413
lmao
>>334990938
>game is so shit that reviews can't even be bothered to finish it
>release their assessment of the game but honestly point out that it doesn't qualify as a review by their own standards because they've made no attempt to finish it
what's wrong with this
there are so many legitimate things to criticise arthur gies for that this just seems pointless
>>335004285
>Tell me the first time you hooked up your flight stick
Tier 5 confirmed, stop shitting up MWO for everyone who wants all their team members to at least be able to aim straight.
He's kind of right though. I'm 4 stages in and it really didn't need all these gimmicks.
Having the only control options being to either have the gyro aiming always on, or only on when firing (which you're always doing) doesn't help. You're constantly re-calibrating your controls.Then there's being forced to look at the gamepad every few seconds because the TV display switches to some kind of cinematic view where you can't tell where you're aiming. Of course on the gamepad you can't see what's around you, so you need to constantly look back at the TV to gather your surroundings.
Not only that but the Arwing itself feels really sluggish. Getting it to move in general just feels slow and using the lean function is absolutely required if you want to turn with anything approaching a decent speed.
Zoness wasn't fun. It was the gimmicky drone/stealth stage. It's way too long and whilst getting caught isn't a problem because it just gives you 5 enemies to destroy, you're going at a snails pace anyway because the drones tether is as short as an asian man's dick and when it's reached it's limit it starts to drag the dropship along with it at a crawl.
Oh and fuck the game for having TWO forced tutorials. One even before the title screen. The walker is pretty fun, but turning with it is a huge pain in my ass.
>>334990938
Is it the same guy who cried while holding a gun in vr?
>>334994129
Complaining about being forced to use the gamepad screen is like complaining about how you have to use a specific button on any controller to play a game.
>>334994689
thank god someone said it.
>bayonetta
>a masher
it's incredibly complex, that combat system.
>>334990938
I hate polygon so much... But at least it's a containment site. I never go there and only ever hear about them from here or when someone mocks them on Twitter.
>>335009572
I don't think it's as much about committing as it is trying to be different. Now that they are under new leadership, it will be interesting to see what the NX actually becomes.
>>334999535
Assault was mediocre as fuck
This guys job is not to review games. There are no serious game critics that exist in this world. This guys job is to get page views for his company because his company makes money off of ad revenue. He's doing a damn good job because of retards like you that make a fuss every time he posts anything. If Polygon took game criticism seriously, do you think this guy would still have a job? You fucking neo-/v/ faggots only increase the problem 10x more.
To be fair, Polygon should stop reviewing games in general. Baby steps.
>nintenyearolds mad the only game they get this year is shit
I hate Polygon and think they should jump into a volcano but I don't like the gyro controls. The only good game on the Wii U that uses them is Splatoon. I love my Wii U, but most of the best games on the system can be played with the pro controller. The gyro controls are a gimmick and I would be happy to see them go.
>>334990938
He is a retard. But any game that has "weight" movement or input lag is an immediate drop for me. Your game's action needs to react as soon as I hit that button press, boy. Or you better believe I'm going to take 2 points off from my review.
>Polygon
Who cares
>>334994685
Question. Why would you want a polygon review in the first place? It will tell you literally nothing about the game except for whether or not it has black/gay characters
>Watch youtube videos of people playing the game just fine with supposedly unplayable controls.
ok
>A fucking video game reviewer can't do his fucking job.
A new low
