If one would want to start playing this again how would they go about it? Are there any good vanilla servers? Higher skilled servers?
>>334972321
Don't bother. It's shit.
>>334972472
Well it's the only game with rocket jumping and such that has an actual player base. Wanted to have fun with that
Don't.
the optimisation went to shit,the game Is a cesspool of underage and le hat obsession meme.
>>334972321
if you just want to have fun, normal valve servers are fine, competitive should be out soon so if you want a ranked system just wait until then
>>334972321
Try and find yourself a community you can relate with and tolerate. Takes a while but trust me it's worth it.
>>334972552
Go get assraped on Quake live,then,still better then tf2.
>>334972562
I understand, that's why I asked about Vanilla. Doubt many kids and hat fags would be on there
>>334972607
Are they really gonna do a CSGOish ranking system? Will loadouts be locked to certain stuff? I'm really unaware of all the stats on all the new stuff
>>334972709
Yeah its tame on Vanila. Sine Tough Break is over I would imagine there being less kiddos and just new and old players.
>>334972670
Did they undo all the shit they did to quake live?
>>334972709
so far in the beta of the system there are no class or weapon restrictions so the meta will be different than the unofficial competitive scene
>>334972960
Hm, I feel like it might be a bit hell as someone who basically has nothing that isn't Vanilla.
>OH MAN WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE X AND Y? KICKED
>>334973003
possibly, but that means they'd be down a player which is worse than any bad player
>>334973205
Would be nice if they did a playlist with Vanilla items only for that Ranked thing. Like how CSGO has different map groups. I'll see, just kind of want to play the game again some
>>334973468
the best way to learn is by doing, just jump into a valve server and see what works and what doesn't for a few matches, in my experience stock weapons are a good bet
>>334973631
Yeah, I hear stock are pretty good. I've played a lot, just not in a few years and I never really looked into all the stats and meta and everything. I hate doing that
dumb game, heavy is overpowered
>>334974196
Heavy is shit dudeDoesn't stop it from being my main
My only complaints about TF2 is the garbage optimization and how common steamrolling is on Valve servers. The latter can at least be partially resolved by finding a nice community and comp. mode. MvM is shit, but that can be ignored.
>>334974526
>>334972321
Optimization is fucking awful and as far as vanilla servers go, I don't know. All my favorite servers are dead so I wouldn't know what to recommend.
>tf2 is almost 10 years old and there hasn't been a single major optimization update yet
let that sink in
>>334974196
>Heavy wanders onto the battlefield
>You can actually hear the pin drop before every last person turns their gun on him and he gets destroyed in seconds
>Can't do shit because his main gun only works at mid-range
>>334977423
>even if he did spin up he wouldn't do any damage before getting destroyed because his minigun doesn't do jack shit until being spun up for 1 second
as a guy who likes to play heavy, the fact that they keep making him worse every update kills me a little
>those melee nerfs in tough break
>>334978007
At least he's still fun to surprise people around corners with
>That panicked reaction when you leap around a corner with your gun spinning up into someone's face
>community updates are incredibly mediocre and promise too much
>valve updates are just balancing the game for whoever whines the loudest, maps, and skins.
>"bimonthly"
TF2's gonna die again, isn't it?
>>334978007
He's still pretty good in pubs because nobody focuses and they just walk into your gun.
Comp he's a decent pick on some maps, just gotta stay back and focus on denying bombers and mowing down overextended players.
>>334972321
>Are there any good vanilla servers? Higher skilled servers?
/v/ plays matches from time to time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0bnxfX3LwA
There's also FITH and critsandvich.
Dont. All the traders who kept the game afloat cashed out a long time ago. gaben is desperately trying to milk the cow and is failing bad. The gameplay too has gone to shit. Well it's always been shit, like a bucket of freshly squeezed milk with a turd of cow shit in it. Not the entire bucket is shit with a few drops of milk here and there.
>>334978981
I wish it would stay dead so maybe Valve will have the tiniest of incentives to make an actual game again instead of half-assed DOTA updates.
I started playing again few days ago after not playing since March 2012. Game apparently is full of hackers now. 5 of them in the last couple days, all aimbotting with sniper.
>>334974526
>>334975234
>>334976912
>can't run TF fucking 2
what kind of MSDOS pile of shit are you guys playing on
>>334981154
They didn't say they couldn't run it, the optimization is just nonexistent. It's not a great sign when a game that used to run flawlessly now sends those same computers into overdrive trying to run it.
>>334977423
Good thing all offensive classes only work in mid/close-range then
>>334981887
Heavy is so slow that every single offensive class can shit on him at long range.
>>334982307
you mean poking at a heavy with long range pistol/scattergun is going to kill one? projectiles aren't a threat at long ranges anyway
>>334974526
>playing in a valve server
>you are second best player but top frag has like 30 more points than you
>get autobalanced to the other team
>get pooped on
every time
Also, people playing spy or sniper should get a legitimate reason to kick them.
>>334982531
If a soldier loses to a heavy he is a shit soldier.
>>334982887
Heavy with heals is the closest thing soldier has to a true counter. He can easily deny bombs forcing soldiers to plink at him from range.
Reminder that if you play on a no crit server you are worse than f2p player
Just join a Valve server and play with randos. It's not that bad.
>>334985339
>I need RNG to get kills
snipers will defend this
>>334985639
>I got buttmad when RNG killed me
>>334986072
How would I get killed by RNG on a no crit server?
>>334979210
fucking hell /v/ is bad at tf2
>>334986154
That's why you ran off to the no crit server, nerd
Couldn't take the heat
If you want to play anyone good you HAVE to go HL/6s. Tight knit community servers with decent players are dead.
>>334986305
>Needing any effort whatsoever to stomp valve pubs
>vanilla TF2
>TF2 without krtiz / quickfix
>TF2 without gunboats
>TF2 without degreaser
>TF2 without huntsman
>TF2 without sandvich
When will this meme end? I highly doubt you pub shitters even know the fundamentals of TF2.
Don't mind me posting the worst map ever
>>334987085
I would argue that Hightower is worse, but I feel like naming any Payload race is cheating
>>334987037
>degreaser
>huntsman
>quickfix
>good additions to the game
>>334987085
2fort and dustbowl are worse
>>334985917
i use it for peace of mind mostly,
i cant concentrate on sniping with the constant anticipation of being suddenly backstabbed which usually scares the crap out of me
>>334985339
cant wait for those loli train robot pissing scenes
>>334987257
Medics have to worry about snipers
Demos have to worry about scouts
Engineers have to worry about demos
Put on your big boy pants, use jarate and be a team player
>>334987085
That's not cp_steel
>>334987252
>degreaser
Made pyro into a fun combo based class.
>huntsman
Made sniper fun
>quick fix
I can't think of a single complaint about this
>>334987252
Nigger there is air space and mobility in both of those maps. You are confined inside a tiny ass building on Junction. And without fail half of Red always litters that last with a billion sentries, and it's worse here because, like I said, NO FUCKING ROOM TO MOVE
>>334987428
>Always that one fucking scout/demoman who sits their ass on the final point just to force someone to walk by and shoot them
>>334987372
nah i only play sniper on hightower so i can fuck around 90% of the time
also i dont care about intense a match is or how serious i am about winning, if an enemy player wants to give me a hi five or conga i will drop everything 100% of the time and mess around with him
>>334987372
>Medics have to worry about snipers
fucking this
i hate that there's a not a voice command for for sniper. I've seen many heads drop from my teammates.
>>334987428
>>334987085
Prepare to get defeated.
It's like someone loaded up Hammer for the first time, put a few cube meshes and entities in the map and called it a day. Absolutely boring.
>>334987437
>Made pyro into a fun combo based class.
It also kept the flamethrower from ever being fixed or properly balanced. The amount of bugs plaguing that weapon is insane.
>Made sniper fun
Not for anybody else
>I can't think of a single complaint about this
Takes the risk out of playing medic with constant ubers and easily getting out of fights
>>334987621
That's what your microphone is for or are you some fuccboi too scared to talk to other permavirgins.
>>334987428
Steel is one of the few good CP maps though that actually has some strategy to it. It's also one of the few competitive maps that doesn't give sniper insane sightlines.
>>334987658
I actually enjoy it for shitting around. Open enough with a good variety of different types of places to go. IMO one of the best CTF maps, though that isn't saying much.
>>334987658
>No one immediately goes engineer to camp the intelligence
>It gets stolen 3 times by enemy scouts
>Someone actually thought this was good and that forcing one unlucky person to babysit the intelligence was fun
>>334987820
>Playing CTF
>Ever
>>334987694
>The amount of bugs plaguing that weapon is insane.
Such as?
>Not for anybody else
How is avoiding arrows not fun? It's a hell of a lot more fun than dying to some hitscan shit across the map from someone who never engaged you in any way
>Takes the risk out of playing medic with constant ubers and easily getting out of fights
You can still very easily die when ubered wtf
>>334987820
Oh sweet anon, why would the trashy sniper mains who can only sandbag Iron be forced to play engineer?
>>334987820
>playing the "watch the tv while I do nothing but hold mouse1" class isn't picked
>WHY IS THE FLAG GONE GUYS?!
It's because the class is boring and ctf is mostly a shit game mode in tf2 due to how easy it is to die and impossible it is to defend due to shit team mates.
>>334987658
>he doesn't like turbine
filthy kike detected
>>334987925
>Such as?
Flamethrower mojo
Airblast delay bug
Reflects coming out at random angles when near teammates
Reflects doing more self damage than they should
Some reflects not mini critting properly (cannonballs)
Being able to reflect projectiles that have already gone past you
Airblasts lifting people into the air even when you are above them
>How is avoiding arrows not fun?
Because snipers tend to charge up around corners so you dont see them until its too late and the hitbox used for registering it and its headshots is twice as big as heavy
>It's a hell of a lot more fun than dying to some hitscan shit across the map from someone who never engaged you in any way
Snipers have to have line of sight and the laser will usually give them away.
>You can still very easily die when ubered wtf
Only on valve pubs. When you take away random crits or play at lower player counts it becomes the best medigun hands down.
>>334988495
Oh almost forgot
>Flames going through thin walls at certain angles
>>334987725
i muted all microphone talk because the only people who use it ar idiots who troll with you. My tinnitus ain't gonna have none of that. Besides yeah i'm also a faggot who don't like to talk
Try Hitlers Jewfort
>>334988125
>play ctf with 2 buddies who also main engi
>set up our shit
>Rancho Relaxo for the whole match (we take turns for dealing with the occasional spy)
>play Genesis games on an emulator on another monitor
shits great
>>334988495
What do those have to do with the degreaser? All those issues affect the degreaser.
>Because snipers tend to charge up around corners so you dont see them until its too late
Dying to this is less fun than an arrow
>The hitbox used for registering it and its headshots is twice as big as heavy
The hitbox is the same for huntsman and sniper.
>Only on valve pubs. When you take away random crits or play at lower player counts it becomes the best medigun hands down.
Disagree. A scout and a soldier can easily take out a medic that's popped uber with QF, but that's the risk you take.
>>334989261
>The hitbox is the same for huntsman and sniper.
Are you legitimately retarded?
>>334987241
>Hightower
>Not best map
Pleb taste
>>334987252
>Degreaser
I agree. The "lol! Instant 100 damage combo" is extremely annoying.
>Huntsman
Easy to deal with and is usually only used by shitters. I find it harmless enough
>Quick fix
If they needed the uber build rate to that of the Kritzkrieg I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's good for quickly healing up the whiners and pocketing scouts is so much fun
>>334988726
I am a guilty mic spammer. Horse sounds and WTF quack like a duck are my favorites
>>334972813
No, and even so it's still leagues better than tf2 will ever be. QL is a great game and the last bastion of arena fps. UT4 a shit
>>334989418
The arrow has a big hurtbox, but the hitbox is exactly the same for each character. If you think otherwise, the only retard here is you.
>>334989551
QL is dead. Only autists play it these days.
>>334989586
>but the hitbox is exactly the same for each character.
It isn't, huntsman uses collision hulls. Same as explosives.
>>334989261
>What do those have to do with the degreaser? All those issues affect the degreaser.
Because when comboing and axtinguisher became the meta everyone forgot about them. Flamethrower mojo isn't that big a deal if you're just shotgunning people.
>Dying to this is less fun than an arrow
That's exactly what I mean, snipers just peek corners with fully charged arrows and the hitbox is so big you don't need to aim to hit something.
>The hitbox is the same for huntsman and sniper.
>>334989825
>A scout and a soldier can easily take out a medic that's popped uber with QF, but that's the risk you take.
Scout and soldier would both have to be extremely close to do so and not miss. Both do around 100 and megaheal does around 100hp/s so you would need to land a perfect rocket and meatshot twice.
>>334989034
>watch a game while playing another game
I played with /v/ several times on the /v/ server. The most annoying cunts showed up, getting in screaming arguments about how the other one was bad, pyro mains, heavy mains, everyone sucked at DM (except me)
and we played on this god awful map from that one mac song
>>334992612
whats the /v/ server IP?
>>334992612
>everyone sucked at DM (except me)
you played scout for 2 minutes then sat in spawn afk for the rest of the game
fuck off kony
>>334992846
74.91.121.141:27015
rage
>>334993163
it's empty and I'm all alone
>>334993357
The server only fills at certain times.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/vfortress2#events
>>334993429
why not right now?
>>334972321
Use an aimbot and find your entertainment from all the bronies and furfags that throw an autistic fit.
>>334993527
>12pm
>>334972321
community servers are the way to go because 90% of every pub experience is stacked teams and literal retards.
Valve hates working in tf2. they don't even test their updates before releasing them and every time they try to fix a bug they end up creating 3 in its place. It took FOUR YEARS for them to fix the LnL model clipping with the ironsights.
>>334978981
this
>>334972321
>>334972472
first post best post
best bet would be to join the TF2Classic Steam Group, download the TF2 Classic mod and then play when they have community events.
>>334994047
>TF2 but with less guns and shittier maps
no thanks
>>334988138
>hour long stalemates
>big open mid with two chokey hallways and an airduct enemy players are forced to bottleneck through
>actually playing ctf
