>Capcom makes a better Legend of Zelda than Nintendo
>IntSys makes a better Mario than Nintendo
>Namco makes a better Star Fox than Nintendo
>Retro makes a better Metroid than Nintendo
>Square makes a better Mario than Nintendo
>Platinum makes better Metal Gear than Kojima
>Leaving out the only right one about Sega making a better F-Zero than Nintendo
>>334941334
Came to post this.
>Canadians make a better Punch-Out!! than Nintendo
>>334941334
I'd say Capcom isn't wrong either, the Oracle games are masterpieces.
>SEGA makes a better F-Zero than Nintendo
>>334940664
Retro is Nintendo.
>>334940664
>Koei-Tecmo designs better looking Zelda characters than Nintendo
>>334940664
>Retro makes a better Metroid than Nintendo
No, no.
>a single guy in his basement all by himself makes a better Metroid than Nintendo
Why does Nintendo even try???
>>334941536
By that logic Bioware is EA
And Platinum is Nintendo
>>334941583
Pfft. Axiom Verge is going to be DESTROYED by the community when it actually comes out. It takes way too many ideas from Super Metroid to be taken seriously by real fans.
>>334940664
>Capcom makes a better Legend of Zelda
but anon, that's wrong
>>334941687
Well yes, Bioware is EA.
No, Platinum is not owned by Nintendo.
Retro is a division of Nintendo. They are a first party developer same as Nintendo EAD. They are Nintendo.
Assault would have been good if there were no on foot sections
Also TTYD and all the M&L games > Mario RPG
>>334940664
And the best resident evil was game cube exclusive
And
Mega man
>>334941743
I think he's talking about AM2R.
>>334941571
Character design is kinda their thing. I mean, the musou gameplay is nothing to write home about.
>>334941743
It's been out for over half a year, bro. And it's the best Metroid game since Super.
>>334941832
This. I think A Link Between Worlds was my favorite 2D Zelda (and possibly my favorite in general). It could just be that the gameboy's shitty, dark, small screen used to give me headaches though. That reduced the enjoyment factor by a lot
>>334941450
They're pieces, all right.
>>334941636
They are out of touch with the times - thinking the games they've made in the past are timeless masterpieces and all future games need to be modeled after them.
>>334940664
Ocarina of Time
Mario 64
Star Fox 64
Super Metroid
You were saying, you little stupid fucking moron?
>Comparing Mario spin offs to the mainline games
>>334942160
Delete this
>>334940664
>>Capcom makes a better Legend of Zelda than Nintendo
God no, oracles and minish cap are complete shig, they only surpass SS
>>IntSys makes a better Mario than Nintendo
They make rpgs, not even comparable. They're nintendo too
>>Namco makes a better Star Fox than Nintendo
What
>>Retro makes a better Metroid than Nintendo
True for sure, but they are nintendo
>>Square makes a better Mario than Nintendo
Mario rpg? Shit compared PM 1 and 2 and M&L
Next
>>334942223
>Star Fox 64
It's a 5/10 game
>>334940664
>Namco makes a better Star Fox than Nintendo
No
>le oracle games are good
When will this fucking meme end? I can't wait for these nostalgiafags to fuck off. Oracle games were fucking horrid despite taking assets from LA
>>334942125
2D zeldas (except for LBW which is possibly the best in the series) in general kind of suck
>>334942332
And it's still better than any other released Star Fox game, time for Star Fox fans to realise that majority of the games in the series are fucking terrible.
This just proves nintendo needs to let 3rd parties make their games now since their best in still in the 90's.
>>334940664
Intelligent Systems and Retro Studios are basically Nintendo though.
>>334941450
This guy knows what good games are.
>>334942541
>SMM
>Splatoon
>Kirby
I don't know, they're still producing some pretty good stuff. Splatoon and SMM are easily the best games they've produced since the Gamecube
>>334942608
>yfw HAL makes a better Kirby than Nintendo
Nintendo sells nostalgia and people buy it.
>>334940664
>No
>Yes
>No
>No
>No
>>334941334
>Yes
>Assault is good
WHEN WILL THIS MEME END?
>>334941687
SIR
EXCUSE ME
SIR
Video games are not literally made by their parent companies when they're as big as Nintendo, EA, or Activision. They own a bunch of other studios that make games for them (Retro making Metroid Prime). Or commission developers not owned by them to make games for them (Platinum making W101).
>>334942608
I don't think IntSys is officially owned by Nintendo but they may as well be.
My Fellow Nintenbros
Wake Up.
We lost SFZ, that very thought still fucking burns me as I write this. But Understand this, We Got Five, count with Me One (Mario and sonic) Two (Book of Unwritten tales) Three(Slain) Four (Kirby: PR) And Five (#FE) games coming.
And Guess what?
We sweep through that, and get as small of a lost as we can in Slain, We Will not only make up what we lost in SFZ, we will have cut into sonys lead.
This is war, My brothers and Sisters, and wars are not won by one battle, one moment. We will lose battles, we will lose games.... but we will win the war.
This Campaign is focused on one thing, and one thing only, Fixing Vidya. Fixing the Corrupt journalist, Fixing /v/, making the REAL games, Our Consoles. And we have to work hard for it.
GIANT BOMB and the DNC have written us of as a Insurgency. Damn Right we are an Insurgency, We are an Insurgency fighting for the future of our children, our families, our very way of life. Corporates like Goldman Sachs, and the Microsoft want to keep us down. And we are down, right now.
What matters is this.....Will we stay down, let the world Die around us, because we lost by a little bit in Star Fox Zero. We were no matter what going to lose SFZ, I wish it wasn't that way but the DNC and Gabe's foothold on the west is strong.
We Have to Stand, to give this goddamn world a fighting chance, Steam won't change Anything, Sony will make it even Worse. We have to win this or Our very way of Life is Gone, and I am not being Dramatic. Gaben wouldn't dare change a thing to keep his Pals in Wall Street Happy, and Sonyggers will Accelerate us into another War. We Let that happen we won't have another Chance, there isn't another 4 years, there isn't a "Next Time" There is only Now
>>334943156
tl;dr
>>334943156
I...
What????
>>334941990
TTYD had a bunch of crappy paper mechanics and backtracking that slowed down the game. SMRPG only had jumping, and it used it in unique and interesting ways.
Pit of 100 Trials was a 3-hour samey slog.
TTYD has decent writing and atmosphere, but SMRPG was the complete package and pales even to Superstar Saga, which has the best combat by far
>>334942872
>A literal builder game
No
>Splatoon
No
>Kirby
Hal is 2nd party not EAD
1 and a half of a game over 4+ years compared to the gems that they have made in past systems isn't good anon, just shows they don't got it.
Pikmin 1 and 2
Animal crossing
Mario sunshine
Luigi's Mansion
And im not even done, there's more in house that was actually good. Now they can barely churn out anything, and if they do... it just feels shallow.
>>334940664
>>Square makes a better Mario than Nintendo
Spotted the Genofag.
>>334943156
I sure hope that you copy pasted that whole spiel because I really don't see why you would waste any amount of time writing something like that
>>334940664
>Capcom makes a better Legend of Zelda than Nintendo
Name pls, i need something to waste time right now
>>334942223
I disagree but I don't want to start a Prime vs Super to de-rail this thread with
>>334942928
When has HAL NOT made a Kirby game?
>>334943441
Oracle of Season/Ages
>>334943441
Link's Awakening, the Oracle games and Minish Cap.
>>334940664
>Capcom makes a better Legend of Zelda than Nintendo
Minish Cap fags really need to fuck off already. The Oracle games were great, but they're not on par with any of the 2D Nintendo made Zeldas, particularly ALBW, LttP & LA.
Also, I totally called /v/ pretending Assault was good once SFZ comes out. It's cool to be contrarian.
>>334943156
Where'd you find this? Is this in the user reviews? I love how autistic people randomly capitalize some words.
>We Have to Stand
>Our very way of Life is Gone
You can't make this shit up.
>>334943792
But people always defended assault before SFZ ever came out
>>334943734
Link's Awakening was not Capcom
>>334942068
AM2R suffers from trying to recreate the atmosphere from ZM when it should have gone with the gritty darkness from Super. Other than that, it's pretty good
>>334943792
The Oracle games had objectively superior gameplay to LA. However they didn't have great music, or Marin. The minor loss of atmosphere does not make Seasons/Ages inferior to LA. And I played LA first.
>>334943734
Source for LA? Everything I've read says it was EAD.
>>334944146
Shit, I forgot. Ages/Seasons having the same engine got me mixed up.
>>334941832
What game is this referring to?
>>334944276
>The Oracle games had objectively superior gameplay to LA
>Oversized rooms
>Tedious time/season changes make the world map more of a pain
Naw son. I played the Oracles first. LA was way better.
>>334943425
>>334943990
Bernie supporters when they lost new york
>Oracles better than Link's Awakening
Kirr yourserf
>>334940664
>one man makes a better Earthbound than Nintendo
>>334941832
Okami is miles better than any Zelda game ever
>>334946367
Undertale?
>>334946471
mother 4 fám
>>334940664
>Capcom makes a better Legend of Zelda than Nintendo
I love the Oracle games and Minish Cap, but I would never say that they're better than Ocarina of Tim Allen or Major Tom's Mask.
>IntSys makes a better Mario than Nintendo
None of the Paper Mario games are better than Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Bros. 3 or Super Mario World.
>Namco makes a better Star Fox than Nintendo
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>Retro makes a better Metroid than Nintendo
Super Metroid outclasses all of the Prime games.
>Square makes a better Mario than Nintendo
Super Mario RPG is a shit game that people only like because of nostalgia, and Geno will never be in Smash.
>>334946776
That's made by a team of people. And It looks like shit.
>>334947416
>Super Metroid outclasses all of the Prime games
I'm glad someone said it.
>>334940664
>Capcom makes a better Legend of Zelda than Nintendo
Stopped reading there.
>>334941450
>masterpieces
A lot of other Zelda games are better than the Oracle games. Link's Awakening for example.
>>334940664
>Namco makes a better Star Fox than Nintendo
Nice bait fambam.
>>334945961
You forgot something.
>no invincibility frames
I no understandu
You no rike new games?
>star fox assault
>good
nice meme
>>334940664
>Capcom makes a better legend of Zelda
Minish Cap was ass, anon.
>>334948386
At least it was better than ALTTP.
>>334941308
Yup
>>334948386
Yeah, but the Oracle games are by far the best 2d zeldas
>>334941334
This is the only correct post.
>>334947625
It looks alright, the main issue is it's never ever coming out.
>>334941308
Sure, if you have ADHD.
>>334941636
I ask myself the same thing whenever I see a namefag.
>>334942541
Nah, the WiiU and 3ds games generally beat out the rest of the franchises' previous leaders. 3D World, NSMBU, Smash 4, Pikmin 3 (debatable), Mario Kart 8, New Leaf, and Tropical Freeze are all the top of their series. Plus you've got Uprising and Splatoon and an amazing refresh of an old series, and a fantastic new IP.
But you tried.
>>334943319
>it just feels shallow.
That's literally all you anti-Nintendo dudes can say. Ever. It's a load of shit and you can't provide any support for it, which is why it's the best you can muster.
Nintendo sucks dick nowadays, this isn't new news.
>>334942121
its not even as good as metroid 2 dude calm the fuck down.
>>334949515
get good
>>334942451
YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH YOU NIGGER
>>334940664
So nobody is going to point out that Miyamoto lead development for SFZ, and Platinum only did some minor consulting and provided the engine basis? That's like saying Nintendo made Hyrule Warriors because they used Zelda characters.
>>334941423
But you won't trust those same people to make Metroid. So what's your point?
>>334943273
T H I S
TTYD is overrated by gamecube kiddies who played it before PM64 and let shit like graphics and donut steel ripoff characters convince them TTYD is the superior game
>"b-but the backtracking helps build the world! a-a-and the lack of exploration keeps the story focused! chapter 3! i know it's just 20 battles one after the other b-b-but the story! and chapter 6 has the train! it's not repetitive, i swear!"
TTYDfags are literally cancer
>>334949983
>got gud
>the game is still bare bones and the combat is only deep with the bosses, who go down in less than 3 minutes
No.
>>334943319
splatoon is a much better than game than the abortion that was mario sunshine.
luigi's mansion is a short, linear, repetitive game that's ok for a launch title but has no staying power.
AC is outdone by recent games like new leaf, which nintendo themselves developed.
pikmin 3 is superior to the previous pikmin games and doesn't need to lean on homogeneous caves to stretch out gametime. it's all killer no filler.
>>334950246
>>the game is still bare bones and the combat is only deep with the bosses, who go down in less than 3 minutes
so like every other mgs game ever made
>>334943156
>Nintenbros
Instant falseflag
>>334950379
>MGS boss battles
>good
>MGS 1-3
>barebones
Ok.
>>334950479
it was incredibly barebones, I mean you have to be a retard to actually think that they're hard
>>334940664
The Oracle games were clusterfucks.
>>334941334
This
>>334950197
This.
>>334950914
Also this.
>>334950591
Difficulty is always arguable. But 2, 3 and even 4 have more content and different ways to play through the games than what Rising could ever wish for.
Don't get me wrong; Rising is good, and it'sfun.
But you're mental if you say that it is the best game the franchise has to offer.
>>334950941
>>334951017
This tbqh.
>>334940664
>Capcom makes a better Legend of Zelda than Nintendo
OoT, Link's Awakening, andZelda 2are better than the Oracle games. Everything except the DS Zeldas are better than Minish Cap
>IntSys makes a better Mario than Nintendo
Hell no. They make some of the worst Marios by far.
>Namco makes a better Star Fox than Nintendo
64 is still the best Star Fox, and even that was mediocre. Star Fox was never good.
>Retro makes a better Metroid than Nintendo
Prime 1 is tied with Super as the best. Prime 3 and especially Prime 2 weren't nearly as good. Fusion and Zero Mission are far better than the Prime sequels.
>Square makes a better Mario than Nintendo
SMRPG was fantastic, but it's not really comparable to the regular (and superior) Mario games.
>>334941308
>Platinum makes better Metal Gear than Kojima
Rising is decent, but it's every bit as rushed as TPP and ranks below even Peace Walker. It's better than Portable Ops at least, so I'll give you that.
>>334942325
> all this wrong and shit taste
>>334948913
Link's Awakening was better. Adventure of Link was also better. Oracle games beat ALttP though.
>>334941743
Axiom verge has been out for a while retard.
>>334943792
Assault was always good, shit taste faggot.
Though only recently did I realize I was arguing against nintendrone 64fags.
>>334944276
>However they didn't have great music
The Oracle games have plenty of flaws as >>334945961 and >>334948060 have pointed out, but the music isn't one of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhGS79bPPCI
>Sony shits upset that have to buy a new playstation
>start lashing out at the newest nintnedo release
business as usual around here.
>>334940664
You forgot
>ChunSoft and Genius Sonority make better Pokemon games than Gamefreak, who is mostly Nintendo
>>334947861
Only thing that has over the Oracle games is the story.
>>334952167
>have to
What changed? Does the 4.5 have exclusive games now?
>>334940664
>Platinum makes a shittier Star Fox than Nintendo
Does this mean we can finally stop the "Platinum make muh game" meme?
>>334952289
and gameplay and dungeon design.
>>334942435
Seasons was acceptable. Ages, on the other hand, was pure shit and had some of the worst dungeons, items, and minigames in the series. Jabu's Belly was fucking trash in that game.
>>334940664
>Namco makes a better Star Fox than Nintendo
Nostalgia is a powerful drug. Besides the occasional Airwing stage the on foot sections are clunky as fuck and the Landmaster missions are just "shoot x amount of things along this big empty and boring arena"
Which wouldn't be so bad if it was like 60% of the game, more than the airwings. It's easy to say it's better when you haven't gone back to replay it.
>>334952193
>Chunsoft
Entirely different style that's in their wheelhouse
>GS
Boooooooo, your opinion sucks
>>334951680
No Star Fox was ever good, and Assault was especially bad. The only people defending it are shitters that grew up with the Gamecube.
>>334952167
I play primarily on my PS4 and I've been defending Nintendo the entire thread.
>>334940664
>Namco makes a better Star Fox than Nintendo
oh i am laffin
>>334940664
Nintendo is better at managing IPs than they are at actually making games with them.
>>334943051
>Assault is bad
When will this meme end?
>>334940664
>Nintendo made a better Metroid than Nintendo
The Hell this slut saying
>>334944437
minish cap
>>334940664
Is Retro not a Nintendo developer?
>>334952193
To be fair, fucking Compile Heart could make a better Pokemon than Gamefreak, so that's not saying much.
I adore the games, but the mainseries is probably the biggest waste of potential in video games. Pokemon could be so much better than it already is.
>>334953950
>Nintendo is good at something
Oh wow
>>334955270
>IntSys makes a better Mario than Nintendo
>Retro makes a better Metroid than Nintendo
>Nintendo makes better games than Nintendo
>>334956349
Didn't meant to quote
>>334941450
>last good 2D Zeldas were made by Capcom 15 years ago
JUST
>>334952737
Nah, Star Fox Zero is pretty good.
>>334951130
>Fusion
This game is critically underrated in my opinion. Nobody ever mentions it, and some people outright hate it. The treatment Adam got with Other M is a damn shame though.
And you can't really call MGR bad. It's still stellar, but that's nothing too special when the main installments of the whole series are all amazing. And it doesn't fit in with the rest at all. Can't argue against dat soundtrack though
>>334952193
Mystery Dungeon 2 was great. It made me feel like a giddy kid again. So heartwarming thinking about it
When the fuck did another company make a better Metroid. Why shit post when it's so obvious?
>>334952063
It's good, but its no Ballad of the Wind Fish. LA's whole quest is based around a song, which evolves as you acquire more instruments.
The Orcale games have more music than should ever fit on a cartridge, and its pretty good, but it falls short of LA's precedent.
>>334944269
Or better yet, just build up on the desolate atmosphere M2 had. Much of it was probably because of the simplistic music and no backgrounds, but wouldn't hurt to try.
>>334941308
>Rising was a much better revenge take than MGSV.
>>334941334
X is just as good as GX. GX just has more content
>>334941450
Minish Cap > Oracle shit
>>334940664
>IntSys makes a better Mario than Nintendo
What?
>Namco makes a better Star Fox than Nintendo
Hahaha, no fucking way.
"Retro Studios, Inc. is an American first-party video game developer and division of Nintendo based in Austin, Texas."
Straight from wikipedia, they're literally Nintendo by definition.
>>334942608
>>334942928
>>334943054
IntSys is a second party, just like Hal.
>neo-/ v/ is thrash talking about Oracles games and praising LBW.
I need to step down
>>334959763
The Oracles are great, but LA is better.
>>334940664
>Sony makes a better Nintendo
>>334940664
>>334941308
>>334941334
Spoonfeed me these games, retards
>>334959923
Its all subjective. To me LBW is a good game but by far the worst 2d Zelda,not a bsd thing but it can't compare to all of themwell maybe Minish Cap
>>334940664
Square enix makes better mario spin offs than nintendo
>>334960291
OP is shitposting, but the other anons were speaking of F-Zero GX, and Metal Gear Rising.
>>334943526
Smash
>>334960375
I wasn't praising LBW. It's not even as good as ALttP and the renting system was only good on paper. At the end of the day all Zelda games are good anyway. MC is just kinda bland. Other than the hat dude, nothing is too memorable in that game.
>Capcom makes a better Castlevania then Konami
>>334960771
To be fair, LBW does have a lot going for it.
The difficulty wasn't up to par due to being able to simply choose where you go, but it did have a very seamless way of integrating the puzzles and the environment. The ost and gameplay was as good as ever, too.
>All this shit taste trying to disprove OP
>>334958754
>nobody mentions
Never been to /v/ Metroid threadsthe ones that aren't Other M or Super vs Prime shitpostathons? They always have tons of people proclaiming Fusion as their favourite.
>>334960771
ALttP>=LA>OoA/S>4SA>LBW>MC>4S>Shit>TH
>>334961407
I can confirm
>>334961428
>Triforce heroes even on there
Its not a 2D zelda.
>>334950362
>splatoon is a much better than game than the abortion that was mario sunshine
I don't agree with that at all, but I also don't know how you could even compare them, they're completely different games. Yes, I know that paint exists in both games,that doesn't make them similar, one is a 4v4 3rd person shooter, the other is an open world 3D platforformer/collectathon.
>>334960673
This nigga
>>334961518
I refuse to acknowledge that abortion as a 3D Zelda.
>>334961518
>a Zelda game
>in 2D
>not a 2D zelda
Ok.
>>334947416
>Super Mario RPG is a shit game that people only like because of nostalgia
But that's wrong you fucking idiot.
>>334943526Pokemon Snap
>>334941450
i played them only recently after just playing LA, and they feel like fanmade romhacks with LA assets
they're not that good
>>334951130
Fusion and ZM are shit compared to Prime 2. Fusion and Prime 3 I would say are on the same level. ZM is dead last.
>>334961874Snap 2 NEVER EVER
>>334961752
Its not in 2D. if you played the game, you'd know that. Its like PH/ST where the camera fixes itself depending on the situation. its usually behind you.
>>334952289
and you can thank Koizumi for that.
http://www.wired.com/2007/12/interview-super/
>YK: My first assignment was to do the art and layout and eventually the writing for the manual for The Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past. What was funny was that at the time, it didn’t seem like they’d really figured out what most of the game elements meant. So it was up to me to come up with story and things while I was working on the manual. So, for example, the design of the goddesses as well as the star sign associated with them.
>WN: Have you seen things change since then, where the story is now coming from the game rather than the instruction manual?
>YK: The situation is totally different now. There are so many people with so many different job titles. But back then, the people who wrote the manuals often became the people who came up with most of the backstory for the entire game. The first real game work that I did was on Link’s Awakening. But at the same time, I came in to write the manual, as I did on the previous game. But they had nothing in place. So I ended up making an entire story to go along with the game. The dream, the island, that was all mine.
>And so that was my first experience doing the kind of work that we would now call "event design." But there were not too many people at the time with expertise in that area, so I really had free reign to do what I wanted...
>so long as I didn’t make Miyamoto angry.
>>334952803
>>334952193
Anybody could make a better Pokemon, except maybe Ubisoft.
>>334959369
>the Gameboy Advance was my first handheld
>>334946447
Found the faggot. Okami was subpar and so is every wolf link moment in tp
>>334960771
>>334961428
ALttP is the most overrated Zelda by far. The only 2D Zeldas it is better than are the original and Phantom Hourglass.
>HAL made a better smash than namco
>>334962168
I emphasize that last bit because, as an example, the one time Koizumi DID make Miyamoto angry (adding lore to Galaxy 1)....
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2009/06/miyamoto_borking_super_mario_galaxy_2s_story
>Miyamoto: Mr. Koizumi is the type of person who, whenever we’re working on a new Mario game, he always wants to bring more story elements into it, as he did with Super Mario Galaxy. But in talking with him this time, he agrees and feels that with Galaxy 2, there won’t be a need for as deep of a story.
>'Koizumi could just be saying that, of course, because he's continually tried to sneak story elements into Mario and Zelda games, and who's to say he'll actually stop? He's responsible for the dream-plot of Link's Awakening, the original Galaxy's storybook hub and the little nuggets of story you can gleam from talking to people in Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask.'
>“Well, I put a stop to that at the beginning, this time,” Miyamoto said, and for emphasis punched the air with his fist.
>>334952193
>Gamefreak
>mostly Nintendo
Are you retarded?That said they've only made it better in terms of graphics, without the world and ability to capture pokemon they were a notch below because they lacked the important features of the game.Story in Colosseum was top notch
>>334962086
Prime 2 is mediocre and only better than Other M and Prime Hunters. It's the definition of a 5/10 game.
>>334962734
Not him but go fuck yourself.
Prime 2 was the pinnacle of Prime games. The one part that lets it down is the key hunt and Prime 1 had it worseI don't remember if 3 had it.
>>334962548
>PH
>Good
Foe fucks sake I hope you're bating because I fell, hell I can give you that ALttP is overrated but fucking PH better than anything? Good lord I'm outta this thread there's so much shit taste here.
>>334962938
1 also had better beam types, beam-missile combos, and no ammo system.
3 had fuel cells you could pick up as you went along which you'd eventually need to explore the gfs valhalla
>/v/ hates the Oracles now
What the FUCK happened?
>>334962938
Not him, but Prime 2 was awful and the worst Prime game by far.
>>334963026
Re-read my post. I wasn't praising Phantom Hourglass at all. I said ALttP is only better than PH and Zelda 1. The implication being that Zelda 1 and PH are the weakest 2D games in the series.
>>334940664
>Retro makes a better Metroid than Nintendo
Retro IS Nintendo retard
>>334963230
1 also had better level design, better environments period, and better enemies and enemy variety. And better music. And better bosses. And really just better everything.
>>334963510
I wholly disagree with every point except beams. Prime 2 had better environments, challenging bosses, better music, and was overall an improvement on everything in Prime except the ammo thing.
>>334940664
>Namco makes a better Star Fox than Nintendo
FUCKING THIS, we need Star Fox Assault 2 with online 12-player multiplayer.
>>334963943
2 also had a better explanation for you lost all your shit, as it was fun fighting enemies utilising you power ups,apart from the Boost Guardian.
I think the map worked better in 1 though as it was easier to use it to see where you were going
>>334963230
>1 also had better beam types
Yeah no, they were just the usual Metroid staples but in 3D.
>beam-missile combos
Wavebuster and Flamethrower were essentially the same thing
Ice Spreader was slow as shit.
Darkburst was good for rooms with multiple enemies because of the suction aspect.
Sunburst was great in Dark Aether.
Then there was the Sonic Boom.
> and no ammo system.
Yeah because a little forethought and not allowing you to abuse the best weapons is bad.
>>334963510
Boy you have the worst taste, not only were the environments better in Prime 2 right down to the small details, there was a wider variety of enemies along with having a greater challenge to them, the bosses were also much more imposing and complex, just compare Quadraxis to the Omega Pirate.
>>334964324
3 had better scenery
And has best bro
>Square makes a better Mario than Nintendo
what
>Namco makes a better Star Fox than Nintendo
LOLOLOLOL
>>IntSys makes a better Mario than Nintendo
they never made a platformer
>>334964859
I hope you meanRundas
>>334963943
>>334964646
Prime 2 had nothing over Prime 1. I can't even imagine how your taste got as shitty as it is. The entire dark world shit was awful, the enemies were bland, the level design was boring and repetitive, and the bosses were poorly designed. Prime 2 was trash.
>>334963268
Too hard for the neo /v/ crowd, considering how they praise Awakening which was really easy Oracles
>>334965382
I love the Oracle games, but they really weren't that difficult. Link's Awakening was just better designed and was more memorable. All three were stellar though.
GameCube kiddies are the biggest cancer on /v/
>TTYDfags
>TPfags
>Assaultfags
>Meleefags
>Prime 2fags
>Sunshinefags
>by extension, Hoennfags
Maybe if this thread were talking more about the merits of legitimately great third party developed games like SMRPG, Oracles, or F-Zero GX then it wouldn't be such a mess, but nope, let's have the 5000th mindless GameCube nostalgia circlejerk thread
>334965382
Awakening has always gotten praise here you dumbshit redditor
>>334965304
>Prime 2 had nothing over Prime 1.
Well aside from
>enemy design
>environments
>level design
>power ups
>story
>difficulty
>Navigation
>>334965760
Every single one of those were better in Prime 1. And by a lot. Prime 2 isn't even in the same ballpark. If it weren't for Other M Prime 2 would be the worst Metroid game.
So I guess you can blame Intelligent Systems for DLC, rather than complaining about Nintendo doing it. Because, after all, according to you they're not affiliated in any way and everything is done by these other companies.
>>334943792
>Also, I totally called /v/ pretending Assault was good once SFZ comes out. It's cool to be contrarian.
Star Fox officially has its own Zelda effect now. Every game preceding the last is now God tier, while the current one is shit.
>>334965726
That's the joke, Neo /v/ can't even handle simple games like the Oracles, All three were amazing but the Oracles feel like legit Zelda games more where as Awakening felt like it was the outsourced game.
>>334966849
Shouldn't people be saying Command was good now Zelda is out?
Also Assaults was full of ups and downs
>>334943792
Assault got its hate lessened once command happen. When people were done with that game, they admitted they misjudged Assault
>>334965954
>Every single one of those were better in Prime 1.
Not really, they were really safe and boring because it was the first 3D entry to the series.
Prime 2 bumped them up several levels, giving the two worlds different enemies as well as dark world variants of light world enemies.
Drastically changed things up with the level design in the light and dark worlds.
Power ups were also visually amazing as opposed to 3D variants of older weapons like the ice, wave and an oddly miscolored plasma beam.
It also translated the screw attack into 3D.
As for the story
>instead of just having Samus chase after space pirates for some unknown reason she's hired for a rescue mission
>instead she finds all of the marines dead or reanimated and violent, a clone of herself and a creatures who stole her abilities as opposed to having them knocked out of her
The bosses were considerably harder ones that come to mind are Chykka, Boost Guardian, Amorbis. All were more difficult than their placement counterparts in MP1.
The navigation also wasn't obtuse and there were several quick shortcuts you could find to other areas.
>>334967454
>Mentions hard bosses
>Doesn't mention the Spider Guardian or Dark Alpha Blogg
>>334965954
Now you're just being dramatic. There's still Fusion, which ruined the formula. Even considering some of MP2's flaws, it's a decent, serviceable Metroid game. Even the ones that weren't so popular like Metroid 2 are good titles.
The only ones that really truly can be said to butcher the formula are Other M and Fusion.
>>334966975
Yeah I guess you're right. Honestly I don't hate Assault. In fact I quite like it.
>>334967624
Spider wasn't that hard.
Alpha Blogg can go fuck itself with that shit.
>>334967641
Fusion ruined nothing the fuck are you talking about ?
>>334967920
He's referring to the fact that it was linear and had a bit more story to it.
Not ruining aspects but certainly a changer.
SMB3 is the best Mario game
The Minish Cap is the best Zelda game
Star Fox 64 is the best Star Fox game
Donkey Kong 64 is the best DK game
Fusion is the best Metroid game
Deal with it.
>>334967758
Apparoid homeworld was annoying when you'd be in the middle of some shit, and Krystal or Falco would need help.
No Bill in Katina, no Katt in general
Also no Leon or Panther playable in Multiplayer along with no bots so you can actually unlock Zoness.
But there were some good bits, especially the track that plays when Peppycrashes the Great Fox
>>334968062
Only the first one is right
>>334968062
>Donkey Kong 64 is the best DK game
>Fusion
Eat shit nignog
>>334968102
Kind of weird how they basically killed everyone off and then brought them back. It's like, they wanted to create drama but have no consequences in the end.
>>334968226
>le Fusion is a bad Metroid meme
>implying you even played DK 64
>>334968316
Star Wolf's three were never confirmed dead, and I doubt Ninty would have let them kill off Peppy.
It is weird that Andrew and Pigma return in Command then, also that they started calling him Oikonny instead
>>334968494
Oh, I forgot that Andrew returned in Command.
>>334967641
Fusion was great though. If you want to talk about a handheld Metroid that actually did ruin the formula then talk about Prime Hunters, which is even worse than Other M.
>>334968062
Yes.
Not even close.
Yes, but that's not saying much.
No way.
It's tied with Super and Prime 1 for the best IMO.
>>334940664
Minish Cap was comfy. But offered nothing in terms of exploration, combat, puzzle or challenge. It was a small, by-the-numbers, casual affair.
Paper Mario is another casual game, which could only boast it's writing. Which is also questionable. And it's quality has been dropping off for years.
Metroid Prime was largely overseen by Japanese staff. And there are written accounts that claim Miyamoto was largely responsible for whipping the team into shape, when they were failing.
Super Mario RPG Legend of the Seven stars, hasn't be relevant in over 20 years.
>>334940664
Nintendo had a backlash during the Wii U when they realised that other companies are better at their own IP's than they are. And then it bit them in the butt when they had to beg Platinum to make their Star Fox.
>>334968724
For the longest I didn't think Okinny was Andrew
>>334969531
Really now, even after the "UNCLE ANDROOOOOOS"
>>334968062
>>334968156
>>334969232
>SMB3 is the best Mario game
Debatable. As cookie-cutter as new games have become, they're ultimately still refined versions of SMB3.
>>334969631
>>334969531
He literally says
>I am the one and only true heir to Emperor Andross. The New Emperor: Andrew Oikonny
Which makes me wonder where Dash fits in, maybe he's an illegitimate child he had with Candy Kong or some shit
>>334969857
Level design in 3 is better than any of the new 2D games. And this is coming from someone who greatly enjoyed NSMB Wii and NSMBU (handheld games were mediocre though).
