He is the hardest boss in dark souls 3
But he is not hard
Stop the memes
Smough and Ornistein were hard
Orphan of kos and ludwig were hard
merge your fucking shit threads
>>334922380
hello faggot
>>334922334
>Smough and Ornistein were hard
Nice meme. S&O were hard before they got nerfed to shit because babies were crying.
And they never were particularly hard if you go for Smalls first.
Lost of bosses in DS3 push your shit harder than anything in DS1.
>>334922512
>Lost of bosses in DS3 push your shit harder than anything in DS1.
ah no
the only challenge i had were pontif which i beated 6th try
and nameless king that i beated 15th time
all the others were one shot or 2 tries at most
>>334922512
When did they nerf O&S?
>>334922646
>m-m-uh nostalgia
Fuck off. The reason you think DS3 is easier is because you have experience with mechanics, same as DS1 could feel easier than DeS if you had experience with that.
DS3 is by far the most challenging game in teh series so far, you nostalgia won't change that. DS1 feels like a joke after DS3, including DLC.
>>334922695
In first patches, when O also had broken hitbox.
>>334923075
no its not
bloodborne is the hardest
then its ds1
then demons souls
you are just shit at the game
Ludwig was only hard cause he had broken hitboxes. Smough and Ornstein are overrated bosses, if you just take your time and don't go guns a blazin then they're easy. Orphans pretty tough though
>>334923294
>Ludwig was only hard cause he had broken hitboxes
Git Gud DSP
whats next? you gonna blame the camera?
>>334923224
>Bloodborne is the hardest
>you can steal health from enemies and farm blood vials
>hard
>>334923465
>>you can steal health from enemies and farm blood vials
you still die into 2 hits some times one
even if you had unlimited vials it doesn't matter if you use thme wrong
also play it faggot
i played all of the souls games and bloodborne
you only played dark souls
>Smough and Ornistein were hard
What?
>>334923465
Yes, Bloodborne is mechanically the most challenging Souls game
t. someone who played it
Move over, kids.
O&S are a complete joke compared to half the bosses in DS3.
Ludwig isnt as hard as everyone says once you figure out holding his left side in phase 1 lets you get so many free hits in.
Orphan is harder than Nameless though.
>>334923224
>retard not accounting for the fact that this is the 5th game with largely unchanged core mechanics
Its a shame FROM didn't account for player skill growth throughout the series.
>>334923224
>bloodborne is the hardest
No, unless you count TOH. TOH at times felt more like DS2 DLC, it's just hard for the sake of being hard no matter how stupid it is. Shark giants are a prime example.
>>334923614
oh my god this guy
impossible
this boss ruined my existance
>>334922334
Ludwig wasn't hard, you get him after like 3 deaths
Orphan of Kos is just a bullshitter though. You could be owning his ass and then naked placenta man pulls out an insanely fast attack and you're dead
>>334923689
not only the old hunters
there were tons of bosses like >>334923224
that would kick your ass way harder than dark souls 3
the old hunter is just torture
>>334923847
>Ludwig wasn't hard, you get him after like 3 deaths
faggot
I found Toguro Jr. and Toguro Sr. to be harder
>>334923548
>you have a negative opinion of Bloodborne therefore you didn't play it
when will this meme end? PS4 is one of the most common consoles pretty much EVERYONE has played Bloodborne with a friend at some point its a short fucking game. Bloodborne probably feels difficult because people didn't have a previous 3 games of experience just like how DSIII got beaten so fast this time. Facts are it isn't harder than DS1 but just forces you into a different style of play.
>>334923614
hardest boss in all of souls/bloodborne honestly
i feel like no one else even comes close
>>334924085
its not about opinion its about facts
i don't care that you are an idiot and you have a useless negative opinion about bloodborne
thats your problem not bloodborne's
>>334923720
>>334924141
I think Laurence andthe Cainhurst Croware probably the most difficult things to have ever come out of the series, honestly.
>>334924141
this
laurence is just in a whole other level
DaS3 DLC will have to out-do the main game several times over to match the power of this nigger.Check my (9)
>>334924356
this is the most aggresive boss( in second form only) in the whole souls francise
>>334924232
>Cainhurst Crow
as far as non bosses go, 2fish in BB DLC was always a nightmare for me as well
>>334923075
>DS3 is by far the most challenging game in teh series so far,
Not at all.
>>334922334
>Smough and Ornistein were hard
>Orphan of kos and ludwig were hard
Those guys were all doable. Nameless king and lord of cinder are fucking impossible for me. Maybe I really fucked up my build this time. First time playing a pure dex build.
>>334924460
>in second form only
>implying the first phase doesn't murder fags left and right
>>334924523
those things are scary
especially the dash attack
worse than ebrietas
>>334924460
Nah, the Abhorrent Beast is oh so much worse than OoK.
>>334922334
I can't beat the last boss for the fucking life of me, that spear form is just so hard to predict.
>>334924178
a negative opinion is a part of thinking critically about something which results in improvement. Obviously Bloodborne offers just the right level of stimulation for your limited intellect and so you'll respond automatically with hostility like a base animal. But that's your problem not Bloodbornes' which has sold really well.
>>334924625
build and stat management are very important
one of the reasons these games are hard is by putting wrong stats believe it or not
when i was a noob i got my asskicked because i messed up the stats
>>334922334
LITERALLY
>>334924708
oh yes abhorent beast is also extremly aggresive an fast as fuck
>>334924775
>a negative opinion is a part of thinking critically
yeah you don't think critically
>>334924870
I could honestly never do the Abhorrent Beast legitimately, I had to cheese him with poison knives like a deadbeat.Only boss in the series I could never do properly ;_;
Quite honestly indestructible
>>334924708
>the closer he gets to the camera, the worse the framerate is
Genius boss gimmick. Bravo Miyazaki.
>>334924784
Any tips on builds for the last two bosses? I cant use anything with boss items or spells because ive used all their souls already.
>>334925030
did you try to fight him in defiled loran chalice dungeon?
impossible
>>334924784
I heard you can respec in DS3 but i never figured out how to do it
>>334925192
you need strength(30) and lots of vigor (30)
also some vitality(20) and endurance (25)
>>334925320
you can
in a hidden area
you give pale tongue for eacht ime you need to respec
Hardest boss so far.
The dragon part is bullshit. I summoned a phantom and sent him home after he killed the dragon for me.
>>334924937
Absolute plebs like best friends and strippin could do Orphan of Kos/Ludwig after 5-10 tries. Not even close to as hard as 4 kings/Ornstein/Kalameet. Open your retard eyes before making childish statements and assumptions about other people.
I just made a friend lose 60k souls because I told him there was a cool ring dropped by these rats and he went looking for it and died. I only started playing dark souls so I don't really know the value of 60k souls. He told me it was alright but he probably hates me right?
>>334925607
>Absolute plebs like best friends and strippin could do Orphan of Kos/Ludwig after 5-10 tries
you are watching e-celebs without playing the game for yourself and you think you have an opinion
get the fuck out of here retard
>>334925731
In 3? It's nothing.
>>334925731
60k is pretty much nothing unless you're at the very beginning of those games
i mean he could have played it safe and spent them too
>>334925745
wow there you go making assumptions about what people have or have not played. I brought those examples up because there's actual evidence of them doing what I claimed unlike if I said that I personally had done it. If you can't handle a reasonable discussion without jumping to childish assumption then shut the fuck up.
>Tfw everyone forgets Manus and Artorias
We haven't seen Das3 DLC yet, but I still consider Fume Knight from 2 the hardest in the series.
The only bosses who gave me issues in 3 were Dancer and Sulyvahn, both of which after fighting 3 times now feel much easier. Fume after all these years still give me trouble.
>>334925981
i always hated Manus until my SL1 playthrough and found he had absolutely no answer for a +14 light crossbow
i don't think i even took damage, i was shocked
>>334925981
manus was shit
>>334926009
Never Played DS2
Why is Fume knight considered hard? Evey video iv'e seen of him he seems to have 3 attacks and be really slow.
>>334925731
Depends on where you're at. I only get agitated over losing 2 level-ups worth of souls
But hey he's the fucking loser for dying to rats
>>334926009
I loved Fume, he was never hard to me but most of builds were like fast straight swords and a lot of rolling over blocking
As far as 2 goes, Lud and Zallen get my vote for hardest
O&S were hard. But that's because they were I think second actually challenging multi boss in the series. The first being man eaters.
Not to mention they were hype as hell.
Hardest? Maybe if we compare first playthroughs but if we're not? Probably Laurence, pontiff, or Orphan.
It's just that alot of players didn't know HOW to deal with O&S. Whereas the others are actually tough and not just requiring a different play style
>>334926206
i mean these rats apparently drop the best ring in the game I think they're pretty hard to kill. they're the ones where you have to go down a hidden ladder
>>334925981
>mfw Champion Gundyr made Artorias fight look like a girly tea party
>>334922334
kek two dlc bosses are only hard cause they are damage sponges. and rape horse isn't even tough. ya, phase 2 orphan of kosm is tough but not even as tough as some of the chalice bosses.
>>334923224
Nah you can seriously just fuck off.
The average enemy in DaS3 is far more challenging than one in DaS1. People say it is easier because they have become so used to the game mechanics and style of the Souls games. For a lot of people this is their fifth Souls game so even though they all have different styles to them you get used to the general patient approach.
But your average enemy in this game has more health and is far more aggressive than in DaS1. It is significantly harder to get by with a low health pool in DaS3 than any other Souls game except maybe Bloodborne. Almost every boss in DaS3 will three shot you at the very most and will more likely two or one shot you. They usually have huge health pools too.
I can't believe people honestly think DaS1 is harder. The Archdrake Peak is probably one of the hardest Souls areas ever if you actually fight all the enemies. I don't mean that in a good way too I think it just has shit design.
>>334926336
>Champion Gundyr
i don't know i never had problem with him
artorias kicked my ass
maybe because i fought artorias as a mage
mages are shit in these games
>>334926336
*made you look like a girly tea party
The final boss is giving me a hell of a time. When he goes faith/spear I just know I'm going to get hit a lot, but when he is magic, I know it's my time to shine and hit him back.
>>334926070
I bet Manus was pretty shocked too.
>>334926417
the averge enemy in ds3 dies with 2 hits
in bloodborne it dies with 6 hits
you are welcome
>>334926336
I got really good at parrying him.
>>334923224
nah
Blood>>Dark3>>Dark2>>Demon's>>Dark1
This is my opinion, but in fact, it's really fact.
is there some trick to killing Wolnir? I heard something in the fog made the fight easier than it normally is.
>>334926417
ds3 has some bosses that are way harder than ds1 sure
but the majority of bosses in ds1 are way harder than 3
>>334926553
>>334922334
>But he is not hard
Yes he is
Either you played with a party, are insanely good at DaS now and don't realize it, or level 200+
Regardless, he was a challenging and difficult boss. Ornstein and Smough were difficult, but could be done in half a dozen tries by most players who didn't have 3 games of experience under their belt and at a much lower level. Nameless King is the last boss in the Souls series and he gave long time veterans a good run.
he's hard if you don't spam r1 and dps him down
play the game like it's intended fuccboi and slowly go through phase 2
>>334926761
Destroy the gold bracelets and don't worry about the adds.
>>334924141
>First phase.
>"Not too bad senpai, just a Cleric Beast with some AOE fire shit."
>Second phase.
>A nonstop thrashing abyss of total bullshit lava.
NG+ and FRC chalice is where the game really shines in terms of boss fights, buy this faggot was a pain. The shit on the floor doesn't last long, but there's so much of it and he refreshes it so often the fight feels like a crapshoot.
>>334926132
not him, but my theory is he prioritizes magic users if there are multiple people and will immediately charge you and take half your life if you try to cast on him, same goes for anyone who flasks at a bad time
the great shield turtle thing doesn't work that well at least on NG+ and beyond either because he breaks your guard so easily
and his damage is just high really so you can't make many mistakes
this kind of build >>334926284 is the kind of thing that fucks him over the worst honestly
>>334926674
yeah that makes sense too
maybe i think ds1 was hard cause it was my first
if i play it again maybe i can change my mind
>>334926320
Oh you mean those giant dog things where the Aldritch Covenant thing is?
Yeah fuck those things
>>334923142
source?
>Tfw getting my as kicked by a Literal retard and a cripple
>>334926854
You don't need a party and you don't need to be level 200.
I'm shit at the game and did it at level 70ish.
>>334923224
>>334923556
>>334926674
>>334926417
If you cunts had never played a souls game then played any one of the games it'd go DaSIII>DaS1>Bloodborne>DaS2>DeS
>>334926674
>Demon's>>Dark1
You were doing so good before that. DeS is only harder than DS1 when you play with pure black tendency, if you want that challenge from DS1, might just use calamity ring and play cursed.
>>334925404
I beat him with just enough str and dex to use my weapon, and put rest into endurance and hp.
>>334926942
>that music
one of the best fights in the game
>>334926942
Take it slow and always dodge right.
>>334926972
>DS1 harder than BB
lolno
>>334926854
i killed him level 80 without summon
he is not easy offcourse he is challenging sure but i don't know i didn't have a major problem with him
>>334926951
>I'm shit at the game and did it at level 70ish.
Then you're not shit at the game, sorry anon. Or you're running some ridiculous OP newbie build I haven't heard of.
>>334927078
Same, it took me several tries and I would say he is challenging but not impossibly hard. But saying he is easy is just absurd.
>>334926972
bloodborne is the hardest
not an opinion its a fact
>>334923614
I struggled forever with Orphan of Kos, and then killed him and did some Chalice Dungeon stuff then returned to Ludwig and chopped him down I think on my second or third try. I dunno why he was so easy for me.
>ornstein and smough
>hard
Nigger i did it in three tries on my first playthrough, i died more to the fucking capra demon
>>334926972
DaS1 plays like shit compared to DeS, BB, and DaS3.
>>334927172
no? I never done a build I usually just do a random mix of str and dex with vit and endurance. I used a chaos blade and shield when my other weapon was to slow for me.
>>334927232
DeS plays like shit too
>>334927189
My only fighting with Orphan was on NG+ cause I already had the platinum and didn't want to re-level a character to fight him normally. It took me 40 attempts.
>tfw still haven't beat Laurence
>Can't ever find summons for him
>I will never beat Laurence
>>334927172
i didn't say he was easy i said he is not hard
hard means the player gets frustrated and worried
>>334926972
>DaS2 that far down
I'm really shocked people keep passing off DaS2 like this. I mean the main game without the expansion is rather easy. But with the DLC content Fume Knight, Smelter Demon 2, and Alonne were ridiculously hard. By far harder than anything I came up against in the rest of the Souls games.
After having to get good enough to complete the DaS2 DLC everything else in the series feels like a joke and I plow right through it.
>>334927540
Try harder.
DaS1 nostalgiababs are the worst, honestly
>>334927540
Buy all the spells from Orbeck and then you can summon him.
GUYS I'VE PROVEN DAS1 IS HARDER THAN DAS3!
>>334927462
Yeah, just on NG I was around there; probably more.
Most bosses in DS3 I killed in 1-3 attempts but BB definitely had harder and often worse bosses imo.
>>334927695
I have no motivation because i know what awaits me afterwardsthe shark well
Those are the only two things i'm missing for my 100%
He killed Ornstein.
Therefore he is harder.
>NG+
>level 105
>pop dried fingers
>had one invasion
WHY the fuck are there not more invasions?????
>>334927652
>i didn't say he was easy i said he is not hard
>hard means the player gets frustrated and worried
And they have, a lot. He's the hardest boss in DaS 1 and 3.
If he's "not hard" then you're saying he shouldn't have taken most people more than a couple tries at most. Which is not the case.
>>334927856
Kiln
>>334927925
I'm not looking for fair pvp, I just want to fuck up invader dicks with seed of tree giant
>>334927661
Most people that make those lists didnt actually play DeS, Bloodborne and DaS2 to completion, it should be self evident with how they can't shut the fuck up about DaS1 when it's fairly mediocre compared to every other game in the serie gameplay wise.
>>334922334
Second phase has a retarded amount of health. He's not too hard, though. Just seems like a poorly designed boss fight.
Half the time he's flying around the camera unlocks and you loose track of him when he flies over you.
>>334927661
ds2 was hard cause of bad designed
it had broken hitboxes awfull damage detection and awfull enemy patterns that didn't make sense
>>334928029
Dungeon
>>334927661
Just because something is hard doesn't mean it's better.
The bosses have to be well designed and fun.
>>334928113
The DLC content in particular was hard because of absolutely retarded enemies with Infinite poise and they always came in groups
>>334927809
Oh hey, we took roughly the same amount of time in each game.
DaS1 is the only one I played NG+ in though
>>334928067
no yeah the original and highly innovative game whose formula every souls game after it copied is the 'mediocre' title in the series. Christ just fuck off already.
>>334928250
a vary important element in these games are details like these
balanced movesets, good enemy placement,correct stats
all of these were shit in ds2
>>334928398
That would be Demon's Souls though.
But yeah, Dark Souls was generally well designed, it didn't feel like a chore going through like 2 did. I can't believe there exist people defending 2. How bad can your taste even get
>>334927661
The DLC was just "learn to roll because you've never had to before: the game."
>>334922334
I was just making a thread so I will post here instead.
So, tell me /v/, have you killed the hardestand possibly bestboss in all the saga yet?I just did and I'm sweating
>>334928295
I've played till completion of all of them though obviously not the DLC for DaS2 and 3 and I don't play multiplayer at all. DaSIII really does go quickly the areas seemed very compact but with lots of shortcuts and hidden alcoves like Bloodborne whereas DaS1 has long linear tracts to traverse.
>>334922695
>only ever played 1.0 torrent
>beat their shitholes
does that make me gud?
>>334928745
cool boss
i really liked it and its one of the most impressive bosses in a souls game
difficulty was good too
>>334923224
>bloodborne is the hardest
>rally system
>20 vials from the start
>dodging costs few stamina and has a shit ton of i-frams
>parries are low risk high reward
Fuck no. It's probably the easiest next to DeS.
just get the dragonslayer armor shield and this boss is a joke
>>334928398
If he's speaking mostly from a difficulty standpoint he's right though. DaS was pretty easy. Most people see it as hard because it was their entry game to the series.
If we're talking about level design and game progression, then DaS is definitely near the top. DaS2 Expansion content was.
>>334928745
Got him this morning using my good ol Irithyll Straight Sword
>>334928767
Yeah, DaS3 was enjoyable, but it definitely felt short. We'll see how the added content turns out.
>>334929143
>he never played it but fuck it he will shitpost anyway
kill yourself
>>334929143
>>parries are low risk
thank you for letting us know that you are a cancerous shitposter
>>334929025
I like how he made me feel like in my first souls game when you get to some hard as fuck boss that you cant even hit twice before he destroys you and seems impossible at first, you think there has to be some secret or some gimmick to make the fight possible, but try after try you realize that the only secret is to keep trying and get fucking good.
>>334929264
>This 'you never played the game whose mechanics you just accurately described' meme
Kill yourself.
>Orphan of Kos
>hard
Holy shit git fucking gud. Orphan or Kos is the easiest boss in the DLC .
>>334929342
Not him, I love bloodborne but spamming L2 was super safe and made every humanoid boss trivial
>>334929264
I did play it. The game isn't fucking hard, let alone the hardest in the series. Get your head out of your ass.
>>334929342
How am I shitposting dumbshit? The parries are spammable as fuck and are from a distance, plus they a lenient window. How are they not low risk high reward?
Jesus fuck, can never criticize this game without retarded fanboys coming out of the woodwork.
>>334922334
>Smough and Ornistein were hard
>Orphan of kos and ludwig were hard
>stop memin guys but here let me meme
>>334922334
Fuck you, it took me 10 tries to kill this fucking faggot, and I even used a meme weapon and everything.
>>334929342
Shut the fuck up. If you parry and miss in DkS you're left standing still with your dick in the open
In Bloodborne you're just firing your gun, and you can do it at distance.
>>334929582
Most people played the DLC in NG+ where he is really damn hard unless you're over leveled. Meanwhile in regular NG he's just kinda challenging.
NG+ Kos is the hardest boss of all Souls games
>>334929646
>>334929704
fucking idiot i know you didn't play it
thats what people who didn't play the game say
>>334929686
Ludwig being difficult really is a meme. absolute casuals can beat him in 5 attempts, unlike Artorias or even fucking Gwynn you can walk under his fucking legs to avoid attacks and his range attacks are ridiculously slow.
>>334930121
Ludwig is without a doubt the hardest boss in Bloodborne.
Stop trying to act like you're hot shit on an anonymous image board, faggot.
>>334930339
so best friends are hot shit cos they beat Ludwig in 6 attempts? Stay delusional fag.
>>334930796
fuck off with your e-celebs already. What are you trying to prove?
>hurr this guy beat this boss, so it must easy as fuck
>>334930928
pretty much that. No one is going to claim they are particularly good or experienced at souls games yet they found it pretty easy certainly not like the 30+ attempts people were taking with ornstein and smough back in 2011. iIf you think its hard then you are shit at the game and objectively worse than casual players.
>>334931207
>he watches e-celebs and tries to act like he knows about bloodborne
wew
>>334930121
your mom is a meme.
Ludwig is the most fucking annoying boss in Bloodbore and one of the hardest one in the entire series.
>>334931330
don't reply to him
its an obvious (you) beggar
>>334931325
>>334931330
>>334931450
>i'm a less competent player than woolie or matt
>>334924356
I'll never understand why people find OoK so difficult. He's tough sure, but he's far from the most difficult boss.
>>334931557
you probably are, yes
>>334931757
and I still beat Ludwig easily? Fuck what a shit boss.
He really wasn't that bad
Really it was just annoying that you had to beat his bird first before you can even start to learn his patterns.
>Fight bird
>Bird is shit and easy to dodge
>Only threat is his flying fire attack
>And thats mostly because you have a high chance of accidentally running into an invisible wall trying to dodge it
>>334924625
I feel like the main reason I can't beat him is because I'm using the Greatsword with no shield. I only barely managed to beat the Twin Princes that way. I haven't given Soul of Cinder a proper attempt yet.
why do you find _____ boss hard. he's so easy it took me ____ attempts you fucking incompetent casual kill yourself
>>334931952
>One shotted
You mean beat it in 1 attempt. One-shot = you killing it in a single hit.
>>334931920
why do you find Artorias boss hard. he's so easy it took me 37 attempts you fucking incompetent casual kill yourself
>>334929880
ng + 7 Laurence and Ludwig give me fucking panic attacks
i finally caved in and summoned /bg/ help
>>334932035
Either meaning is acceptable as both are colloquiums.
>>334932192
kos wasn't as hard desu
back stabbing and parrying makes it way easier
>>334922334
Holy shit is there literally anything dark souls won't put on top of a round wooden pedestal?
>Beat Pontiff Sulyvhan on my second try
Wasn't even using a straight sword.
easy mode - straight sword
normal mode - every other weapon
hard mode- greatswords/ultra greatsword
very hard mode- whips
>>334924523
I can't handle those fucking fish
So i don't know if it's me but I literally can't summon anyone.
>>334922334
Ornstein and Smough are easy as fuck in comparison to The Nameless King, faggot. Do DS1 apologists just refuse to acknowledge that this game doesn't have exclusively easy bosses?
>>334925745
fuck off retard
bb is the second easiest in the series after demons
everything is faster but thats about it, theres no punishment when all you do is r1 spam because your moves take no stamina at all and allow you to freely dodge whenever
you regain hp by spamming r1 wow great strategy
the only hard thing about bb is going arcane because its fucking awful early but pays off end game
>>334922512
Wrong, they didn't nerf them
They fixed the shitty lock on mechanics
If you want to complain about anything casualiIng the game, look no further than the patch that ruined dark souls 1, 1.04
I feel bad for pc gamers, they will never know why the anor londo archers are hated so much
>>334922334
>Smough and Ornistein were hard
I will never, ever, understand why people found these two hard. Beat them 2nd try on my first playthrough, Ornstein last.
Four Kings were harder.
Artorias was harder.
Nameless king was harder.
>>334925981
Artorias is Piss easy
Manus is medium difficulty once you know what his dark magics are
>>334922334
He is about on par with Orphan of Kos, I think his fight is better designed though. Once you understand how the bird works its laughably easy and his second form is a really really fucking solid fight.
Also O&S are not hard. If you think they are hard you have not replayed DS1 recently. O&S are only semi-difficult in NG+ where they hit much much harder if you fuck up.
Generally dks3 bosses has the best bosses in any vanilla souls series in term of visual, atmosphere, and difficulty and that is an objective fact. DKS1 has too many samey demon fight to consider the best while DKS2 literally who??? goddamnit it was dissappointing. while bloodborne may seem harder due to a much larger hp pool and more aggresive nature, unfortunately 90% of the bosses are black monster variances or hunter in black garb shit goddamnit it was visually boring and bland.
>ludwig was hard
I thought you said stop the memes OP
I'm sorry, but the more agressive, multiphase boss style, along with the larger amount of attacks and intelligence makes nearly boss designed for difficulty in DaS3 far more challenging than anything in DaS1, which are by comparison, much slower and simpler.
I remember when people were amazed that manus had that huge combo attack, but by all comparison in DaS3 it seems really trivial now.
You have much more experience with the series now though, I recently played through DaS1 and I defeated every single boss in 0,1 or 2 tries, whereas DaS3 has multiple bosses that gave me over 10 deaths.
The aggression of some of the normal miniboss/enemies in DaS3 shits all over several of DaS1's bosses, it's actually kind of funny.
Orphan of Kos still remains the most challenging boss in the series though, ludwig has several bosses I'd rate alongside in DaS3.
The rest of the Old Hunters bosses were comparatively very easy.
The base game of bloodborne isn't even comparable to DaS3. The game's difficulty, quality, and enjoyment falls heavily off after vicar amelia, through several shitty bosses and samey areas, (No, the twist does not redeem this, they barely did anything interesting with the nightmare areas, being an extension of that same muddy game design, and nightmare frontier being pointless), asides from ebrietas, logarius and gehrman.
Hell, when every boss in DaS3 asides from Ancient wyvern has multiphase mechanics, multi-transition music, and a gradual difficulty curve while remaining to the point where EVERY individual boss feels unique, your really have to wonder why people can even remotely call them a disappointment.
>>334935126
>but by all comparison in DaS3 it seems really trivial now.
The problem is that most monsters and bosses in ds3 are just bloodborne monsters, or at least they are fast as the bloodborne ones, and your character still is slow as fuck.
If you could play ds3 with the good hunter moveset you would kill everthing in one try, the ultra fast "pssst nothing personel kid" gameplay of bloodborne is not good for a dark souls game.
The way poise works it will only rewards those who are attacking all the time, everthing in the game was changed for a more fast paced bloodborne style.
>>334935860
There's a reason why i-frame roll is the most generous in this game you know. Thank god no more 100% circling turtle around enemies any longer. it force you to adapt and mixed your playstyle shield now is for extra precautions backup measure in case you caught up in combos rather than cheese method.
>>334935860
>and your character still is slow as fuck.
The character definitively is faster and the controls more responsive, plus the equip load system is more lenient, rolls cost less stamina and there's shields unlike Bloodborne.
>>334922512
Noobs buying this game will ruin it. Spoiled cry babies cry nerf in a souls series. Practice and get better or gtfo.
>>334922380
Fuck you faggot
