Baldur's Gate/Neverwinter Nights/Temple of Elemental evil and other D&D CRPGs thread.
I finished Siege of The Dragonspear today and i can say that besides a few cringy moments the story and gameplay was good enough to satisfy me. Ill give it 8/10. Minus for being Throne of Bhaal level linear and bugs. Also final boss was too easy for a powerful fiend.
Now i will jump straight into Baldurs Gate 2. Any recommended mods besides wheels of prophesy and ascension?
>>334918048
Unfinshed Business
Altmateria Restoration
Quest Pack (D0QUESTPACK)
IEP Banters
Banter Pack
Imoen Romance
Eternal Imoen
>>334918048
>tfw when the thread was born dead because of op's shitty taste
>>334918365
I dodged most of sjw stuff because i soloed the game i guess. Still original story is superior to this.
>>334918365
>letting your political beliefs get in the way of judging a game objectively
>>334918497
>thinking a game where you spend most of the time fighting hordes of trash mobs and with a shit story objectively deserve 8/10
Do you work for IGN or something
Best girl.
>>334918048
Is the final boss that knight lady from the promotional materials? I heard that Irenicusavoided her because she was supposed to be strong
>>334918627
It's the final boss from Icewind Dale
>>334918627
Nope, she's irrelevant. The final boss is the final boss of Icewind Dale.
>>334918627
You will figh caelar too. But you can convince her to join you with enough charisma. The main enemy is a powerful fiend that will also be future icewind dale antagonist. Well fiends are immortal. But i wonder why he was so weak.
>>334918048
Get yourself a general in /vg/ ffs.
How well does Eye of the Beholder games hold up today? I saw it on gog.com the other day
>>334919398
Its fine as long as you like these kind of crawlers. I'm more of a fan of might and magic though.
>>334918328
you forgot Ascension
>>334919661
Did you read the OP you dumb fuck?
>Any recommended mods besides wheels of prophesy and ascension?
>Any recommended mods besides wheels of prophesy and ascension?
>Any recommended mods besides wheels of prophesy and ascension?
>besides wheels of prophesy and ascension?
>besides wheels of prophesy and ascension?
>besides wheels of prophesy and ascension?
>>334919913
no, because I saw Siege of Dragonspear and vomited, and you should have as well. my bad, habanero :)
anyone has the sod-patch 2.1 from gog's version?
>>334920119
Does it fix most issues anyway?
>>334920078
It's not, the mod is actually good and despite the name the romance path is optional. It adds a lot of dialogue to Imoen and banters with other companions with default friendship route. Heck if you're a dick to her she will hate you even.
>>334920186
a couple
>>334920217
Interesting. I saged this mod because i had no interest to do lewd things with her. I might try it though enduring her is very hard for me. At least in bg2 she is not as annoying as bg1.
>>334919585
Sounds about right then, ill give it a go
>>334920435
>hating Imoen
Then it's not for you.
>>334920497
HEYA
>>334920610
MUTTON-MINGERING RIFFRAFF
>>334920764
>autocorrect
I blew it
What is you favourite BG 1-2 quote?
>>334920916
'Beneath the earth our fates await us. And just think, we shan't need go far to lie in our graves.'
Haer'Dalis' random comment when entering dungeons. I have a massive bro-boner for him, no homo.
>>334920832
Pretty much any significant portion of dialogue from the Ghost of Firewine Bridge quest from BG1.
>>334920916
>You walk as a mortal, taking no advantage from your heritage, from your talents within. So many things of flesh are greater than you. Walk among them, these beasts that are less than you are. See their strength; see how easily you fall to their muscle and skill. Why do you stand for this? Why do you submit to the flesh when death is bred in your bones? Do you realise the power you might hold? When the world of flesh is beneath you, even creatures mysterious and magical will fall!
>>334921381
meant for
>>334920916
Prestige Classes > Kits
>>334922338
My nigga.
I plan to play NWN expansions. Is paladin the best for roleplaying in these modules?
>>334922743
I don't think your class really affects much, but SoU has the theme of "ancient wizards fucked up something big time".
>>334923027
I heard paladin is canon.
>>334923145
I don't think I saw a single mention of paladins in either expansion, but I didn't play one either.
>>334922743
SoU has a lot of animals you can talk to if you have animal empathy
>>334920916
My hotel's as clean as an elven arse
>>334924029
What did he mean by this? That it is dirty as fuck?
>>334924397
There's rats in the hotel so maybe
>>334924986
How do I romance the bard girl
>>334924986
A meme mod.
Divine Divinity > your D&D shit
>>334925159
It's a pretty good meme mod
>>334918048
ok, so I never played bg and am pirating EE right now, is druid a good class? I generally prefer spellcasters to melee characters in crpgs because the click on the enemy and watch thing gets tiring
>>334925821
play the original you twat
>>334925260
Clear druid is weak very often. Fighter/druid is much better. Also it is more better to recruit jaheira as she is a very good druid.
>>334925821
Fighter/druid is better and Jaheira already fills that role. I would play something with arcane spellcasting or an inquisitor/cavalier.
NATURE OF A MAN TIER
Ammon Jerro
TOP TIER
Khelgar, Sand, Bishop
HIGH TIER
Okku, Gannayev, Shandra, Neeshka
MID TIER
Safiya, Casavir, Bevil, Amie
LOW TIER
Caelyn, Zhjaeve, Grobnar, Construct, Elanee
SHIT TIER
Qara
OW THE EDGE TIER
One-of-Many
>>334925989
>>334926012
ok, I'll pick a wizard then, cheers
>>334925982
from what I read its the same thing, but with modern system support
>>334926309
Yes, also some new npcs with additional content. But they are all fully optional.
>>334924986
Top tier mod. After hours of sneaking around in dungeons and general rogue shenanigans you get hot lesbian sex.
>>334926309
Check out fighter/mage if you want to be less squishy.
>>334925821
Since everyone is being a boring faggot and talking avout min/maxing ill throw my 2cents.
For BG and SOA pure druids are fine. Unlike the cleric they cannot play the role of a semi caster/fighter so they need to be built to be pure casters. In terms of kits all of them are good. Avengers give good spells that boost their direct offensive capabilities, totemic is a free tank that breaks the eaely game, and shapeshifter makes them into a part time fighter that quickly loses steam as the game progresses.
Druids spells are linear but are still usefull. They are good at disabling large groups and have a couple of decent spells for oh shit melee scenarios. Their bread and butter revolves around summons at mid - high level where they can shit out elementals without the dumb battle of wills shit. They also get a bug spells that is an instant win vs any spell caster in the game.
They are def a little weaker then other oure classes but they are still competant characters in the long run.
Why isn't that faggot in BG2ee
>>334927048
He was an easter egg by beamdog. Yet i think he was the best NPC made by them.
>tfw saving your waifu from vampirism
>>334927240
Beamdog screwed this part. Neera is not kidnapped by bodhi just because >muh wild magic saved me.
>>334926213
Qara was really unlikeable. But probably for the better. It really got across why everyone hated her in the academy. It would have broke her character if she was suddenly a qt in your party.
>>334926656
Will the game get much harder if I go with 8 CON so I can be a flat chest?
>>334927581
You will probably die like a bitch in any combat situations. I had a tough time with the temple of Hyath
>>334926656
>homo
>not disgusting
>>334927692
fag
>>334925821
Druids are weak, but it's not like the game is impossible to beat with a substandard party. My biggest gripe is how shit summons are on low to mid levels but that's jsut a general problem of the game, rather than druids.
Also warned that shapeshifters are gutted and their werewolf and greater werewolf forms don't get the advertised stats.
>>334927743
I hate all homos equally.
>>334918758
>Nope, she's irrelevant
Why bother then?
>>334925037
Just be nice to her, generally. It's pretty much the easiest romance to trigger.
I think the actual romance trigger hits in the Ravenstown quest, when you're sleeping in the cave.
>>334927889
>>334920916
YOU MUST GATHER YOUR PARTY BEFORE VENTURING FORTH
>>334927776
Fighter/Druids are straight up better though
>>334927581
Eh. Maybe a bit.
It's not like rogues are swimming in HP anyway.
Get the ironskin ring at the jewel shop.
>>334928467
Levels in ranger made a world of difference for me in ADWR.
>>334926213
>Okku not best tier
>Safiya not top tier
>Kaelyn not top tier
Anon, pls.
>>334926656
>>334928206
>I think the actual romance trigger hits in the Ravenstown quest, when you're sleeping in the cave
Yep.
>Part 2 update never ever, soyou can't advance Pia's romance properly if you leave Vico behind
>Because of this my canon playthrough is impossible without mad console use
>Forgot what changes I need to make
REEEEEEE Valine why
>>334927581
>flat chest
Top-tier taste, friend.
Not particularly. If you're ensuring good rolls and you know how to play, -1hp for a rogue isn't much of a downside. If you're going to unlock HiPS then it becomes almost entirely irrelevant then, and even if you're not going Shadowdancer it's entirely possible to build a Princess who is essentially unhittable by halfway through the second module.There's always ways to help if you're having trouble early on, like abusing the Ironskin ring and Belts of DR
>>334927581
Use electrical traps until you get HIPS.
>>334928993
So I have to keep Vico alive?
>>334929289
Only in Part Two, you don't have a choice in Part One (you have to keep all your companions alive then)
You start off Pt 2 separated from your party and have to rescue them, and you can simply choose to not rescue Vico, but it fucks up the triggers for the rest of the module (because Valine is bad at coding)
>>334928441
Yes fighter/mages are straight up better then every solo fighter or mage class. What is your point?
>>334928913
I generally go for 4 levels of fighter to pick up the weapon specialization and dual wielding feats, plus a few points of discipline.
>>334929289
It makes killing him later that much more satisfying.
>>334918048
I just bought several RPGs in the past two days, pick what I play /v/.
>Gothic trilogy
>Dungeon Siege trilogy
>Wizardry 6-8
>BG:EE
>>334930465
Gothic
>>334930465
Gothic 1 and 2 with the unofficial patches and system pack
>>334929580
Fighter druids are also more fun to play
Is Rogue/Ranger/Shadowdancer a good combo for ADWR?
>>334930465
BG EE. Gothic is extremely popular in my slav country but i simply can't like it. I get bored and annoyed by glitches very quickly. I played all the RPG classics but gothic is what i cannot stand.
>>334931156
If it sucks dicks better then yes.
>>334931156
Yeah, I'd say that along with Rogue/Fighter/SD are the best class combinations. Ranger is probably slightly better thematically, though.
HiPS is just too good, and if you do something like spec into dual-wielding rapiers with a large SA bonus... fun times.
>>334920610
IT'S ME, BEST GIRL
>>334931156
>>334931448
Isn't it a problem that you get less thieving skills if you multiclass?
>>334931513
Are sisters for fucking?
Im glad this thread popped up, im having a serious personal issue regarding crpg's and I wanted all of your opinions
So I used to be into crpg's as a kid, and played stuff like BG1 and PS:T on release. never beat them or got very far because I was a kid and didnt have too much computer time. Regardless, i love them and always had fond memories of the genre
Fast forward to today. I have tried over, and over, adn over, to get into a crpg and beat it. ive tried BG1 and 2, ive tried PS:T, ive tried IWD, ive even tried fringe shit thats barely a crpg like NWN2 and pillars of eternity.
Every single time, the exact same thing happens: I get a decent chunk into the game (about half way or so) and just lose all will to continue playing. I keep trying to force myself to push on, but I subconsciously stop optimizing my characters by checking the shops for upgrades or seeing if drops are better than what im already wearing, stop doing any and all side quests to the point where they build up to a unmanageable huge list and becomes overwhelming, which then completely kills my last remaining bit of will to continue playing.
Its like at some point all of the gear, side quests, micromanaging abilities in combat and dialog options get overwhelming and I just kind of get overloaded and give up. Does anyone else have this problem?
Its weird because by all means these should be games I love to play, im big on dialog and story and RPG mechanics and all that stuff, so it really boggles my mind why I cant play a crpg to completion.
Is this normal? Has anyone else had this problem before? Are CRPG's just not for me? am I too casual/need to git gud/a normie? please help
>>334931284
I tried 1 for a time I believe, but all I remember is very clunky controls. BG:EE looks fun, but my big issue with IE games always seems to be actually playing the game. Making the characters is great and then after two hours making a brand new party, I'm burned out for a bit.
>>334930508
>>334930879
Sounds good anons. I'll try 1, probably take a break and play BG:EE or Siege and then continue onto 2 if I like it.
>>334931628
From what i remember you get plenty of items to compensate
>>334931849
Only fully blood related sisters are acceptable. Imoshit is only half related.
>>334931628
Naw, not really. You only really need one level of SD to get the best ability (two if you want permanent Darkvision) and sure, the lesser skillpoints from taking a few levels in Ranger or - particularly - Fighter hurts, but it's more than made up for with proficiencies, higher HD, better BAB and access to Discipline as a class skill (and bonus feats if you go Fighter)
Rogue should still be your focus but there aren't many Rogue skills you need to keep /maxed/ (Persuade, Open Lock, Disable Device, UMD and Tumble are the only ones I can really think of) - between the moderate-to-high Int you should have, you shouldn't run into too much trouble carrying over skill points between levels and making up with item bonuses.
>>334931849Yes. What else would they be for?
How do i kill Drizzt?
>>334932725
Get him stuck in the lake and shoot him from the other side.
>>334932509
To be fair, you were still raised together.
>>334932725
Bury him in skellies.
>>334932327
plz respond
I finished creating my characters for my first playthrough of Icewind Dale. The party consists of mage, cleric, thief, fighter , ranger(archer),sorcerer. Anything i should consider before starting the game?
>>334918048
>Ill give it 8/10
You have really fucking low standards, you lucky fucker.
>>334932725
Easy way involves abandoning party members all around him and using a bow to kill him
>>334932327
It's clearly a childhood trauma.
>>334933373
From what i heard mage aren't as good as in bg
>>334933564
But I have nothing but fond memories of playing crpg's as a kid, thats why im so confused as to why im not having any fun with them
>>334933373
Dual or multi thief to mage. Get more melee characters.
>>334933694
>fond memories of playing
Yeah, playing, not finishing.
>>334933694
Consider this, you haven't finished them as a kid either.
>>334918048
>tfw always remembered Baldur's Gate as being really hard
>replayed it again, just finished it yesterday
>easy as shit, even Sarevok went down in like 10 seconds
Even that fight with the demon in Ulgoth's Beard was harder
>>334920916
Get me out of this hell-hole
>>334933884
Turn up the difficulty then.
Thoughts on Torment? I'm super hyped.
>>334933884
>Even that fight with the demon in Ulgoth's Beard was harder
No shit, that's the secret boss of the game. It was meant to be the hardest fight.
>>334933645
Yes. One mage in team is enough. Better to get some more tankers to fight hordes of enemies.
>>334933865
>>334933802
Hmm so you think the fact of the matter is that ive never been a "crpg guy" from the beginning?
maybe my problem is I like the idea of the genre more than actually playing it.
The dialog in planescape torment is so fucking good, I had such a blast from my time playing (up until you kill the hag in the maze and the big green guy pops up for the first time and you end up in a mysterious desert town) it just really bums me out I dont have the drive to keep playing to see the story through to the end.
>>334934079
When is it coming out? I'm not betaing storyfag games.
>>334934079
I'm hoping it's good and not getting hype. I don't wanna be hurt, anon, I love Planescape so much, it was the first CRPG I finished.
>>334934079
Kickstarter raises my fear of it. But i hope for a very good vidya. Planescape is a very interesting universe, yet no one cares about it anymore.
>>334933884
Ulgoth's Beard is the expansion area, you cleared the expansion which contains harder enemies before the base game, ofc it was harder than Sarevok.
the D&D games are only hard if you dont know what your doing
>>334934178
Man you where so close to beating it then.
>>334934178
>ive never been a "crpg guy" from the beginning
No, you're just not used to finish these games.
>>334934079
>that UI
Looks kinda...Shadowrunny.
>>334934273
Actually, they upped the difficulty of the Sarevok fight for the expansion, it was easier in the base game.
>>334934335
Oh wow, really? My friend told me I was about half way.
>>334934365
Do you think finishing these games is something that requires getting used to? maybe the overwhelming feeling I get every time is a normal thing everyone gets and i havent learned how to power through to the end?
>>334934403
Yeah, if not for the shit on the right I'd assume they designed it for tablets.
>>334934504
>Oh wow, really? My friend told me I was about half way.
You were more like 75% of the way through. After the Outlands, there's only really two major areas left until the Fortress of Regrets.
Can't decide on either fighter/mage or fighter/cleric for full BG:EE trilogy run. I realize the former is stronger because you're half god (wizard) but having armor, shitloads of bonus spell slots, and acting as the party healer is tempting. Multiclassing BTW. Don't want a long period of playing catch up by dual classing.
>>334935635
Protection spells are better than any armor.
>>334935635
>not rolling Ranger
It's like you hate fun
>>334932420
Definitely play Gothic 1 first. NotR for Gothic 2 was designed for Gothic fans and the beginning is brutal if you don't know what you're doing.
>>334935907
Ranger is literally just a worse fighter. The only good ranger is Minsc because he has the Berserker SLA.
>>334935635
>tfw playing as a fallen Paladin
Makes for good edgy roleplaying.
>>334936109
>he has the Berserker SLA
No, it's shitty version of this ability.
>>334918048
Are these games good in spite of the rules or because of the rules?
>>334936427
Because the forgotten realms universe is the best i have ever known.
>>334936427
That really depends on who you ask.
>>334936427
Neither, really. Although the rules are not terrible.
>>334918048
Are blackguards OP in the EE?
>>334936943
They are quite strong. Dorn for example is really powerful even in ToB. Sarevok is only better and slashing with greatswords.
Blackguards can become very good wizard killer with their posion. Also they can do a lifesteal spell once per day that has damage scaling to level. They still are a bit worse than fighters, but you get spells of evil clerics and mentioned abillities.
>>334931628
Nah. You still go mostly rogue. Rogues get mad skill points. Enough to get the skills you need and keep them maxed.
I still don't get 3E. Is picking feats based on your total level or level in a class? Does it matter what you put a level into when picking feats?
>>334937914
Also should I ever put feat points into skills or as a rogue should I get evasive feats.
>>334937914
It's based on total level. But some classes have bonus feats on certain levels(of that class).
For example, human fighter lvl1 has 3 bonus feats, elven druid lvl1 has just 1 bonus feat.
>>334937914
You gain one feat every 3 levels.
>>334938297
Okay but say I have 5 levels in rogue and pick ranger on the time of getting a new feat. Can I only pick ranger feats?
>>334918048
What're are your canon protagonists in the various D&D games?
blades are the best kit
>>334938407
Its Abdel Adrian in Baldurs Gate
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Abdel_Adrian
Other D&D games are party based or don't have specified heroes though neverwinter nights one is thought to be a paladin.
>>334938802
>abdel
f*ck off
>>334937914
Everyone gets a feat every third level. Some classes, like the fighter get bonus feats on certain class levels.
For example, at level 7 a rogue doesn't get to select a feat. However, if you are a level 7 rogue 5/fighter 2, you get to pick a feat from the fighter's bonus feats list.
The every third level feats that everyone gets let you pick anything you meet the requirements for. Classes that get bonus feats tend to have smaller class-relevant selections to pick from. So, on your second fighter level you won't be able to pick spell penetration.
>>334938394
I believe rangers have no class specifics feats to choose, so you're choosing from general feats.
But yes, if you want metamagic feat(for example), you should pick that 6th level as a wizard.
>>334938937
Thank you that clears up a lot of things for me. I was worried I was picking levels at the wrong time.
>>334938802
>in the canon, Imoen dies and charname has sex with Bodhi
Well, okay then
>>334938407
Depends on the setting, really. Most of the 'protagonists' are nigh-untouchable near demigods, like uh. Elminster or the Blackstaff or Drizzt, etc.
>>334938802
We dont talk about those fucking books. What a fucking shitshow. What they did to Minsc was a tragedy.
>>334935635
Fighter/clerics do have the bonus of being able to play half-orcs for that delicious 19 STR/CON
>>334939241
Baldurs gate books are so cheesy
If Drizzt is a ranger, then how can he be one of the best swordsmen in the world if he can't even become a master in his chosen weapons?
>>334934249
it'll not be in planescape, though
>>334939475
Drizzt is Drizzt, man, shit like class rules doesn't really apply.
>>334939339
Half orcs are so op in BG.
>>334939475
Because he is the bestest at everything. He could have been a wizard too, he was just like "fuck magic, it's for faggots".
>>334938802
>Although Adrian eventually escaped the grasp of Irenicus, he ended up being aided by Bodhi. Slowly, he began to fall in love with Bodhi, who had already fallen for him, with the two ending up on an adventure to stop Irenicus. Travelling with Bodhi, Abdel eventually acted on his feelings for her and the two had sex.[citation needed] However, before they were going to again consummate, Abdel transformed into the Bhaalspawn Slayer and murdered his love. After defeating Irenicus, Abdel resumed his romance with Jaheira and became embroiled in a conflict with the other Bhaalspawn.
Please just fucking tell me none of the other D&D games have shit books written about them.
>>334939835
He accidentaly caused Drizzt Syndrome in many tabletop players that play rangers. All edgy rangers are like drizzt.
>>334939835
Y'know I'd accuse him of being the classic marty stu with tragic backstory and shit but he's kind of the original, after all.
Should he get a pass for that? I'm not sure.
>>334939931
I don't think so. Also other D&D books are of much better quality in writing. R.A. Salvatore books are actually fine.
>>334939931
Yeah, that shit is trash. BG was badly served by that novel.
>>334940172
>Should he get a pass for that?
Nah shit writing is shit writing irregardless.
>>334936427
For me it's a bit of both.
Adapting the systems for computer games made for some clunky gameplay at times, so when you're actually playing the games things might not flow as well as you'd like.
However, the upshot is that the clearly defined systems allow for complex and involved character creation and planning. I think I've spent as much time or more planning characters for NWN than I have actually playing modulesthink I got a touch of the 'tism.
>>334940172
Well, it's not like the books are any good, so how he is portrayed is a pretty minor problem. The setting can handle one character like him, and he's been like that long enough that no one really cares anymore. Now on the other hand, from what I've read on the wiki, Cattie-Brie is inexcusable.
I want to make a character in BG1, beat the game with him and import him into BG2 but I'm not sure which class to go with. My predicament is this:
Mage is pretty weak in BG1, Fighter is the best option
In BG2 it's the reverse where the Mage becomes stronger than the Fighter
What do? This would be a non-problem if Druid wasn't so shitty in Baldur's Gate.
>>334940405
>I think I've spent as much time or more planning characters for NWN than I have actually playing modules
My brother in autism.
>>334940592
>make a mage
>let meatshields do the heavy lifting in BG1
>enjoy godhood in BG2
>Aec'Letec
HOW
O
W
>>334940592
>Mage is pretty weak in BG1
No.
>>334940803
Yeah, unforutnatley being a mage is kinda boring in BG1.
>>334940958
Yes. The main reason you take a Mage with you in BG1 is to Magic Missile interrupt other Mages and to buff your Fighters with Haste so they can rip everyone apart.
>>334918048
Sorcerer > Mage
get fucked not being born a god and having to do gay shit like study
>>334940592
go bard, in the first game just make sure you grab algernons cloak , then in the second game choose blade as your kit
>>334940592
>mage is pretty weak
I'm just going to create a mage so I can show you hwo I can break your ass
gimme an address
>>334940821
>how
more like who
>>334941113
>he doesn't know about sleep, horror, color spray and so on
>uses magic missile on low levels
Shit mage spotted.
>>334941113
>what is fireball
>what is sleep
>>334941113
>forgetting about fireball
>>334941164durlag's tower quest final bossnot the one in the tower
>>334941192
The thing is, you don't need any of that shit when your 18/00 Fighter with Haste kills everything on screen within seconds.
>>334941217
Fireball is a garbage spell. Most effective use for it is to clear out gibberlings and skellies lmao.
>>334941305
Just use potion of freedom on everyone and later dispel his death thing.
>>334941379
You are retarded
>>334941379
Fireball is still fairly effective in 2E.
>>334940592
Human Fighter in BG1
Dual class to mage in BG2
>>334941305
I wouldn't attempt him unless I was at level cap. It makes all the difference. You can destroy the mirror as well, if you want. That releases some shadows that can serve as cannon fodder for you. Good luck anon.
>>334941141
Fuck off Qara, don't you have some rubble to get crushed under?
>>334941531
No, anon. That is the Demon Knight. And he is not the final boss.
>>334918048
>Also final boss was too easy for a powerful fiend
The actual final boss is the plot twist and surviving it without groaning yourself to death
>>334941478
It's ok, but it's not that great. Mages only really become powerhouses in BG2. In BG1 their only use is utlity and buffs. I mean you can do damage with them, I guess, but most big baddies like >>334941305 will simply resist everything you do. You really have to let the frontliners do all the heavy lifting.
>>334941704
Um, yes. And?
>>334940821
>HOW
Haste + potions of invulnerability (if you get Held, you might as well just reload)
It's a fair bit easier if you kill the summoner before she talks to you (Aec'Letec still appears, but it takes an extra few seconds, and you should be able to kill most other people in the room before then)
>>334941623
For real though, I much prefer sorcerers, if you know what your doing you'll have every spell you'll need and you get to cast so much more.
>>334941721
So mages are shit because the last boss has magic resistance, right.
They will still clean up most of the encounters for the remaining 99% of the game with a single spell or two, starting from level 1.
>>334941217
>>334941250
>>334941379
>>334941478
Skulltrap always does 1d6 per level with no hard limit like fireball has and due to its lower ratio you can use it effectively in combat once you will learn to aim with it well. Skulltrap > fireball > sunfire > shit > lighning bolt
>>334941141
>>334941865
I hate sorcerers because I love having options.
It's also the last class I would recommend to someone who's new to the game, since you need to know every spell inside out to choose the good ones.
>>334940821
I remember it as easy. I killed all the cultists around him first and it weakened him somehow.
>>334941868
Lightning bolt is godlike in 2E if you learn how to use it, as it can hit an enemy multiple times if you bounce it right. You can make yourself immune to it with a minor globe of invulnerability, and then bounce it between two walls for obscene damage.
>>334941952
I guess, options don't really matter when most of the spells are just fluff and you can get through 90% of the game with just fireball, cloudkill and breach
>>334941865
Yes, mages are shit because in the most important encounters where every person counts they fall short if you are trying to do damage with them. That's why Dynaheir is a fucking awful Mage NPC. Invoker is a garbage Specialist Mage. OTOH Edwin is a Conjurer which is the best.
>>334938407
Who's you personal protagonist in the various DnD games such as BG and Torment?
>>334942105
Having options ismore fun.
>>334941868
Skulltrap does magic damage which means you'll kill your own guys with it, and less AOE isn't better. Try again.
>>334942132
That's not even true, though.
Lower resistance usually fixes most of your problems. I think it's level 4 which you can access in BG1.
>>334942142
My self-insert + friends.
>>334942204
>which means you'll kill your own guys with it
So basically you can't aim your spells. No wonder you think mages are bad.
>>334942204
I never damaged my own guys with it. Learn to cheese with skulltrap m8.
>>334941437
>potion of freedom
thank you anon that made wonders, now I don't have to cast remove paralysis
too bad dispell sometimes doesn't dispell that thing
>>334941810
that's what I'm doing, I kill the summoner and then I can summon minions, but I can barely kill another summoner in that time
>>334941964
it's easy if not for the death gaze thing
I almost killed him now, but it death gazed 4 party member who could not be dispelled and then died horribly
I'll try again
>>334942067
I never remember to use it in tight corridors. I use chain lightning a lot in big fights though.
>>334942389
Death ward is a protip.
Does SoD raise the XP cap?
>>334943359
Yes but not by very much
>>334942389
just killed him in less than 20 seconds holy shit
>freedom pots
>target fireball wand to far side, cultists get hurt
>cultists regroup like "what was that" then kill all of them with another fireball and some hits
>meanwhile attack the demon and bring him to near death, had to stop attacking
>hit demon one last time
damn
thanks anons
I see a lot of people talking about figher/mage multiclass here, but isn't that kinda shitty?
I obviously don't know much of D&D games but aren't arcane spells with armor a big no-no? Or do you just give up 9th level spells to use still metamagic?
Is it a 2E thing? I've only played NWN1/2.
>>334944142
It's great in 2E and you can't wear armor as a fighter/mage.
>>334944142
You don't need armor when you have mage armor, shield, mirror image and stoneskin.
>>334944019
Grats, that's literally the hardest fight in the entire game.
It's like 1 of 3 fights in the whole of BG that you actually have to prep for.
>>334944362
And tenser's transformation, improved haste, spell deflection, etc
>>334944463
The hardest fight in the game is that bloody mage at the Friendly Arm Inn right at the beginning.
>>334943359
Found this. Actual cap is 500,000. Looks like it's enough to start BG2 as a dual fighter9/mage10
>>334944565
I wish there was something like Tenser that doesn't disable your spells but gives you BAB/THAC0. Something like divine power for clerics.
>>334944362
>>334944253
Oh I see, I thought that wasn't enough to replace an actual armor, at least not until you get something like stoneskin.
>>334939931
This actually sounds hilarious, now I want to read it
>>334945013
I guess you could always buff your spells and re requip your armor.
>>334944463
I was expecting that
I never fighted sarevok but I think it's going to be easier than this
>>334921512
I wish this was a book.
>>334927240
>mfw viconia dedded and i had no idea what to do
>>334932725
wands of monster summoning
>>334945974
How would you not save the best girl? Disgusting Riviin.
>>334924986
It is a ok module.
>trying to get that 18/00 roll
Fucking casual filters.
>>334946257
>tfw rolled a 95
>18/07 str
>>334945812
Irenicus is my favourite character in forgotten realms. Good RPG feels like a book. Damn i need to DM some D&D. Its been months. I'm one od these guys who prefer to DM rather than play.
>>334946257
FUUUUUU I just got 18/00 but I rerolled on accident.
>>334946851
You might as well just use the save game editor and cheat yourself in those stats, since you're cheating anyway.
3 rerolls is normal.
>>334946851
You find a book that adds 1 to your strengh later on. You will have 19 anyways.
>>334939689
I'm well aware, I'm talking about them failing as a 'spiritual successor'. Don't want them to ruin that legacy, mang.
>>334946950
it's a computer game. Optimal stats or bust. There's no roleplaying yourself out of situations with sub optimal stats like in real PnP.
>>334947018
This, fucking noobs
>>334947554
You don't need to roleplay yourself out of anything just because you have 1 less THAC0 and damage.
>>334939475
he only became a ranger in the fourth or fifth book
before that he was a fighter
>vendor sells cursed items
>kill him
>reputation loss
someone call the retard police
>>334948271
I agree you ought to be detained.
>tfw playing as a cute elf fighter
>no lesbian romance options apart from Hexxat
>>334946851
Wew lads, at least I got a better roll now, especially since I'm planning to dual class to a Mage.
>>334948371
>no lesbians in HotU
>made by Gayder
I don't understand
>>334948419
Too bad you need to go back and change the portrait.
>>334948565
He can change it ingame
>>334948565
I'm happy enough with the self-portrait.
>>334948419
Absolutely disgusting.
>>334948419
nasty minmaxing
