Here is a new character trailer for Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeHYMbOKm8o
English when?
>>334895649
>Junpei
I have heard him before, but WHERE
WHERE
>>334895707
Tatsuhisa Suzuki.
He's Nostis' voice actor.
Is Carlos' voice actor also Dio? If so, I'm going with Jap voices this time. I can't get enough of that voice.
>Hello. Carlos here.
>C-Team is voting for D-Team so D-Team should vote for Q-Team and Q-Team for C-Team.
OH NO
NOT AGAIN
>>334895707
Noctis VA
https://youtu.be/CX5D4Fenz5g
>ZTD threads are completely ded after the announce of everyone
Was that a family photo at the end where the images were flashing?
>>334896535
Which is weird. Everybody got burned out discussing it everyday?
Japanese Boxart
Holy fuck there's a lot of interesting shit flashed in those last couple of seconds.
So is Zero Junpei or Phi? It has to be one of those goobers.
>those voices
English for me
>>334895901
Sugita is great. Sugita is love.
Also, in that trailer it's Phi saying she loves Sigma and Diana.
There's a picture of two parents and two babies.
FBR Infected
Etc
Etc
What the fuck is FBR?
>>334898510
Prisoner's dilemma?
>>334898494
Seems like teams decide which team participates in the decision game...
Why would they all vote for a different team?
Is a split vote like allying?
Maybe if there's no majority vote then they don't have to play the decision game...
Who is Junpei punching? Carlos?
>>334898510
So if you inject radical-6 to someone infected with FBR they survive?
And you have 1/4 to not die from radical-6? But didn't everyone in VLR succumb to it?
What a happy family
I SAID I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT FUCKING TERMITES
Poor Q
HOLY FUCK JUNPEI IS SO EDGY
"I grew up" :^) he's in his edgy teen phase.
>>334898108
All the consolewars shitposting tired everyone out I think.
>>334898510
No idea what FBR is an acronym for. Maybe its like in the demo decision game where you have to infect someone to save another person from being killed indefinitely?
Such a creepy trailer. God dayum. I'm pretty damn excited.
The japanese website has also been updated. New screenshots and such.
http://www.spike-chunsoft.co.jp/zeroescape/index.php
>"I told you to pull the fucking trigger already."
>"The fuck you say?"
>"It's alright, I won't die."
Fucking Carlos, man.
>D rating
Seems like they didn't go all the way to Z
Why the fuck wouldn't they post the English version of the trailer moonland doesn't even care about this game.
>>334899246
QUANTUM IMMORTALITY
>>334899308
Because Akshit Games
We don't even have a proper english page yet.
>>334899308
Because Aksys is shit at promoting. Spikechunsoft are actually doing a good job.
Meanwhile Aksys is busy pandering to animecon dweebs.
>>334898413
Uchi won't pull Remember:11 twist, will he?
The website updated with transparent artwork of all the participants. They also fixed Akane's sleeves.
I made a zip with all the art if anyone is interested.
https://u.pomf.is/maeadv.zip
>>334899671
Thanks, bud
>>334899671
The right one looks poorly edited.
All those wrinkles from her sweater are complete gone. Even I can do this elementary level of shop.
>>334898453
The only voice I really dislike is Junpei's. He sounds so flat and lifeless.
>>334898807
They were all the 1/4
>>334898510
>ZTD Zero infects participants with FBR, some new disease that wasn't mentioned in 999/VLR
>He gives the participants vials containing the first samples of Radical-6
>They're told that FBR and Radical-6 nullify each other and given this choice
>Nobody knows whether they're infected with FBR or not (50/50 chance) until it's too late
>Injecting Radical-6 is the logical answer to minimize risk of fatality
>but it turns out that 25% survival rate is what destroys the world in VLR
>Sigma and Phi will almost certainly be against ever touching Radical-6 no matter what
>Injecting Radical-6 in the first place raises the Trolley Problem: actively doing something you know might kill someone vs inaction which means they're more likely to die.
This is definitely ZTD's equivalent to the AB game.
>>334898510
Wait, if you get infected with FBR but not radical-6 you will die definitely die while the other way around actually increase your chance of survival?
Radical-6 is a red herring?
Six of us are dead
The animation looks like shit, unfortunately
>>334899887
Completely intentional with the things he's saying
>>334900864
No one cares. This game was made on a budget of dreams and tears.
>>334900362
Radical-6 leaves some survivors: although humanity was decimated, there were still some people left in VLR. Some of those infected survivors were used to create Axelavir, which may or may not be related to FBR.
The infected Earth might have a higher than 75% fatality rate overall because, even if you don't directly die from the infection, you might get hit with a nuclear explosion or food shortage or something else.
If you're infected with radical-6 and don't die, presumably you still spread it to more people. At least one of the Mars Mission survivors in the VLR timeline probably was infected, which spread Radical-6 outside.
Unlike in Pandemic, Madagascar probably never closed its ports.
The more I learn about this game the less hype I am.
Death was so much more impactful in 999 than vlr because it showed off the rules and introduced distrust by saying it had to be murder with at leasr two accomplices. Radical-6 was boring shit and I'M afraid fbr will be too.
>>334895649
>Those atrocious animation
3D was a mistake
>>334902959
We knew that a game ago.
>>334903168
One would have hoped they had improved at this point.
>>334902959
>>334903168
>>334903229
It's a literally who developer, it's not longer being done at Chunsoft.
I really can't complain though, Uchi is still writing and directing.
>>334902959
you act as if 2D was better
>>334898802
akane of course, after all the shit she's done to him
>Akane showing emotion in the trailer
What is this madness
>>334904387
It is. The cg scenes blow the animated "struggle scenes" of vlr out of the water.
>>334898802
Even punching someone he still looks like a dead fish.
Delicious suffering.
>neogaf thread
>HURR ANIMATIONS
>OH MAN WHAT SHITTY ANIMATIONS
>WOW LOOK AT THESE ANIMATIONS
>>334908364
>neogaf
Your fault for going to that shithole. The fact of the matter is that the animations are shitty. Like the part where Junpei is throwing punches in the video in the OP is comically bad. I'm guessing I will probably have to force myself not to laugh during those moments in the game.
Why did they give the modeling to a 3rd party again?
>>334899671
I liked puffy ones better.
>>334903229
The game was almost canceled, I never had higher hopes in terms of budget.
So when is a nipfriend going to translate for us?
>>334898802
Carlos is like twice as wide as him, can Junpei beat up anything but girls and a kid?
Poor Q
Mandragora root? The one Ace found in All-Ice's coffin?
>>334911294
Isn't that a pig?
>>334911294
thats looks like a fucking pig you pig
>>334911294
dont talk to me and my pig again
>>334898257
Huh, the American one is actually better.
>>334911436
>>334911548
>>334911597
Q's real body confirmed.
>>334898602
could be, that's certainly a game theory percentage chart.
>>334898930
TERMITES
![img_slide2_2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QIlrBp1.jpg "img_slide2_2[1].jpg")
Is Eric based yet
>>334911889
I need to replay VLR, I barely remember much apart from the twists and some of the endings
>Junpei: “Sorry, but I’ve stopped playing hero.”
>Q(?): “Why?”
>Junpei: “Because I’m an adult now.”
Jesus christ, Junpei.
>>334911751
That's a matrix retard
>>334912676
Translate the rest, you cocktease.
Holy shit I am so keen. I can't wait for Fates to release (ausfag) so I'll have something to play while I'm waiting for this.
Who else is ready for the GOTY?
holy fuck those animations are shit
>>334913614
>2016
>3DS still not hacked
>>334913540
Not my translation:
http://sleepless-rain.tumblr.com/post/143104372361
>[31st December 2028]
>[Nine people trapped]
>[Divided into three teams will play]
>[A game that decides the fate of eight hundred million people]
>[Decision game]
>Carlos: “Like I said, just shoot me”
>Eric: “what are you saying?”
>Carlos: “Don’t worry. I won’t die”
>Junpei : “What are you upset about?”
>Akane: “Because there’ll be no meaning to the most important lives that I’ve lost!”
>Junpei: “Sorry, but I’ve stopped playing hero.”
>Q(?): “Why?”
>Junpei: “Because I’m an adult now.”
>Q: “As long as we kill one more person, one more person…one more….”
>Mira:“This is it! This!”
>“It’s the same as the my first partner”*
>Eric: “Mira! Where is she!?”
>Q: “C-calm down Eric!”
>Eric: “Mira is…my angel!”
>Phi: “You’re too kind.”
>Diana: “That’s my weakness… is what a lot of people say.”
>“Please….kill me…”
>Sigma: “This is so I can protect you both!”
>Diana: “Wait…Wait! Sigma-san!”
>Phi: “Quit it… stop!”
>Sigma: “If we don’t we’re done for!”
>Phi: “Both of you… have to make it out of here alive.”
>Diana: “Phi-san…”
>Phi: “I love you.”
>Zero: “The fate of the world hangs on the choices you make.”
>“So… what will you do?”
>“Well then, sweet dreams.”
>>334898413
Yeah guessed it.
Phi and sigma are related
>>334913540
Credit to http://sleepless-rain.tumblr.com/post/143104372361 for translating, I'm just copy/pasting this shit
>Carlos: “Like I said, just shoot me”
>Eric: “what are you saying?”
>Carlos: “Don’t worry. I won’t die”
>Junpei : “What are you upset about?”
>Akane: “Because there’ll be no meaning to the most important lives that I’ve lost!”
>Junpei: “Sorry, but I’ve stopped playing the hero.”
>Q(?): “Why?”
>Junpei: “Because I’m an adult now.”
>Q: “As long as we kill one more person, one more person…one more….”
>Mira:“This is it! This!”
>“It’s the same as the my first partner”*
>Eric: “Mira! Where is she!?”
>Q: “C-calm down Eric!”
>Eric: “Mira is…my angel!”
TN: Mira uses the word “相手(Aite)” which can be a partner (as in a boyfriend) or in a fighting/battle context can be an enemy of some sorts.
>Phi: “You’re too kind.”
>Diana: “That’s my weakness… is what a lot of people say.”
>“Please….kill me…”
>Sigma: “This is so I can protect you both!”
>Diana: “Wait…Wait! Sigma-san!”
>Phi: “Quit it… stop!”
>Sigma: “If we don’t we’re done for!”
>Phi: “Both of you… have to make it out of here alive.”
>Diana: “Phi-san…”
>Phi: “I love you.”
>Zero: “The fate of the world hangs on the choices you make.”
>“So… what will you do?”
>“Well then, sweet dreams.”
>>334895649
Holy fuck those new tracks are fucking savage
>>334913826
>>334913848
Thanks, brothers.
>>334913809
It's hacked, I've just avoided playing it. I have friends that I play with, even if it's single player, so I'm waiting till they can get it
>>334898510
Welp
We guessed it
Radical-6 was actually released to stop something even worse
DILEMMA
Phi is really gonna be Diana and Sigma's daughter from the future, isn't she.
>>334912380
There's gonna be a stream replaying 999/VLR
>>334914323
Nah she's his sister
>>334914415
What about the red eyebrows then
>>334914415
She'd have said something about Luna in VLR if that was the case then
>>334914323
Gotta admit, as much as I hate it, I'd prefer if she were trap Santa then a hidden relative.
>these animations
I really just wish they stuck with the novel aspect -- I mean it's not like a low budget has much if any impact on that. I'm still hyped that the end of the trilogy is actually getting released, but this level of animation is worse than Bioware
>>334914549
Same, the models looks better than the ones in VLR, had they just stuck to the VN style with limited cutscenes, it would have been pretty good.
Uchikoshi said years ago that he'd like to try out cinematics though, I can indulge him in doing whatever the fuck he wants to for the last game.
>>334895649
>tfw cant stand Uchikoshi's style of story-bullshitting with trillion tropes mixed mindlessly
>barely withstood character designs in previous games, not to mention absurd stories in them
>suddenly third game
>looks C-tier graphically since budget, but art is actually very good and atmosphere is promising
>God-tier VA cast
>long-term fans of the series suddenly hates it with all their might
This place is comedy gold.
>>334915438
I'm at least hoping there will be a new uchi twist with the cinematic storytelling. Something like camera angles or the fact you can see the protagonists from a third person perspective, maybe.
>>334915630
Yeah, I hope he pulls out a new narrative twist with the new style. Maybe BW doesn't have to occupy someone's consciousness all the time.
What if the FBR is the reason animation are so shitty?
>>334915484
Where do you see the hate? All i got is eagerness.
In VN format, it's just the characters doing the same simple animations over and over in first person.
Is that really what you wanted?
The 3DS touchscreen during puzzles in VLR is actually Sigma's robot eye
>>334913848
Why did Phi say "I love you" ?
Teams can't see each other, right? Except through some message system involving a dog? The twist that they're not in the same place/time seems kind of obvious
>>334919701
>>334919701
Yes they can. There's a screenshot of Carlos standing next to Diana.
>>334898802
I bet Carlos after he sacrificed Akane in one of the paths.
>>334898874
>Mexican Standoff
YES PLEASE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFa1-kciCb4
>>334919818
>>334919785
gotcha
so what's the dog for
>>334899887
Junpei looks (I guess is supposed to sound) like he doesn't give a single shit about what's happening.
>>334914323
It seems like it.
Althought isn't it too obvious? It's like Uchikoshi is trying to mislead us or something.
>>334898930
>yfw phi isn't wearing a bikini
Wow. Junpei is kind of a dick. He seems even more bitter than he was on VLR. Hell, considering what he said in that game, he should be at least happy to see Akane again, but he looks either miserable, pissed or not even really caring.
>>334921323
Eeeh it's probably just an act. He'll go batshit crazy if Akane is in danger.
Which team are you rooting for?
>>334922225
Q all the way
>>334922225
C>Q>D
Q has the "new guys" factor going for it, and is the wildcard, but C has Junpei and Akane in it, and 999 is still my favorite in the series, so I'm biased towards it.
>>334920124
They're locked in different areas but eventually they meet up.
The dog carries messages from team to team while they're away from each other
So, will there still be escape rooms? It seems it goes from Cinema sequence to Decision time.
>>334922647
Have you missed all screenshots with characters solving puzzles and puzzle room textboxes?
>watch an hour of cutscenes
>solve 2 minutes of puzzle
great gameplay guys
>>334923307
Nah its most likely 20 minutes of cutscenes and 15-40 minute puzzles depending on the player
>>334923307
I don't think even the first puzzle in the series takes 2 minutes to complete.
Eric looks bae
>>334923493
I was stuck for 1 and a half hours on that Q room from VLR. I think there'll be enough gameplay.
>>334923307
That's literally every Zero Escape game.
Anyone else feeling bad for this faggot?
>forced into a huge ass pig mask
>has a feminine voice
>stuck with an insanely hot crazy big boobed chick that wouldn't /ss/ him because she wants to kill him
>can't talk to said insanely hot crazy big boobed chick because Eric will slit his throat if he does
>stuck with fucking Eric in the first place
JUST
>>334924028
>pig mask
so Q is >>334911294 ?
and get's resurrected as a human in VLR?
>>334924348
>>334924028
THere's a point where you can see a bunch of vials with pigs in them.
My guess is that they were testing cloning tech on pigs, and Q is the first Human clone. I bet he looks like Quark underneath the mask.
>>334924028
>stuck with two insane adults that are willing to kill him at the drop of a hat and then probably diddle his corpse
sucks to be Q
I'VE HAD IT WITH PLAYING THE GOOD GUY
I'M AN ADULT NOW
>>334922225
What the hell did Sigma see
>>334898257
I actually like this one better, was hoping this would be the English cover art. It's more intense and evocative. Still happy with what we got.
Also, rated D? Thought they were going for Z.
>>334926581
You don't aim for a rating, Uchikoshi just said it may get a Z rating.
I fucking hate this game's Japanese font.
Is this game getting a physical release?
>>334920164
Man, I get that nonary games fucks you up, but Clover's been in three already and never reached a fraction of Junpei's current edgyness.
>>334898108
>>334896535
Which is good, you see theories discussed to death and by the time you play it probably at least some of those will be true and the impact will be lost even if u didn't suspect it. I wouldn't be surprised if we see in /v/ it lacked the impact of the previous 2.
>>334912676
Why is Uchi ruining Jumpy?
He was still optimistic as ever at VLR
I can't contain my hype.
Amazing trailer.
>>334927124
Well, she got superpowers, her brother is still alive and she gets a big fat paycheck working with her friends.
Junpei got stabbed in the back by his childhood love, got absolutely nothing from the entire incident and is chasing a girl just to see if he was just a pawn to her, or if she cares about him.
>>334927238
He doesn't really feel like the same character. Maybe it's the new engine not really being able to handle correct eye movement or facil expressions, but he looks out of it, as if he's drugged.
>>334898912
FREE THE SOUL OF Y
>>334927595
If anything, Junpei's powers are at least the level of Clover's.
>>334927928
Isn't he the strongest amongst the senders?
>>334927238
It's because he's Santa
>>334912285
Sigma is huge as fuck.
>>334928302
Powerlevel is something like Akane/Sigma/Phi >>> Junpei > Clover/Snake/kidnapped kids, I think. There's the thing about weaker espers amplifying the stronger ones, but Junpei could be stronger than Clover and she wouldn't notice since both their powers were absorbed anyway. No idea how strong Aoi is, but considering 999 and how he's mostly absent, I guess he's scrub level and Junpei at least is stronger than him.
>>334929008
Akane is stronger than everyone, isn't she? I thought it was
Akane>>Sigma/Phi>>Junpei>>>Everyone else.
>>334929243
If she was significantly stronger than Sigma and Phi, wouldn't that block them jumping around? She's stronger, but the purpose of VLR is to awaken Sigma and Phi's powers, and their new powers seem to be stronger than Akane's was when she was 12.
>>334929008
>>334929243
Akane is the strongest but she can't send her consciousness through time like Sigma and Phi. Still, she's the only one with the ability to see every timeline and retain the knowledge so she's basically just as powerful in that aspect, she just has to plan ahead instead of being able to jump away after things get fucked up.
>>334929420
>>334929462
Akane can't time leap, but can receive information from all timelines. Likewise, Junpei can't receive, but can send information to all timelines.
Phi and Sigma can send their consciousness through timelines.
>>334927238
Because it's not Jumpy
>>334929624
>Akane can't time leap
She can.
She says so to Sigma and Phi after they stop Dio from killing her.
>>334929725
Well I'll just go fuck myself then
>>334929462
I thought this too, but upon replaying VLR she tells Sigma and Phi that she can jump through time too. It doesn't rule out that she might just see through timelines and transfer her knowledge back to her current consciousness, but I'm not sure about anything regarding the nature of Akane's powers anymore.
I always thought the reason Junpei was kept alive and then brought to the moon for VLR was because since Akane couldn't send info to herself, she needed to see stuff through him like in 999.
I have no ideia why I thought that
>>334929462
>>334929624
>>334930347
Thank you, forgot about that. Doesn't change things much considering she was able to look into timelines anyway.
>>334930292
Akane still loves him, even if she's willing to sacrifice him in her schemes to save the world. In general she'd want him to be alive.
Why does Phi say she loves Sigma and Diana? She's only known them a week at most.
>>334899593
No, of course not.They'll time travel between clones of themselves.
>>334930910
It's natural for a child to love her parents, anon.
>>334930910
>She's only known them a week at most
OR HAS SHE
>>334930910
>orange eyebrows
>Sigma eyes
It's not hard
>>334930910
It's natural for a parent to love her children. That's right, Uchi is going to subvert expectations and go even dumber.
>>334931004
Come on, how can Diana be Phi's mother if Phi already has the Jupiter brooch during the game? Unless Diana gives her that at the very beginning, which would make things exceedingly obvious.
>>334931248
Won't be as dumb as when he reveals one of the players is Blick Winkel
>>334931248
>This is the twist Uchikoshi's going for
>Combined with Phi being trap Santa
I think I'd actually be pleased if it was this ridiculous.
Guys, there are cloned pigs. Phi is an artificial child created using genes from Sigma and Diana. That's why Akane says she can send Clover and Alice back in time.
She cloned them, and she figured out a way to send their minds back to their cloned bodies. That way, as long as a version of you exists in the past, you can go back.
>discussion about piges
I guess I get the chance to post this.
>>334931648
Then is that actually Free the Soul's cloning facility with Q (pig mask seems telling) being a Left clone?
>>334931248
Hey at least that wouldn't require any physical time travel. It would just require Phi to have had memory loss or either be lying about when she was first cryogenically frozen.
So does anyone even remember that the stream is happening in a month?
Are people still interested?
>>334932317
Ues.
>>334931949
Exactly. Q is a left clone. Carlos is left himself. Junpei was investigating the facility and got captured.
So who will Q be under the diving helmet? Are they going to pull yet another K on us where the reason you can't see his/her face is because their identity would spoil something were you to see it?
>>334932465
Someone called Quinn
>>334932414
There's no reason to make left clones if left is still alive.
>>334932465
He's the number 9 door
>>334932863
Only in some timelines. In the others, he's a quantum computer.
THE END WHERE I TREAT TWO
>>334931542
There's a reason Akane was so confident that she already knew a method to send Clover and Alice back.
>>334932849
He's dying. That's why Diana is there. She was supposed to treat his disease, but he's terminal.
When I finished VLR, I wanted a third game more than anything. These animations are abominable though. It looks so bad I wish they hadn't even bothered.
>>334933773
eh, it's better than not getting a conclusion. I already know this series is budget as fuck and has Japan's shit taste working against it.
>>334933663
Left was murdered, he did not die of a disease.
>>334933972
Left is Q and he was murdered by the Crash Keys trying to stop Brother from releasing Radical-6 because Left was murdered.
>>334933773
>It looks so bad I wish they hadn't even bothered.
You're not a true fan then.
You didn't really want a third game more than anything then.
>>334934075
Just saying whatever because some form of timetravel is involved in the story isn't going to achieve anything.
>>334898930
>>334911889
>WHERE'S MY FUCKING ANIMATION BUDGET, SPIKECHUN
>YOU WENT AND BLEW IT ON DR3, DIDN'T YOU?
>>334934087
Don't spout blatant logical fallacies to defend a bad product. It's embarrassing.
>>334934087
Don't respond to the shitposters, first day here?
>>334898951
>yfw Q is a genetic mutant whose "skull" is a thin membrane filled with radical 6
>removing the helmet ruptures the membrane
>>334934538
>bad product
Is anyone here playing this game for the graphics?
Of course not.
>>334934976
Stop responding the bait
He very well should have posted the Vita v 3DS picture.
Also Jesus Christ shitposting is on a all time high today.
It's better than characters just repeating the same 8-10 animations over and over the entire game.
>>334898874
Where is she pointing her deagle at? Its not Q for sure.
It looks like Carlos is missing one of his arms when he's saying he'll be fine and won't die at Eric
How come no one mentioned the HOLD ME BACK NIGGA part in the trailer?
>>334936836
Yeah he is.
He even has a tie in his left arm,also the blood.
>>334927114
Japan and North America are, but Europe is digital only
>>334936836
The electrified part in the end is where Carlos, Diana and Eric are standing.
>>334937087
Junpei was going crazy in some of the parts of this trailer.
I totally expect Akane to decide to sacrifice him at one point, since Carlos might be important to her plans, and he just goes ballistic.
What if she's the one he's punching?
what the heq is mira's problem?
at least we have a reason for eric to be so unhinged (he's obsessed with her)
I'm very suspicious of that scene with Carlos.
I highly doubt the Eric scene shown there isn't spliced from somewhere else.
>>334898802
Holy shit, Junpei went fucking nuts. His voice and facial expression are dead. Punished Junpei, indeed.
>>334895649
>those animations
>>334904770
You forget that she's a master ruseman.
I'm sure it's not hard for her to pretend to be human.
>>334919470
Maybe becauseSigma and Diana are her parents
Junpei is working for Brother (Snake) who founded FtS after Akane kidnapped his sister.
>>334895649
>Everyone freaking out or being edgy.
>Phi's just comfortingher parents.
Best girland probably daughter.
>>334927238
He lost his will to live until he met quark. He hasn't met quark yet.
So let's say Sigma stops the virus from breaking and creates timeline E
What then?
>>334939404
He'll swap back with Young Sigma at the end of VLR and let I guess just live life.
>>334939550
Where was this said? All I remember is timeline E just continuing on and on off the chart
>>334940148
At the very end of VLR Akane pretend stabs Phi inducing another swap between Young and Old Sigma. So right before timeline E starts I think we'll have Young Sigma back in his normal body.
>>334939404
Create a game series off his adventures.
Call it, Nonary Escape series.
>>334940286
Even if he did swap back, he might not have on the new timeline. No reason to think he will.
>>334939404
>>334939550
>>334940148
Something like this
>>334940753
That's bullshit, there is only one Sigma, not a "new" and "original"
One line=One conciousness=One Sigma
If Sigma gets to timeline E then he stays there.
>>334941248
There's a Sigma lost in another timeline while old Sigma is parading around in his younger body during ZTD. That lost Sigma is going to push him out on April 2029. Good timeline or bad.
>>334941490
This.
I don't get why people don't understand this.
Why the fuck is Japan getting trailers for this before the West? Japan doesn't give a shit about this game. Japan betrayed Uchikoshi and sales in Japan were so shit that Japan is the reason we almost didn't even get ZE3. The reason he got the greenlight back was because of Western support backing him up. ZE3 should be targeted to the West, since we're the ones who will actually play the damn game.
>>334941490
>There's a Sigma lost in another timeline
No there isn't.
> during ZTD
During ZTD Sigma is in his younger body, that's it because there is only one Sigma at all times.
There's no "while Original Sigma is doing ZTD, new Sigma is in the garden after VLR"
ZTD and VLR are at different points in time, so there's no WHILE possible.
>>334941490
Not to mention old Sigma is not going to screw his younger self over by living in the new timeline in his place while he remains at the end of the fucked VLR timeline. Old Sigma will go back and live out the rest of his life knowing that he sacrificed most of it to save the world.
>>334941847
It's being developed in Japan?
I don't know man.
>>334941847
Because the game and the trailers are being made in Japanese first?
>>334940286
>Young Sigma back in his normal body
In the mechanics introduced so far, you can only leap backwards on the same timeline, not jump between timelines. You'll only swap with your future self if your future self actually initiates the leap in a timeline leading from your present.
Timeline E might very well have its own shenanigans going on, but at least, you won't see VLR-timeline people jumping directly from Rhizome 9 to any moment after the branch.
Mentally-old Sigma will never become mentally young after a branch. He could, however, still swap with an even-older Sigma, possibly even one who has lived for way longer than any human should.
>>334941978
There is only one Sigma, no one is getting screwed or anything like that.
It's not hard to understand.
>>334941970
Yes there is. When Timeline E is created, the VLR timeline still exists. Sigma will have to go back to that point, even if he does succeed. New Sigma will get to live in Timeline E.
>>334942178
>>334941970
You're a fucking retard.
Old Sigma returned to his young body and pushed the consciousness of that body to another timeline. He didn't overwrite his mind, dumbass.
>>334942084
>In the mechanics introduced so far, you can only leap backwards on the same timeline, not jump between timelines.
No? You jump through any timeline you want in VLR, parallel ones included (once you have witnessed them, which is the same thing as "creating" point E).
>>334942178
I think you're the one who didn't understand how things work.
>>334942279
It's ONE Sigma at different points in time, just because he pushed out his younger consciousness doesn't mean it's 'another Sigma'.
>another reused track
I hope these are just for the trailers and they aren't recycling VLR's soundtrack for the game. I mean VLR took some tracks from 999, but not the room themes.
>>334942279
>Old Sigma returned to his young body and pushed the consciousness of that body to another timeline.
It's his own past conciousness, there is only one conciousness just like there is only one line >>334941248
Only one conciousness means only one Sigma.
You can talk about old Sigma and young Sigma if you want as long as you don't forget that they are the same person, young Sigma always becomes old Sigma.
>>334942241
>Timeline E is created, the VLR timeline still exists.
Yes.
>Sigma will have to go back to that point
No.
>New Sigma will get to live in Timeline E.
There is no new Sigma, only one Sigma and he gets to live in timeline E.
>>334942648
They are two separate consciousnesses of the same individual from different points in time.
>>334927238
>Ruin Jumpy
He's actually right where he needs to be if you think about it. He went from a socially retarded teenager to a bitter old man, cynical detective seems to be right in the middle of that. I don't understand why everyone has a problem with him, I look forward to punish Jumpy and him not taking Akane's shit anymore.
>>334937427
I think it's more likely that it's >>334919970
>>334942680
Old Sigma can create timeline E if he wants, he'll still be pushed by young Sigma back to VLR and young Sigma will take his place. The point of timeline E is for VLR Sigma to jump back to it, instead of D. >>334941248
>>334913826
Junpei : “What are you upset about?”
>Akane: “Because there’ll be no meaning to the most important lives that I’ve lost!
Hell yeah, finally a Junpei who is sick of her bullshit.
>>334942680
>young Sigma always becomes old Sigma.
Not in the Point E timeline because he will never go back to April 2029 and fly to the moon to create the AB game. If old Sigma swaps back with him regardless of whether Radical 6 breaks out or not, then young Sigma lives out his life normally in the new timeline and eventually becomes a different old Sigma, if he doesn't then old Sigma will live in the new timeline while young Sigma will be stuck on the moon after the AB game.
>>334942279
>pushed the consciousness of that body to another timeline
He only pushes that consciousness to a later point on the same timeline. Timelines never cross.
Suppose that:
the present can lead to Future-1 or Future-2
Past-A could lead to the Present or Alt-Present-1.
Alt-Present-1 can lead to Alt-Future-1 or Alt-Future-2.
If you're at the Present, the only way you can ever reach Alt-Future-1 or Alt-Future-2 is to first jump to Past-A or earlier and then cause that branch yourself.
>>334943008
Of course not. There's no reason for that anymore. It's like if at the end of VLR, Sigma would randomly jump back and has all the job done because another version of him that has already made that jump has succeeded.
Once Sigma gets to point E, he'll stay in his young body.
>>334943137
This is never suggested in-story nor supported by gameplay since you can jump through parallel timelines in VLR.
>>334942680
I get what you're trying to say, but I'm pretty sure it was specifically states that old and young Sigma "switched places", referring to their two separate consciousness. When young Sigma entered his old body in VLR, his old self went to ZTD.I hope you're right, though. I would love to see the same Sigma we played as in VLR get to live in Timeline E.
>>334943008
What are you talking about? The point of timeline E is for it to be created... that's it.
Nowhere is it stated in the game that they'll swap consciousnesses after it's created, you're just pulling this out of your ass.
>>334943275
That would make (old) Sigma no better than Akane.
