While people interested let's have a dark souls lore thread!
Please let me know of your theories.
This is my first time playing a game like this.
Siegward's questline is so clever done holy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IolJ6lJJrI
Is this the coolest cutscene in all mainline souls games? Catarina is hardcore
I think the "fire" and the "embers" might be metaphors for life in a dying world (ember is a very weak flame).
The huge worm in Smoldering Lake is the Solaire's sunlight maggot
Aldritch did NOT eat any other DaS characters besides Gwyndolin, though he dreamed of Priscilla
Vendrick is now called the King of Want
Gwynever may or may not be related to Rosaria or Oiceros's wife
That's all I got.
>>334862391
It's not really.
If you do Aldritch before Yhrom then you end up skipping the dialogue with onionbro because it teleports you.
Peep this shit. He's sitting right outside Aldritch's room. People say Alritch ate Nito but look at this fucker. I think Aldritch just ate one of these things at some point. Probably just curious about what they tasted like.
Did Ornstein died fighting the Nameless King? I don't see his corpse near his armor set.
Just a reminder that there is L I T E R A L L Y nothing wrong with the Abyss! Just give yourself to it, it'll be great, trust me!
>>334862297
ppl like buttsex back then
>>334862571
I literally just did this, and it only teleported me after I'd finished speaking to siegward.
whereas in my previous playthrough I didn't finish siegward's questline and got TPd immediately
>>334862545
>the huge worm in Smoldering Lake is Solaire's sunlight maggot
but why tho
>>334862545
>The huge worm in Smoldering Lake is the Solaire's sunlight maggot
I don't think so, when you fight the worm you can see that it's made of skulls and shit.
It looks like some undead worm and you can save solaire quite easily.
>>334862396
What is the significance of the red eyes?
>>334862391
It would be if you weren't locked out of one event and ending by doing one before other.
if you are saying its the maggot just because its spewing lightning you are dumb
>>334862585
I think that whole area is like a dream or something. Ornstein probably just did the same thing you did to get there long ago.
>>334862795
Abyss
>>334862779
>>334862758
there's an item description somewhere about some group of sorcerors or something who fought that sandworm and moved it to the smoldering lake
i'm now going to read the description of every item in ds3 until I find out what that was
>>334862737
Maybe they fixed it with the patch because I was teleported right away and found his gear when I returned.
>>334862585
my question is why he was still alive after you killed him on dark souls 1
>>334862578
Is that skeleton in the top left trumpeting?
>>334862795
Abyss corruption, all of the enemies that are explicitly abyss-corrupted have them.
Iudex/Champion Gundyr has them
the Deacons of the Deep have them
the Abyss hollows have them
the Crucified Hollows have them
>>334862226
REMINDER THAT THE GRAVELORD SWORD MIRACLE WAS GIVEN TO NITO'S ATTENDANTS AND IF ALDRITCH CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE A LIFEHUNT SCYTHE HE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE A FUCKING GRAVELORD SWORD
>>334862889
I thought it's just a DeS nostalgia thing to make me remember my PTSD from the Red Eye Knight on the bridge during my first playthrough.
>>334862923
>the Deacons of the Deep have them
Well, then it's makes clear that deep=abyss
>>334862994
Aldrich ate Priscilla, this is how he got her scythe
>>334862890
yellow bug pellet
>>334862391
yeah really 'clever' when the cunt triggers a fight where there's a good chance he'll roll off a fucking cliff and cancel the prompts for pretty much the entire npc questline.
Ludleth is the only Lord of Cinder to actually link the flame, the others got sidetracked one way or another and never did the deed.
He did it after his cycle was consumed by the Age of Dark, and all the fires faded, and his Firelink Shrine went dark.
He couldn't save his Fire Keeper, and so gained the strength to Link the Flame out of sheer willpower. He constructed and populated a new Firelink Shrine elsewhere, as a new beginning, for a new Vision
>>334862910
The one you killed in Dks1 is an illusion. This is from Smough's armor discription:
"Grotesque armor associated with Smough, the last knight to stand in defense of the ruined cathedral."
Supposedly, Smough was the only knight guarding Anor Londo. Ornstein was an illusion created by lady boy
>>334863117
>Aldrich ate Priscilla, this is how he got her scythe
He literally didn't. The miracle description says he dreamt of a "young, pale girl in hiding" while eating Gwyndolin. He did not eat Priscilla.
What was up with that alternate bonfire and starting area?
>>334863117
it was always made clear, from the moment that the Priestess says the same thing about the Deep tome and the Londor tome -- that they are both Abyss magic.
Also, Nito gets her scythe wrong when he makes it, if he had eaten Priscilla, he wouldn't have made that error
>>334862910
Item description says he left Anor Londo in search of the Firstborn, so the one we fight is an illusion.
>>334863160
thanks, bud
>The grave wardens of Carthus used these to repel a great sand worm.
>The worm tumbled into the catacombs, and proceeded to dominate its new home in the Smoldering Lake.
so the worm was a sand worm that went to Carthus and then fucked off into the lake when somebody sprayed Raid on it
>>334862585
I read from previous thread that may be a the stormdrake the nameless king was riding on. He somehow joined the dragon covenant.
>>334863214
>Ludleth is the only Lord of Cinder to actually link the flame, the others got sidetracked one way or another and never did the deed.
Watchers did it 100%, together
Yhorn did it 100%
Aldrich did it, retards can argue but item descriptions make it clear that he did
>>334863117
He literally had no way of getting to Priscilla.
>>334863332
>we've been arguing about this Nito shit for so long that you just called Aldrich "Nito"
Somebody kill me, Jesus Christ.
>>334863309
the young, pale girl in hiding shit was a metaphor for what gwyndolin was.
>>334862817
The world goes on without you.
I prefer NPCs doing their own thing if you go somewhere else.
Is it me or is King of the Storms theme a rearrangement of ornstein and smough?
>>334863117
He didn't "eat" Priscilla or he'd have the actual weapon instead of just a miracle similar to it. Remember that miracles are based on and created by tales/stories.
He dreamed of her while he was eating Gwyndolin. This is where he got the basis for the miracle from.
>>334863336
>>334863305
why does Smug get lightning powers then
>>334862994
So this means that the CU didn't canonically kill Gwyndolin?
>>334863421
Watchers did not do it, they were consumed with Civil War and never got to the Kiln
Yhorm didn't do it either, he ate the Profaned Flame and it exploded the town, killing him and everyone else in it, except the priestesses
>>334863305
Smough isn't a knight he's an executioner?
>>334863590
magic
>>334863590
Nigga, it's magic, they don't need to explain shit.
>>334863336
Or maybe he left then came back.
>>334863527
Or it was talking about the young pale girl in hiding who had the weapon he made after dreaming of it.
>>334863416
this is outright fanfiction
there's nothing anywhere that says Ornstein could turn into a wyvern or that even suggests such a thing is possible.
>>334863590
it was a pretty badass illusion
>TFW every invasion has been dudes with lots of help
Darn it I prefer being kicked by THE CHAMP to this.
So nameless king is the first son right?
>>334862678
respond to me plz
>>334862578
>This thing is in the Deep Cathedral
>It's also at Anor Londo
>The 2 places Aldritch has been at
>That appearance of skeletons and bone on Aldritch and this creature
It's funny that you post this yet people are still fucking arguing about whether or not Nito was eaten in this very thread. Seems pretty clear to me now that he just ate this thing. Hell, they probably keep them around as snacks for him.
>>334863537
Yeah, but you can still do the second to last part of his questline, and he even gives you a Titanite Slab. One event being locked out based on your progress is weird when you can do everything else whenever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrbZc-J0-Z4
posting best soundtrack
>>334863637
He was probably made a knight when Gwyndolin saw that Smough stayed where he was instead of abandoning Anor Londo.
>>334863763
Yes, and also Ornstein's senpai that he went in search for.
>>334863545
It might be. Nameless King's sounds an awful lot like Gwyn.
>>334862519
How the fuck is it a metaphor? In the DS setting life literally is internal fire.
>>334863627
Really? Why do they come back as Lord of Cinders then?
The cathedral got so weird
Imagine smearing that slime shit on yourself and then washing it off
>>334863805
that's not twin princes
>>334863627
>he ate the Profaned Flame
Where are you getting this from?
>>334863827
to kill him
>>334863714
>Gundy'rs kick combo finisher
>Gundyr's punch combo finisher
>Gunder's shoulder slam + punch/kick combo finisher
TRIGGERED
>>334862391
It would be cool if he didn't fucking die during the first battle he's in.
Dexfag here, stuck on Dancer since I keep getting one-shot. How do you guys handle her?
>>334863909
>its a halberd charge after knockdown episode
>>334863637
Perhaps it's been so long people deformed the story,fusing Smough and Ornstein into a single character?
>>334863850
Dialogue from Hawkwood implies you can be made a Lord of Cinder not just by linking the fire, but by simply being strong enough to do it.
>>334863594
Chosen Undead canonically kills all bosses on the standard route, no side bosses from the original game, all bosses in the DLC, and links the flame at the end.
>>334863870
His delusions
Yhorm linked fire and tried to remove Profaned Flame with it's power before it go wrong
>>334863916
Try not being shit at the game
>>334863946
cast Tears of Denial and she'll be incapable of one-shotting you. Only requires 15 faith and you can cast it at the bonfire, then rest and you'll have at least 2 chances.
>>334863850
if they had actually linked the fire, why come back separately from the Soul of Cinder (which is the collective embodiment of everyone who ever planted their buttcheeks on the Flame) in the first place?
>>334863870
he became a Lord of Cinder to extinguish the Profaned Flame, and in doing so, it nuked the city. Seems to me like he tried to consume it, but that didn't work
>>334863946
Stop getting hit and use something with bleed on it.
>>334863824
so when Smough takes Ornsteins 'soul' its not a malicious act motivated by jealousy but simply because Ornstein is an illusion orhollw suit of armour animated by Gwynn to protect Gwyndolin?
If Aldritch didn't eat Nito, how does The Rotten have Nito's soul in Dark Souls 2?
>>334864157
he doesn't. He has a fragment of nito's soul
>>334862231
>it's not necessarily true that Gwynevere, the goddess of bounty and fertility, didn't become Rosaria, mother of rebirth, but if we think Gwynevere was married to Oceiros (Divine Blessing) that would make her firstborn Lorian, or maybe a kid she had with Flann or someone we don't know about
>all in all; not enough information
It's all tenuous links at best but there's not really anything to dispute it right now.
I'm by no means saying it as fact.
I can add some more onto it, it's pure speculation at this point.
>Lorian
>was a Knight who single-handedly slayed the demon prince
Ocelot could count here. Would be prince, could be demon depending on how fucked Oceiros' shit got.
This is getting too much to continue though.
>>334864094
Pretty funny you mention it, I have 37 luck with Blood Warden Twinblades but I can't spin2win fast enough on her. I had to use my Estoc, pretty gud but I do not know when to stay away or go in for a hit
>>334864062
No, it's implies that you don't need to be a good person to link flame, you retard
>>334864027
>it's a "interrupt any and all combo cooldowns with random shoulder slams out of nowhere" episode
JUST
FUCK
MY
SHIT
UP
>>334864096
DINDU NUFFIN
>>334864195
How does that rule out Aldritch eating Nito's soul? Still a piece.
Nito got fucked.
>>334864090
The game specifically states he became a Lord of Cinder before trying to do anything with the Profaned Flame. They weren't concurrent events.
>>334862391
>entered the dungeon as far as the bonfire before meeting him in that sewer kitchen
>everything is ruined
y tho
>>334864090
>if they had actually linked the fire, why come back separately from the Soul of Cinder
Because it needed someone to do job again, and this 4 for some reason were the only good candidate
Is prince Lothric even possible with an ultra greatsword? All my attacks are interrupted because Lorian swings faster and has infinite poise
>>334863305
I could see this. Ornstein in Anor Londo was likely a replica that was conjured more than a simple illusion. You only get one soul after the fight, and it's the soul of whichever body is the host at the end. Maybe that Ornstein was crafted from Smough's Soul. Maybe that's why Ornstein is so gentle when absorbing Smough, but Smough just mercilessly smashes the worthless clone.
>>334864205
Nah, I don't think so.
>>334864205
no, he says "they expect us to seek the Lords of Cinder (paraphrased)! We're talking true legends, those with the mettle to link the flame! We're not even fit to lick their boots..."
being a Lord of Cinder means that you have the might to link the fire, not that you did it
>>334863332
Why's everyone looking at me
You just called Aldrich, Nito
No I didn't
Yeah, you did. You said "Nito gets her scythe wrong."
Do you see me as a Nito figure, anon?
>>334863320
Starting area is fake. Untended Graves is the real, present one.
>>334863416
This one
>>334856726
>>334863661
Or referred to Yorshka
Not so much in hiding as isolated
Gwyndolin would certainly have known about her, being all Darkmoon and stuff.
>>334864062
He says aldrich is a lord of cinder "not for virtue, but for might". Says nothing about him linking the flame or not.
>>334864157
The lords in DKS2 are reincarnations or some shit
Aldritch didn't eat nito because there is nothing nito about him
The only nito like thing he does is the teleport and thats probably abyss fuckery.
No poison
No skeleton sword
No undead minions
No magic swords
So whats dark souls 2 written off existence? The only things I saw about it were armors and that giant at fire link. The game also seems to know the old god's story very clearly which is the complete opposite of 2 that had nothing but shitty assumptions
>>334864306
No, his Cinders of a Lord description states that he became a Lord of Cinder for the express purpose of shutting down the profaned flame
What's the best bow for quality builds?
>>334864062
I took it as saying that people got to see Lord of Cinder as being a position of honor. The Legion burned together as their final act against the Abyss, Yhorm was appartently a pretty good fellow,and Aldricht simply was really powerful and everyone probably was glad he went to burn for an age.
I mean, if Lord of Cinder is simply a title,then what makes them revive by the bell?
>>334864437
How is she in any way associated with the Lifehunt Scythe?
>>334864476
Yes, Dark Souls 2 is not canon, thankfully.
>>334864090
Again, what is the source of this profaned flame thing? never saw anything with it.
>>334863214
Actually, they all managed to link the fire, thus why they're Lords of Cinder.
The real firelink fell to the abyss, and thus Ludleth recreated it. You'd figure this since they constantly refer to Lordron as the kingdom that fell to the abyss.
>>334863590
He was rubbing the floor with his little feet the whole time, pretty sure it was static electricity
>>334864480
And from the Profaned Flame: "The Profaned Capital was consumed by fire after Yhorm the Giant became a Lord of Cinder. The fire, born of the sky, is said to have incinerated naught but human flesh." Him becoming a Lord of Cinder is not connected to the Profaned Capital being consumed by fire, one came before the other.
>>334863946
Two hand your weapon. Dodge into her attacks so you'll end up behind her which will allow you to get some safe hits in. I did it with a Zweihander but DEX weapons should work fine.
Also, her grab/oneshot has a clear telegraph so be on the lookout for that.
why did onionman have to die
>>334863916
>>334863183
what? how, i dont understand how youd let that happen
>>334864350
>being the lord of cinder is linking the fire
One of the first things you hear in the game after entering firelink
But you just delusional retard
>>334864560
No, linking the Fire is not a necessary condition for earning the title "Lord of Cinder," you should have realized this after fighting the Lothric princes, who were explicitly stated as NOT doing so
>>334863827
I dunno if the nameless king is Ornstiens senpai. I figured maybe the first borns betrayal for the dragons is what led Ornstein on the path to becoming the dragonslayer.
Can you actually use the souls of the Lords in the dark Firelink Shrine thrones?
Also why do I keep hearing voices of someone crying whenever it gets dark?
did u know that my character is the strongest character in the series? weird but true...
>>334863527
It was clearly talking about hiw Gwndolin was a girl deep inside and was forced to hide it from the world.
>>334862226
I already married Anri, but now I have the firekeeper eyes.
What happens if I give her the eyes now after marrying Anri? Does it fuck up either of the endings?
>>334864350
Nothing in that sentence implies that you don't have to link the flame to become a lord of cinder.
>>334864706
Except they linked the fire you retard, the reason Lorian is retarded is because he shielded his brother from the flames.
>>334862915
doot dooting forever nigga
>>334864728
But can he defeat Madara Uchiha?
>>334864476
DS2 was an in-joke. Think of it as an extended April Fool's prank by From. Do you honestly believe anyone would unironically follow up his breakthrough cult hit game with a sequel that looks like it was coded by a team of monkeys from 1998 and only dilutes and clumsily copies the lore and setting?
Maybe the title "Lord of Cinder" is just like DaS "Chosen Undead". It's just how people who are expected to link the Fire are calle
>>334864758
You are not forced into anything by giving her the eyes, it gives the option for another ending but doesnt force you into it, and you can just kill her and take the eyes back from her and let her respawn to undo it anyway.
>>334864310
They probably expect most people to reach that bonfire by going through the kitchen.
But I know a lot that went around the lake because they wanted the items they saw in it only to find out it went really far out.
>>334864846
Port was fire tho.
>>334864659
They probably tried aggroing the demon to the roof rather than charging in like a real man. Near the roof are a couple of cliffs, but if you go down to the Demon first, there is literally 0 chance of this ever happening.
>>334864838
yes
What's interesting to note is that the Shrine Handmaidin the real firelink says something about a bell not being rung if you talk to her the first time.
>>334864846
dark souls 2 seems more and more like it should have been its own thing. Should have called it Knight's soul or some shit
>>334864838
Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
>>334864914
that's obviously part of the joke, did you really think an actual souls game would get a halfway decent port?
im bored
i don't want to play anymore
>>334864476
Vendrick is clearly referenced and the crown from DaS2 is seen in the opening cutscene.
DaS2 definitely happened, it's just really unclear what the timeline for it all is
>>334864208
I beat that guy with a +3 Yhorm Machete, i.e. a slowass weapon. Try rolling away from him instead of sideways.
>>334864706
Wasn't that in reference to relighting the flame?
Wasn't the whole point that those who relit the flames were revived by the first flame, in hopes that they'd relight it, only to have to have the unkindled ones drag them back instead?
What grants one the title of Lord of Cinder then?
>>334864706
>The two princes rejected their duty to become Lords of Cinder, and settled down far, far away to watch the fire fade from a distance. A curse makers their souls nearly inseparable -- Soul of the Twin Princes
the only ones of the Lords that DIDN'T link the Flame are the ones who rejected their duty to become Lords. Being a Lord of Cinder is linking the Fire. Here, objective evidence.
>>334864886
I guess what I'm saying is that right now I'm on the one ending you get for "marrying" Anri, but if I give the firekeeper the eyes, would that override the other ending?
>>334864784
>item description of the Soul of the Twin Princes
>The two princes rejected their duty to become Lords of Cinder, and settled down far, far away to watch the fire fade from a distance. A curse makes their souls nearly inseparable.
shut up faggot
>>334865054
>Vendrick is clearly referenced
>>334862396
No, the Pursuer's intro is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-6JG2Xd0u8
>>334864987
Dark Souls 3 has a "halfway decent" port.
>>334865106
i thought that was super weird at first. then OH IM BLIND, well you could have said that first ya know
>>334865096
yeah, and if you read the fucking thing, it says that the didn't actually become Lords of Cinder, they rejected the mantle of Linking the Fire. They're not true Lords, because they decided not to link it
The anon was wrong, but his overall point was still correct.
>>334864706
Wasn't it so that one of the brothers did, but other pussied out.
Read some theory that assumed that the whole plan of burning old Lords of Cinder was a contingency plan for the time when the next supposed Lord didn't step up for the task and when even that plan failed as the Lords decided to fuck off on their own ashen one is basically plan C.
>>334864332
Yes. I did it with a Great Axe which is just as slow. Wait for his 3 hit combo or heavy attack and then hit him once.
>>334865096
I wonder what that "duty to become Lords of Cinder" thing could be? It's almost like what >>334865070 says is right, good job fucking up your own argument.
>>334865191
You did find the Shield of Want didn't you?
>>334865054
>and the crown from DaS2 is seen in the opening cutscene.
Nah, it's not a crown, it's what the Fire Maiden uses to cover her eye sockets. If you look at both (I assume you meant the Ivory King's), they're differents.
I also think DaS2 is canon though
>>334863805
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0LdIZ8TWYo
If the Bell in Negalink never rang, how is it that all of the Lords of Cinder were revived, and that the Bell rang over Lothric (Greirat hears it)?
>>334862641
Thanks anon, great advice. This totally won't backfire like it did Artorias
>>334864504
There's a pretty stark resemblance between the two.
>>334864476
Drangleic is oceans away from Lordran/Lothric. It doesnt matter what happened there, so it lives on as a tale.
>>334865218
Good thing that all holy books are written in braille.
>>334865348
>>>>>>>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20XREf55X9E
>>334865035
So don't? There are lots of games to play, anon.
Why don't you browse /v/ for a bit to get some ideas? That was a joke. Ha ha.
>>334865191
Shield of Want
Why is the Dancer's ass so fucking fine? The lore must say something on this matter.
>Actual retards actually discussing whether Dark Souls 2 is canon or not in this thread
This fucking community can't die fast enough. Holy fucking shit.
>>334865195
All of the boss cutscenes in DaS2 were ruined by that gay ass "bloodshot eye" effect.
>>334864725
>Can you actually use the souls of the Lords in the dark Firelink Shrine thrones?
I'm gonna try this on my current playthrough.
I doubt it though.
>>334865191
Shield of Want
>Shield of an ancient king who was cursed by an all-consuming thirst. In the end, he was no king.
>The residue of the king's lust still smolders within this shield, increasing the number of souls absorbed when enemies are defeated.
>>334865215
Sure it does.
>performance issues like 1
>tons of people crashing by being near bonfires
>ambient sound fluctuating in volume constantly
>"unable to summon"
>floaters
>>334865467
i havent played dark souls 2 in a long while, did you kindle the fire on that one too? what was the fire doing all the way over there? I just remember sitting on a throne or something
Why in the hell do I see messages on top of the roof, and in the rafters, of Dark Firelink? Is there a way to get up there that I missed? The belltower is locked in that one...
>>334865530
Your game is shit, bruh, get over it.
>>334865469
i almost let that totally take me out of the game. like come on, what a fucking coincidence.
>The next dark souls will go in a completely different direction
>It's a fighting game
Who's your main?
>>334865469
>>334865678
It actually makes a bit of sense, since Fire Keeper's are blind, and perhaps you need to become a cleric before you become a Fire Keeper? I doubt she was the last.
That's what Irina was trying to do, at least.
>>334864725
>Also why do I keep hearing voices of someone crying whenever it gets dark?
Please elavorate
>>334865507
She was a handmaid to a goddess of fertility alongside Rosaria. Dancer got the hometown, Rosaria got the life.
>>334865645Messages that appear in regular Firelink also appear in dark Firelink
>>334865645
>Is there a way to get up there that I missed
yes. you either havent gotten that far yet or you missed how
>>334865725
>grocers' apostrophe
Holy fuck, kill me now.
>>334865054
DaS 2 is canon, but in a way it's importance has been diminished.
Drangelic is a land far away and the stories to first flame and linking the fire and all that carried over there and they started to burn people up too.
When you give fire keeper her eyes she says that far away in the darkness she sees hints of light. That might imply that there are other "copies" of the first fire other places where powerful souls are burnt, like Drangelic.
What I dislike about the Souls serie is that, even though it sorta builds up an atmosphere like a long-ass time has passed, there's no progress in the setting. Catarina is still there, as are Vinheim, Astora... In all that time thoses guys never improved their armor design or their science
Maybe I'm just wrong and only Gwyn had the power to sustain the fire for 1000 years, others just burn at 10-20 years interval. But still.
>>334865645
You can run up the tree next to the dead giant and then do a 95 degree jump onto the roof.
They might have patched it though, I haven't made the jump in a few days.
>>334865712
Champion Gundyr, of course.
Are other players displayed names their character names or usernames?
>>334865790
nope. can't get on the roof of dark firelink
>>334865645
You know the tower out the back you climb to get the firekeeper souls?
You can trick-jump off the adjacent white tree and get up to the rafters that way. It's recommended to do this at the real firelink when you make a new character for the extra estus and silver serpent ring.
>>334864880
A-a-anon are you okay?
>>334865540
>Ruined
Let's not get into hyperbole now
It doesn't matter though because the best boss entrance in the whole series wasn't even done with a cutscene.
>>334865712
Crossbreed Priscilla
>>334865840
Did it today, still works.
>>334865894
>literally lord of the rings
Too generic to be the best of anything.
Why did no one in Dark souls 2 know what the hell happened during dark souls 1 or before but everyone else in dark souls 3 does
>>334865830
I figured that the other lights she sees far away are stars. The endings of this game make it pretty clear that the first flame is linked to the sun, after all.
>>334865831
There's no progress in the setting because the world is ending. Catarina, Vinheim, Astora and Carim probably aren't even still around, all that's left are the undead who happened to be from those lands and were brought back to life.
>>334864476
Ladder dude's corpse is next to the Profaned Capital bonfire for some reason. Also in that level you find a DaS2 ogre with a hand where it's head should be.
>>334865725
I like to think that because Irina is the only miracle lady you knew, you just don't bother with picking up normal divine tomes. Obviously they wouldn't give you useless items like normally written divine tomes. You'd have no one to give it to.
>>334865749
this Dark Firelink business makes no sense
>obviously consumed by the Dark, but there isn't an Abyss anywhere else in Lothric
>bonfire is snuffed, but still links to normal Firelink
>bell didn't ring in Dark Firelink, and the Maiden didn't hear one ring, but the Bell rang in Lothric
>Champion Gundyr in Dark Firelink, Iudex Gundyr in normal Firelink
>Ludleth knows about the other's existence
>Ludleth knew Dark Firelink's Fire Keeper personally
what the hell is going on?
>>334865894
Too bad the prefight was ass.
Also if you did the prefight too fast it made things harder for you because fuck you for being good.
>>334865957
B team
>>334865847
It's the character name.
>>334865606
The performance issues aren't as bad as in 1. The bonfire issues was a massive fuck up, that's true, but i think they fixed it pretty quickly, right? Those are really the biggest wrongs they did.
"unable to summon" is also an issue on consoles if i remember correctly.
And that was the first i heard about the sound...
So yeah, overall, it's a "halfway decent" port.
>>334865615
the point of the original ds2 ending was that it didn't fucking matter if you the linked the fire or not. So why even give you the choice.
>>334862641
Does 3 have abyss anywhere?
>>334864068
Sauce on this. Gwyndolin makes sense, but he could've killed the butterfly and some extra demons if he felt like so.
>>334866125
Wolnir
Dark Firelink/Untended Graves
>>334865712
I'm gonna main Greirat so hard, that's my homeboy
>>334866125
You'd better start believing in the Abyss, anon.YOU'RE IN IT.
>>334866014
>Obviously they wouldn't give you useless items like normally written divine tomes. You'd have no one to give it to.
Yuria?
>>334866125
Secret Firelink after Consumed king as well as Wolnir's bossfight
>>334865958
>the sun
Remember anor londo and it's night sky and it's illusion of day.
I wouldn't apply real world understanding of celestial figures to Dark Souls. The world of Dark Souls is very high fantasy one where sun is as it is because gods literally put it in there.
>>334865962
Good point
>>334865942
Actual non meme tier Literally nothing like Lord of the Rings
>fighting the giant gaping dragon-rat demon thing before Aldrich Faithful
just fuck me up, Miyazaki
>>334865860
Run up tree near the tower door then jump right. You can use this to get on either firelink roof.
>>334862396
I loved that cutscene
The way he says "Yhorm, Old friend...", there's an almost shocked/sad tone to his voice, and Yhorm's cold stare back is perfect
Yhorm was actually a really cool boss imo, the music really added to the taking down a giant atmosphere, and worked really well with the stormruler.
It's a shame that Siegward died in my game though, as Yhorm went absolutely fucking mental on him while I was figuring out how to use the stormruler
>>334866198
So was it contained or what? Shouldn't it have consumed a huge ass area by now, considering 3 is god knows how many hundreds of years after?
>>334862923
So Siegward's promise was to slay Yhorm if the others who hated him failed because the giant knew he'd get corrupted trying to save the humans?
>>334865712
Micolash
>>334865545
Would be nice if it unlocked some dark ending but since there's no flame there I doubt you can do the ritual.
>>334865730
Well I'm not sure what triggers it but if you go to the tower behind Firelink Shrine and wait there right before the elevator to the dead firekeeper you can start hearing a voice.
I spent half an hour jumping down that building and looking everywhere for an NPC but there was nothing.
I just assume it's your own consciousness or something like that.
I just can't accept that ornstein in ds1 was a fake
You kill him and you get his fucking soul. There is no way it's a fake. He could have left AL and came back when the nameless king told him to fuck off with the flame since he's bro with the dragons now.
>>334865712
Stockpile Thomas
>>334866324
No, because if the flame hasn't yet died, it keeps the Abyss at bay (mostly). You need dark sorcery fuckery to unleash it properly, like Oolacile did
>>334866235
She doesn't want anything to do with the divine. Hell, even Karla doesn't want anything to do with Dark Miracles despite being a Hexer, but she'll do it if you ask twice.It is convenient that Karla can read braille though...
>>334866063
>i think they fixed it pretty quickly
A week, for a gamebreaking bug.
That's horrendously slow. I sure am glad I didn't have that bug I'd be furious.
>>334866026
>Abyss
i just sort of assumed that dark firelink is what is left after the fire as truly ended.
>>334865749
That blew my mind the first time I discovered it. Bloodstains are shared too
>>334866063
The biggest issue the game has currently is the one where summoned phantoms can't enter the boss door because like with every Japanese company From's netcode sucks complete ass.
>someone needs help with a boss
>they summon a phantom or two
>phantoms can't get in; host now has to fight a boss they already couldn't beat, only now with a massive HP increase
>>334866198
>>334866260
the Abyss in the Untended Graves is actually pretty comfy. There's just something very, very peaceful about it, now that it won't kill you instantly upon making contact with it
>>334866030
>Too bad the prefight was ass.
Nice opinion bro, shit but nice
>Also if you did the prefight too fast it made things harder for you because fuck you for being good.
>Game gets harder if the players proves he can take it
Wow wat shiet gaem desin XD
Also, one fucking extra knight spawning before the portal gets closed. wew lad, how do you even beat those odds?
>>334866392
Ok, I thought the abyss was just like slowly growing in area with time and there was nothing anyone could do about it.
>>334866198
Untended Graves is abyss? I thought it was just underground
>>334865749
>>334866502
They are the same physical location, both in engine and in universe.
>>334866407
My bad, I actually meant Karla.
>>334866508
Works fine on PS4. PC will always be an afterthought, get over it
>>334865606
>mfw DaS3 works better than DaS1 on my intel hd 4600
>>334866549
Untended graves is the exact same location as the graves you started in. Personally I believe it is either the past or a timeline where the fire wasn't linked.
>>334866490
the Abyss is the true, final form of Darkness, anon.
>>334866549
anon pls
>>334866548
the Oolacile Abyss wasn't natural, it was jump-started by evil magic, and perpetuated by a creature who was overloaded on said evil magic. The Abyss isn't supposed to be corrosive either, it's meant to be a comforting presence as it lures you to your doom. Like a drug.
>>334866339
I think Yhorm knew he'd end up insane from being used as fuel for the fire and gave his friend the mean to defeat him.
>>334866650
Not that anon, but I've had the same issue on PS4. Do some research before you talk shit next time, anon.
>>334865712
C. Gundyr.
>>334866026
>Champion GUNDYR at Abysslink
>>LUDLETH is at Firelink
>LUDex Gundyr at Firelink
I assume he thought it would be a fine challenge and somehow replicated one (maybe traspossing it or whatever since it doesnt drop a soul?)
>>334866696
it was a creation of Ludleth. There needed to be a new Firelink shrine for future cycles after his one got ruined by the Dark.
>>334866796
iud, anon. iud.
Nice try, though.
I feel like we may learn more about the one Yhorm wished to protect in future DLC. It seems like such a random detail, maybe it'll be expanded upon.
>>334866796
LUDex? It's Iudex.
>>334866685
There's no way you can run DaS3 on a intel HD 4600
>>334866796
>Ludex
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>334866853
I want to see more pyromancies from the Profaned Flame. It sounds like a cool new gimmick, maybe having bonus damage vs hollows, or something?
I want a beach level in one of the DLCs
>>334866384
