>Finally, invaders are shafted after fucking over innocent, unsuspecting hosts!
>Excuse me, who gave you consent to invade their world?
>Invading was never meant to be fair or even functional
Did the release of Dark Souls III coincide with a rash of head injuries? What the hell happened to this series and its audience?
Invading has never been fair, that's true. Invaders enjoy the benefit of knowledge of the level and, at the very least, a basic understanding of PvP. The host has the ability to heal with Estus, which invaders do not, in Dark Souls I & II.
In the past, invaders had another advantage in form of upgraded equipment. Dark Souls III's system restricts invasions relative to equipment upgrades, so that eliminates a lot of the invader's unfair advantage.
Yet it's incredibly common to see players say that invaders are at fault, that they're all assholes. What about people who suck at PvP want to invade, what about people with balanced builds? Should they be forced to accommodate Dark Souls III's invasion meta of expecting - and being equipped for - the worst at all times?
If you go human, you are willingly inviting the possibility of being invaded. You don't have the right to say that you're being invaded against your will, especially if you're summoning. The fact that "consent" comes up frequently in conversations about DaS III invasions if fucking ridiculous.
DaS III's invasion system should have been:
>No prioritizing players with phantoms over players without phantoms
>Using Dried Finger is the only way you're prioritized over other players
>Neither invaders nor phantoms can use Estus
>Weapon Upgrades and SL limit invasions the way it works now
That's all they had to do, and they fucked it up. Now PvEfags and PvPfags are at each other's throats more than ever. Instead of solving the issues of previous systems, it instead encourages people to become fucking assholes using dirty tricks just to survive invading.
The only good souls PvP on PC is now Dark Souls II
How does this make you feel, /v/?
>>334861435
No PvP is good on PC, it's just cheating all around.
>>334861545
>getting so absolutely assblasted at a hacker that you blame PC's as a whole
Only changes should be that invaders shouldn't be able to kill each other.
You're basically forced to be cheap
>>334859420
There has never been nor will there ever be good PvP in a souls game
Only autistic children who care about muh honor muh edgy invasions think otherwise. If you are playing dark souls for anything but PvE you are a moron
>>334859420
I think they tried too hard to make every invasion a giant clusterfuck of phantoms.
>The fact that "consent" comes up frequently in conversations about DaS III invasions if fucking ridiculous.
Invaders confirmed for literally rapists. Now the tables are turned, cry more you disgusting pigs.
>making my way through the catacombs
>get invaded just after killing the skeleton by the ledge
>invader spawns on bridge, runs to the far side (near Wolnir's room)
>make my way to the other side of the bridge, he's obviously just going to cut it if I walk across
>do the collapse emote
>he cuts the bridge, stands at the edge and cheers
>don't move
>he waits a minute, bows, then rolls off the edge into Horace's pit
>just walk around the side by Anri
dumb redfag
If you didn't play Demon's Souls on release your opinion of this series is worth less than nothing.
>Mfw I was having a blast until I beat Soul of Cinder
>Realise there's no fucking point doing any invasions
>Played for all of 15 minutes today
What's up with other red phantoms sometimes appearing as hosts?
>>334859420
> Joining a covenant and complaininh about covenants
> Not just avoiding using embers until end game
> Complaints of a casual
Git gud.
>>334861914
i agree with this
PvP in souls is essentially an extension of PvE, all invaders have a lore counterpart. They're basically a more intelligent and competent NPC invader.
>>334862330
Are you or they a sunbro? Pretty sure they added co-op invasions where you get an invasion buddy if one of you is a sunbro.
Forcibly invading someones game is literally the same as rape
Are you a rapist anon?
WHY DO THEY ATTACK ME WHEN I INVADE????????
People who get invaded have no right to bitch about ANYTHING, fair or not.
People who are doing the invading however, and bitching about chuggers and cheap tactics can fuck right off.
>>334862523
I'm not. What happens though, is that there are multiple "Host of Ember"s when one's actually a phantom even though they don't look like a phantom
>>334861914
>muh
>autistic
>edgy
Lmao go outside nerd.
>>334862416
Did you read what he said or just imagined it?
>>334859420
I fuck up around 95% of the people i invade, phantoms or not.
It's fine and fun right now as is. git fucking good is literally the real answer to people who suck at being phantoms. No, I do not run a meta build with a 1h fast r1 or ultra lazer or w/e, I just play better than the other dudes.
The whole point of this game's invasion system is no fun allowed. Go in, fuck the dude up, ruin his run of that segment. I killed a guy on top of the archive after the gargs, he probably lost 25mins of fighting his way up there. He had a buddy as well, fucked him up before the host in front of him. There is no better feeling. If people feel raped by that they can go back to playing other games, or go offline.
I agree with you op, consent is a missplaced concept in this conversation. On the estus part, I used to hate chuggers but dealing with this is so much easier than it looks. It takes a bit of practice, people will come around that.
>>334861717
>implying its not the majority of pc users that utilize shit hacks either for recreation or for actual pvp
I have 3 friends who do it ;^)one of them actually is a saved webm here
>>334861914
why are you so against fun?
>>334861914
>If you are playing dark souls for anything but PvE you are a moron
PvE can only be taken so far. An active discouragement of PvP because some players may not be ready for it is a cop-out for having a shitty audience. Yes, the playerbase can be shit and can be called out for it. Go play Candy Crush if you want PvE only.
>>334862768
loosen that fedora badass you might pass out
>>334862036
>invading in catacombs
>host with a posse of sunfags as usual
>hit the host to get them riled then sprint off to the bridge
>the sunfags back off as I break the bridge
>host gets shafted by a pack of angry skeletons
>mfw
do you get another way of white circle? I used mine just recently and worried about the world breaking
PC here
>Fucking wrecking you and your buttbuddies
>You run away like a pussy
You know who you are
There is only 1 way to fix pvp and that is to split pve and pvp into different games.
You cant balance pve at and pvp at the same time.
>>334862694
Londor Dark Ring makes you look like a host iirc.
What do people get out of invading?
I've played each souls game and been invaded a fair share of times, and either I die and just go get my souls or whatever, or thankfully usually win after some time wasting shenanigans.
Is it fun for some people to just impede other peoples progress through the game? Or is it just that they enjoy the combat and find the AI boring or something. I can understand wanting to fight other people into PvP but invading people just going through the story seems stupid.
Anyway I love how as soon as you get their HP down below a third the invader just pulls the plug or runs off into enemies and hides.
>>334861890
The host is an idiot for following you down there.
How do I get a red orb? The dude isn't showing up despite the fact that I have a tongue and have already talked to him once.
>>334863360
It's pretty fun fighting other players and just generally being a nuisance.
I like to invade in Farron Keep and the Cathedral with a Red Hilted Halberd and teach R1 mashers a thing or two about Leo Ring and hyper armor.
>>334863345
Ah, I see, it's a ring then. I was wondering if it might have been a glitch
>>334863360
besides just fighting, its kinda funny seeing people die over stupid reasons when they get invaded
>not unplugging the ethernet cable when invaded
lmao
every thread
>>334863587
lol enjoy that softban you fucking retard
one less faggot
>>334863423
how do people fall for that ring disguise anyway
how stupid can people be, unless that ring makes your summon sign white too
>>334863631
>Host
>White phantom
>Two blue phantoms
>4 warning lights
>>334863423
>phantom desperately trying to hit you when you're already dead
>mfw imagining the mad phantom laughing on his way back to own world
the best part
>>334863670
i think it works when you invade too
>>334861914
This depends on your definition of "good."
I would agree that FROM does not always prioritize PvP balance in Souls games. They'll nerf stuff that is clearly overtuned, but they commonly leave broken things in their games as well. See Chaos Blade in DSII.
>If you are playing dark souls for anything but PvE you are a moron
So enjoying invasions, probably one the most unique and dynamic video game mechanics in years, makes you a moron? Fuck off with that. Invasions offer so much longevity to the game, and they're fun as fuck for both the invader and invaded imo.
In regards to organized and "honorable" duels, I would say it is pretty unbalanced. Still, we find the game itself fun enough that we just play around or deal with the broken shit because it's fun."Fun" is the keyword, here.
>remove the ability to be invaded while hollowed
>still want to increase invasion chance for ganksquads
>put area-based invasions in mandatory areas again
>they're still unreliable as fuck
>give phantoms the ability to use estus
>lloyd's talismans are nigh unusable because the throwing animation is painfully slow
>bring back full eye orbs
>make cracked orbs drop like fucking candy
>remove arenas
>nothing suitable to replace them and if they do, it'll be completely dead like oolacile's arena
There needs to be some kind of mechanic incentivizing invaded players to hurry up and get to the fog door or kill the invader. It's too easy for a group of people to just camp out by the bonfire making smores and waiting, and apparently now black crystaling out of people wasting your time like that gets you penalized.
B-team game
>>334863817
why are arenas even necessary when you have password matchmaking
>>334863925
Lol get rekt
>>334863925
>dexfags
>>334863925
>not understanding how targeting works now
You're just fucking retarded lol
>>334863925
I see no problem here though, dickwriath got rekt.
>>334863925
>>334863631
we posting dumb invasions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GiGVi2P6x8
>>334863752
>Not recognizing the people you summoned
Thats pretty weird
I bitched a little bit at first about invaders being even more disadvantaged than they already were, but I honestly got over that after getting more used to this game's PvP.
Honsetly, invading into a game with a host+phantoms is fun. It's hectic, crazy, and it feels fucking awesome when I pull it off. These hosts and phantoms are usually so shit at PvP anyways, that winning these 3v1's actually isn't that hard.
I prefer this system to be honest: invasions for hectic, fun battles where I have to use my head and the environment to even the odds, and Red Sign Soapstone duels for my "honorable" duels when I feel like having them.
Being able to estus as an invader, even if with less charges, is kind of fucking huge too imo. You're basically granted more chances if you fuck up and lose too much health now.
>>334864161
it keeps happening
Stupid question maybe but can you get softbanned for the game crashing when you're try to interact with red soapstones?
I only fight people who have Phantoms. Or who are summoning Phantoms. Or people who attack me. If you don't attack me and don't immediately run to summon something, I'll just black crystal out. Because I only want to kill scrub faggots and make them uninstall the game.
>3 man ganksquad beats me
>They spam gestures
Wow, they sure showed me
>>334863479
>>334863479
You know, maybe before I shit on it I should try it out. I just beat Aldrich so I think im around SL50, where are some good places I should try out invading?
>>334864239
>Not recognizing the people you summoned
>expecting Chad to be notice who he's summoning when he's just mashing X near any summon sign he sees because he just wants 3 people to do everything for him
>>334862826
if he's the one behind Thor one, he's cool dude.
>>334864161
kek why the hell did he run THERE at the end
that's like the worst possible place to run to in that situation
>>334864530
Pretty much anywhere where people around your level should be going through. There's a ton of people going through nearly every zone since the game's still young.
>>334864423
>you can get softbanned for using the black separation crystal
>>334864161
>long ass video of chasing a single host like a retard only to end with him dying to mobs
What a waste of time.
>>334864161
>no seed of giants
>still getting hit by all that shit
>all that unpunishable rolling
Invasion is fine :3
>It's a "Host dodges around for 2 minutes with Carthus Bloodring while summoning phantoms" episode
There really should be an item like the Hunter Charm that disables rolling
>>334863969
so you can fight random anons without the fear of ganks.
Pro-tip: get Chameleon and get creative. Many shit players hide behind their 2-3 summons who clear stuff ahead of them. When they lag behind to syphon up loot and drops you can decloak and attack. Most of the time phantoms will assume that everything behind them is "cleared" and not bother to look back.
Works especially well in cluttered areas like Grand Archives.
My theory as to why so many invasions end up vs. gank-squads is that the majority of people who bought the game are just really shit at it and immediately summon an army of phantoms to carry them through the area upon reaching a new level.
>>334864530
That whole area after Sulyvahn is always active at practically every SL post 40. It's extremely popular for people who 1v1s and general invasions.
Other than, I think Irithyll Dungeon, Profaned Capital, and maybe even Irithyll itself are still very active.
Just be prepared to face two or more people at once. Don't be afraid to use enemies and terrain to your advantage if you have to.
Also, Undead Hunter/Duel Talismans are your best friends.
>>334864695
I don't think he'd ever been there before, I think he thought it was just hte way to go
>>334864771
I wanted the sneks to get him, but what I got was even better with naked ricard's dude
Blue Sentinels need to automatically invade regardless of covenant in the case of Aldrich Faithful and maybe Watchdogs while increasing the chance those two will get co-op invasions (like bellbros), and Mad Phantoms need to be able to spoof their summon sign with the white ring and also enter boss fogs (but be treated like a normal phantom once they enter).
>>334864938
The new invasion system prioritizes hosts with phantoms in their games
>>334864161
How about an ok invasion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5hoPBZktnA
>>334864765
>get summoned
>host is bugged
>use crystal
>repeat multiple times
>get softbanned
nigger what
I swear, sunbro'ing at Yhorm is a flip between the easiest souls and the most frustrating thing.
Why does the host not clue in when EVERYONE is using Storm Ruler?
Why do phantoms not clue in when everyone else has Storm Ruler?
>>334864765
>>334865031
You don't get soft-banned for Black Crystal-ing out (after all, leaving is to your own disadvantage). You only get hit for alt-f4'ing out or lag-switching as a host.
>>334863631
>full dark gear
>using dark sword
Don't feel bad desu
>>334863360
revenge for bullies invading their high school lives T.B.H. (To Be Honest)
>>334865029
that was beautiful
>>334865178
Theme-builds are dead. 8 out of 10 times you encounter straight sword R1-spamming great-shield users.
>>334865031
>nigger what
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Black+Separation+Crystal
You can literally get banned for using the black crystal. Better just roll over and let those 4 man gank squads Dark Sword R1 spam you to death.
>Invading in Irithyll dungeon
>Host is hiding behind his white phantom like a faggot
>Parry phantom and kill him
>Host shits his pants
>Runs away to summon more phantoms
>>334863360
Because the PvE game gets boring really quickly and having other players invade and force you to fight them is part of the game. It spices things up.
If you don't want that, then go offline. Invasions are a central part of multiplayer interaction.
>>334863310
I do love cowardly sunbros. Shit their pants at the first sign of damage
>>334863925
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>334863429
Help
>>334865429
>invade literally any area and every invasion
>kill summons
>chase ensues as host runs back to the bonfire so he can mash some more summon signs
Can you still be summoned by an area-based covenant if you haven't been there in NG+?
>>334859420
Invading a female player is literally equivalent to rape
>>334859420
I'm fine with all the changes. What gets me riled, however, is hosts with 2 phantoms refusing to leave the bonfire and come find me.
Like, come on, you have the advantage, come have fun as I try to ambush you.
>twenty mintues of standing out of range throwing down the very good rock
>they still refuse to move
People are zero fun.
I thought I could adapt to it since I love fighting alone against multiple people. But these invasions are genuinely depressing. Basically every invasion is like this:
>invade
>host has two phantoms
>keep getting them low on health without being able to deliver the killing blow due to insane estus flasks
>eventually kill phantoms
>host runs around while sipping his 15 estus flasks slowly
>host summons more phantoms
>eventually either die due to lack of heals or kill the host after a long boring battle
It's so bland and unrewarding. I went purple just so I can take victory in killing the phantoms but that doesn't feel like a victory. I love the 1vs3 but estus ruins the pvp completely.
>mfw newbie invaders are crying because their training wheels are taken offbeen invading since DeS you faggots, FROM's been doing nothing but nerfing our fellow reds from the very beginning
>>334865681
As someone who invaded his way to the Old Wolf Curved Sword, just farm the items.
>>334865306
What the fuck were they thinking
>>334865891
I don't care about the covenant items, I just want to shit on people.
Time to shit on some SL35 bitches in the meme swamp.
Hard to figure out how well bleed buildup scales with luck. It doesn't feel particularly worthwhile to invest in; does anyone know the numbers?
>>334864579
this this this
i use that ring and invaded a party of 4 people in the catacombs
they didnt realize i was a invader until i killed one of their subros and made the other fall off a cliff
>>334864429
this pisses me off to no end
>>334865306
yeah this is pretty stupid
>>334865874
Invading was the best in DaS1 even if the connection quality was shit most of the time. DaS2 invasions could have been the best if you didn't have to fucking grind in the arena for orbs.
Invader here, why is it that assholes like me are the type to not summon when they themselves get invaded? Is it just inherent etiquette because invaders understand each other?
I enjoy getting invaded, fighting a real person is the only thing resembling a challenge most of the time. I use my fellow invaders to test by builds...
Also, why is everyone using Dark Swords all of a sudden? The range on it is horrid for a straight sword and it only has a rolling poke. I don't get the love.
>>334865306
Are you fucking kidding, what the fuck from.
>>334864161
What a clunky ass game, I'm glad I didn't buy this shit.
>invade match
>"Unable to summon phantom" being spammed for next 5 minutes while you look for host
>>334863310
>estoc
kill
urself
>WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT INVADING TO BE EASY I WANT FREEEEEEE KILLSSSS THIS ISN'T FAIR NOW QQQQ______QQQQ
Whiny little babies shitting in thread after thread because they don't have the advantage in ONE (1) game in the series.
>>334865306
welp
>>334866153
>can't deal with r1 spam
ayyyyyy
>>334865851
It's so dumb too.
>invaded atAnor Londo
>host has a phantom with him
>I'm at 40% health no flasks left
>host has even used seed of giants
>they're too afraid to come to me at theGwyndolinhallway because of one archer that is hostile to me aswell
>stand there for 15 minutes
>Blue spirit joins the fun
>we kill the host and his phantom together
Wish I could say it was worth the wait. It never is.
I pirated Souls for a long time, so I'm completely neutral on the matter. Invaders in DaS were the most annoying memers with their git gud trash. But, fuck me if I wouldn't take them over fucking annoying sissies like this faggot >>334862609
You can fucking smell the butthurt from miles with these fags. At least the fucking butthurt invaders argue mechanics and use SOME (not a lot) logic when arguing.
>>334866132
because of this article
https://www.vg247.com/2016/04/18/dark-souls-3-dark-sword/
>>334865978
Then join Aldrich Faithful, or do Ringfingers quest.
But the answer is yes as long as matchmaking works out.
>>334865306
As long as you finish invasions more than you BSC you don't get banned. I've definitely used it more than 30 times on this character and I'm not banned.
Bit off-topic but how active is Dark Souls still on the PS3 compared to the PC?
>>334864161
Wanted the host to win in the end 2bh. That desperate struggle to escape and being gangbanged by snakes and phantoms while didn't even summon any help.
Rest in peace sonic Smough, gotta go fast in hollow hell.
>>334866150
pve is fun
Why are so many people on /v/ against invaders?
Are they that anal ravaged by that one time they got their butt kicked?
>>334864161
phantom backstabs are fucking ass btw
>Neither invaders nor phantoms can use Estus
I really wish this was true for Sunbros. It always felt great to be at the edge of death only to get healed by the host.
>>334866310
Ive been playing through on PC, all I see are occasional messages and not one single summon sign. I got invaded once in sens fortress and it was some 3rd worlder with the laggiest connection who insta killed me
I havent played PC version much because i got 90 hours on ps3, but I know PC version has/had 3000-4000 people playing daily before das 3 came out, dunno about now
>>334861890
Chug more faggot.
>>334865429
>invader is hiding behind (insert strong enemy group here) like a faggot
>kill enemy while holding invader off
>invaders shits his pants
>runs away to hide behind more monsters
>>334865306
Just use the white circlet or the statue in the Undead Settlement sewer and you're unbanned again.
>>334864161
>using gestures
jesus i hate you fucking roleplayers, thanks for the free hits
>>334866469
oops, I meant ive been playing through on PS3, not pc, my bad
ps3 is dead, pc might be a little less dead
>>334866246
Pretty sure it's mostly trolling. A lot of invaders have pointed out they like the challenge of multiple phantoms. The problem is estus flask in it's current state makes for really boring invasions.
Boring is not be a good thing in an activity that has no real gain other than fun. Some of the fights can be fun but that doesn't say much.
>>334866517
>says the guy hiding behind 2 other players
>>334866158
sorry bait, 0/10. If I was motivated by free kills I'd just be a ganksquad host and get them that way.
>>334864297
what do u expect u dark sword shitter
inb4 IM JUST COSPLAYING
>>334859420
Invasions aren't simply PvP, invading is PK.
Very few games make PK feel fair or even fun. WoW used to. Dark Souls never did.
>>334859420
I just invaded some people yesterday in Road of Sacrifices and had a good time.
Most hosts I met had a phantom or sunfag with them but I still had fair fights.
Honestly I like that now invaders when use Estus, because hosts have estus AND can summon up to two other players to help fend off enemies.
Not just that but you can completely avoid invasions by not using Embers. So if you get invaded you shouldnt be surprised.
>>334866625
>says the guy thats spent 4 games hiding behind enemies
>>334859420
A system in a game series was never meant to be functional
>>334862330
It's because of a ring I think. Makes them show up as a Host of Embers.
>>334866387
invaders have been making threads to bitch about getting their asses handed to them after invading.
>>334866517
I do this tbqh. No regrets, a lot of times they end up screwing up and end up losing the 3v1.
What I don't get is how few people use seed of giants. I got like 3 just visiting the tree during my playthrough.
>>334866561
>you can cancel out of gestures early
enjoy getting baited
>>334859420
if it makes you feel any better whenever I get invaded no one ever gets summoned to help me and summoning never works for me
>>334866659
>Scrub who can't parry so triggered by people using good weapons
>>334866584
Shame, want to replay the game after 3 but was wondering which platform still had some online.
>>334864161
lmfao this guy is so based
Don't have Dark Souls 3 yet, is the Moonlight Greatsword available on a first playthrough? It's always been my favorite weapon and I was super disappointed to find that it was limited to postgame/NG+ in Dark Souls 2.
As far as PvP goes I liked to use it to shoot lasers at people navigating the rafters with the painting guardians in Anor Londo.
>>334866801
I love using them.
Nothing is better than watching some faggot red hide in the middle of a group of monsters, then seeing all of them turn around and gangbang him while he tries to get away.
>>334866851
Yeah it sucks, PC would be your best bet, Im just playing on ps3 because I have every other souls game on playstation consoles, tradition yknow?
>>334859420
Invaders are so unwelcome even if you don't summon there are high chances a blue knight appears in your world to help you out.
>Lay down a purple summon sign
>Walk to the host
>Gesture in a friendly way
>They immediately walk towards me and try to backstab me
>Slap them hard for being such gigantic assholes
If you want a fight, that's fine. I'm not sure what they're thinking just trying to get a backstab on me like that though. I'm not gonna fall for it.
>tfw farming for Cathedral Knight set
this is hell
>never get summoned for wolf thing
fucking
Some objective facts for everyone to absorb.
>Dark Souls 1 difficulty
Completely fair. Enemies are tough but have weaknesses and will punish your mistakes accordingly.
>Dark Souls 2 difficulty
Too easy. It dies in 3-4 attacks at most unless it's a boss, and you have infinite healing.
>Dark Souls 3 difficulty
lol enemies take 60% of your health per swing. git gud faget
Why are u guys crying about black crystal? It should give some penalty, otherwise you could just bait people to chase you for 1min then fuck the fuck out.
>>334864239
>get summoned as a mound maker
>other guy invades at the same time
>host can't read who he summoned
why
Anyone here us the bandit knife? I really like it but I always end up against players with retardedly high poise. I have a shitton of health so they usually get a couple hits in free before I bleed them and dance around them for backstabs.
I like daggers but it feels like STR players with fuckhuge great schlongs don't get punished enough for whiffing an attack, the recovery time should be uncancelable.
>>334866269
Because of the stomp? What the fuck? The only thing that makes stomps good on great-swords is the range you can pull them off. Even a short-sword has better range and more utility than the Dark Sword due to the easier poke and faster stunlock. Alvira Long Swords out perform Dark Swords in every way. A Raw Alvira will decimate far more than a Heavy Dark Sword. I'm sitting here on 36 tongues being practical, surrounded by wraith memers dying using their trashcan of a gank sword.
>>334867128
you can kill the werewolf guys to get the covenant items
>>334867228
The real reason it's good is the moveset.
>>334867245
What werewolf guys?
>>334865306
>you can get yourself softbanned by using an in-game item.
What the actual fuck is the point of having an item like it in the first place.
>>334867262
>replying to yourself
really man?
>>334867172
Enemies don't take 60% of your health unless you have no armor, no health, no resistances, and are fucking awful
I must admit, I don't like how Phantoms can use Estus now, even if it makes co-oping and invading easier.
DaS3 has the best invasions. My dick gets hard when a host calls for help. I even go purple summon so I can fight the monsters as well.
If you are a bitch but still want ebin invasions go Aldrich. I don't understand why you would want 1v1, but not just go red soapsign. It's like you want the easy advantage of picking on a single person fighting tons of monsters.
Glad invaders have to use strategy to earn their kills now. Separates the goods from the bads and makes my invasions much easier since hosts get cocky and think I'm not going to run train on his little personal army.
>>334867337
The ghru dudes who inflict poison in farron keep & near abyss watchers.
>>334867372
its cuz people run naked and dont know that it fucks u up in dark souls 3
>>334867036
>invade anor londo
>purple and ald faithful fighting host and his 3 summons
>get close
>purple and faithful turn and start ganging up on me
>as I die I see the purp and faithful get destroyed by host and his summons
serves you right faggots I was just trying to help you fight the faggot host
So, where's the dueling spot this game? I'm surprised it's not somewhere near the Farron Wolf, seeing as that covi dries up past 40. Those guys need some help.
>>334867479
>running without armor
>WHAT I LOSE HEALTH WHEN I GET HIT
fucking autists
>>334867372
>i haven't gotten past the tutorial area : the post
>>334867452
This.
The new multiplayer is stupid good and does nothing but weed out baddies and babies. I've never had more success when invading.
>>334867567
The area behind Pontiff Sulyvahn is pretty busy. But it's not sterile, there's invaders and aldrich activity nonstop.
>>334867245
>killing 30 of those nerds
Fucking yuck
>>334867567
The spot after Pointiff I guess. Enjoy your repeating train of straight swords and katanas. Each exactly the same as the last.
>>334867567
I found a lot of signs right after pontiff but i can't think of anywhere else.
>>334867359
>What the actual fuck is the point of having an item like it in the first place.
To make it seem like you have a say in whether you want to fight in constant 4v1s
>>334867589
>I'm autistic: The post
>Invade in Profaned city
>spawn near the boss door
>host is around the bonfire
>make my way to the bonfire
>going across that one stone bridge as 2 additional dorkmoons spawn
>everyone but the host charge me at the bridge while the host fires arrows from a distance hitting fuck all
>lance gargoyle out of fucking nowhere
>in the absolute chaos I manage to kill one phantom and kick the other into the abyss, while one blue is wrecked by the gargoyle as the other blue somehow falls to his death too
>time for the host
>summoning phantom
>can't climb the ladder fast enough before the phantom spawns
>run back to gargoyle bro
>phantom comes and dies to me and gargoyle bro
>host still firing arrows ineffectively
>this repeats for several more phantoms until
>unable to summon
>rush that ladder
>host stands already there
>tries to kick me off
>fails
>roll around him
>kick him down
>mfw
>>334866246
Invaders have been for so long the smug assholes of the fandom, it's really satisfying to see them become the same kind of whiny crybabies as their victims (who always complain about invaders)
>>334866527
>statue in the Undead Settlement sewer
Does that work?
>>334867820
>gets blown out
>resorts to name calling
Oops, forgot I'm on /v/. Back to a decent board, I guess.
>become Darkmoon
>"Alright, time to make the guilty pay the price, just like old times"
>Darkmoon is just a different version of blue sentinels
>best covenant is ruined
Thanks FROM
>really enjoy getting invaded
>love the thrill and the danger
>relish my victories, and take the losses as they come to me
>go on /v/
>threads full of smug spergs who have their autism triggered by invasions and are aggressively anti-fun
>>334867567
I wouldn't mind the wolves getting much higher summon range, any covenant tied to an area needs it.
Can I pump up to level 100 and still get invasions outside sully's or in archdragon?
>>334867172
>Dark Souls is actually being hard for once
Woah
Do you guys think coop and pvp will still be alive in 3 weeks? Can't play currently.
>>334867452
>>334867669
Just out of curiosity, what kind of weapons do you use? I'm aware I could go katana/straight sword and beat 1vs3:s easily but that doesn't seem like a very rich pvp experience.
>invade host with sunbro
>they see me and gesture the "toast"
>fuck, cant force myself to just start attacking now
>sit with them
>after a while host gets up and tries to backstab me
>get up as fast as I can and they chase me
>sunbro coming from the front while host trying his hardest to backstab me
>manage to separate Sunbro from host so I kill him
>host tries to fight me and get near death
>runs aways
>before I catch him he jumps down a hole
>without thinking straight I jump after him
>I fucking die
>somehow the host is still alive
He was kind laggy and wasnt moving in the end so I dont know if he survived because of that or he was using a ring to nullify fall damage, but fuck I felt stupid anyway.
Still got reward for killing the sunbro tho
>>334867452
>Glad invaders have to use strategy to earn their kills now
There's less skill and strategy in just hiding behind mobs, family.
Which is what I have to do now because I'm at a 30% HP disadvantage under IDEAL situations.
>>334867670
>30
anon i have bad news for you ....
>>334867939
Nevermind the fact that no summons EVER.
Can't even hunt down the guilty like 1 for my blue tongues.
>>334868039
>I could go ss and beat 1v3s easily
nah
>>334867936
>blown out
Being wrong isn't "blowing out" anon.
But the only "blowing" you're familiar with is blowing your dad, so whatever
>>334868039
I'm using just a simple executioner GS.
>>334863194
>"I used mine just recently"
Get fucked.
>>334867939
>no item like the cracked blue eye orb to invade sinners
Why wouldnt you add like a blue eye orb or use the red eye orb as a blue.
>>334867172
The stunlock in this game is a bit overboard. Been helping people get through Irithyll and lost count how many hosts get fucked by the Pontiff Knights. Not even the pre-patch Chocolate Dragon Knights in DS2 were this amusing.
I'm making a new character and plan on joining the way of blue asap and running around with the fingers active at all times.
Wish me luck darkmoon/blueberries.
>>334868559
Their moveset is fun to deal with but their damage is off the wall. Nearly anyone at that level dies in two hits unless they pumped their vigor like crazy.
>>334867939
>fighting host and his two phantoms
>darkmoon blade invades
>expect it to be for the host
>tfw I found out he was just a glorified blue sentinel
What a waste of a covenant slot.
>>334868559
Poise is pretty much nonexistant as of now. People have tested it with Wolf Rings +1 and they still get stunned by daggers of all things.
FROM pls patch
>>334863360
I enjoy fighting other players, and being able to invade almost anywhere in the game creates a lot of really fun and interesting situations.
I find 1 on 1 flat arena type combat boring so the diverse environments and potential enemies/giant seed and stuff like chameleon shenanigans makes it incredibly fun for me.
Invading or being invaded just leads to fun combat that feels a lot less scripted and monotone than using invasion signs.
>>334868708
>glorified blue sentinel
it's the same thing you fucking moron
>>334863360
For me it's coming up with stupid cosplay ideas and showing them off in the field. I also get some sick joy out of beating meta-faggots with generally bad weapons.
And all things considered the pvp still flows rather smoothly and is fun to play if you're good at it
>Never really been good at parrying
>Decide to make a knight and go full quality build, no magic since it turns out my paladin build is trash since miracles are shit
>Mfw I manage to parry the first boss twice
>>334867214
>summon a purple with intent to duel
>Red invades wearing white ring
>Decide to team up with grape
>Invader just points me in direction of treasure and stuff
>confused but cautious
>Purple goes to attack invader
>Don't pay attention to the fight, just start killing monsters
>Invader wins and continues to point me to treasure.
>Get to the end of area
>he waves, toasts, bows, then jumps off a cliff
I was gonna let him kill me too since he was pretty cool. Think his name was Wroan of Farron or something.
>>334868691
It's not just the damage that I've seen, it's the idiots that run in, get hit hard and panic, only to get totally fucked by the range of their 360 sweep six consecutive slash combo. Add to that the random tracking spell from the other knights near by and the fire shenanigans from the witches when the host decides to fuck everything and try to run ahead.
I may lose 4 of 5 invasions, but every time I win, specially when it's a gank, it feels really satisfying.
There's nothing like the hosts' terror when his two phantoms die.
>>334869219
They even have the same covenant rank prizes.
Dorkmoons were already low, but now they've been reduced to blue babysitters.
>>334867567
Anal londo has a few and might be better.
>>334869197
Try Dragon Great Bow ganking in the catacombs.
Pretty fun.
Invaders without:
Alluring skulls
Lloyds
Poop
A bow
Hornet ring
As much bullshit as possible
Are doing it wrong
>>334863360
Because I was bullied in high school.
>>334869494
Catacombs and Demon Ruins usually the host dies by itself.
FROM Software has been ruining the multiplayer features of the series ever since the first Dark Souls with no sign of stopping. It's only going to get worse.
>>334862590
Apparently
>>334861435
>invading without red eye orb, soul memory and shitty """honourable"""" 1v1 fags everywhere
>good
no
Can someone explain to me how to get summoned for the Aldrich covenant?
I haven't ever been summoned yet I joined it hours and hours ago.
>>334868150
>MUH 30%
>>334867452
>Glad invaders have to use strategy to earn their kills now.
if only this were remotely true, there isn't any area where you can manipulate the environment except catacombs, and even there it's super minor
>Invade
>Make sure that the host sees me
>Jump off a cliff or tower so that the host doesn't get the satisfaction of killing me
hehehehehehehehe
Invading as a grape it fantastic. All you have to so is just kill one phantom or the host instead of just the host to get rewarded.
Someone reccomend me some powerful straight swords. I need a change in weaponry.
>>334863712
what do those lights do? don't have the game yet
>>334871015
When an aldritch faithful is getting summoned
>>334871015
they spawn when a blueberry comes in, and point to where the invader is
>>334871012
Lothric knight sword is pretty good.
Just use offline mode you retard
>>334866476
Summon more carebear.
>>334859420
>>334859420
They should just have a setting PVE or PVP mode and be done with it.
>>334859420
The squad ganks wouldn't be so bad if difficulty scaled with number of players better, but it doesn't.
>co-op with a single phantom
>enemies get a noticeable health boost, that's it
>doesn't matter anyways since their pattern, aggression, and other stats don't change, and player 1 can distract them while player 2 backstabs or slaps their blind spot
>game becomes utterly trivial
The way it SHOULD be is:
>enemies get 2x health for 1 phantom, 3x health for 2 phantoms, etc.
>enemies have better detection
>enemies have more stamina
If I've learned anything invading, it's that people are fucking scrubs, and will summon phantoms on their first try through EVERY area, and the phantoms will let themselves get dragged around like dogs as the host unlocks every shortcut and gathers all the loot. If I ever put my summon sign down, I expect to go straight to the boss.
>>334868445
>Warriors of sunlight, the fucking co-op covenant, get an orange tinted phantom when they invade
>Darkmoons just become regular dark spirits
I just wanted to be blue.
>>334869698
>Hornet ring
Is being good at crits really a requirement? Should I be getting sneaky backstabs or parrying? Because I suck at parrying.
Similar question, does Hidden Body hide me from other players more than it does to myself? Because on my end it doesn't seem to hide fuckall, but I am totally invisible to enemies.
>>334859420
>What about people who suck at PvP want to invade, what about people with balanced builds?
What about them? They can still invade. Nothing is stopping them. They'll be at a disadvantage, but that's the price they have to pay to jump into someone else's game and try to murder them.
>Now PvEfags and PvPfags are at each other's throats more than ever.
No, they fucking aren't. Literally the only people bitching about this are people who are upset they can't bust into some shitter's game and fuck him up the ass with a twinked-out greatsword.
>You don't have the right to say that you're being invaded against your will
An invasion is, by definition, against the will of the person being invaded.
>beat the game
>mfw realizing there's no point to online play in the state it's in unless I want to carry baddies through the campaign
>box up the game and put it on my shelf
I feel sad
This is the first Souls game Ive taken an active interest in the pvp because its not MLG shit, its killers and victims, as its suppose to be. The invader has NOTHING to lose while the host does, how the fuck can you complain that the other guy has backup, you have a whole map of NPCs and nothing to lose like the host does. Fuck off with this honorable duel shit, this isnt a competitive game.
Where are fight clubs hosted?
>>334859420
Get used to it faggot, if you want "honorable" 1v1s used the red soapstone or find a fight club.
>>334871497
I can't fathom playing Souls games blind with phantoms. Maximum overcasual. Places like Ilythis and the Dungeon are terrifying and it's great because you can feel yourself grow and git gud.
>tfw want the Pontiff Knight Armor set for Fashion Souls
>go from those guys being dangerous fuckers that can 2-3 shot you through shields to mulching them before they can react with a 2 hander
>Torturers are horrifying because omg muh health bar
>realize I can start killing them before they turn around
>they appear in groups
>this gets the adrenaline going motherfucker
>>334864161
I was wondering if the bad netcode was just on my end, but it seems that it's shitty for everybody
I have not fought a single other player without battling their laggy ass afterimage
The only fun to be gotten from PvP is using chameleon and watching the dumb invader run around like a moron.
>>334859420
>If you go human, you are willingly inviting the possibility of being invaded. You don't have the right to say that you're being invaded against your will, especially if you're summoning. The fact that "consent" comes up frequently in conversations about DaS III invasions if fucking ridiculous.
You mean:
If you go human, you now are able to interact with NPCs that wouldn't spawn unless you're un human form. You have the right to say that you're being invaded against your will, especially if you're playing the game to unlock quest lines. The fact that "consent" comes up frequently in conversations about DaS III invasions if fucking obvious.
To PC players that's not that hard since we don't have to pay PSN+ or Live to play the game and get those NPCs to spawn.
So this also means that Dark Souls cost 60 dollars + the price of POSn/Live.
hosting le reddit fightclubs is a pretty decent way to farm souls if you throw on the soul increasing items
>>334871638
Hidden Body has the same graphical effect for you as it does other people.
Obscuring Ring+Hidden Body+that one ring that makes you white is pretty fucking cheap.
>>334872051
Right? I know now why I've seen so many people say "lmao dark souls is so easy why does everybody call these games hard"
Happens when I white sign too, most of the time the host summons at least one other helper, and they somehow manage to die more frequently than phantoms despite having more sunny d to drink.
>>334872058
I noticed that it sounds like I get hit by the host and vice versa but no damage goes through. Literally happens 2 or 3 times a fight to both of us.
Just had this happen. I hope you die in your sleep tonight if you're reading this Joe Pancakes
>>334871638
My right hand has Estoc and great machete or great axe, left hand has a parry shield and it's a great combo. Hornet ring crits with the high damage str weapons will one shot tons of people I invade. If you want to practice parrying you can do it on the black knights that spawn after the champion, once you get good at that start dueling people with a focus on parrying. You'll lose fights you could win but the payoff is great, being able to wreck a phantom with a parry and make a 2v1 or 1v1 is crucial if you want to get good at invading. I hadn't been parrying much until some guy I invaded destroyed me with two clutch Estoc parries, I decided I needed to learn this ifvi wanted to win more. Nothing like going to a fight club, no one knows you have that high damage weapon, and then killing a guy from full health with the weapon switch.
>>334872348
That happens to me too. It's happening on hits that look like they should definitely connect, like the game drops the hit or something.
I really hope it's just high server load due to a high population in the first week or so, because it's fucking awful.
>>334872394
>Mom, put some pizza rolls in the microwave next to the router!
>>334872394
>>334859420
Git Gud.
