If you didn't fight and beat the crystal lizard the first time you spawned you are casual scum
Piss poor easy.
cute
>>334847217
I ran in got the item on the ground and dipped. Not having any of that shit that early on
>>334849148
Which is why everyone who avoided it is a casual
>screenshot taken, time to delete this thief character save file and continue my 25 vigor 40 str 30 dex warrior
>>334847217
I actually did, it felt pretty nice and it was a good start
What's the point of it being there? Does it drop anything good?
>>334851031
Just practice, and no
I tricked him in to rolling off of the nearby cliff. I play the game on my own terms.
>>334847217
I did and he was piss easy.
>>334847217
I died to him a few times, sellsword twinblades are shit. Killed him before moving on though.
>>334849515
Same.
>doing it as a depravedwasn't that hard, just a good warm up
>>334847217
Anyone who plays this series is casual scum.
>>334850330
Kek
>>334850330
I don't get it
>>334853759
This. Nothing like fucking with the mob's AI.
>>334851031
dropped a titanite scale for me. don't know if that is good or not, but why not take it?
>>334847217
The smart thing to do is not fight it since you have no use for the drops at that level.
>>334857549
the smart thing to do is not be a lil bitch a fight it
>>334857549
This. the scale has no use til you kill tree-balls and even then its meh unless your dead set on using a boss weapon.
Self confessed casual here. I beat that thing and the first two bosses first time. I beat that tree boss last night without losing any health.
This game gets harder right?
>>334847217
I beat it in first try while trying the game out on my shitty gpu at 10-15 fps. He's easy as shit. Sadly I can't play the rest of the game like this :(
where should I go after beating the crystal sage? I went back and looked around the Farron keep swamp area, I picked up the items there but I have no idea what the flame extinguishing stuff is about
I also found the Wolf
>>334857905
First thing that really gave me trouble was Abyss Watcher(s)
Killed it first try as a warrior.
Warrior wins again, baby
>>334849148
yeah lol I saw the video shit got PWND jesus christ fucking casuals.
>>334858078
You extinguish 3 altars to open the big door to get to Abyss Watchers. Look for ramps/ stairs leading out of the mud. One of them you'll find if you go right from the bonfire past all the basilisks at the beginning.
>>334847217
I sure didn't fuck with it but I know know I'm casul.
>mfw I went back after having a +3 fucking Claymore and STILL lost to it the first try
Never claimed to be good at these games. I just try.
>sign tells you to go back
>still go forward
Are you all idiots that cannot even follow basic instructions? Like everyone with half a brain, I ignored it.
>>334857905
Build?
>>334858450
Personally I like leaving paths I know I'll have to come back to. After work today I'll go take my +3 Rapier and go rape that lizard.
>>334858450
I've run into a "go back" sign before every boss
Moron
>>334847217
I didn't even find it. Hell I still haven't found it.
>>334858632
wow your region must be filled with pussies. Literally never seen that. All the messages I find are just a bunch of positive motherfuckers giving each other pats on the backs and saying "i did it" and shit.
>>334854393
>mfw trying deprived for the first time
It's not even that bad. That club is beast as fuck. Two-handing it is great early game.
The only people who avoided this fight were the kinds of people who overly relied on shields in the past games.
Rolling makes almost everything ridiculously easy. You have so many i-frames.
>>334858743
nigger what? It's before even iudex gundyr or however you spell it
>>334858743
For fuck's sake, man. It's right before the very first bonfire. Did you not explore Firelink at all?
>>334858632
The only other place I've seen one was with the two guys with big weapons in the crab forest.
>>334858450
Try jumping, friend
>>334858884
Crystal lizard is a new enemy though, so you never know when he'll launch at you with a crazy fast instakill supersweep move. But then he doesn't. He doesn't have any. He's slow and his moves are all really easy to see coming. disappointed.
>>334859041
Same here in terms of just generic signs put down by the devs.
>>334847217
I did this, but I did it by getting him locked behind terrain. I assume everyone else did the same.
Actually, I used the terrain every time I fought them, because they were always placed near doorways where you could just back into it, and do hit and run.
first run i beat him on the first try, only cuz' I started as a warrior and you can block all his attacks and counter very easily.
After that I tried with a sellsword, didn't work as well.
>>334858964
>>334858973
Probably the only place I didn't explore, that early area. Hell it's probably lucky I didn't retard my way past the ashen flask.
The real casual scum are the people who took more than 3 attempts to kill Pontiff. I've been crying me eyes out with laughter over the past few days reading peoples' complaints about that pissant.
>>334847217
If you wasted any time fighting this crap in this particular section of the game you are a bloody retard.
bloody
>>334851031
Drops something you won't need for a good while. It's meant to be a boss you go back to after a while but it's more than easy to beat.
I found it easier than that ACTUAL first boss which fucked me up way more. It just has a bigger health pool so it takes a while longer.
>>334859397
explain why please.
>>334855076
He didn't actually beat the crystal lizard with that thief character, he just walked up and took the screenshot.
So how viable are luck builds in the game? The game doesn't really show luck scaling so I don't know how well changing weapons to Hollow works.
>>334850134
>Avoid a high level shiny new entity in a beginning of the game is casual
Wow you must be a scrub to not challenge this deplorable monster.
>>334859287
Oh yeah me too lol
And the abyss watchers. Fucking keked did this guys in my first time with a bro I summoned.
>>334847217
If you deviate from the main path you're just a weeb normie
>>334859441
I skipped the early game one based on one glimpse of his back spikes from around a corner. then i ran into the one in the shortcut between Farron Keep and the Giant crab swamp and I killed it in one try. I was very disappointed.
>>334859559
I'd like to ask this question as well. I went deprived, pumped points into strength, dex, vigor, some in vitality, and then 5 into luck.
So far I'm getting better drops but I'd like to know the cutoff to when it's going to be fully and utterly useless. So far I'm at 15.
>>334859594
I haven't summoned once. I killed Abyss Watchers 2nd attempt, Pontiff 3rd attempt. Are people really this bad? I should try PvP.
So I noticed I'm dodging through shit like I was playing Bloodborne still, to the point where I'm not actually using a shield for my left hand.
Did I get good or does rolling at 45% equip load have six fuckloads of i-frames?
>>334859129
I know. When I figured out he was the new Titanite Demon I expected later ones to get incredibly hard.
But no.... they don't.
>Go all in as a pyromancer
>Put cross bow in off hand.
>Back pedal and and poke
>Hosts can do literally nothing to me
I feel like cheating.
>They finally get enough of my shit and come charingg in
>Switch to dagger and small shield
>Parry punish
>>334859287
>Using a Large Club
>Pontiff goes to summon his clone
>ROAR
>Two hand that shit, smash his face in, wreck his clone before it even moves
>He freaks out, then tries to summon another one
From needs to patch that shit. Either have his clone move ASAP or have Pontiff take reduced damage when cloning. It was a great fight too but that part broke it.
>>334859746
Abyss Watchers were a real fucking bitch for me for some reason. It wasn't so much the difficulty of the fight itself after awhile, I got the hang of it, I guess I just ended up really under leveled, because the amount of damage I was taking left me so little room for error, I just kept dying.
>>334859806
fast rolls are 30%, mid rolls are 70%
>>334859806
Yeah, I've virtually stopped using shields at this point. It's just needless equip-load.
It's such a fucking breath of fresh air after Dark Souls 2 and having to pump points into a skill dedicated to it just to not get shockwaved by some shitty move.
>>334859559
>>334859724
Poison, bleed are scaled based on luck
Hollow weapons are scaled based on luck
Same as everything else it's basically all or nothing, invest a lot or nothing, don't go halfway
I don't think you can be more casual than me. I literally summon at least 2 sunbros at every single bonfire. I don't think iv'e beaten any boss outside of the tutorial boss without help. Same with exploring, i make them kill shit while i go around and loot items. Shits pretty baller i don't really have to do anything and i'm still gonna beat the game. I love abusing game mechanics.
>>334859724
Well I hate to say it anon, but someone is just going to have to make the plunge. I might just have to join the Fingers if it turns out to be fucking worthless.
What's the earliest you can get a Hollow Gem? The wiki says the crow hollows in Crucifiction Woods drop them but I've only ever seen the Shriving Stones.
>>334859806
I run a tank build and even fatrolling has enough i-frames that it's decently viable.
Honestly BB fucked me up on some parts because dodging INTO attacks isn't nearly as useful in this game since you can't follow up with an attack and then dodge again so easily.
>>334859954
The clone isn't meant to move far, that's the point. You're right about the other stuff though.
>>334847217
Fought it today with a new pyro character. I really had it easy when I started as warrior for my first run
OKAY BLUE SENTINELS, WE NEED TO TALK.
YOUR ONLY JOB IS TO KILL THE RED PHANTOM, IF YOU SUCK AT PVP JUST STOP BEING A BLUE SENTINEL. YOU ARE WORTHLESS TO ME
>>334860220
>dodging INTO attacks isn't nearly as useful in this game
Yeah I fucking noticed. Here I am being an MLG super cock dodging through literal gigantic fists and I can only get minimal punishments on it.
>>334859397
it takes like a minute tops
>>334859075
Under rated post
>>334860121
Oh well. It does take some of the fun away from the game at least to me but if that's how you enjoy it then do it. Bro-oping was fun as hell in Dark Souls 2 but I used it more for the shitty mobs the game would throw at you.
That and the game pretty much shut out bosses to you if you didn't join certain clans. I'm looking at you Gargoyles and that Rat fucker.
i beat this with my bare hands and then at firelink shrine i kicked that weeaboo peasant off a cliff and stole his shit
>>334860338
>currently blue sentinel
>haven't been summoned once
Holy shit it's like I'm playing Dark Souls 2 all over again!
>>334859397
Easy as fuck and you don't have to come back later to do it. Suck it, britbong, git gud at video games. I know it's hard with that muslim cock down your throat.
>>334860057
Good to know then. Guess I'll keep pumping points. I've already put 5 into it might as well keep going. At least I'll get some decent drops and effects for my weapons.
Although in reality I'll probably just have a really poor build by end game but whatever. I've never been into min/maxing.
>>334859746
>not playing the game as it was intended
Kek
>>334860418
No it doesn't. One minute just to reach it. 5 to kill it.
>>334860519
I still fucking lost to him.
I couldnt get his parry timing down.
So what's the new system in place to keep twinks from tearing apart virgin assholes?
>muh dark souls is hard meme
I want this meme to die
>>334859041
>mfw i led them into the crabs then finished them when they had low enough hp
>mfw the skeletons met the fire demon in the catacombs
>>334861057
>not playing the game the objectively more fun and challenging way.
The bosses are designed to be fought with their attention on one player. You can call it playing the game "as intended." I call it playing the game "with crutches."
>>334860562
>>334860338
>Only been summoned once
>In fucking irythill dungeon
>Right in front of two fucking jailers
>Can see the invader running at me
Sorry guy, you're on your own.
>>334860519
Yeah no you didn't. You're clearly one of those retards who can't handle katana users. kek
>>334847217
if you didn't play the game blindfolded and a midget gnawing on your dick, fucking kill yourself you piece of shit-bitch. how do you even breath? I CAN'T BELIEVE CASUAL SCUM LIKE YOU EVEN EXISTS GOD FUCKING DAMNIT I WANT SCREENSHOTS OF YOU PLAYING NAKED WITH A GODAMN GUN IN YOUR MOUTH LEVEL 1 BEATING THE FINAL BOSS YOU SHITTER
>>334861454
Not all of it, but you're not going to tell me with any amount of credibility that Manus or Artorias, or the Fume Knight are easy fights, for one.
>>334847217
>not doing this on every build
it's got an easy moveset and can't one-shot you
>>334861527
I call it completing all the achievements because my backlog is fuckhuge and I don't want to waste my time on this game the rest of my life.
Getting really tired of the Souls franchise.
>>334861454
I agree with Dark Souls 1 and 3. They're punishing if you don't just focus on patterns and fucking with the AI to your advantage. Otherwise it's very fair.
Dark Souls 2 had lots of bullshit sections and coupled with it's "gotta level a skill that used to come as normal" bullshit I'd say most going into it not familiar with any of the Souls games probably just summoned like motherfuckers.I know I did.
>>334861728
It's also a sponge damage this early on and the reward isn't worth it.
>>334861703
What the fuck? they are easy anon
Answer me this, can you use a single handed hammer, like in DS2?
And there is a shotel in this one as well, right?
I kind of have a thing going
>>334861905
you're right next to a bonfire, it's the only part of that shitty tutorial zone that's engaging
>Expect the first area to be hell
>its easy as piss
I killed the lizard and the tutorial boss on the same go. So far all the bosses are piss easy.
>>334861557
>>334861557
Fucking tower of latria, at least they arent as bad as mindflayers
>>334861557
>>334860562
i played as blue sentinel/darkmoon blade until halfway through NG+, and i got summoned probably 40-50 times.
>>334849148
This
>>334847217
So beat the deacons and big spooky skelly guy and can't seem to get patches to show up in the cathedral or at firelink. Any idea on what to do?
>>334861527
No one gives a shit what you call the game
>>334859582
>All his attacks are predictable and ez to dodge
>Titanite and souls
Anyone who doesn't is a casul
>>334861981
blacksmith hammer and like 3 different shotels
>>334862002
More like no part of that tutorial is engaging. Just move on.
There are areas where this guy will cross your path. I would suggest you fighting them there.
>>334847217
>pretending to not use a shield against said creature and playthrough
>casual calling others casual
Git gud
>>334862224
lol don't be angry
>>334862121
Buy the 20000 key from the store lady and use it out back. He should try to fuck you on the way
>>334862352
I fight them when I see them
there is no reason to avoid the lizard in the tutorial zone as it nets you a decent amount of souls at such an early point in the game
you can always go back later and kill it for the upgrade material but the souls will be less valuable
>>334861620
>no I didn't
get good you fucking shitter. if you bait him to the edge, wait for him to swing, then kick him, he drops right off.
I didn't even know it was there until my 2nd playthrough.
>>334862059
Quick question then, do you need to be embered to do it?
I don't stay in ember form long since I'm a shitter. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong.
>>334861779
Oh, shit, I thought you were bad, but you're just too busy to play it right. Holy shit man, it's like I'm back in third grade with the kid who says he can actually do backflips for real but he's too tired right now
How do you parry in this game? I keep taking chip damage instead of parrying, even against R1 spam. What's the point of parry if it never works.
>>334858851
i thought two handing it felt dumb, the damage increase was minimal
>turn back
>d'oooohkay
>>334861981
As far as I know every weapon in the game can be singled handed.
>>334847217
I killed it first try and got the game first day I STILL HAVE YET TO FINISH THE GAME
>>334858351
Better than pretending you're some kinda pro
>>334862515
not him but i shielded the first encounter with him, got rekt, ran back to bonfire to recoup, then steamrolled him when twohanded my weapon. Not half as hard tit demons from ds1 since you are out of his range after a single roll without even abusing iframes
>mfw i died with 1 hit left
rip me
>>334862741
I liked it's moveset version more.
Just preference I guess.
>>334862709
>never works
there's your problem. You're timing it wrong, fag. Timing's somewhere between DS1 parries and DS2. It's more intuitive than in 2, but a bit more challenging than in 1.
>>334859287
I died more than 3 times against him but i was running ultra greatsword and no shield but once i learnd his attacks he was easy.
>>334862525
Already had it. I've talked with onion bro down in the well so idk what I'm doing wrong. Beat the spooky skelly before the deacons that wouldn't mess with him appearing would it?
>used dark sword
>used broad sword
>uses grass crest in pvp
>used fallen knight set
>unironically died to Iudex Gundyr at least once
>unironically died to Vordt
>unironically died to Old Demon King at least once
>had trouble with the katana master
>had trouble with pontiff knights
>flat out can't parry
>hasn't soloed every boss at least once yet
>needing to summon at all
What are the other signs of an absolute shitter?
>>334859129
He actually has one sweep left-to-forwardright that can catch you by suprise exactly once.
>>334847217
I tried fighting him, but chickened out halfway in and started running.
He kept following me all the way out of his cave, so I baited him out to the cliffside and he rolled right off. It's SUPER fucking easy to do. You still get the drop off him.
>>334862709
If you're taking chip damage you're not doing it right.
You're off by a bit. It's a very small window.
It's why I generally just backstab and move on but by god does it feel good when you pull it off and git gud at it.
>>334847217
I did and I killed first try
>>334863043
On my playthrough, he just appeared on the top floor right side and started grovelling at me and im just confused as shit. Never met him once
>>334862709
I've found 3's parrying to be the easiest.
Maybe try carrying a light parry shield for when you need it, they seem to have a bigger window.
I use Target Shield.
>>334863127
Haha I know right? I HATE [common/popular thing]
>>334863335
Hmm guess I'll continue onwards and wairlt for him to show up then
>tfw didn't even die til I got to undead settlement
>now I get spanked by the archers trying to climb up the area past all the dead giants and fireball dudes
>seriously can't get past these fucking niggers since they fucking pin me to the wall in one shot
Fuck. Maybe I'm under leveled.
>>334863127
mfw i just happened to pick up dark sword and used it by chance
if only i had known at the time
>>334863448
genuine 10/10 shitter detected
>>334853759
>>334855730
Arrowing so many of the skeletons in the catacombs, they just fuck right off the ledges and some even fall right through walls, its great.
>>334863127
>needing to summon at all
It's my cardinal rule for this game that I'm going to not do this so far.I know I'm going to violate that on Abyss Watchers since they'll be violating my ass in oh so many ways
I still allow myself to be summoned for easy souls, helping people, and learning bosses.
>>334857807
>>334853963
>>334850134
>>334849148
bad dark souls community
>>334849515
>>334850415
>>334852932
>>334854156
>>334854393
good dark souls community
>>334862658
no you don't but being embered will get you invaded which will throw you out of the queue to be summoned.
if the sign is pulsing white it's working, but thew other thing is you have to be in an area where you can be invaded/summon people for it to work as well
>just beat dancer first try solo
What? I thought dancer was supposed to be hard?
Dem Carthus rings tho nearly got one shot being stupid. Thanks blood ring.
>>334863759
Hey homie I would probably invade and gesture at you (not necessarily a bow) but I would not expose myself to attack and I would not expect you to respond in kind, see you on the battlefield fellow unkindled.
>>334847217There was a crystal lizard at the start?
>>334863690
They are easy dude just let them kill eachother til he practically near death than fuck his fire sword up.
>>334857841
It's really helpful for upgrading the tree spear which is one of the best weapons to have early as a summoned phantom because free healing.
>>334863127
Caring how other people play games to have fun with them. Literally the worst opinion you can have. its fucking pathetic.
>>334863568
you're supposed to just run up and roll under the arrows
>>334863764
>if the sign is pulsing white it's working
Oh good, thanks. I kept wondering what the hell that blinking meant. I thought it meant I wasn't doing something right since I still hadn't been summoned.
>>334847217
I did. Started as Deprived and didnt level up for the sake of having a real challenge. Also no shields, only dodging and parrying.
Been having fun and so far only AbyssWatchers and Old Demon King made me actually take it serious.
Though sometimes dying to one or two hits by normal enemies is annoying.
>>334864002
yeah, you're not being summoned because all the shitters dropped way of blue for sunbros or whichever invasion covenant they wanted.
i'm SL120 and still get summoned/summon blues every once in a while though. if you ant to help out, then throw on way of blue when you're gonna summon phantoms to help you out or something.
>>334861454
Ever since Demon's Souls the difficulty has steadily been lowered.
That's not just nostalgia either, i went back and tried it and those skeletons still destroy my ass harder than life itself.
>>334864430
Your failure to learn how to parry doesnt make the game harder. Demons Souls was the best in the series because it didn't try its heart out to be hard.
>>334864430
I'm the opposite. I found demons souls easier than all the dark souls games.
>>334864178
>if you want to help out, then throw on way of blue when you're gonna summon phantoms to help you out or something.
Like I posted before though I haven't summoned once yet and I don't want to.
I just throw down my white soapstone for weary travelers. It's a shame though because you're most likely very right. I don't know where the sunbros are yet but I'd have probably already joined them if I knew where to do it.
Sentinels all the way for now though. Here's hoping I get summoned eventually.
>>334847217
Guys how important is stamina? Been upgrading only my vigor and vitality while using a raw weapon since I don't want to decide on what to build now. Is it DaS or BB's level of usefulness?
Also when can I find some scythes or curved swords that don't come in pairs? I just beat Vordt and want something like the scimitar instead of twinblades.
>>334864830
great scythe is found in the next area
>>334864830
1-handing the twinblades is literally just the scimitar
>>334864830
Stamina is the most important anything that you have.
The more dodging potential you have the more the game get easier.
If you've got enough of that sweet, sweet green bar then you're good.
Red bar need not apply at that point.
>>334864780
Sunbros are in the settlement. Just look throughly, you only need to fall in a certain place then open a door.
>>334865174
True, but in BB you had enough to spam rolls and attacks without ever needing to upgrade through the whole game. Most enemies now are still in the phase where I stunlock them so I'm wondering what to do when I can no longer do that.
>>334865152
I like to two-hand the scimitar or use a dagger on the side, besides I think it looks cooler though. Falchion is ugly.
>>334865150
Sweet, thanks.
>>334847217
>got him trapped behind a wall
>hit the wall until he died
such a hard enemy
desu the lizard is good preparation for the boss battles later on, they all one-shot you anyways.
>>334864830
Honestly I'd say Endurance isn't worth it. By the time you get it up to 40 it barely adds any fucking meter whatsoever. You have to pump so many souls into it just to get any fucking noticeable effect whatsoever.
they should have had it give 4 points up to level 20, then 3 to 30, then 2 to 40 softcap.
>>334864830
Measure your stamina by your combos and rolls. Can you pull off your combo and still roll out of it? Then you are good on stamina. If you feel like upping your stamina by 1-2 levels can sneak in an extra hit or roll then theres no reason not too
>>334847217
>friend brings computer over on day 1, we start game at same time
>kill this thing first try
>he spends over an hour on this, and even longer on the second boss
i just dont understand
>>334863127
Hey fuck you Old Demon King has like 15 forms of fucking cheese explosions
>>334847217
why does /v/ consider this series as some sort of rite of passage or secret club. It is one of the most popular games out right now
>>334863885
>I will never be able to draw cute girls as cute as this
>>334866114
Old Demon King has only two that are dangerous and one has a huge startup.
You can just attack and stagger him almost effortlessly
harder or easier than the ogres in dark souls 2?
The ogre was easy but he had one pretty fast and backcrush move
>>334866207
Dark Souls 3 is actually really hard unlike the first game.
>>334866114
he's literally just stray demon with a few extra telegraphed moves
>>334866349
the bosses are actually really easy compared to the old ones. Getting there although is way tougher since the ai is actually aggressive and gank squads
>>334847217
>thought it was just a shitty crystal golem
>walked closer
>turns into sanic
>got scared and ran away
Sorry for the stupid question but is there a good way to compare stats when you're buying equipment?
I know you can press the right stick in your inventory but it doesn't work when you're buying. There's got to be a better option than buying shit to compare everything then selling it back for 1/10th the souls.
>message saying TURN BACK
>started as Herald
>just strafed and poked with spear until ded
I immediately began worrying about this game being too easy.
whats your ring setup? Im using clotheary ring, havel, knight slayer, pontiff right eye.
I love how people who play this game tell others how to play it. Elitism like this is why the fanbase is cancerous, who gives a shit how you play the game as long as you get enjoyment from it.Though I agree with the people who say summoning people to help on a boss is a pussy thing to do, but coop exists in this game for a reason.
>>334866308
Imagine the ogre things from Dark Souls 2 but fast, agile and not just placed randomly like they did with that random one in Scholar going to the first bonfire.
With tangible movesets that make you think about what you're doing.
While I really like Dark Souls 2 beyond it's weaknesses the ogres were a joke and were pumped up way too much.
>>334863127
I only use the fallen knight helm because it goes perfect with Great wolf sword and Abyss watcher Armor. Who watchdog of the great wolf here?
>grabbed
>stand up
>he's starting the grab attack before I've even fully recovered
PLEASE
I BEG YOU
I've fought and beat every little miniboss thing I've come across, like the Crystal Lizard, that beast on the Boreal bridge, the stray demon.
But I wouldn't say anyone who didn't is a casual. That's just retard speak.
>>334866349
>Dark Souls 3 is actually really hard unlike the first game
It's the same thing. Unless you mean Demon Souls, that was nasty.
>>334866438
>the bosses are actually really easy compared to the old ones
bullshit, in Dark Souls armor actually meant something, you could take a good 6-10 hits from most bosses in any decent heavy armor. Hell even if you were wearing shitty rags you wouldn't get one-shotted by every attack.
You could actually use shields to tank through a boss's combo and then punish rather than be forced to autistically abuse invincibility frames.
Most bosses had little health and gave you ample opportunities to punish them. There was no boss like Dragonslayer Armor where he literally only has 2 safely punishable moves.
Most bosses were slow as all fucking shit meaning you could just stay at a distance and bombard them with magic all day until they died. Sif, Ornstein and Smough, and Gwyn are the only examples I can think of where they're fast enough to stay on your ass.
Plus you could literally just make a Lightning Zweihander and never lose any boss ever. Dark Souls has so many ways to cheese out the content, the level of difficulty is nonexistent compared to 3.
>>334866743
Most of the time i summon for a boss is because im still embered throughout the level. I did solo aldrith because of the seething hate of seeing everything destroyed before me
>>334866743
>makes criticism on the community
>immediately does that very same thing
>>334866607
Well, it's exactly as difficult as every other Soulsborne game, which is to say not very because they give you an invincibility button. The only challenge comes from stopping yourself from going ham and getting caught in an animation when the enemy attacks.
>>334866878
Cathedral helm + drang armor here.
>summon people outside the door to Vordt
>run around in circles and point up the stars towards the knights like I need help killing them
>go through the fog door to Dancer
>watch SL10-20 people get fucking bodied by Dancer in seconds
Literally more fun than invading.
You people that are so gud that you can beat every single boss on first try without summoning anyone... what build are you playing exactly ? I'm playing a pure STR, no magic, no bullshit, huge shields, huge weapons, huge armor character and I swear some of these bosses are just downright impossible. I end up needing to summon people more than half the time.
Why is poise so shit ? I block one, maybe two hits if im lucky with that huge black iron shield before i'm out of stamina then I get hit once for half my fucking health. What's the fucking point of boosting stamina/poise/using huge shields ?!
>>334866743
I don't think it's 100% serious but most of the stuff people say is bad like summoning/using cheese weapons such as the drake sword or magic to beat a boss is actually a bad thing to do
You're going to feel way more accomplished beating the game normally without resorting to summoning ect and I think anyone new to the series put off by summoning is going to enjoy the game more than the player who is unaware it's bad and romps through the game with 3 summons every fight
>>334867105
Mah nigga I rock that for my winged knight halberd.
>>334867163
>I'm playing a... no bullshit
Gonna stop you there. "b-b-but i gotta be like gattzu" is some considerable self-imposed bullshit.
>>334867310
Wtf is a gattzu. I'm just playing the same character I played in Dark Souls 1
>>334866952
Dragonslayer armour seems like a bad example. Don't get me wrong I'm finding every boss past Pontiff to be tedious 'roll roll swing' creatively bankrupt copy pastes of each other but unless you're using ultra weapons Dragonslayer can be punished after every one of his attacks. Like EVERY snoozefest boss in the game he's roll left and swing a couple times the boss.
I didn't think I'd be saying this but I really miss shit like gaping dragon, sif, or even gimmick bosses.
>>334866586
bump for any answer
>>334867307
The cape works too well for the spinning weapons. I use it with drang hammers
>>334866438
>Ludex Gundyr
>easier than Phat-Ass Demon
That alone negates your comment.
That was FROM's best intro ever into a Souls game ever. It was difficult and gave multiple opportunities to actually parry a boss and had multiple parts which give leeway to showing how elemental damage helps.
That was one DAMN well constructed intro area and boss.
If you could get out of that area and NOT know how every basic principle of a soul's game is constructed then you're retarded. Not perfect but near perfect.
>>334867163
Quality build here and turns out the sword you can make besides the sword with the dagger. The one with Artorias weapon art and full abyss armor with fallen knight helm no Shield. It's not that bad the only one I had to summmon for is Aldrich so far
I played Deprived and beat it on my first try. He's piss easy as everyone has said. All his attacks are retardedly telegraphed
>>334867408
Dragonslayer can be punished on almost any of his attacks, but he can only be SAFELY punished (that is, without any fear of him starting up a new combo in the middle of your punish) on two attacks, the long range shield smash and the lightning strike.
anything else and he's liable to punch you in the face with a non-telegraphed close range shield attack that one-shots you.
>>334866878
I got no summons so dropped them for purple and darkmoon invasions.
Either way, using Karla's hat with Faraam's set.
>>334867721
What level are you anon I get it non stop in the mid 30s 40s
>>334867537
>which give leeway to showing how elemental damage helps
I don't disagree but care to elaborate on this part? I don't think you can do elemental damage unless you pick a spell based class by the at point.
>cash in all my shit for like 10 levels and upgraded sword
>one shotting enemies in current area now
>get to next area, get fucking raped by curse mark Sasukes, giant crabs and black knight
I'm too casual for this shit
>>334859559
it's a completely useless waste of stats
>>334867854
Was late 20s by the time I was done. EIther way I'm 54 now so I should try aldritch's instead.
>>334867932
>Cursed mark sasuke
Wut
>>334859559
Luck is literally Dark Souls 1 Resistance tier
in fact it's recommended that you ALWAYS start as either a Knight or Pyromancer simply because they have the lowest luck.
>people actually died in this game
how does it feel being a scrub? you are not even able to finish the game without dying, just kys
>>334867878
I mean in the way of new people who may be trying class after class and being shit at it.
Pyromancer crops up and then you realize the dark form gets damaged way more by it.
Some may not even try but I can see a lot of people just spam-trying new classes after dying and then learning it.
It's a great area for people not accustomed to souls in general getting a fine intro into it.
>>334847217
Not doing a SL1, Deprived and using this ring? Fucking casuals man.
>>334868026
>Invade constantly
>If they start summoning and shit I'll fight in pure bitch mode, running between tough enemies and taunting constantly.
>If they're alone, I'll do the toast emote. If they toast with my, I black crystal out.
>If they try to fight me 1v1 I'll fight them
>Only Estus if they do
Now if only I were a better fighter.
>>334867537
>L
I'm sick of this meme
>>334868238
wait what dont fucking tell me this ring means I am getting double the damage
>>334866114
tfw I got trapped inside old demon king's weapon at twice.
retarded as hell
>>334868330
I know what he looks like but no enemies look like him.
>>334868157
beat DaS1 without dying thanks to Lightning Zweihander +5, Havel's Ring and Flip Ring, Giant armor, Grass Crest shield and Child mask, and Soul Arrow and Greater Soul Arrow
>>334867652
Fair enough. I was running a warden twinblade bleed build so I'd sidestep and then go ham so I never let him get far enough away to really do much.
I'm REALLY disappointed with these bosses though. They're by and large far more tedious than actually difficult which is a shame because the rest of the game is pretty god damn splendid.During the Dancer transition to phase 2 if I was doing the fight solo I could get him to <10% health before he finished the animation for drawing his second sword because lolbleed damage
im trying the carthus beacon. Is it meant to be complete shit? Compared to the flame arc, it takes more prerequisites, buffs less initial and maximum damage, takes two slots, shorter duration. Whats the fucking point other than non weapon enchant? Isnt deep protection better as well?
>>334868509
>>334868416
*doesn't tell you*
>>334867441
press X to switch to the stats screen
>>334868634
Sasuke doesn't have four wings or feathers. Their crow people get it right
>>334867163
I just finished an all STR Greatsword +10 build and the I never died more than 2 times to any boss but Sulyvahn and one other, and Sulyvahn only because I know suck impossibly hard at parrying in these games.
Even Nameless King wasn't that bad (5 tries) cause your sheer damage is outrageous with the quick resin's being a thing now. Honestly BB got me never wanting to use a shield because it's far more boring than rolling.
>>334868238
>He hasn't equipped 3 Clutch rings as well
>He isn't wielding a weapon he doesn't meet the stat requirements for
>He hasn't intentionally equipped enough gear to get overburdened
Fucking casual piece of shit, you're the cancer ruining gaming.
>>334868509
I think its the birdmen after the sacrifice road or something.
>>334868467
That happened to me with Wolnir. I rolled on his one slam attack and was stuck inside the hitbox of his one hand until I got dragged back into the deathfog.
>>334868416
I you wear nothing, yeah.
>>334868648
piece of shit and i wonder why the game is so fucking hard
>>334868380
>invade constantly
Now, I've never invaded once.
No kidding. Not one Souls game but I got like 5 of them from some fucker in Firelink.
If I wanted to be an ass, how do you get more? Through covenants or something?
>>334868984
Use them, win an invasion, fucker will come back and try to tempt you more.
Alternatively you can find an item in the settlementwhere you fought the big demonand he'll also show up. Infinite invasions after that. You can also join an area covenant.
>>334868984
there's a masked HEH NOTHING PERSONAL KID guy who leans against the top throne in Firelink
he'll give you 5 cracked Red Eyes
when you get enough Pale Tongues (gained both by invading and winning and picked up in the game world) he'll give you a key to a stupid location where you kill a guy and get an inifnite Red Eye.
>>334866885
>That neck snap when it actually kills you with the grab
>>334869340
I don't know about the tongues but I know that getting the Cliff Underside (or whatever its called) in Undead Settlement is the trigger for him to give you the lift key.
>>334869184
>win an invasion
*this kills the spirit*
Guess I better gather my little nuts and try it for once. I hate being an ass but I want to experiment.
I'll probably just get gangraped by sunbros and company.
>all this people playing legit
>while i used a trainer and maxed out all stats with inf stamina and health
Wew fags
>>334864576
It's easier in general but with bigger roadblocks. Man eaters might still be the hardest boss in a souls game
rate my build? i can't fit in GMB while staying at SL 120, unless i want to drop my health down to nothing
>>334868984
talk to the guy that gave you the cracked orbs, he'll show up again when you get a pale tongue, then go to that lift in the tower on high wall and the darkwraith will drop one.
>>334869813
You don't need to win, finding the actual item is way easier and the better alternative.
>>334863127
I summoned Sirris and Anri every time I could because I thought it was part of their sidequests.
>>334869862
forgot picture
:)
Isn't starting as deprived the best for long term leveling provided I can get over the initial difficulty?
>>334847217
First time, I ran from it and somehow it died alone.
Second time that I recreated a character I did beat it on my own though.
>>334869971
it puts all the stats at 10, sometimes the other classes can be better if the stat distribution agrees with your build since some of the stats start off below 10.
>>334847217
I'll fucking raise you, and tell you that I beat it first attempt without being hit even one time.
I jerked off as I typed that.
>>334869971
Deprived being hard is a meme. You start with a great weapon and ok stats. The only shitty thing is the shield.
>>334869934
>finding the actual item
Please explain.
>>334869971
All have the same amount of stat distributed.
Knight and Pyro are considered better because they have the lowest Luck since this stat is very uselees unless you're going for something specific.
>>334869971
Knight and Pyromancer are the best because they have 7 Luck as well as great equipment.
Deprived and Assassin are next best, Deprived for the leveling, Assassin for starting with the overpowered Estoc.
The other classes are a mix, honestly Cleric is the worst due to Miracles being worthless.
>>334863759
Holy fuck you're a fucking faggot
>>334870161
So Luck is actually useless?
I figured I could get good weapon drops at least.
