Did Undertale steal a song from shin megami tensei? A new movement seems to believe so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FidRseJqy-8
What is wrong with his voice?
I-i-it's a homage!
>are pretty much exactly the same
wew lad
>>334841040
>look at this
>it's fucking nothing
wew lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3S7PisMvjY
why didnt you post your best video, OP
The differences are pretty substantial
The bassline jumps about instead of being one note, and the the melody is a bit more complex despite having the same rhythm and chord progression.
In any case, it's like 2 bars of the intro. How autistic do you have to be to care?
>>334841445
Stay jelly of my 1.5 million views
>Published on Apr 19, 2016
Am I expected to believe that one autist took this long to find something that none of the other autists couldn't have found already? Some sort of ultra-autism?
>people actually pronounce Shin Megami Tensei as "Shin Mega-me Tense-eye.
>>334841040
Every day this same autismal thread.
>>334842498
Japanese People pronounce english incorrectly words all the time tbf.
>>334841040
>"new movement"
>721 views
Stop shilling your trashy video here you gigantic faggot.
>>334841040
>A new movement
top kekek
Undercucks BTFO! hopefully you'll all get sued by atlus in a few days.
>>334842632
and you laugh at them, so people can laugh back when you retards can pronounce japanese words. choke on it.
>>334842891
Shut the fuck up newfag we here at /v/ HATE plagiarism and if you seriously defend this shit then go back to plebbit with all the other thieves!
>>334844242
>>334844031
Samefag
>>334842498
All of that is almost correct though except for the last part
>>334844173
You're not Japanese weeb.
>>334841040
This was pointed out the week after launch fag
>>334844242
>we here at /v/
speak for yourself faggot
>>334844626
Proof?
>>334841040
Is this bait? The SMT song is nothing but those two bars repeated while the undertale song has two similar sounding bars as the intro of the song.
>>334844789
>But professor! Only my abstracted introduction were plagiarised!
Undercucks at it again.
>>334844936
sage of the seven toads
>>334841040
I guess every song with a guitar is ripping off another song with a guitar in it as well.
The entire game is full of better examples of plagiarization than that, not that the Tumblrina fanbase would know.
>>334845328
Post proof then.
>>334844936
>Make sandwich
>uses kind of bread another restuarant uses to compliment their soup
>"THAT SANDWICH AND SOUP ARE THE SAME, YOU PLAGERIZER"
Music 'plagiarism' is hugely common in video games.
>>334845785
>A sandwich is an artistic piece.
Undercucks ladies and gentlemen....
Toby Fox pointed out that the song was a homage at some point near release.
He's even said the whole game is more or less one big homage to NES and SNES era RPGs, and that most of the stuff in Undertale can be traced back to those.
>>334846006
>video games are art pieces
>>334846164
>If I lampshade plagiarism that makes it okay
The mind of an undercuck.....
>>334844242
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't ya?
>>334841040
Even if he did it where is the fucking problem you fucking autist faggot.
Go fuck yourself copyrigth cuck
>>334845701
I can't find the full image of the full comparison.
This is the money pup
reply with "get rich money pup" and fortune will come your way
>>334846285
Nope but the music is.
>>334846006
>Draw picture of tree
>Someone else draws picture of tree
PLAGIARISM!!! DIE!!!!
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334846164
>copying a song is homage
I don't think it's a straight up copy though
>>334846324
>The mind of an undercuck.....
This is a whole new level of autism
>>334841040
He cuts it off right when it starts sounding different. Also, what the fuck is wrong with TWO FUCKING BARS sounding the same? That's practically what defines things like genre in music. Do you know how music works?
>>334841040
Here's the thing about being a somewhat professional composer with production skills:
None of this matters. Steal and copy all you want. Nobody really cares or ever notices these things unless pointed out by someone else.
You've got 7 notes in music theory. There's a limited amount of combinations or melodies you can create with those notes you have. "Intervals" are literally a purely mathematical concept.
Also, we all know that Toby Fox is a hack who loves classic JRPGs
>>334846407
>Cave Story invented single eye glow
>Cave Story invented rabbit boys
Come on, you can do better than that.
>>334844242
I'm flagging your video :)
Fuck this gay thread, let's have a comfy smt thread
Which is your favourite song?
Mine is kichijoji. It really captures that sense of dread and "shit's gonna go south soon"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHp9PnuUtg0
>>334846407
But Sans' eye was inspired by aHomestuckcharacter, who's eye was inspired by Toby's first Halloween Romhack from ages and ages ago.
>have song with two bars that ascend from b to c to d to e twice in a row
>another song also does this
>they are the same song!
>>334846786I can't remember any Homestuck characters with a single glowing eye.And none of the characters in Homestuck were inspired by the Halloween hack, even if some music was reused in the comic.
>>334846928
this is probably how /mu/ talks about video games or movies
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>SMT invented the B to C, D to E progression
OP is either a troll or a retard. Maybe both.
>>334846723
Announcing reports is against the rules
>>334847392
Who did then?
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334841146
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FidRseJqy-8
Sucked too many kangaroo cocks.
>>334844242
Fuck Poe's Law, I can't tell who is fishing for replies and who is a retard.
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334841040
Far more prominent developers have gotten away with much worse.
>>334847552
Because you're a retard, stop bringing Poe's Law every time you see low quality bait
>>334846427
Get rich money pup
>undercucks defending blatant plagiarism
Not surprising at all.
>>334841040
>A new movement
>1 shitty Youtube video made by some groggy voiced Ausfag
>Video has shitty stock photos made into le memes
>Less than a thousand views, most of them probably from anons coming from this thread
>Songs don't sound particularly similar, similarities just down to being both generic techno beats
Ausfag, pls go and stay go
>>334847839
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS BAIT
THIS IS BAIT
ANY FURTHER REPLIES ARE ASSUMED AS SAMEFAGGING
>>334841040
All that video proves is that the Undertale OST is garbage, not only in composition but also general sound quality when compared to a 22 year old game on hardware infinitely weaker.
>>334847460
The alphabet
I dont want to give this blatant clickbait the satisfaction
what SMT song is being compared to what Undertale song?
>>334846407
Caught you red handed, motherfucker. Those things were already plagiarizing OTHER things. Hell, those things might be plagiarizing yet more things. How deep does this rabbit hole go?
>>334842216
unless they're monetized I don't give a fuck, nigga
and even if they are, good job? of all the ways you could measure self worth you pick youtube video hits
like be serious, that's pathetic
They are different enough. By your definition all music is a form of plagiarism. For me plagiarism in music only occurs when 1. the music is extremely similar down to the notes and tempo/lyrics and song subject and 2. if the artists are peers in their business. A good example is nuclear by mike oldfield, which is basically epitaph by king crimson.
>>334848082
>goat
>bunny
what?
>>334841040
The real question is
>Who gives a fuck?
You pretty much have to be autistic to care about this.
>>334848078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYDF4Mtpi7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF4mWRA3CTA
YES
ANTI-UNDERTALE TASK SQUAD ASSEMBLE
THIS IS JUST THE AMMO WE NEED TO DESTROY UNDERTALE
>>334847395
Announcing reports on 4CHAN is you stupid fuck, not another website.
>>334848270
much appreciated anon
The number of beats doesn't even fucking match between the two songs.
You are a fucking cretin, and you have successfully triggered me. Fuck off.
they sound different enough
fuck off
people like you are why copyright lasts 100+ years now
>>334848270
Seriously? It's a vague resemblance at best
>>334841040
> complains about caught stealing from smt
> nobody talks about him using stock fruity loops trash
sounds similar =/= plagirizing
>>334848452
that's not even taking into consideration that Enemy Approaching is just Dogsong slowed down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4wptBuM6zs
>>334848557
exactly. 90% of pop songs from the last 30 years all use the same chord progression, but people don't call THAT plagarism.
>>334848719
Dogsong is Enemy Approaching sped up
>>334848082
I always figured it look like the south park kid who sells Timmy steriods than scream mask. Probably a hybrid
Stop shilling your video, OP.
>>334846427
get rich money pup
all the tumblertale shills, jesus!
>>334848789
and Stronger Monsters is a remix of Dogsong
and Get Dunked on is an even faster version
and Here we are is a very slow version
none of which sound like that SMT song. OP is just looking for views
>>334848719
I don't have the hear to tell you like 1/3 of the songs are just enemy approaching, and another 1/2 are just variations on "Home"
>>334841040
That one was originally from SMT 1.
Also they are very different.
>>334841040
Both sound like megaman tracks if you ask me... and both are 2 shit games I wouldnt touch with a 20m pole so who give a fuck...
>>334841040
TUMBLRTALE KIDDIES ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>334848270
Actually I've found out something a while ago,and by the way I've never played UT only listened to the OST and I remember there is a track in undertale that sounds really similar to one of FFXIII's tracks. I only realized this a few days ago after looking at some of the XIII footage after listening to the UT OST,I'll see if I can find the tracks.
>>334849447
Nice keep dishing it to the undercucks.
>>334849162
this
https://youtu.be/7l2FxFGGkUw
>>334847297Vriska, if I got the name right.Never read Homestuck.
Really, what a shitty thing to complain about considering how the True Lab lets you fight little Giygases while music using Earthbound's sound font plays in the background.
>>334849110
And then we have megalovaniaGod I get PTSD whenever I hear that fucking song
>>334849804
>tfw Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans is 100 times better
>It's not even in the game
Th... thanks Toby
>>334849803
>while music using Earthbound's sound font plays in the background.
Isn't the song from the mod, which the creator of undertale made?
>movement
yeah okay
>>334841040
Oh looks. It's you again.
>>334850001
It was supposed to play during pacifist run but Toby decided against it, which makes sense when you listen to the samples in the song
>>334841040
They're certainly similar but it doesn't sound like plagiarism. They're just similar songs.
Also stop shilling your fucking video, "new movement" my ass. Shut the fuck up.
>>334850047
I honestly have no clue, I only know that Megalovania come from Toby Fox's Earthbound romhack.
>>334850363
Yeah I know that one for sure, but I've heard he has reused several songs from his mod
>>334841040
Whoever made this knows nothing about musical compostition.
There are other songs in Undertale that lean even closer to previous pieces, and they still aren't "stolen."
the first 6 seconds of one of the 100 hundred songs in undertale sounds mildly similar to 6 seconds of a song from 1992
either he's played the game before and accidentally based it off of it or it's a complete coincidence
>>334850534
>Someone making a video to post on /v/ doesn't know what they're talking about
No! You really think someone would do that?
>>334850658
That it's someone just pretending to be retarded is of course also an option.
The game is a plagiarizing galore, but I don't give a fuck since the game is mediocre at best.
>>334846721
The name itself is a ripoff.
Cave=Under Story=Tale
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334846427
boskeletonrp
This isn't anything new. Undertale is nothing more than a condensed history of JRPGs for people who don't like JRPGs.
It never had any original ideas.
>>334849645
I found it,but like I said I'm not that familiar with UT
I just happened to stumble upon this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39Cg92jbc88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqZlQGEgZwE
The undertale track just sounds a lot like a repitition of a part early in the FF one
>>334846427
get rich money pup
Here's a better example.
youtu.be/xfu0XBf8kmk?t=58s
Hopes and Dreams
UNDERTALE IS A VIDEO GAME, IT IS CLEARLY A RIPOFF OF PONG, WHICH IS ALSO A VIDEO GAME
Never even played the game, I just enjoy watching you baboons fight over it.
https://youtu.be/E_oc9Ypcb2Q
I can't believe all this plagiarism. Someone should arrest Hip Tanaka for this.
>>334851274
Just sounds like a simple 1234, 1234, 1234, 1234 rythm to me
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334841040
>"plagiarization"
What do you expect from Earthboundfags, the lowest of the lowest scum in videogame fanbases? The entire game teaches them being a lazy hack is fine, since Earthbound is just a shit rehashed DQ ripoff that's also full of """""""""homages""""""""". That makes Memetale a rehash of a rehash.
>>334851514
well to be honest that first boss fight against flowey shares similarities to pong and the whole games battle system has you moving around to avoid stuff like in pong
>>334851802
>avoid stuff like in pong
But you don't avoid stuff in pong.
>>334841040
>new movement
lel
I'm not giving your shit video a view but it's probably true. Most of his music is ripped.
>>334851802
>pong
>moving around to avoid stuff
>avoid
>pong
Alright bros. How do we get word out to atlus? We need to be sure another shitty undertale game is never made.
I don't get why out of all the games that exist, people are desperate to prove that every little thing about Undertale is a 1:1 copy, and then keep whining about it even if they're wrong.
At this point in history, it's gonna be really fucking hard to make a game/movie/book with not a single thing that resembles something from anouther thing.
>>334841040
>A new movement seems to believe so.
Not with those dislikes.
>>334852463
No one gives a shit an neither would fatlus
>>334852463
We don't. Here in burgerstan he'll only get in trouble if he rips off a big celebrity, not a bunch of old videogames.
>>334852236
>>334852445
fuck you're right I'm thinking about something else
>>334841040
>this is AppleCakePie
Dude fuck off no one wants to watch your shitty vid
>>334841040
Can we globally ban this fucking game already? I'm sick of seeing it.
You can't own a progression of notes or chords.
>>334850001
>mfw I realized that Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans is literally Sans Theme sped up
>>334852859
Can we globally ban these fucking crybabies already? I'm sick of seeing them.
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334852974
True
>>334846561
No shit it's just a baseline. He didn't even play much of the undertale song because it's different from then on.
>>334852463
They're too busy not working on Persona 5 to worry about Undertale 2.
>>334848156
What's even more pathetic is that you can easily see he botted for them.
>>334846561
>>334853045
I don't know what version of the song he used but the actual song sounds completely different, it's barely recognizable
Well time to derail the thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MobkO51msMI
And all the music from the original Doom was plagiarized 90s rock songs, who gives a fuck.
>>334853007
I know you are but what am I
>>334852859
I wish we did this about a week after release.
>>334852463
Are you serious? Any sort of big company or lawyer you showed this to would laugh you out of his office
>>334851747
Shitposting aside DQ is better than Earthbound. Mother 3 is great though.
>>334841040
Whatever. It was the worst game of 2015 anyway.
>>334841040
And then Toby never used this song again in shame, like his direct competitor Hideo Kojima. Oh wait, all of those Kojima comparisons fall flat when you realize Toby is a shit human being and a talentless hack.
By the way /v/ there is no legal ground here. Unless it's quite literally the exact same song there isn't much you can do. So much as changing one instrument to a slightly different sounding instrument will get you off the hook.
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334853708
How is it possible to hail this game as GOTY 2015?
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334841040
>homosuck steals a bunch of songs
>toby makes his own game and steals songs too
it's like pottery
>>334853935
A deep mixture of pathology, homosexuality, and stupidity. Kinda like how MLP got popular.
>>334841040
it stole much more from SMT than just a song
>>334846427
Get rich money pup!
>>334850952
What the fuck dude.
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334849162
>SMT II
>shit
Fight me you fucking casual
>>334850952
Bio=Water
Why does everyone in this thread not have the burning desire for suicide?
Whats wrong with all of you?
>>334846717
Should have posted first so your answer would have ended the thread.
This thread is something else
The OP is samefagging to the end just to hate Undertale and try to make everyone agree with him
I think Undertale is a decent game, and I know that the fanbase is pure cancer but why go out of your way to bash the game and anyone who dares disagree with you? That's really fucking autistic dude
Seek help
Also I know it's you every time you type "Undercuck"
>>334854826
The thread is stupid, but Undertale is garbage, no better than a slightly longer Newgrounds game.
>>334855065
I wouldn't say garbage, it's just overrated
In itself it's a pretty fun mix between JRPG and Bullet Hell, and it can be difficult at times
Also, it has stuff you don't normally see in other games like all that meta fuckery
>>334841040
>those two bars sound the same just different
>who the fuck cares about the rest of the song
Kill yourself and your Youtube channel.
>>334855276
>it has stuff you don't normally see in other games like all of its pretentiousness
FTFY
>>334855517
I don't see how meta fuckery and pretentious are the same
I guess you could say it's pretentious yes, but it doesn't automatically make it a bad game, or a garbage game
>>334841040
They sound nothing alike
TOBY "THE HACK" CAUGHT RED HANDED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIowwZThIXM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2jVbSI9H4o
AND HE THOUGHT WE WOULDN'T NOTICE!!!
>>334855276
When a game looks and sounds like Undertale post-1985ish, it's garbage. There is no way it can be redeemed.
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334855769
this is some next level autism, OP
you sound like a clickbait article
>>334842498
Its Shin Megah-mi ten-sei, not Mega-me tense-eye
https://youtu.be/lGaneyDfyls?t=2m14s
https://youtu.be/FmM7B_7oil0?t=16s
HMMM....
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM....
>>334841040
> A new movement seems to believe so.
So just your autistic video, then?
I'm an SMTfag and they aren't similar at all.
>>334855814
There is one wayBeing fun
>>334855769
kek
>>334855941
>mfw pronounce it shin mega-me ten-sei
>>334856348
I always thought it was Shin Meg-ah-me Ten-say.
>>334856348
Its Meh-Gah-me/mi anon, why would the Nipons say Mega?
>>334844173
>I laugh at people who can't pronounce words correctly
>I only care about the correct pronunciation of Japanese words because I'm a loser
>Thread derailed by SMT
I am okay with this
>>334856885
>The japs can't say Mega properly so they had to rename Megaman to Rockman
Everything makes sense now
>>334841040
saying they riped off SMT 2 is like saying Chocolate rain ripped off Area 88. They have similarities but are more than likely to be coincidences
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlDFvDlmJHk
>>334857189
Mistakes happen anon, its fine.
>>334857176
Damn right.
Post obscure megatens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Y8BCJU9z0
>>334856265
Which it ain't
Asriel = another name for Azriel (AKA Izrail, Azrin, Izrael, Azrael, Azrail, Ezraeil, Azraille, Azryel, Ozryel, or Azraa-eel), a Hebrew Angel/Demon, the God of Death, and some say he is the same entity as Sariel (AKA Seriel, Sauriel, Surya, Saraqael, Sarakiel, Suruel, Surufel or Sourial), demon son of Lilith and Samael, the blind God, who also identifies with the Angel Metatron (UNDERTALE's Mettaton). Yet another deity associated with Azriel is Raziel, and some believe they are the same being. Raziel (under the alternate name Galizur ("Revealer of The Rock")) is described as the "ruling prince of the 2nd Heaven." He is said to expound the "Torah's divine wisdom," and protects the ministering angels from the Hayyoth (four-faced anthropoid beasts), the "holy Creatures" that uphold the universe. He is the Archangel of the Ophanim, the wheel angels.
UNDERTALE is Jewish mysticism propaganda. Toby Fox is, quite literally, a Jewish shill who secretly tries to normalize the Hebrew Satanic cult of Remphan and Moloch and make it accessible to children.
Gas the kikes.
>>334852974
>you can't own sheet music
>>334846589
shut up, undercuck
>>334858924
shut up, autist
>>334859510
Undercucks getting salty
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334860074
Autists acting like autists
>>334841040
autism
>>334848270
wow they're both shit, who cares
>>334846427
Get bankrupt money pup!
>>334842498
It's shinnu mega-me tensahh
>>334846427
Get rich money pup
>Australian
>arguments
https://youtu.be/JDTm-4ykHJs?t=18s
>>334842498
>Shine Megammy Tensai
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334853279
You call that a shitpost, THIS is a shitpost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHNSEQ8uC9s
>>334846427
Get rich money pup
>>334841040
>story
Ripped from Crusader of Centy/soleil. He even ripped off le maniac flower from it
The rest is a mix of Earthbound and Homestuck
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334846427
>get rich money pup
>>334841040
>>334849182
>>334854094
>>334854171
>there are people so tone deaf that they can't tell those two songs apart
wew lad
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334842548
>mfw fags like you like undertale
this is the game over theme slowed down with a different end sequence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOHthjfu9m0
I only liked the soundtrack anyway, awful game
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334841040
toby btfo
>>334861814
Have you ever listened to one of those '/v/ sings ____' mixes?
I'd highly advise you don't, /v/ is possibly the most tone deaf group of people in the world.
>>334861814
My thoughts exactly
>>334862197
I definitely hear it, identical chord minus 3 notes
ez money
>>334841040
>A new movement seems to believe so.
>movement
Stop shilling your shitty video
>>334862639
>papyrus
nigga I'm not reading that shit
>>334862639
Fuck off back to /pol/ you nigger
>>>/pol/
SMT is shite.
>>334853279
Sauce on that mugi pic?
>>334846775
I love SMT's first act. It just keeps getting progressively worse every minute for the protagonists.
>>334841040
All I could think of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nGWEb5QxGA
tumblrmeme is pure garbage and anyone that likes it needs to go back.
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334846427
>get rich money pup
get rich money pupget rich money pupget rich money pupget rich money pupget rich money pup
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334846427
>get rich money pup
>>334846427
get rich money pup
also you should stay away from that pitbull
>>334846427
>get rich money pup
>>334847963
post a bait image anon or don't post at all.
>>334866814
How deep does the rabbit hole go? Why do undercucks defend this shitty game?
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334841040
>A new movement
There is already a word for it.
It's called autism.
>>334841040
Is this a parody video
>>334846427
"get rich money pup"
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334841040
Not even close.
>>334872389
because anyone that likes tumblrmeme is a tumblrina
THE RESEMBLANCE IS UNCANNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0habxsuXW4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6joQj2c25rc
>>334873395
spoopy
>>334845785
>food analogies
>>334846427
get rich money pup
>>334858228
Are you autistic, by any chance? Maybe you believe video games turn people into mass shooters? Regardless, kys.
>>334846427
get rich money pup
Reminder that Undertale ripped off LISA. You're really telling me that another indie RPG just *happened* to have a kickstarter character that is a real tumblr user that draws fatty porn?
Wake up, goatple!