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>FromSoft lets you get the ultimate weapon very early in the game

Why would they do that?
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git gud
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>>334790752
>a katana is the best weapon
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>>334790752

Coulnt you post your weebshit complain in one of the thousands other threads on /v/
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because the western philosophy of hiding the best shit until you have 2 hours of the game left is really fucking stupid. abilities, weapons and so on should in most cases be available from the start, because if your game's difficulty hinges on those thing then you have already failed.
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both the longsword and the estoc are better and you can start with them
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>>334790752
>low durability
It's not even worth it
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d3rk slos
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>still playing dark souls 3 after all those mexicans infested the game with the mexican price glitch
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>>334790918
>namefag
>right to bitch
pick one
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To empower the player in face of overwhelming hopelessness.

Webm related. Me with Uchigatana.
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>>334791183
I used it to clear the game and it didn't even break once. Durability is a joke in this game
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>>334791384
>dumb tumblr gif poster can't tell the difference between tripfags and namefags
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>>334790752
kek gg, but thats not a claymore.
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>>334791183
>low durability
out of every fucking complaint
you certainly haven't played das3 if you think durability matters in the slightest.
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>>334790752
The game isn't about powering up, it's about becoming better as a player.
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>>334790752
Is this the glorious nippin steel folded 1000 times ?
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>>334790937
i just don't see the point in rewards given that will see seldom use.

so having SOME strong shit hidden but available early in the game is awesome.
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>>334791384
jasmine is so fucking hot
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>>334791739
it's about both you faggot
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>>334791739
>R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1
>win
dude i got gud xD
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>>334791739
is that why you start with a longsword, lel
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>30 invasions
>never lost to a straight sword/katana fag
pyros are scary though
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>>334790752
>walk over there while exploring
>naked man with a katana is standing there
>approach him to see if he's friendly
>he walks off the cliff
>o-okay
>come back and his sword and rags are there
Too bad the Uchi moveset is boring. Loved it in DaS1, not so much 2.
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>ultimate weapon
topkek
You find a sea of better weapons 2 hours into the game.
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>>334791183
Durability really doesn't mean anything in this game. The only time I've ever gotten a durability warning was when I played the same level 7-8 times as a phantom.
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>>334790752
Wait.. where? I'm 10h in and never seen it. I'm at castle where those wormy undeads are.
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God Tier:
Short Swords
Piercing Swords
Katanas

Great Tier:
Curved Swords
Reapers

OK Tier:
Spears
Hammers
Maces
Axes

Bad Tier:
Great *
Halberds

Stop Tier:
Ultra Greatswords
Fist Weapons
Whips
Ranged Weapons
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>>334790752
That's not how you spell lucerne
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i pumped str, realized i didnt like the str str weapons much then came upon the dranghammers. Now im a tornado with maces stapled on. I tried the right pontiff eye ring and the carthus beacon for that multihit bonus but the beacon seems so minimal a boost, duration is too short, and doesnt meret the 2 slots and 14 in magic and faith at all. Whats the point of it?
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>>334792503
The notched whip is fucking godly if you use it right. Especially against naked dex dodgers.
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>>334791384
I want to see her fart in the bathtub
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>not the Chaos Blade
lel git fucked
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>>334792503
I can press R1 in repetition tier:
Estoc
Katana
Dark Sword

Shit tier
the rest
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>>334790752
>shit compared to just about any straight sword
>shit compared to just about every other katana except maybe the Bloodletter, but even that is useful as a better Black Crystal
>shit compared to any good quality weapon
>shit compared to Estoc
>shit compared to most curved swords
It sucks
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>>334792503
Are fist weapons really that bad? I planned making build with them.
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>Summoning for Dancer
>Almost 50% of the Phantoms have Mighty Ketena Folded 10000 Times
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>>334792331
A bit before firelink
Theres a naked undead guy that drops it when dead
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>>334792503
shotel?
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>>334790752
Not even close

Damage + Length + Speed + Moveset are the most important factors and all the Katana's fail on one end or another. The best of the katana's is the washing pole but even then its not great.

But weapon classes are all over the place, there are lots of good dex/strength weapons and lots of good and bad weapons within weapon groups which makes it all a bit messy.
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>>334792878
>Summoning for Dancer
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Is the Laito in the game?
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>>334792503
Literally everything you said is absolutely incorrect.

Well done, 10/10 bait
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>>334792807
is there a weapon that doesn't involve hitting R1 consecutively? please let me know.
oh and are there rings in the game that rely on consecutive hits??? okay, let me know, thanks.
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I'm having fun killing people using Anri's sword.
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>>334792990
>L
I think I'm biting the bait
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>>334793078
No
Yes
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>>334792503
Elder God Tier:
Murakumo
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>>334790752
Nigga my Carthus Curved Sword's doing better damage than that.
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>Acceptable katana users

Anyone who uses Master's attire
Anyone who uses Eastern Set
Anyone who uses no armor at all

>Unacceptable Katana Users
Literally anything else
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>>334790918
Go back sucking Polack dick, faggot tripfag.
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>>334790752
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>>334792878
>>Summoning for Dancer
kys
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III does a great job of making any weapon you choose a viable weapon. Pretty much failed at every other part of combat though.
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>>334792869

So far there are two fist weapons i seen, caetus and a fire variant. The caetus is pretty shit, its l2 is worthless and cant stun or have much range at all. The fire variant has a flaming double lariat as the l2 but im not sure how strong it is. The mannikin claws dropped from a npc invasion seems ok, quickstep is the l2 more range than the fists, and scales better with dex i think. Overall fist weapons are majorly weakened from the da2 days
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>>334793141
feel free to name the weapon where you don't need R1 to win duels.
i'll be waiting all night long.
and the second question was rhetorical, illustrating the purpose behind R1 attacking.

it's like people complaining about the AWP. get fucking good.
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>>334792869
Bad poise damage in general, very low damage. They use little stamina and you can hit quite a few times with them before running out, but your range is also abysmal.

I made a fists only character in DaS2 and had a whale of a time. The little I've experimented with the fist weapons in DaS3 (and I have most of them), I haven't been too impressed. They could do with a bit of a buff. Manikin Claws were fun to use on the odd NPC invader/armorless trash enemy, though.
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Muh dick bix nood mufugga
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>>334793114

Is that the blueblood sword of this game?
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>>334793194
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>>334792878
>Hosts summing me for ballsack tree
>75% are using the homeless katanaman sword
>Gets slam-jammed by the tree
Every fucking time and it never gets old
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>Estus heals you instantly again instead of slowly like 2

Th-thanks A-team
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>>334793325
Look at my answers again.
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>>334790752
>used the uchigatana
>bosses took multiple tries
>stunlocking was decent
>lost most PvP matches
>switch to a strength build starting with an axe
>beat each boss in a single try
>PvE using the Greataxe
>most enemies die in 1 hit and if they don't they are stunlocked for the 2nd hit which SHOULD finish them off
>PvP using the Smough's Great Hammer
>can beat 3 invaders together without any backup
>only lose to players with an extreme lag advantage
So no, I wouldn't even come close to calling it the ultimate weapon.
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>>334792141
>Too bad the Uchi moveset is boring.

The stance is fucking amazing, though.
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>>334793078

Yes, dual weapons have you spamming L1 instead
Yes, theres a ring and a spell that stacks for buffing consecutive hits obviously designed for said dual weapons. The spell is a but shit though
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>>334793325
yeah okay I'm biting. Remove jumping attack r2 charges, running r1 rolling r1 spacing blocking parrying spacing and forget about these new weapon arts.

Lets just grab havel and whatever estoc or dark sword and mash that r1. Yeah sure there is a lot of room in getting good there.

Been playing since Des, actually in Des there was more than just mindlessly mashing r1 for victory.
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>>334793526

I tried the greataxe, i didnt like the massive stamina drain too much
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>ED-- with split damage
>Ultimate weapon
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>>334793325
>it's like people complaining about the AWP
Except the AWP in CS requires some bit of skill while mashing R1 with a Dark Sword or Estoc just requires you to know where the buttons are on your controller because that's all that is needed with those weapons since you can facetank your opponent because hitting him at least once will guarantee you can stunlock him and kill him with 1/4 of your stamina bar
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>>334793526
whats your strategy with the fatty hammer? I'd love to use something like that in pvp effectively
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>>334790752
>Not just beating scrubs with the longsword
Seriously, feels like Bloodborne all over again; in that the starting weapon is the best overall.

I've wreaked 6 invaders in my first 8 hours all while just suited up with starting gear.
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>>334793916
Roll, roll, roll, roll, backstep, strafe right strafe left, backstep, roll then R1.
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>>334790752
man, 2h moveset for it is shit
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Dark Sword, Firelink Greatsword, Butcher Knife, Halberd, Lucerne, Gundyr's are the most OP weapons iv tried so far.

Firelink, Halberd and Butchers are definitely the top.
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>>334794074
for some reason this made me laugh really hard
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>>334793294
>>334793372
I see. Thanks. Yeah fist build was great fun in DaS2.
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>killing the helpless merchant for his curved sword that's also his only friend

cheap bastard
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>>334790752
>not washing pole
if you gonna go weeaboo faggot go big or go die
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>>334793372
>tfw literally spent dozens of hours with an ultra light armor quality dual caestus character in das2
>everything that was good about that build in pvp is now gone in das3

literally causing me physical pain to think about
at least they kept the based partizan moveset
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On my 3rd character.

Dark sword is objectively the best weapoin in game. Period.

I know it sucks, and it's boring meta shit, but it is.
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>Heavy Cathedral Knight Greatsword
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>>334794054
>he started with the longsword and not a fucking club
fucking scrub
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>>334790752
that would be the estoc or anri's sword.
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>>334794312
do i look like a filthy poor peasant caveman? thought so.
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>>334794278
Butcher is the most OP weapon. It has a better moveset, faster and longer range than Dark sword. Also scales better.

Yes, its that OP.
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>>334790752
Coulnt you post your weebshit complain in one of the thousands other threads on /v/
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>>334794312
based deprived homeless bum bro
>roleplay as a hungover homeless alcoholic that just woke up in a graveyard with no memory of the night before, and just kinda stumbles into a variety of ridiculous trouble
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>>334793695
104 stamina gives you enough to use R1 twice then dodge away. After 2 hits you lose stunlock so you want to be dodging away at that point anyways.

>>334793916
2 handed mode R1 has a wide swing and what appears to be super armor. If they fall victim for your first swing, you get a free 2nd hit which will either leave most players with very little health, or flat out kill the ones too foolish to invest heavily in HP. It is the bread and butter, although you should definitely learn to use the other moves too. Have 108 stamina so that you can have 3 swings, or 2 and a dodge. For anyone using a shield, you will teach them to put that shield away.
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>>334794348
i find it too easy to parry since a lot of invaders use its jumping attack
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>>334794508
Shouldnt judge a weapon off how bad people use it. Fact is that Butcher's blade is OP as shit.

Needs a speed nerf for sure.
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>>334794347
you'd have to post your character before any judgement could be passed
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>>334794173
Me too
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>>334794189
The run for iaito is always going to feel better.
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>>334790752
I'd prefer this rather than getting the best weapon at the very end of the game.
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>>334794348

>It has a better moveset

Arguable.

>faster

I don't think that's true at all.

>Also scales better.

Quality DS > Butcher. Quality DS is by far the best bang for your buck in terms of stamina drain and damage.
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>>334794541
I agree. I actually got frustrated with it on my first playthrough since it made the game feel too fucking easy. Went and rerolled a spearman and haven't looked back.
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How is the zweihander in pvp? I haven't found it yet and I am kinda curious if it is worth going out to find.
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>>334794576
true, especially because you upgrade you weapons
it's nice to not have to waste anything, and also to grow in power alongside your weapon
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>>334790752

>uchifag invades me in Undead Settlement
>i shank him with the AXE OF THE DEEP because it swings faster
>try to bait me with his parry
>toss him a firebomb and falls off the cliff

Axe of the deep is way better, assuming you start as knight so you can use it.
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So quality build is basically the meta build for the current state of the game, right? Faith and Int suck unless you invest like 60 points and strength is pretty underwhelming because of the underpowered UGS's.
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Why is claymore so shit this game, literally half way through game I went and made dex chara cause claymore felt so suffering and refuse to get dark meme weapon
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>fatrolling is changed from 50% to 70%
>the pros for using fatroll is decreased from 50% extra weight to 30%
They really want you to mid roll inthis game
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>>334794609
>Arguable.
Its not, the Butcher moveset can do the same things as the DS as well as different moves DS cant.

>I don't think that's true at all.
You think =/= fact. Fact is Butcher is faster.

>Quality DS > Butcher. Quality DS is by far the best bang for your buck in terms of stamina drain and damage.
Firstly, moving the goalposts. Second, no, the stanima drain difference is nearly negligible.
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>>334794541
i think the only op thing i consider is the hornets ring since pvp boils down to parry fests it really makes you oneshot most people
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>>334794716
>How is the zweihander in pvp?
You'll hit the host once and then he'll start hitting you a billion times with Dark Sword R1 spam as you finish your swing and kill you in 4 hits because his Dark Sword has a higher AR than your Zweihander.
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>>334794768
Claymore's fine.
>pokes for armoured targets
>swings for CC
>no bullshit weird arts
Refine and +9 that shit and you've got a fucking good weapon.
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>>334793194
Holy fuck that so fucking true.
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>>334794868
well shit
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>>334794721

>axe of the deep

What is this? The small axe you get from the dunce cap midgets?
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>>334794986
The tower on the High Wall that the dragon's trying to prevent you from going in.
It's got a mimic that drops a Deep Battle Axe.
Fucking good weapon for early game.
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>>334794986

the axe you get from the Mimic in HWoL in the tower with the Dragon.
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>>334794773

>Firstly, moving the goalposts.

Nope, just arguing for the maximum potential DS (which is quality, not strength) versus maximum potential Butcher (which is strength). If you want to compare them both when using +10 and a str build, the Butcher still loses out in damage by significant margin.
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>>334794945

>Refine and +9 that shit and you've got a fucking good weapon.

It's fine until you realise that, when upgraded to +10, it does only marginally more damage per swing than a straight sword.
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So how do i find fume sword
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>>334795341
Yeah, so?
I like my claymore.

>>334795394
Demon ruins. Find and kill the guy who stole Tarkus' armour.
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>>334795394
It's in area filled with a million basilisks and then you have to fight an NPC
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I just found the gargoyle fire scepter. This seems like a maximum fun weapon. Is it viable for pvp?
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>>334795259
Should I bother with pyromancy or any other magic if I went with quality DS build? (yes I did it before it became popular). I was thinking about picking up the pyro fire weapon buff or power within but not sure if it's even worth it.
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Which spear is best spear?
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>>334795625
Swordspear
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>>334795540

I mean, using the pyro sword buff at 10/10 isn't too bad if you have a fully-upgraded flame. It's definitely better than DMB/lightning blade.
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>>334791575
>can't tell the difference between soda and liquid

tripfags fall under namefags you fucking retard.
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>>334795537
If you like using it, it's viable.
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>>334795735

Is cathus beacon or power within good?
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>>334790752
>what is zweihander
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>>334795764
Up until a katana running attack abusing kid wrecks you.
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>>334795827
The Pontiff's Right Eye with Gotthard's Twinswords is ridiculously OP so I imagine stacking it with Carthus Beacon would be even more so. Not sure if it's worth the extra 4 levels though.
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>Use the spear the knights drop in the first area
>Think its meh but like the moveset and the cloth hanging off it
>The charges and backstep->long thrust completely demolishes people online

Is the spear actually good or are people just that bad?
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>>334791575
See >>334795747.
Also it is not like either of them have a reason to exist, except in very specific kinds of threads.
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>>334795827
Beacon is crap. It's barely usable with fast hitting dual weapons. Classic weapon buffs like lightning buff are still the best.
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What is the best str weapon on this game
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>lifehunt scythe gone
>only have the regular scythe+10 and Frost Scythe+5
>Stick mostly to my FarronGS+5
well, I guess it's still fun but I loved the LHScythe from 1. Maximum fun
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>>334795625
Dragonslayer by far.
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>>334795871
Just because meta shitters are spreading their cancer doesn't mean you have to add to it.
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>>334795923

The buff takes 2 slots, higher requirements, shorter duaration 30 secs i think, weak initial bonus and weak maximum bonus that is further devalued by its short duration. Maybe im not using it right or maybe my flame isnt strong. Can anyone confirm?
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>>334793916
Roll R1.

I use the great club, grass crest on the back.

Its fairly good if you're desparate and need to block, but roll around like a fruit and roll + r1 is a real nice sweep.
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Why is the darksword a meme weapon? Is it meant to be great for PvE because of the scaling? Because it's fucking shit in PvP, I've never lost to a darksword fag and I still use that Deep Battleaxe from fucking highwall.
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>>334796073
life hunt sythe is a spell now casual
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How do I git gud at pvp?

I've been invading a ton and hanging out embered to get invaded and summoning mound makers constantly. I usually win 1v1s but unless I get lucky with mobs and/or plunge attack I get my shit pushed in super hard against 2+v1. I assume most of my wins are because lolestoc. Been trying to practice parrying but unless they're mashing r1 and I get the first hit blocked I can't get the timing down.
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>Want to dick about with magic
>Oh yeah the MLGS is in

>D/E/C
>Split damage
>Can't be Infused or Buffed

For what purpose.
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>>334795871
>Implying

They always stop it after ten minutes of me rolling past them, then they mess up in their frustration.
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>>334793502
gay

>>334793646
i can't do R1 spam against people with Farron's or against people who know how to use shields properly.
i use all that shit with Estoc, not just R1 spam, doesn't work on everyone.

>>334793759
"some bit of skill" yeah, just a tiny bit, the ability to aim at something and shoot, whoa.
also, good luck face tanking someone with a shield and heavy armor.
you can't trade blows with an Estoc, trust me, i've tried.

basically straight sword haters expect people who use these weapons to only poke once and dance around like a clown, i guess that is preferable?
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>>334796349
PvP fags demanded 'balance'.
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>>334793325
>feel free to name the weapon where you don't need R1 to win duels.
Gotthard's Twinswords
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I'm a professional cowboy and I use catheters. Been cowboyin for 40 years and I know pain and I don't want anymore of it. Especially when I cath.
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>>334790752
Stupid Baka Gaijin, everyone knows that folded japanese steel could cut through knights armer like butter and when nippon invaded europe in 1308 they conquered and defeated the foolish stupid bakas and formed the grolious empire of europon
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>>334796229
Because new players cannot parry, arguably older ones cant too, either they dont wield a shield or they lag. It has a real good stat gain and is easy + fast to use.

It's Dark souls 3 zweihander.

I would argue a lot of people familiar with the games are more interested in other weapons + ring combo's, rings can do a shittonne in pvp
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>>334796139
This. DaS2 was already fucked thanks to blacksteel nuthin personnels shooting hexes out of their ass and flipping in havels. Don't start it on 3
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>Status bonuses
>E
>D
Garbage
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>>334796478
>look guys, i'm not using R1!
>presses a button that does the same thing as R1
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>>334796531
Ah yes of course, the invasion of Europe was Emperor Hanazono's first edict when he ascended to the throne as I recall.
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>>334796538
Well you say that but I don't use a shield. I just really feel like the range is too short to be such a popular weapon.

Like I can see perfectly why Farron Memesword was a thing, but I don't get this, it's too easy to counter.
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>>334796630
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>>334791739
I started with Herald and beat Sonic the Hedgehog with the spear on my first attempt. All that Bloodborne skill transfer man.
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Nodachi and dark blade are better.
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>>334796735
dang you got me.
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>>334796353
but estoc r1 spam works on shielded opponents. It should not, but holy fuck it does.
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Personally I've been smashing people with Murakumo. If they R1or parry spam or try to Uchifag stance bait the weapon art eats their lunch. Dancers Twinswords are nice too, most dickwraiths dont prepare for two elemental damage types and the moveset is nice and varied.

All else fails Farron Greatsword 2 handed L1 is usually a safe bet and its got a decent parry too.
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>>334796828
I see people just wailing on shields with their weapon all the time, like why don't you just kick?

You can see the fag relies on his shield too much and you can even kick mid combo if you want to hit R1 a few times first to make sure he's still going to block.
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is there any halberd better than the halberd?
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>those faggots who parry spam and running attack spam
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>>334796786
seriously I think you're much better coming from Bloodborne then you are the Souls series.

I had real trouble getting to grips with the speed and movement of the rolls when first coming into the game, they are a lot more fluid and fast akin to bloodborne, which I barely played.

(just wasn't a fan of lovecraftian and the CLUTTER)
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>>334792869
I wanted something fast on my strength guy so I got the fire fists and they're great, not so good at PVP and worse than regular weapons, but they're fun to use
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>I chose the Wolf greatsword over the Farron greatsword

I literally got cucked
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>>334796930
kick = getting stunlocked to death by r1 mashers.
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>two handing your shield and bashing a spammer off a fucking bridge
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>>334796930
Most people who turtle up on me always backpedal or try to kite me to enemies like the insufferable shitters they are so I can't ever get a kick in. The amount of invaders hiding behind AI is infuriating.
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>>334791537
Its useless, because your weapons replenish at bonfires.

I fought Oceiros 5 times yesterday and it almost broke my weapon. 15/50 remaining
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>he doesn't 2h a katana the whole game

GET FUCKING GOOD
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>>334790752
thats not boring eztoc or ice rapier whatever its called

stab stab stab stab stab stab stab
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>>334797036
Nah m80, Farron GS is shit and only interesting for the meme moveset
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>>334790752
Are you fucking serious?

Other than the bleed effect this weapon is terrible.
Range is god awful and the move set is the absolute worth.
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>>334790752
>want to do coop at the rooftops before Anor Londo since i like fighting the silver knights with people
>get invaded by red faggot
>pop giant tree seed to try it out
>doesnt do jack shit
>blue faggot joins and doesnt get debuffed by the giant tree seed because from are fucking idiots
>both double team and stun lock me to death with dark swords
i fucking hate this community
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>>334797131
>two handing any weapon with no str scaling
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>>334796538
Which is irritating considering they brought back + rings for no real reason. Now I have to waste Boss Souls for better Havel Rings instead of settling on getting every weapon in the game, or go and look for the better ones in NG+

Also their new fucking covenant choices are a bit irritating
>3 variants of the Forest Hunters
>No Gravelord equivalent
>Included both Darkmoon and Blue Sentinels instead of keeping just one in
Filthy blues; really wish we had working Gravelording, it would be glorious.
>inb4 Red Phantom Curse Spider-things
>mfw
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>>334797063
Read the last half of my second sentence.

>>334797097
Ahh, the shieldfags I find are the ones who hold their shield up while they try to fish for backstabs.

Here's a tip, the straightswords and a few greatswords have the "stance" ability, the R1 with this is a guardbreak and works wonders usually and should work wonders on those fags too.
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>>334790752
Dark Souls Boardgame Kickstarter, Today 8pm GMT!
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>>334797203
>Using weapons with shit weapon arts.
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>>334797251
>Curse Spider-things
That fucking thing in Cathedral of the Deep and how fucking silent it is while dropping behind you

Literally peenus weenus tier
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>>334797251
>3 variants of the Forest Hunters
>3

I'm seeing this stated everywhere and I thought people were just exaggerating like typical /v/ fashion but I'm seeing it way too often.

What's the third? There's Wolf fags, Uldritch fags and?
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People talking shit bout my uchi?
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>>334797257
Ahhhh. Murakumos spinning weapon art is decent for breaking guards too if you land it and extend with R2. Thanks for the tip too
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>>334797441
And that's it. There's only 2, it's just people being faggots
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>>334794749

Greatshield + estoc is OP as shit. Switch to target shield when applicable for fun parry time.
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>>334797251
They got rid of interesting covenants for a lot of the same thing, I would argue even the rat's in 2 are a lot more interesting then the same red phantom, different color set that we have at the moment.

Not going to lie I was pretty annoyed when I saw things other then weapons to transmod, I know its to increase replay but not sure this was the way to do so.
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>>334790752
who /faith/ build here? what weapons are you using?
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>>334792141
You loved the DaS1 Uchi but think the DaS3 iteration is boring when it has the exact same moveset, plus a rolling R2, a follow-up standing R2, the Iaido's gap-closer and a parry?
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>>334797710
I'll save you time. Everyone will either answer "I'm using a garbage weapon that sucks" or "I'm using the Dragonslayer Swordspear and Sunlight Sword"
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>>334797710
I was at first but then respeced because they get no fucking miracles besides heals for fucking ages and I missed the area behind the gate that had lightning spear.
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>>334797276
http://steamforged.com/dark-souls-kickstarter/
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>>334797710

Talisman
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>>334797710
Large club. Strong a lightweight, you can rock the cleric garb set and the club without investing in additional points in Vitality. Not the most RP friendly but I feel if youre going to rock a faith/str character you best be using a hammer
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>>334797873
yeah it was pretty suffering until i managed to get lightning blade. basically just got carried with a raw sword for the first half of the game until then.

faith definitely doesn't pick up until 30+ or so, though.
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>>334797710
just a blessed bastard sword
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>>334796985
>parrying is easier than ever in PvP
>all these faggot Dark Sword and Estoc niggers just running up to me and trying to mindlessly mash R1 because they're scrubs and forget they have other buttons on their controller
>almost always land the parry on their 1st or 2nd attack
>hornet ring guarantees that the one parry is all I need to shut them the fuck down as they realize mindlessly mashing a button and hoping to win doesn't work
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>>334791980
DSIII in a nutshell
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>>334797710
I think Faith could really use a melee type of casted miracle. Magic has the flashsword and the greatsword, Pyromancy has GCFO which is basically best used in melee range as well as Sacred Flame.

I get that it's mostly focused on buffing, but just something melee would make it more enjoyable.
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Longsword, shortsword or broadsword?
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>>334791521
never thought id see a Duncan MacLeod webm in /v/
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>fist weapons are dogshit
>miracles are dogshit
>your qt aryan crusader is dogshit
Thanks From
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>>334792503
>polearms are always ok to bad
my sadness runs deep
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>>334798085
>>parrying is easier than ever in PvP
But it's literally the same as DS2
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>>334794189
I thought yulia was the basket next to him, since he's petting it
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>>334798195
>first weapons are dogshit
>straight swords are OP

Pick one.
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>>334795103
>Dragon
is the only way to kill this thing just pelt it with 100 arrows?
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>>334798263
No it isn't I could never parry consistently in either DaS1 or DaS2 PvP but then I start trying to parry in DaS3 and I'm landing 80% of my parries with zero practice
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>>334798378
Parrying in DS3 is exactly the same as DS2, I don't know what to tell you. Actually it's worse because partial parries don't block as much damage and use much more stamina now.
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>>334798195
>he doesn't know about lightning blade
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>>334798150
Broadsword doesn't have the disadvantage of the the previous games (no thrust attack) so that makes it slightly better.
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>>334798085
I've beaten tons of fags who tried spamming parry against my dark sword mash and I guess that on PC network is just too shitty. Sometimes I hit them literally through parry animation.
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>>334798429
Teach me please, I don't want to suffer like this anymore, all my miracles do NOTHING
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>>334790752
The Black Blade is literally the same weapon as the Uchi except it does more damage.
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So are there any confirmed new items/armor/weapons that only drop in NG+, anything special other than harder enemies, +1 items and swapped item locations?
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>>334798716
all i found were upgraded rings nothing new yet
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>slash

>best anything (other than greatswords)

Slash is shit, thrust is best, that's why the fucking rapiers are satan.
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>>334798797
>other than greatswords
you mean there are plebians that use anything else?
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>>334798491
lightning blade enchantment adds your spell buff in additiona lightning damage. at SL 75, i end up doing enough damage to 3-5 shot an invader with a straight sword.

it's also quite handy against most enemies in PvE, notably the invading NPC spirits.
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Best armor, best Greatsword.
Best moveset.
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>>334799025

Yeah, people like me who use great hammers.
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Soo anyway wanna help a massive casual out with killing dancer? Already beat him on my first character but jesus christ I want the chaos blade right now to butt blast ganksquads but I cannot muster the ability to kill dancer immediately after vordt when I'm only hitting for 64
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>>334799130
i like the looks but they just move far to slowly you just poke them after every swing and they are forced to panic retreat all fight
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>>334799068
Too bad Carthus Flame Arc is stronger with a maxed out flame and it has reasonable requirements.

The real reason to go faith is to use the Dragonslayer Swordspear.
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>>334799207

Yeah they're crap in PvP but I usually try to avoid PvP because I'm ass at it even with good weapons.

Smacking shit with huge blunt weapons is just so fun.
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Anyone tried out how Ricard's Rapier works with the Beacon pyromancy?

I was thinking about doing a Power Within+Beacon+Moonlight Blade + some other things build and I have no idea if it works like that.
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What class should I pick for my first DaS1 run? Thinking warrior or bandit
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>>334799439

A different game.
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>>334797710
Black Blade infused with lightning, if you are into gorillion times folded steel.
Dark Blade infused with lightning, if you are into straightswords.
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>>334793706
>ED

Erectile Dysfunction is your ultimate weapon anon?
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>>334799068

Does pumping faith up the damage noticeably?
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>>334791521
Highlander best.
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>straight swords have always been great
>people only bitching now and apparently using light attack is dishonorable
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>>334799521
It is for some people, yeah.
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>>334799439
Knight a better class stat wise. Least points pumped into useless luck, has a slot for 1 magic like weapon buff. Deprived is THE best of course but it's not for pussies. Having 10 in all stats on level 1 is imbalanced as fuck.
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>>334791521
>dex/faith build invading in Grand Archives.webm
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>>334793160
where i can get that bad boy in DS3? i loved that one in first one
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>>334799596
They've become an easy as fuck crutch now because in this game you can literally R1 stunlock an enemy to death, and due to being able to just attack non-stop their DPS is fucking higher than slower weapons. Past games would punish this behavour so people would go to other weapons and you wouldn't have a straight sword in 90% of PvP situations.

But no, not in DarkBorne, apparently enemies have negative poise.
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>>334799646
npc invasion on the way to irthyll dungeon
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>>334799615
>Having 10 in all stats on level 1 is imbalanced as fuck

It has the same amount of level 1 stat points as every other class.
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There's supposed to be black knight with axe in smoldering lake, where?
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>>334792503
*straight swords
the shortsword is ass
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>>334793160
Isn't that a strict downgrade from the Exile Sword in every way besides weight?
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>>334797710
Im using a STR build but i want to reroll get into faith, and use a claymore (probably a blessed claymore) and lightning weapon

do i have to delete the str and get dex+faith for a claymore build? they look like they scale better with dex as long as you have the minimum str
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>>334799797
Behind an illusory wall.
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>>334799797
Go down from demon ruins bonfire, reach the room with the 3 BB monsters and 2 statues, then go left in the tunnel.
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>>334799869
Wasn't that regular sword guy? I'm doing ng+ and I can't remember where he was anymore, but he was fighting the goat demon right?

>>334799894
thanks
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Using twin blades and pointiff curved sword. Is it worth switching to this?
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>>334799917
That's him, he's got an axe but you find the sword in that room as an item.
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>>334790752
Thanks for the laugh, OP.
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Where the fuck did people find this clapping gesture? It must be pretty early in the game as well.
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>tfw wanted to punch shit dead like i did in ds2
Why did they gimp fist weapons so bad?
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>>334790752
You could get the zweihander just after you finish the undead asylum in DS1
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>>334800076
talk to leonhard
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>>334792869
I tried them all and they are so awful that I'd not recommend a fist build for any purpose but a challenge run. If you desperately want to use your "hand" go pyro. The +10 flame is better than any fist weapon.
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>>334800115
because there's no real balancing yet
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>>334799917
This guy take forever to reach, farm the one right outside of Champion bonfire.
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