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CODENAME "NEO" PS4.5 THREAD >Sony seems committed
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CODENAME "NEO" PS4.5 THREAD

>Sony seems committed to keeping the NEO and the original PS4 player bases connected. As such, there will be no NEO-only games, and Sony will not let developers separate NEO users from original PS4 players while playing on PSN. Likewise, Sony explicitly and repeatedly states that developers cannot offer exclusive gameplay options or special unlockables for NEO players—so don’t expect NEO owners to get a level editor or a special Rocket League car that you won’t have access to on your original PS4.

>Games running in NEO mode will be able to use the hardware upgrades (and an additional 512 MiB in the memory budget) to offer increased and more stable frame rate and higher visual fidelity, at least when those games run at 1080p on HDTVs. The NEO will also support 4K image output, but games themselves are not required to be 4K native.

Original PS4

CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 1.6 GHz
GPU: AMD GCN, 18 CUs at 800 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 176 GB/s

NEO
CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 2.1 GHz
GPU: Improved AMD GCN, 36 CUs at 911 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 218 GB/s

Thoughts? It's over 200% of the raw power and nearly double the GPU bandwidth. Only the CPU is not seeing a major facelift.
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>>334774240
>Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 218 GB/s
Is this the graphic card or primary RAM. I can never tell with these custom made consoles.
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>>334774240
isn't this just for vr?
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>>334774240
Another tablet APU?
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Just look at the graphics...
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So why are all the leaks that come out so different? I mean, they aren't worlds apart, but there are inconsistencies.
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>>334774240
>As such, there will be no NEO-only games,
Wait, then what's the point?
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So if it's not splitting the user base then what's the problem?

>>334774538
I still love this movie.
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>>334774865
vr probably
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>>334774240
how can they get away with this bros?
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>>334774240
Isn't this just a rumor tho?
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4K IS HERE!!!!!
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>>334774947

Yeah, same. I'm a Reloaded fan as well. Shit there are parts of Revolutions I even like.
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>>334774865
>'Additionally, games released in the late September window will require a day one patch that updates them to NEO standards'.
Slightly better graphics & framerate I guess. If they mentioned late Sept hopefully FFXV gets the patch as well.
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>>334775013
it's obviously true at this point.

Constant rumors from supposedly reputable sources and Sony hasn't debunked anything after two months of these leaks happening. The only issue is that no one really knows what it is exactly.

One leak says that it will be out by the end of the year while another says it will be out in 2017. One says that it can't do 4k games and one says it can. One says there is only a GPU upgrade and the other one says it's GPU,CPU, etc. One leak says it will have exclusives while another says it won't.

I'm just waiting for Sony to just come out and say what it really is. I personally think it's just a Slim PS4 with 4k video playback for movies and tv shows.
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>>334774865
better performance
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So how much VRAM does the PS4 currently have?
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I still haven't seen a single thing that has convinced me a ps4.5 exists. People said the same for the ps3 and those rumors were forgotten as soon as they were made.
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>>334775150
Does anyone in the US broadcast in 4k?
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>>334775263

I guess to a certain degree Nintendo does play a significant role in the industry. It's still setting some trends. People knock them for not having the foothold they used to, but their competitors still emulate certain things they do.
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>>334775013
When a rumor gets this big and important people are even coming with new sources every day its pretty much guaranteed. A few weeks I was laughing at how unlikely it was but now I believe in the One.
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>>334774538
That CGI holds up surprisingly well for being 15 years old.
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>>334775359
Live broadcast? I don't think so.

Pretty sure Netflix has some 4k and there are 4k blu-ray/dvd's now.
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>>334774424
it's actually the same one just overclocked I think.
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>>334774538
I thought Reloaded was good.
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So are they saying a PS4 game can be bought and played on a "Neo" and then patched for better performance?
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>>334775418

You got the gift. But it looks like you're waiting for something. Your next life maybe, who knows.
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>Codename Neo

I'm calling it, this is either going to be necessary for PSVR or PSVR will be shit without it.
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>>334775558
Yes but how many devs will bother to make a patch?
FROM games are tied to framerate, so for BB to be patched to 60 fps they'd have to reanimate the entire game. Will they really do that?
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>>334775661

>Codename Morpheus
>Codename Neo

Are they really doing this?
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>>334775661
Did you make that assessment because the PSVR was nicknamed Morpheus?
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>>334775351
>I still haven't seen a single thing that has convinced me a ps4.5 exists. People said the same for the ps3 and those rumors were forgotten as soon as they were made.

Source?

Also if it's fake why hasn't Sony said anything? If it was fake surely they would say so. Didn't Nintendo debunk those NX leaks that everyone thought was real?
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>I'm going to have to buy another console to properly play Kingdom Hearts 3

Oh my fucking God I'm going to kill myself. I bought a PS3 for it and then a PS4 for it. NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BUY A PS4.5 FOR IT.
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>>334775815

I think the creator of that goofy controller debunked it himself. A gafer created it. Figures
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>>334775475
oh, ok.
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>>334775815
>Didn't Nintendo debunk those NX leaks that everyone thought was real?
Nope.
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>>334774240
And this is how you do it, Nintendo.
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FFXV won't look like ass anymore, I'm hyped cuz I don't own a PS4 yet
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>>334775918
make sure to save some money for KH3FM UHD on PS5
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>>334775760
I wonder what the Wachowski Sisters think about that.
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>>334775918

NEVER EVER
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So what's bad about this exactly? Sounds like no one misses out on anything.

>>334776067
Square will have to patch it to work with PS4 Neo's capabilities.
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>>334775250
I think it will do 4K video output but will also likely be more powerful, with games designed to take advantage of it. This is the worst console generation ever and the PS4, despite being the strongest of them, was outdated even on release. This generation can't go for another 5 years or so without a power upgrade so they're stealthily upgrading to another generation without losing all their fans.
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>>334776040
Nintendo already did it first with the N3DS.

Sony, like always, it copying their moves, just like the Move, Off TV play, and motion control.
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When can we start shitposting about
>he bought an OG PS4
like we did with the N3DS?
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>>334776292

After the PS4.5 super slim gets released.
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I don't get it.

It's a PS4, but doesn't play anything a PS5 wouldn't? Whats the fucking point

>Muh frames

Literally could not give a fuck.This is a retarded move sony.
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>>334776173
>This is the worst console generation ever and the PS4, despite being the strongest of them, was outdated even on release. This generation can't go for another 5 years or so without a power upgrade

People say this every single gen.
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>>334776136
Considering it comes out in September it sounds like Sony is outright requiring them to release a performance patch.
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>>334775918
>buying a console for a game that isn't out
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>>334774350

Both

The piece of shit is the same hardware with a slightly higher cpu clock and more cus

>sonycucks claiming 4k modern native games

Top cuck
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>>334776358

It sounds retarded, but at this point can they really do anything they can't get away with? After PS3 you would think everyone would be done with them, but here they are buying 30 million PS4s. Also, even if PS4 would fail, would that even stop Sony? I'm willing to bet they'll make another handheld after Vita. Who knows, maybe this time people will buy that by the 10s of millions too. They tend to forgive them no matter what, and no amount of fuckups stops them from doing shit.
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>>334776136
PS4 owners will never get the kind of performace late in the game that there was with the PS2 and PS3 because all the "pretty" games and effects will be made for the next one. Anyone without the Neo will be getting a gimped copy devs put out with minimal effort. There isn't incentive to push pixels.
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>>334775312
It has a unified memory pool, I think. It's up to the devs to decide how they want to split it up. I think like 2 or 3GB is reserve for the OS, though.
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>>334774240
So will games finally get all the way up to rock solid 30FPS?
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>>334775471
>15 years old
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>PlayStation Neo
>NeoGaf becomes "PS4NeoGaf" as if it wasn't already before
can we change /v/'s name to New Nintendo 3DSGaf
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>>334775538
It was good. All 3 of the movies were good.
The first one was just so huge that everyone wanted the next two to impress them just as much, which in the Matrix's case is really fucking hard.
Also, did you know that one of the watchowski "brothers" is a trannie now?
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>>334777050
>one

both now.
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>>334777050
both of them are trannies and both of the sequels were ass
sorry brah
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>>334777119
does your mom know you save this stupid shit on the living room computer?
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>>334776358
>Literally could not give a fuck
just because you're content with cinematic frames doesn't mean everyone else is
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PS4 NEO + PSVR + Ace Combat 7.
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Time for silky smooth 30fps
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>>334776116
>Sisters
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>still using crappy Jaguar junk cores

What was the point of this """""""""""""""""""upgrade"""""""""""""""""""" again?
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>>334777792
Better performance and VR.
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>>334774240
I had high hopes, but they ended up disappointing me again.

Those fucks are probably gonna charge $399 again as well and do nothing about current PS4 owners
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>>334777863
the extra gpu power aint gonna amount to much if the shitty cpu cant keep up.
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>>334775471
>15 years
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>>334774538
How could the people who made the Matrix make this shit? It doesn't make any sense...
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Are the Matrix sequels any good, Revolutions got some bad ratings
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>>334775263
theres a difference between nintendo putting out an upgraded model to improve the games that need it(and are the top sellers) due to the hardware being shit for its day and age. Not defending nintendo on this but they have been doing this since the gba and people are used to it by now and should expect it.


Compared to Sony shitting this out for more sales because Devs are shitty and dont know how to properly optimize, seriously what the fuck. PS3 and 360 had some amazing optimizations that never should have been possible on that kind of hardware yet games are being made with the same resolution and struggle with 30 fps without any major improvements to textures or draw distances. Did everyone just decide to say "Fuck it" and throw their games at the improved hardware and assume it would be fine because its stronger? Im seriously baffled by this shit
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>>334778439
There was that rumor that the sisters/brothers stole the original plot of Matrix but then again, everyone loses their touch and is bound to make a mediocre film. Just about every director has one unfavorable film, prove me wrong.
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>>334778439
How could they make this shit?
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>>334776548
I don't think anyone was saying that without talking about a price tag of $1000, Xqueer.
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This could potentially make FFXIV faster once they drop PS3 support and utilize the new ps4 hardware.

Not gonna buy one but Im happy that my game benefits from this ripoff
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>>334778513

Reloaded is fun, but not nearly as good as the original. It has some of the most iconic scenes in the trilogy too. Revolutions is complete trash that is only worth watching just to say you watched it.
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>>334778513

anything beyond the first Matrix was shit.

and The Matrix wasn't exactly an original concept, either. It was just in the right place at the right time with the right WOAH
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>>334778683
I liked it
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>>334778592
>literally it's okay when nintendo does it: the post
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>>334775471
>>334776815
>>334778151

It's only 13, calm down nigs.
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>>334774538
Was this whole scene cgi? I can't even tell.
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>>334778975
>only 13
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>almost double the cu's
>games won't be exclusive
with graphic and performance so pitiful they might as well be exclusive
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>>334778592
3DS is also pretty much at the end of its lifetime. There's not going to be many AAA titles we won't be able to play on vanilla.

PS4 is just getting started. We don't know what Sony will do with the original release regardless of what they say. No system will be supported forever. It's possible a formal announcement will put some fears at ease.
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>recently bought a PS4 like /v/ told me to
>a better version is already coming out
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>>334779131
>bought a PS4 like /v/ told me to
nice bait
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Who's more upset by this: PS4 owners realizing they bought a PS3.5? or xboners knowing their console was obsolete on launch day and is now not even going to be in the same league?
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>>334774240
They would have to be fucking stupid not to put a better CPU in it. The main issue the gen is the CPU bottlenecking everything. If it really is such a shitty update then what the fuck is the point if it's just going to have the exact same issues.
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>>334774538

Matrix gets away with aged CGI because it fits with the universe.
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I'm sure this is less about games and more about being able to properly play content that Sony Pictures is producing.
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>>334779219
Even if what op is saying... It is still a fucking terrible out of date pos in 2016.
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>>334778592
>console is constantly pondered too by devs
>it's the devs not knowing how to optimize for the system they suck the most dick for
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>>334779219

I'd say everyone should be equally upset. I'm not even mad, just disappointed by it all. This whole generation is a goddamned joke.
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>>334778592
>Compared to Sony shitting this out for more sales because Devs are shitty and dont know how to properly optimize, seriously what the fuck. PS3 and 360 had some amazing optimizations that never should have been possible on that kind of hardware yet games are being made with the same resolution and struggle with 30 fps without any major improvements to textures or draw distances. Did everyone just decide to say "Fuck it" and throw their games at the improved hardware and assume it would be fine because its stronger? Im seriously baffled by this shit

This entire post is pretty much wrong. PS3 games, at least at the start of the gen, were fucking poorly optimized. If you say otherwise you're retarded.
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>>334778643
it's not a rumor they stole it from some black woman who sued and won
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>>334779304
That's what I think and am personally hoping for. What's the point of releasing a 4.5 and not just waiting for the inevitable 5?
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>>334774538
Remember when agents were a big deal in the first movie? Yeah, me neither.
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>>334778891
You liked all the dicks didn't you
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>>334779494
And that didn't change at the end. Gta 5 died hardcore as soon as it had to do something demanding.
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>>334779493
I think PCfags should be happy about this. Maybe console ports will be less graphically downgraded now.
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>>334779219
There's also multiple rumors about an Xbox1.5.
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>>334779683
Multiplats play like crap on the PS3, that's undeniable. Half way through the gen exclusives were decently optimized for the console. I was actually surprised when I played Killzone 2 and it never really dipped below 30 frames very often.
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>>334779687
Why? Even the most average GPU puts these new stats to shame.
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These specs cannot do native 4k, let alone upscaled 4k. Who are these leakers trying to fool?
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>>334779131

>fell for sonycuck lies and the ps4 meme

Enjoy your online sub
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>>334779493
Doesn't affect me, I'm a PCfag. I just like watching dogs fight.
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>>334779938
>tfw have ps4 but never gave a fuck about multiplayer so I don't buy PS+
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>>334779839
That doesn't really help when a game is downgraded at the core for consoles, now does it?
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>>334779910
Trojan horse for 4k Bluray

I wouldn't put it past Sony to try to market it as apprearing doing that though.
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>>334779839
It will bridge the gap a bit, but like the first PS4 it will be obsolete by the time it hits the shelves.
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>>334778439

Matrix films were made by brothers
Jupiter was made by sisters.
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>>334779131
This, except /v/ didn't tell me to. My friend(s) had a PS4 and I was finally able to afford one comfortably a couple months ago.

And I'm fucking obsessed with the recent developments in VR, making this so much worse.

I just fucking know they're going to make their VR thing PSNEO exclusive, and PSNEO won't be able to play any pre-neo PS4 games in VR.

And I would just wait until the real next generation of consoles, where one would expect to see VR platforms out of their "intro" phase and improved upon, but I have this dreadful feeling that much like the Kinect and PSEye, the VR technology will be lackluster and fall flat, and instead of improving on it, they'll just drop it altogether, so the only way to play anything in VR will be to buy an old PSNEO, PSVR headset, and the handful of VR-compatible PSNEO games that will come out.

I mean, I hope it doesn't turn out like that, I really do, but the AAA-Developer-Age of video games has taught me never to get my hopes up.
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>>334774240
I bet that shit doesn't even have sata 3 yet.
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>>334780421
Just like Hideo and Kojima?
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>>334778643
>The lawsuit was dismissed with the judge ruling Stewart and her attorneys “had not entered any evidence to bolster its key claims or demonstrated any striking similarity between her work and the accused directors’ films,” according to Snopes. The defendants were awarded $305,235.62 in attorney fees, but Stewart said they never collected.

>The defendants were awarded $305,235.62 in attorney fees, but Stewart said they never collected.
lmao
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>>334774240

You would think that they would be able to wait until Zen came out and get Basilisk APUs instead of Puma cores, but I guess there's too many differences for that to happen and it's the only thing they can do.

Faster Jaguar, "improved AMD GCN" and slightly more bandwidth on the GDDR5 8 GBs doesn't seem like it would fill in the gaps to run VR well enough or even reach 1080p 60 FPS on games.

So basically, it's nothing.
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>>334780489
No, Hideo and kojima hate eachother and have been trying to sabotage one another since mgs 4.

And we're all caught in the middle.
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Cool that the GPU is almost an R9 290 (yep seriously, look it up). But the shit CPU really needs to be at least 3GHz.
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>>334774240
AW MAN NOW I CAN PLAY GAMES WITH EVEN BETTER GRAPHICS! LIKE

>Bloodborne
AND
AND


.....AAAND....
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>>334780684

Inproved gpu implies it's the same architecture. Wonder how much of a difference there is between gcns gens

I imagine its closer to a 7970 but the cpu drags it to 30 fps

Likely the best they can do gven the new shit isn't going to meet a 400 dollar price tag
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>>334780941
Uncharted 4 and the new ratchet and clank . nice try shitposting
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>>334780994
>3 games
>after 3 years
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>>334780941
And all the multiplats
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>>334781073
name 3 pc exclusives
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>>334781073
Also knack
you're bad at this
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>>334780994
>new ratchet and clank
>new
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>>334780981
Does CPU have such a large bearing on FPS? I thought the primary bottleneck was GPU side.
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>>334780941
> It's over 200% of the raw power

With that spec? Hell fucking no.
The new spec at most will give it 40% more raw power.
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>>334775918
>PC's are expensive guys!!
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>>334781148
60 FPS
120 FPS
144 FPS
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>>334779131
>Buying consoles
>Ever
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>>334781260
Ohhh shit
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>>334781073
>Bloodborne
>Infamous
>Disgaea 5
>Ratchet and Clank
>Driveclub
>Until Dawn

I don't even like the PS4 but we can't use this shitpost anymore.
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>>334781201
GPU is what matters more, but the CPU still has to be good enough to keep up with the GPU. No point in a strong GPU if you pair it with a weak CPU.
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>>334781260
why does fps matter when you cant even run games without crashing
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>>334781260
- There are 60fps games on ps4
- Placebo
- Placebo
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If i can play BB in 60 fps ill be happy, dont give a fuck if i have to pay more for it, since theres 0 chance its coming to pc
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>>334781114
multiplats don't all of a sudden get better performance on ps4. and they still won't be better than on pc.

>>334781176
>knack
>good
pick one

>>334781148
Firewatch
Unreal Tournament
Overwatch
Routine
Survarium
Pretty much all mobas
Pretty much all RTS games
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>>334781238
Lol check out this dumbfuck who has no idea about percentages of flops lmao
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>>334781349
>PC gaming is hard
meme better
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>>334781421

You still wont even get 30 fps.
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>>334781201

The ps4 is already being bottlenecked by its cpu

To hit mostly 60 you're going to need it

With this it looks like their intention is keep 30 but bump eyecandy but a jaguar was always a joke

Should have waited for zen
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>>334774240
>Over clocked console

So basically you'll end up paying couple hundred more for extra cooling so you can get a smooth fps of 35?
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>>334776570
What was so bad about PS3?
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>>334777050
I actually liked 2 better than 3.

People seemed to like 3 but i hate that they butchered the ending to leave it open ended for that awful MMO.
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it's a unconfirmed ruse
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>>334781451
Firewatch is on PS4 and Overwatch is on PS4/Xbone
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>>334781421
That won't happen unless FromSoft decides to rework the entire game from the ground up.
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>>334781504

Oh and I'm talking about modern games

You can still hit 60 with old shit like dark souls 2 or underwhelming looking games
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>>334781339
>spending $400 + $360 to play 6 fucking games

With all that money you could've put together a nice pc. Like a really nice pc. You're not even trying anymore
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>>334781260
OH SHIT ABSOLUTELY OBLITERATED REKD
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I bet this could even run Dark Souls 3 at 60 FPS.

What a time to be alive.
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>>334781421
Console games are designed to have maximum framerates, so even if this system is capable of running Bloodborne at 60fps, FROM would have to issue a patch or extra version in order to take advantage of it. And that's assuming they didn't tie all the physics and systems to the framerate as Japs are prone to do.
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>>334781451
>indies, incomplete multiplayer games, mobas and RTSs
lmao
trash
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>>334781260
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>>334781504
Is Zen the same architecture? If there's a switch it architecture, there is no point in the whole optimization thing of consoles.
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>PCucks going out of their way to call the GPU a 7970
>It's actually 90% of a 390
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>>334781593
>literally 98% of of what pc gets with inferior graphics

lmao
trash
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>>334781562
I don't even have a PS4 you dunce, I'm just saying that the Bloodborne Machine meme is dead.
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>>334774350
ps4 has unified memory, the vram is the cpu ram and vice versa
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>>334774240
Ohboy, I cant wait for another year of Sonygaf posts shilling matrix pics to mark their threads so they know where to post just like all the goldfaces and shit when they shilled souls garbage.
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>>334781514
Read the GPU specs. They've more than doubled it.
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>>334781658
But the literally no games still machine meme is still very real
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>>334781562
>anything less than $1000
>"""""""really nice PC"""""""

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>334781637

No but amd cpus are shit

Zen is the only promising thing they have

Jaguars were a joke
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>>334781729
Hey, skip out the SSD, pirate windows and take a gamble on the PSU and you're well on your way to hit that budget.
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>>334781729
Literally anything you could build with 760 dollars would destroy a ps4 in performance.
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>>334781792
I don't see how that changes anything I said.
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>>334781729
Better than PS4k.

You're always going to be behind in hardware. Even if you tried matching a basic storebought PC's hardware, the proprietary hardware costs from the name brands Sony is paying to have in their console will make it cost more because licensing.
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>>334781769

Jaguars are perfectly fine for what they were designed to do. It just so happens high performance is not one of those things.
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>>334781825
the point is that it may not be the best pc, but it's better than a shitstation.
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>>334781637

CPU microarchitecture doesn't really matter when you put in what is basically a generic x86-64 processor. If you re-engineer the consoles to switch only the CPUs from AMD to Intel, there wouldn't be any problems in general, besides very minute details.

Here's the other thing. If Sony isn't waiting and they are going to release Neo so soon without waiting for Zen, Microsoft is going to jump them so badly by waiting for it for their Xbone 1.5 unless they go full retard as well.

Honestly, I dunno who is making the decision to release the new console so soon, but they should seriously just consider waiting.
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>>334781842
Why the fuck do you think I'm a sonygger?

>butthurt poorfag thinks that me ripping on him for having a toaster means I'm a sony cock sucker
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>>334781894
Maybe they know something about Nintendo's NX?
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>>334781858
Okay?

You can get a decent PC with $800, but not a really good one.
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All this ps4 update is going to do is stabilize the 20fps framerate on their games. That and help with VR games.
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>>334781791
SSDs are pretty cheap these days.

You can get 512G for $100.
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NX dead on arrival.
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>>334781712
Still never going to get that 1080p 60 fps they promised.
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I think ZEN was supposed to be this year but then it's been pushed back. I'm pretty sure they were already showing the flag months ago when they weren't showing off any prototype unit or anything to tech industry people.

Intel needs to be broken up as a monopoly already since AMD just isn't competing anymore. Shit, I think Intel and Nvidia actually give AMD money just to prevent them from dying and having an anti-trust hit them
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>>334778439
I ENJOYED JUPITER ASCENDING!
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>>334774240
lmao the point of a console is to have a standardized set of hardware for devs to target, and for people to not have to upgrade their shit

ps4.5 is literally pants on head retarded

also
>console gaming
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>>334781894

> without waiting for Zen

AMD's roadmaps put the Zen based APUs at mid 2017. Once you factor in manufacture time by the time zen is available it will be time for another round of consoles.
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>>334775760
Greek mythology. Could be tied to the new God of War.
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>>334775359
In Canada Rogers offers NHL games in 4K
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People forget that most console games arent made like pc with sliders to change the performance. Console games have better performane than the equivalent hardware on pc (ffs, X1 have the same specs as a 2009 computer) cause the games are carefully optimized for that specific configs. You always lose performance when you have to account for different machines.

Old games wont have magical improvments, maybe the frame rate will get solid 30 if it had slowdowns, and thats it.

There are ways to make a game look better without changing the software, but there are problems:

>Filters, added SSOC and AA. Rather "performance cheap" but usually cause compatibility issues. You never know how that specific filter will react with some game.

>Set up a resolution multiplier. Basically downsampling, but given how performance heavy it is, expect stuff like 1440->1080 rather than 4k-1080. If it even reaches 1440.
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>>334781842
unless they have some sort of 'deal' that makes this 'business' worth it. i 'could' be 'wrong' though. but i doubt it.
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>>334775718

Hopefully they learned their lesson and maybe Sony gave them a heads-up that they should develop the game to potentially be played on better hardware.
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>>334782123

It would only be a delay of a year, but I guess it explains why they have to release ASAP since not getting on the crappy VR train soon would hurt Sony.

But in all serious, there would be no way a traditional console cycle would end in 2017-2018. The current console cycle only started in 2013. At least it would go to 2020.
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>>334776136

I wouldn't be surprised if making it NEO-compatable was a big reason for it taking so long.
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>>334781260
kek
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>>334774538
>this scene is 13 ears old
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how are they getting away with this shit? do current PS4 owners at least get a discount or some kind of trade in offer? early adopters just got shafted hard as fuck.

why aren't more PS4 owners mad about this shit? is there some part of the deal I'm missing where it isn't as jew-tier as it sounds?
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>>334782051
At this point, a stable 30 is all we can really hope for.
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>>334776067
FFXV doesn't look like ass, just runs like it.
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>>334782495
>At least it would go to 2020.
Nope. Dead and in the process of being buried.
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>>334778683
I liked it just for how fuckin weird it all was.
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>>334780097

Considering 4K blu-ray players currently cost about $400 the NEO becomes very attractive to people with new 4K TVs or are thinking of getting one. Kinda like how a lot of people bought PS2s because they could play those new-fangled DVDs.
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>>334782495
Well, given current trends, PS5 is confirmed for 2019.
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>>334778643
Wes Anderson.
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Are they gonna change the look too? That'd be an added bonus.
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>>334780464

Apparently it still has the same slow-ass HDD but hopefully they design it to it can take better advantage of SSDs and hybrids.
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>>334782775

>traditional

But yes, if it isn't a traditional cycle anymore, then it pretty much can be at any point when the console companies feel like it.

>>334782884

Feels way too soon especially considering Neo. They will lose a ton of goodwill.
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>>334778891
I liked it as well, the gay stuff weirdd me out a little, but thats only because shows don't really show much gay stuff besides wisecracking side characters, Sense8 was like "Here this person is trans, oh by the way, HERE IS A BIG GAY ORGY".

But yeah, besides the initial shock value of that, I enjoyed it.

>>334778439
The story in this was pretty shit, but I enjoyed the action sequences a lot.
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>>334782572
Calm down you fuck, we don't even know if this is real yet. Did you fall for the NX leaks too?
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>Sony: You have no choice but to invest extra resources on your own dime and support this
>Also fuck you if you want to make exclusive content

I don't see how this could possibly backfire
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>>334783005
Smartphones have primed people to think that tech should be replace every other year. Sony is probably testing out if the same logic applies to game consoles.
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>>334783005

I dunno, $400 every two years for a new console doesn't seem outrageous so long as the old ones are still supported for at least six years.
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>>334783032
if it was fake why wouldn't sony respond to it? surely its in their best interest business wise to make sure people aren't holding off on PS4 purchases to get a console that doesn't exist.
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>>334783056
It just means they won't throw resources in and anyone not using the latest PS4 on the market will be treated to a pile of laggy ugly shit
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>>334783173
>if it was fake why wouldn't sony respond to it?
Nintendo hasn't responded to the dozens of NX leaks. Does that mean Nintendo will release a console with dozens of form factors and hardware configurations?
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>>334782038
Not in canadia
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>>334783184

I can see devs getting lazier as if they already weren't
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>>334778683
If this was made in the 90s/early 00s it would've been a MASSIVE HIT.
>>334778439
This wasnt as bad as I thought it would but Tatum was trash and it needed to be a series
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>>334781260
Tore him a new asshole.
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>>334783173
Sony don't respond to rumors, thats been their stance for years.
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Get ready for the next phase of gen wars, /v/.
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>>334783436
FUCK
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>>334781451
>overwatch
>fire watch
>pc exlcusives
as someone who plays on pc mostly
THOSE AREN'T EXCLUSIVES YOU FUCKING IDIOT
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>>334783396
muh

fuckin

dick
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>>334774538

This is easily the worst part of the whole franchise. Remove the Burly Brawl and the Battle of Zion and the latter movies go from awful to alright.

First movie is still God tier. I wish they'd release an HD version with the shitty green filter removed.
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>>334783436
NO
MY 4 YEAR STREAK OF GOING UNSPOOKED
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>>334779114
I'm praying to god the 3DS gets replaced with the next console/hand held thing so I can finally have Monster Hunter on Console again ^_^
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>>334774240
>buy a ps3.5 ("ps4")
>no games
>'mah dark souls: casual edition' ("bloodborne")
>constant bickering with every non sonygger about "no games"
>2 years later, sorny drop real ps4 ("ps4.5")
>promise no reason to buy new "ps4.5" beyond 1080p for kiddie graphics whores
>creates effective class divide between sonygger haves and have-nots

feels hilarious, man
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>slightly overclocked PS4
Not worth the money or upgrade. Just stop playing on consoles altogether if they think this is acceptable. Rethink their cooling method, and pack a shitload more power in it. They should have a surplus of money from selling a 400 dollar box to people.
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>>334783696
>Just stop playing on consoles altogether if they think this is acceptable.
you shoulda done that circa Gamecube, brah
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>>334781407
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>>334781260
DELETE THIS
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>>334783696
They doubled the CUs on the GPU. This is basically a crossfire build with a slight overclock.
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>>334774240
So I don't care about 4k and I'm ok with the current framerate, which seems to be almost locked 30 on BB.

Will I get a discount on old PS4s or something?
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>>334781339
>>Infamous
Berat3d by its own community as a huge letdown.
>>Disgaea 5
Decent RPG. Hardly a system seller.
>>Ratchet and Clank
Meh
>>Driveclub
You can't be serious
>>Until Dawn
"Game"
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>>334783173
Nintendo and Microsoft don't respond to rumors either.
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>>334783837
>Will I get a discount on old PS4s or something?
Yeah. A lot of people will sell theirs when the 4.5 is out.
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>>334783816
The CPU is the biggest thing they need though.
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I was gonna buy a ps4 but i guess now i shouldn't since they're making the current one obsolete

Fuck you sony the one good thing about consoles is that they last a long time now you're taking that away are you retarded
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>>334783816

You forgot the RAM upgrade too.

But yeah, it's basically nothing, at the end of the day.
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>>334783436
>.gif
>2.85 MB
not this time
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>>334783858
>Berat3d by its own community as a huge letdown.

how so? and where?
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>>334783558
>musclegirls
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>>334783390
Would they have even allowed it to be on tv back then?
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>inb4 Sony's arrogance once again almost has them commit suicide
It took the PS3 4 years to obtain relevancy back, you'd think Sony would be smarter. Eh I don't think Sony even cares about the playstation brand anymore, it was Kutaragi's baby.
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>>334784001
eat shit fag
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>>334783929
I don't trust used stuff anon.
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>>334783939

It was the bottleneck on the Og and they're just bumping the clock. Pretty stupid if you're gonna do this. Guess zen isn't done

It's clear they plan on keeping 30 in most new games

All ms needs to do is go Intel cpu and amd gpu
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>>334783858
>Berat3d by its own community as a huge letdown.
No infamous fan calls it a bad game, but they do say it's the worst one in the series.

>>334783858
>You can't be serious

Have you actually played Driveclub? I was really skeptical at first given the mixed response, but it's actually a pretty good game.
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>>334781791
>take a gamble on the PSU
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>>334784052
Its okay when Sony does it. If NIntendo tried to force developers to support n3DS, they would get completely blacklisted.
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>>334784001
musclegirls are fine
it's the short hair that's shit
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>>334774240
HOLY SH!T, the upgrade is actually impressive. so... much... computing power... MIND BLOWN! I guess Sony does always win... huh, baby?
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>>334774240
Marketing campaign
they are going to fuck the ps4 buyers
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>>334783837
GameSpot will definitely have a trade in deal but it will probably be shit
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>>334784054
>musclegirls
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cpu is sitll gonna be bottlenecked. whats the pont?
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>You actually bought the PS4!!!
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