>The year is 2016 A.D
>You're playing Dark Souls 3
>You're STILL not using a bow
Explain yourself, /v/. There is literally no excuse not to have some kind of bow equipped as a secondary weapon a all times. No excuse at all.
I actually feel the bow is too cheap in this game. I nearly solo'd all of the bosses with the pharam bow my first playthrough.
Are there anymore godlike bows?
>>334763123
Equip weight for one.
It's true though, every melee build should have a bow on backup. Even if only to pull enemies away from a group ambush.
because sorcerer
>>334763123
But I am, and I'm loving it, also is there a way to make the Abyss Watcher sword/dagger combo a viable build without getting the shit ganked out of me?
>>334763123
But you can't even do roll attacks with that one, ew.
I love my composite bow waifu. Bowfu? Bofu? Bowifu?
bows and sorcereies seem to go hand in hand since dex reduces cast time.
You get the black bow from one of the log Giants at the swamp right?
>>334763898
I'm using a Dragonslayer Bow +4 and it's pretty good even when using feather arrows. I mainly use it for aggro but occasionally I kill enemies with it as well.Took the Dragons out with it in Lothric Castle, which was handy.
Also this game looks really nice if you take just the right screenshot. At the Archives now and I'm enjoying this area quite a lot.
>>334763123
How is the Darkmoon Longbow?
>>334764408
>weapon art doesn't have a special effect when "enchanting" the arrow
>just looks like a regular longbow pierce shot
Fucking trashed
>>334764025
Sorcery is garbage in this game. I regret going sorcerer.
I don't really understand the point of these spooky arm things in the Archives. They never manage to kill or curse you, they seem to be there as a minor annoyance more than anything.
>>334764718
go dunk your head in wax
>>334764718
They did manage to curse me when I just didn't pay attention to the meter
You can get your head waxed though and be fine anyway
>>334764323
Got my desktop BG from Archives.
Currently getting my head kicked in by Nameless King.
>>334764875
>>334764876
Yeah I did wonder what that wax pit did. I dunked my head in but didn't really know what it was supposed to do. By that point you're basically done with that part of the area as well, so it doesn't make much sense it being in the place it is. I imagine most people just roll through the spoopy hands to grab items and then roll back out. That's what I did.
>can't even raise int and faith because leveling is so goddam expensive
Seriously, I've be 38 for fucking ages now.
>>334765325
There are several pits, actually, since it's temporary.
I personally dunked my head in the first one, right before the room with the first books, and then they just popped open and nothing happened, so I thought it was just a spooky effect. Turns out they can curse
>>334763123
I prefer crossbows.
Also, is there a legit way to fight the Smoulder Lake Lightning Worm thing? I just shot it a bunch until it died.
>>334765434
>Get to new area, play for a bit
>Realise i have got enough souls to get a level
>Homeward bone or backtrack away
>Level up
>Start area again
I spent like 4 hours in the Cathedral before fighting the deacons because i kept killing everything and getting enough souls.Also i was too stupid to find the shortcuts to the bonfire in the church
>>334765434
>SL38
>Thinks leveling is expensive now
Nigga I'm SL78 and it costs me 32,000 souls to level ONCE. it's getting ridiculous but I'm at a point in the game now where you can farm 50,000 souls in 20 minutes, so it really isn't a big deal. I just lost 120,000 souls to a fucking Gargoyle who knocked me off a roof.
>>334765562
yeah stand in the middle or behind it and melee it.
I think the intended way is to have the balista shoot it
I can't figure the optimal starting class for a spear and bow build
because i bow to no one
>>334765562
There isn't really a "legit" way, since every way is gimmicky
You can just cover from the ballista behind a tree, near the Demon Ruins bonfire, and it will just do two attacks which all place him in the same position every time for you to attack
>>334765562
>>Also, is there a legit way to fight the Smoulder Lake Lightning Worm thing? I just shot it a bunch until it died.
I stood behind a rock near the entrance to old demon king. The gigantic avelyn machine will shoot it to death trying to hit you
>Use long bow for over half the game
>Switch to composite bow
>That draw time
Are the other bows any good? I used Dragonrider Bow in DaS2 but it was shit because every draw used up a third of your stamina.
>>334765562
Not really, no. Your options are:
A) Shoot it with arrows/bolts
B) Stand behind it and let the ballista kill it
C) Turn off the Ballista and then fight it never
It gives an undead boneshard so it's worth doing either way.
>>334765434
>see all these guys wielding new awesome weapons and equipment
>meanwhile I'm stuck with a broadsword and weak shield because I don't have the stats for anything else
>>334764126
Yeah, realise the power of the parry, it's parrying dagger/buckler tier from what I can tell. For real though you're gonna get your ass ruined hard by parries online by anyone with an open hand, dagger or buckler.
I actually enjoy that there's a limited inventory this time so you cant run around with 999 arrows at one time.
>>334766091
it can be blocked by a high stability shield and rolled through, it's just big, not hard
only these faggots would resort to cheese
>>334765792
Depends on the stats you want you fucking nerd.
>>334765907
I bow to no goose
>>334765562
I just ran up to it and hacked it to death like everything else. When it started doing it's bullshit where if flails through the ground and is impossible to hit reliably I just stepped out of range to reset the AI and started again.
Only took a couple of passes. 2 or 3 maybe. It doesn't hit too hard.
>>334765562
I hit it with my sword a few times and it died, but then again I was overleveled for the area.
>>334763123
I will make a bow character after I finish my Knight/Sorcerer and Ultra Greatsword/Pyro warrior runs.
>>334766095
>Broadsword
You're already using one of the best weapons in the game.
>>334763123
What are the requirements for bows? I tried to use one in the dungeon because of those jailers fucking my shit up, and I found I couldn't use most of the arrows I had in my inventory.
How viable is bow only? Been playing through the whole game using glorious nippon steel and I never use bows because I'm not a fag, but bow only might be cool.
>>334766091
You missed
D) Turn off the ballista and man mode that fuckerOr you can stand behind it, wait for it to appear, 2 hits, roll away repeat
Are bows viable in DaS3? In 1 and 2 I tried to make a bow only character but there tons of issues with invisible walls and collision detection making it not worth it. Arrows got stuck midair all the time.
>>334766638
It's alright, but I don't have the stats to make it great. I have to magic buff it and that get's tedious.
So is there just no int/faith weapons in the game?
>>334763123
Because its impossible to kill anyone in PVP with it.
>>334764529
It only becomes good very late when you can hit enemies/phantoms for 1k+ damage with crystal soul spear and Kamehameha. But yeah, it's shit every other moment.
>>334766282
It has a couple of bullshit AoE attacks which are virtually unavoidable if you're near it. You can fight it melee, no problem. But you gotta turn the ballista off first, otherwise you're facing a lot of frustration and bullshit deaths. It's much easier just to cheese it.
>>334766715
I finished 80 percent of the bosses with the pharam bow.
>>334766095
Just buff it up. Can also put a heavy gem on it if you have some STR. Weapon does more than any of my other shit.
>>334763123
But anon, I have a long bow +10, and I used it for the last hit on Soul of Cinder, and just Nameless King just with it.
>>334766650
Bows are excellent secondary weapons. Even a regular bow with a few upgrades is fantastic for drawing aggro and baiting enemies towards you. As a melee build I couldn't recommend one enough.
>>334765735
yeah after irrylith your souls kinda skyrocket. grand archives is insane, 2.7k for the lit candle guys is ridiculous.
>>334766650
You have 99 shots of each arrow at a time so good luck
>>334765562
idk what these guys saying but
the worm stays in the same spot and attacks the same location. It has no targeting.
When it curls up hit it.
When it stands up hit it.
Just move away when it's moving.
>>334763898
If you want t real cheese, try using a Heavy Crossbow in DaS1. I cheesed most bosses solo with with mine. Even O&S. Just kite and keep popping off bolts.
How do I get to the smoldering lake ballista?
The fextralife wiki disappeared
>>334767380
When you get to the bullshit room with the 3 fat guys who lift the fire balls, take the first left.
Then take a right and drop down into the rat area.
There is an illusion wall where the big rat is. It'll reveal a chest. Behind that chest is another illusion wall.
Just explore that way
>>334767380
Explore in the demon ruinss. When you find a ladder, you're going the right way
>>334763123
what bow is that? also, you can cheese just about the whole game with a bow. bows are 2 ez
>>334766737
>Infuse with Heavy Gem
>Pump levels into STR
>????????
>Profit?
Having said that, I'd take a Darksword over the Broadsword any day of the week. Infuse it with a heavy gem and it automatically gets A scaling in STR. Does some REAL damage when you get it above +6, even when you're one handing it.
>>334767380
go down the bridge ladder outside of wolnir in carthus catacombs
>>334767762
>>Pump levels into STR
I can't do that. All my levels are going to INT and Faith.
>>334766141
I'm playing on a torrent so no big deal there.
>>334764323
archives was such a fun zone but i didn't die at all
i wish i had so i could enjoy it longer
>>334767723
Shit, I was afraid the way was down there. I hate this place.
>>334767893
Well then you're a fool and I can no longer help you.
>>334767896
Oh. Well it's fucking amazing for PvE so I don't see what your problem is. AI is too dumb to punish the 2h L1 and the poise is ridiculous. Try upgrading?
>>334767762
>spent 50% of the game with a curved greatsword
>suffering
>some fag tells me to try a dark sword with a heavy gem
>game becomes 200% easier, never die to a boss after that
even the final boss only took two tries because maxed out dark sword with 50 STR is insane, even without resins
>>334767747
Dragonslayer Bow.
You can find it on your way up the ladder in Smouldering Lake where you turn off the Ballista. It's on a ledge.
>>334768149
Truth.
I had to farm forever for the dank sword, didn't know how good it was I just wanted full darkwraith set. My refined longsword +5 and heavy spiked mace +5 served me well til then.
>Make bow build
>NPC thief who sells me arrows disappeared forever
>Bows are unusable for the rest of the game
Great game design From Software.
>>334768542
???????
Try Shrine handmaiden?
>>334768542
Uh, the old woman sells arrows, doofus.
>>334768542
you can buy arrows from the shrine handmaiden though you ding dong
>>334768542
His ashes can be found and you can buy his arrows
>>334768542
>>334768676
>>334768690
>>334768723
And you can find his body and give her the ashes.
>>334768814
Dark arrows? She's selling them but I don't remember finding some dead guys ashes.
>>334768947
Well go find his ashes then.
Where the fuck did the blind cleric bitch go?
She left after I killed the deacon
>>334769147
did you buy any hex spells from her?
>>334766715
Not really, you're seriously limited on arrow capacity.
>>334769115
Where? I checked his old cell but is not there.
>>334769189
Yea.
Like one.
Man, let me guess. She fucking died?
>>334769115
Where? I can hardly search every nook and cranny in the entire world just to find some guys ashes to make a certain type of arrow. She already makes Great Arrows, what other arrows could I possibly need?
>>334769352
She doesn't like those spells much
>parry windows seem shorter than before
>keep getting partial parries instead of legit parries
>receive full damage as if I hadn't blocked
>stamina goes down as if I'd blocked
WHY. THE FUCK. IS THIS ALLOWED?
>>334763123
i use pyromancy and 2shot literally everything with chaos flame orb
>>334769394
ur shit lmaoStealth parry nerf?Good.
>>334769245
>>334769368
What was the last thing he said?
If you sent him to steal his body is somewhere in a recent zone.
If irythil, he's in the spider water inside place.
>>334769394
Because parrying is for suckers.
Roll > Block > Parry
>>334769580
A partial parry is worse than a block. A partial parry is actually worse than a completely whiffed parry, or standing still and getting hit without moving an inch. I can live with taking full damage but eating at my stamina too is fucking bullshit. Do they just not want people to parry?
>>334765562
get on the fog gate side of him, let him do his spaz then when he comes up to shoot lightning run in and attack then back off
i went the long way around the smouldering lake lol so i never found him from the front
>>334769394
>Perfect Parry
>Deflect enemy attack, and enemy gets staggered
>Eligible for riposte
>Partial Parry
>Partially deflect attack taking 50-75% of the damage you normally would
>Failed Parry
>Eat a face full of steel
Going back to this system was retarded, it should have been a perfect parry, or no parry at all. I keep getting partial and perfects at the same time, which means i'm taking damage as if I had only partial parried the attack, but I also get the perfect parry, because the enemy gets staggered and I can riposte them. This shit is fucking retarded.
Punish me for missing the parry, not for fucking perfectly executing a parry.
>>334769636
The little guy in the hood? Is that who we're taking about? He's still at firelink for me. Didn't send him out to stealmsruff because I fight for justice and honour throughoit Lothric.
>>334766091
D) just attack it from behind when it does the lightning attack, ihad already disabled the ballista before i found out the worm existed
>>334769831
He sells good shit but dies unless you do a bunch of shit, poor bastard
>>334769719
Dunno. I just think any nerf is good, because they're just a bit strong in PvP at the moment. Meta seems to be moving into a defensive parry hornet ring direction and I hate it.
Honestly though it probably makes sense that it's worse than just getting hit from a game design standpoint, you've got risk vs reward in every other system. If you try to roll and get hit you take extra instability damage, for example. And blocking has real consequences now too. You can argue that parrying can just get you hit but honestly that's not really enough considering both other defensive options are getting hit + something else.
>>334769352
shes outside the firelink shrine near the first boss with her daddy who is angry at u
>>334770205
I think I bought one from her but all she does is cry about tiny creatures tweaking her nipples in the night. Did I fuck up yet?
where do i farm/get arrows ?
>>334769803
It often feels like you're taking full damage on the partial parry. You get the blocking sound, but a huge chunk of your health disappears and your stamina bar ceases to exist. A partial parry can be a death sentence, if you didn't have full stamina, paid stamina to parry, then lost stamina again due to only getting a partial, you might be at 0 stamina and unable to roll away from any follow-up hit.
I've mostly noticed this in PVE so it has nothing to do with netcode. I fought silver knights for about one hour trying to get the parry timing right and it's so fucking difficult, as well as so punishing when you whiff, I have to wonder why anyone would ever fucking want to parry in PVE.
>>334770446
Buy from the shrine maiden.
>>334770326
she doesnt die unless you kill her
if you buy a dark miracle for her, her dad will take her outside firelink shrine and she wont help you until you kill her dad and bring her back inside
if you dont buy dark miracles for her you can turn her into a pure firekeeper later
>>334770163
Parrying was already the highest risk, highest reward proposition in an exchange. Did everyone forget that parrying was not always monscimmy tier? Did everyone lose their shit when monscimmy happen and parrying suddenly become the scrub tactic because for a while some easy-mode weapon made it completely braindead?
>>334770629
Yeah she hasn't gone outside yet and I've completed everything but the optional areas.
So I'm probably good? I did give her a dark miracle tome though, and she freaked a little. If I don't buy that shit from her she won't fuck off outside?
>>334770702
>Haven't found an estus shard in like 8 hours
>Just been through Lothric Castle and Archives
>Didn't find one in either area despite looting fucking everything
Holy Christ where the hell are they? I only have 9 and my estus flask is already at +8. Any I might have missed? I know there's one in Smouldering Lake which I missed but fuck that area, I hate it.
>>334770512
I fucking hate this system, DkS1 had it, but it didn't feel anywhere as punishing. DkS2 did away with partials entirely(one of the few things it improved upon)
I have to agree, like I said, give me the parry or don't, but giving me a partial pretty much means im dead. Unless you have high stamina, you're always gonna get fully drained.
Personally I love parrying in PvE. Parrying is extremely satisfying because I can get a huge chunk of damage in and hit them before they get up, but if I fuck it up, it's almost always lights out.
>>334770785
right you can give her the tomes, she only goes outside if you buy them from her
>>334770925
Didn't mean to quote >>334770702 there. Was quick replying and forgot to erase your your post number.
>>334763123
>bow
>bluefag
>probably dex too
You're just a faggot, anon.
>>334763123
Bows are finally good now? I'd never thought I'd see the day
>>334770702
>highest risk
dude lmao
Nah you don't even take instability and you could partial parry fucking anything in DS1 for reduced damage and increased poise, which is better than taking instability on top of normal damage and likely getting poise broken.
2 was a shit game in general and we've got monoscimmy back in 3 in the form of various bucklers and the dagger on the memesword.
Regular rolling has always been the riskiest but second easiest thing to do. Parrying is harder, for sure, but it comes with less risk than rolling. In 3 it might even be less risky than blocking, even with the stamina drain.
>>334771148
>Probably dex too
Nah, brah. STR all the way. Have 40 in STR (35 really, I'm also using a Knight's ring which gives 5 levels) and only 16 DEX. Also, I switch from covenant to covenant as the mood takes me. Doesn't seem to be any reason not to, really. You can change them on the fly.
>>334771183
Do you have no idea how easy it was to punish parries in DaS1? Did you not dead angle or backstab parry fishers? The timing for a parry was hard to get, and it left you open for a long time and gave your opponents a lot of ways to push your shit in: if you landed the parry, however, you dealt huge damage. Fucking definition of high risk, high reward. Are you seriously, unironically implying rolling is riskier than that? There's nothing less risky than rolling, it's literally the safest move in combat in all Souls games. For a while, DaS even had the DWGR that made mashing roll even more safe and braindead than monscimmy parry spam ever was.
>>334771149
You are joking, right? Bows have been good since the first game. They've always been great for aggro, breaking up mobs, or just taking out tough enemies from a distance. You're never gonna use one as your primary weapon, but as a secondary weapon they're fantastic.
>>334771756
I thought the OP was talking from a PvP perspective.
I only figured out people were talking about PvE after I posted.
>>334771756
>tfw DkS2 was my first dark souls
>I used a bow exclusively
True suffering, that only made the game much harder for myself. Until I was able to buy poison arrows.
>>334771616
Out fucking skilled
>>334771575
>there's nothing less risky than rolling, it's literally the safest move in combat in all Souls games
opinion discarded
>parry fishers
There's your fucking problem genius. Do what the parry kings of the world do, bait an attack and parry it. Spamming parry at every opportunity is going to get you killed, yeah. So is spamming roll at every opportunity. In fact, chain backstabs relied on you rolling immediately on wake up. The only thing that didn't get you murdered immediately was shielding. Literally all you had to do to stop dead angles was unlock. Don't forget you can also parry or roll straight out of block without losing frames. Fucking dead angling was the most punishable bullshit, even worse than parry fishing.
If you misread your opponent with anything you're going to take a backstab in DS1 PvP. Latency+immediate lock into BS animation meant that it was stupid easy to just run past the opponent and fuck him up almost no matter what he did. The poise system made that even easier. The best defence was a good offence, which is to say counter backstab fishing tactics. No one is going to deny that DS1 PvP had some dumb bullshit. DWGR was some shit, like you said. It was ridiculous, and they nerfed it. Good fucking riddance.
>>334763123
Guys should i make a dex build or a sorcerer?
>>334772718
Baiting opponents only worked when opponents got baited. Those "parry kings of the world" you talk about are just YouTubers who got good at reading bad players. In actual high-level play, read: not fighting randoms in Kiln, you saw a lot less parries, and you sure as fuck saw parries getting punished a lot more. It was NOT a safe move, never fucking was, unless you read your opponent like a book: in which case you could kill them in literally any other way, you'd just go for parries because it's the flashier move to style on people.
Even monscimmy users were easy pickings if they didn't bother to read their opponents before mashing L2. Against any half-decent player, monscimmy twirly bullshit was still not a safe move, though definitely safer than it had any right to be. And yes, that deserved a nerf. Parrying in general did not. Parrying is only safe against scrubs.
>>334772818
Dex then respec as a sorc after 50 hours and you have some magic that doesn't suck
I think im lost guys. I just got done with the Cathedral of the Deep, its all cleared out and explored. But before I even got there I accidentally wondered into the Abyss Legion fight and explored the catacombs, defeated Skeleton Man, and ended up in pic related.
So far it seems I can continue on, or go down into the Ash lake thats on fire with the balista and the GIANT WORM.
Am I going the right way? Have I missed anything? The only lord iv killed is the legion.
>>334773637
>I think I'm lost, I have two unexplored paths open to me
Gee whiz anon I don't fucking know, maybe pick one and explore it?
>>334763123
Which is better overall and why?
Long bow or pharas?
>>334773026
>It was NOT a safe move
I never said it was completely safe. If you get read when you go for a parry you're going to eat a backstab. If you get read when you go for a roll you're going to eat a backstab. Reading your opponent on some level has always been vital and always will be vital, no matter if it's for a parry or a backstab or prevention of either. You can create a situation in which they have no choice but to attack, by turtling a bit behind a shield, unlock and parry the inevitable dead angle attempt. Every single part of high level PvP is mind games. Denying that parrying was part of your toolset and saying it was just for style is disingenuous. Many times it was the only option when you're out-poised and out-gunned. Reading a dash attack, or an unlock backstab punish, or an empty air swing is much easier than reading 2 or 3 steps ahead to see if your opponent is going to continue his combo or backstep or roll or parry or block or... etc etc.
>Even monscimmy users were easy pickings if they didn't bother to read their opponents before mashing L2. Against any half-decent player, monscimmy twirly bullshit was still not a safe move, though definitely safer than it had any right to be. And yes, that deserved a nerf. Parrying in general did not. Parrying is only safe against scrubs.
Parrying in general in DS3 is almost monoscimmy level at the moment. A lot of the weapons you can parry with have almost immediate start-up on their frames, so you can mash it out on reaction to medium speed weapons in low ping environments. That's all I'm getting at.
>Put 40 into INT, having piss-all for HP as a result
>Great Soul Arrow does barely more than if I was at minimum necessary to attune
What's the point? It's like From wants everyone to roll Dex Melee.
>>334766091
I killed it by whacking itbwhen itbpopped up and running away when it sperged out or shot lightning. You can bleed it too.
>>334773736
Sorry, im not being clear. What im saying is. I think I missed a path. Is there something im missing? I was thinking there was going to be a path from the Cathedral somewhere else and I looked all over and there was nothing, so I backtracked. There seems to be a part of the swamp I missed, its full of Curse Frogs.
>>334767762
Can you do this with the Dark Sword and a Dex build with a Sharp gem? Kinda getting bored of my Estoc, Pharron Greatsword is fun to use but difficult to get through the game with and the wolf greatsword from the covenant is kinda hard to use properly without using Arts.
>>334774024
A longbow (Any). Bows aren't primary weapons, and you mainly use them to aggro enemies away from groups or break up mobs, which means they act more like tools.
>>334774157
Why would dex melee be any different? Put points into vigor you fucking retard.
>>334774157
you need to wear sorcery boosting rings, dusk crown, and to upgrade your staff
great soul arrow is for harassing, great heavy soul arrow is the real damage dealer
40 int isn't enough either, stats scale to 60
>>334774098
>Parrying in general in DS3 is almost monoscimmy level at the moment. A lot of the weapons you can parry with have almost immediate start-up on their frames, so you can mash it out on reaction to medium speed weapons in low ping environments. That's all I'm getting at.
Then that's a monscimmy situation and those weapons need a nerf. The act of parrying, however, does not, especially not a nerf on the level of "if you partial parry you take full damage and full stamina drain", because that's fucking stupid. It's only marginally nerfing the weapons you're talking about because they still have excellent frames, while making medium shields abso-fucking-lutely unusable to parry with unless you have literally perfect reads on your opponents. It's also making parrying shit in PVE and holy fuck I never thought I'd say "I won't bother parrying those NPC knights" because the associated risk, combined with the difficulty of execution, just isn't worth it.
>>334766095
Broadsword is one of the best weapons in the fucking game. Uh, apparently.
>>334769245
>>334769368
You big dumb dummies, he tells you where he's going. He's up near where the PvP covenant chick is, dead on the roof.
>>334774421
You can just go refined as well.
>>334774421
As far as I know a sharp gem won't get you A scaling, so it's not as effective as using a heavy gem and running a STR build. I don't know for sure though, so it would be better to check at the blacksmith to make sure.
>>334774098
You don't need to read someone's parry to punish it. A mistimed parry punishes itself.
9000 hours in character creation, how do I fare?
Should I lose the tat? I wanted some war paladin holy scripture shit
I AM using a bow and it's pretty much this game's version of magic cheese
I didn't have to fight a single spider bitch in irithyll
>>334774557
I'd actually agree that the medium shield class needs a bit of a hand. They have a lot of start up and like 2-4 or so active frames. I don't agree completely that parrying in general doesn't need a drawback though, maybe if it didn't apply to medium shields it would be a better situation.
Considering you're using a medium shield I can see where you're coming from. They're practically unusable, you're better off getting a weapon arts shield and going for stunlocking/guard breaks/shield pierce/whatever more often.
>>334775018
Awful, but she's going to wear a helmet so who the fuck cares
>>334775018
Is it a man or a woman?I'm dead fucking serious.
>>334774237
Cut the shoddy draw bridge before the skull goblet boss and climb down the half on the far half
>>334775018
Probably best to wear a full-face helmet for now. Having helms off near bonfires crashes people running Nvidia's latest drivers unless they're on low lighting, and even then the shit resets itself sometimes even with auto detect off.
>>334775114
Frames need fixed but the partial parries do not need to punish you so hard, because right now a partial parry is worse than no block at all. Parries, as they were in previous games, were fine. Excluding the monscimmy which was obviously broken, I'd be hard pressed to say parrying ever needed a nerf. It's preposterous to say it wasn't a high-risk, high-reward move. There's a reason you'd only go for it when you were 90%+ sure it would work or at least partial, because a whiffed parry was a terrible thing to have happen to you. You were gambling your ability to precisely predict your opponent's next attack against a sizeable chunk of your own health bar.
Someone who's been mostly spoiled on the neat lore bits and hasn't bought yet but is very much planning on it:
It seems like the general consensus is that this is more like a sequel to DaS than to DaSII, in a few senses. Would you put it that way? How would you stack it in the series, BB included?
>>334764529
>>334764529
You got exactly what you deserve magicfag
>>334775993
Honestly, I liked DaS2 a little more. But having said that, I liked DaS1 more than DaS as well. Haven't played Bloodborne but they're all better than DeS. So my ranking would go like this I guess:
>DaS2 > DaS3 > DaS > DeS
>>334765562
I just ran up to it and slashed the graboid it until It died. It never moved once it came out of the ground.
>>334775993
It's a continuation of Dark Souls 1's story, only set very far in the future so it can occasionally reference Dark Souls 2 aswell. It is very explicit in its relation to Dark Souls 1.
Nobody can rank the series objectively, but let's just say it's up there with Dark Souls and Bloodborne.
>>334775507
>because right now a partial parry is worse than no block at all
Yes, and it probably should be, assuming we still have instability damage for sprinting/rolling and knowing that we have guard break ripostes that are easy to pull off. I already said that I'd be fine with the full damage/stamina penalty being waived on medium shields, but anything else is brain-dead easy to pull off and needs a nerf one way or another.
I think you're absolutely blowing the risk out of proportion and underplaying the overwhelming reward, especially as it stands in the current game.
>>334775993
Seems that way. You do go toAnor Londoat one point, but I was hoping I might seean area from Dark Souls 2. I remember in the trailer there was a background that looked a lot like the steps leading up to the ruins of Drangleic Castle. I would have loved that.
>>334776659Archdragon Peak
>>334776720
Aw shiet. Don't think I've got there yet. My rogue build got her face pushed in by Dragonslayer several times so I quit it for the night.
Just finished Dark Souls 3 including all the optional bosses, should I play Dark Souls 2 w/ DLC?
I've played and finished Dark Souls 1 And Bloodborne
>>334765562
You can stand in the exact same place and melee it, because it never changes its position.
>>334776232
From has tried to nerf magic every game since DeS and fucked it up, you can't blame players for using it
>>334763123
>get summoned in as a Darkmoon
>pull out bow and wait
>Stagger invader just as a face full of greatsword is coming down on him with nothing he can do about it
Got those 30 marks fast as hell in the Dragon peak.
>>334765792
Knight is the optimal starting class to everything except if you're going full caster without a weapon (which is shit)
What's a good melee weapon for a mage? I'm trying to keep a lower SL so it'll get active PVP. The dark axe in high wall is handy but I have to 2h it. I can fire imbue something like a shortsword or a longsword but that would take a few levels in str. What do some of you use with your mages?
>>334763123
It has weight. I put one on when I need it.
What are the best swords for a strength build?
Greatswords, and 1-h and shield.
Also are shields viable?
>>334777870
Shields are decent early game but later on every enemy attacks 6-10 times and each hit will use 90% of your stamina if you have 70 stability.
>>334777870
>Also are shields viable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-x2zyCqY78
>>334778409
Where can you find Havel's gear? Shield included.
Refined or Heavy?
>tfw just reached Irithyll Dungeon
>All of my NOPE triggered within first five minutes
that's it, it was a good run. Is this non-optional area because it's too spooky for me to progress
>>334779858
Nah, senpai. It's mandatory. Knuckle up, put your head down, and take it slow and steady.
>>334764718
>getting cursed
>minor annoyance
Is it better or worse than it was in DS1? 'Cause it made me poop a bit near those enemies even if they were really easy to kill.
>>334763123
There are some partsIrithyllwhere I feel like it would be impossible without a bow to pull mobs
>>334780018
Being cursed literally fucking kills you dead in DaS3. None of that halved health crap in DaS1. Somebody might have to confirm this though because itnonly ever happened to me once St the Deacons fight and it killed me instantly there.
>>334777424
Sage rapier. Just get that dex to 19. Mail breaker if 19 is too high and just crystal it
>>334780283
Full curse petrifies you so yeah. There's a few areas where there's like 8 to 12 basiliks in one area that shit curse nonstop.
How to parry abyss watchers?
>>334781960
I mean timing
>>334763898
The shortbow makes boss fights fun. The longbows and greatbows are pretty boring though.
>>334764718
is that dukes archives from das1? fucks sake
>>334765735
Try SL111 senpai
I have to farm angels for a solid hour to get any decent amount of levels
I just finished Dark Souls 1, should I play 2 next or jump straight to 3?
>>334779826
why is the firekeeper upset, she cant even see how big her tits are shes got no fucking eyes
>>334766236
Fuck you bro. Archer builds are so tedious now as if the soul deficit wasn't bad enough.
so is no one droping before the nameless king?
I want to beat him before I move on but i cannot solo this
>>334766638
You mean longsword.
>>334782221
play 2 so you can see how terrible it is.
>>334766650
It works but you have to arrow up at every bonfire if you're kill crazy. Some bosses will be much harder though because you can't DPS like a melee weapon. Other bosses will be so easy it's hilarious. Just make sure you carry a short range bow.
>>334766715
Don't listen to the other guy. Arrows aren't a problem between bonfires. But limited storage capacity will make you back to firelink to buy more. It really needs to be patched.
>>334767762
>>334768149
>>334768464
>not using refined
>>334771148
>shaming blue
Not all of us hate allowing people to earn covenant items.
>>334782221
Same predicament. I've still got NG+ to go through in the meantime but I'm wondering if it's worth jumping straight to 3 whilst the community is very active.
On the subject of DaS1, I have about half a million souls an no idea where to put them after hitting the cap on STR and END. Dumping them in VIT seems a bit cheesy but perhaps it's necessary in NG+?
>>334770205
>>334770629
>her dad
Oh, that's who he is. Fucker didn't even introduce himself to me.
>walk around, find bitch in a cell
>"I want to be a firekeeper!"
>yeah, whatever
>walk outside, spot a garl vinland cosplayer
>"Goddamn, well she's your problem now, idiot"
What an impolite ass
So is the Darkdrift any good?
Of course I have a fucking bow.
Wait, do you actually fight those big hordes of enemies all at once like some kind of retard?
Still using my Longbow+8 and I'm just about done the game. Thinking of switching to the Dragonrider Bow but I don't have enough twinkle. What do? How's the Oni one?
>>334768542
How can you tell he's dead?
I sent him out for the second time in Ithriyal or h/e you spell it can he hasnt come back and im in Anor Londo
>>334765562
Ya I just stood to its right where the ballista couldn't get me and shot away at it. The worm never even looked at me. It just kept spewing in front and wiggling around. What a poorly thought out enemy.
What are those fuckers that sap HP of they look at you again? Use bows for them
>my face when I have a on the right (Spear, Talisman, staff) and on the left (shield, bow, flame).
>>334784657
check watery areas of ilithyll for his ashes
>>334784648
never really found a use for greatbows. all I ever use mine for is pulling mobs one at a time or cheesing dragons, and anything works for that.
decent stats at least
>>334785106
Alright i will, was there a way to save him or does he die when you send him to the second
>>334763123
bows are so epic
your screenshot is so awesome
really hope the actual gameplay is not mediocre though
its, not just mediocre, overrated jap shit, right?
>>334779826
Maiden in Black.
DaS3 Fire Keeper has so little impact it's really lame. I know there's some quest with her about eyes or something, and you can give her the Firekeeper soul, but she still just doesn't feel important.
>>334782221
Don't listen to these faggots. DaS2 is a good game. It just messes up in a few areas. Hell there's a lot about it that's better than DaS1, just some that's worse.
/v/ just likes to meme about it. Play DaS2 for sure. I think it's the most fun in the series to do a shieldless run for. Status effects are also strong as fuck in it which is loads of fun.
>>334785138
I'm a DEX build so my bow at least has decent stopping power. I can usually at least weaken an enemy as it comes to me, that or set up for a first hit stagger.
The Oni bow functions the same as the Dragonslayer bow from DaS1 right? Like it's going to send NPCs flying? Might carry it on me and just equip it when need be.
>>334779826
highlighting the infusion shows you a preview of what stats you'll get out of it. just check for yourself. the answer will change with your stats.
>>334785307
I miss dual wield power stances and chicken leg hammer, the spin2win with it was way too funny.
>>334785392
yeah, it does. stationary to fire and everything
>>334785451
Dual wield stances were fun. I don't understand the point of limiting dual wield to specific weapons in 3.
My favorite experience with the whole series was doing my dual wield poison infused Spotted Whip only playthrough of DaS2. I killed everything with poison, everything, even that snake bitch that lives in poison. Let me tell you, Ancient Dragon took forever but that nigga got whipped.
>Invaded
>Dual wield power attack once and run around in circles as they die
>Try to heal
>More poison
>Try to moss
>More
>Poison
Fuck ya
>>334782338
>he didn't give his firekeeper eyes so she could see the truth of her flat
are the dancers swords any good yet? i was hitting players for less than thorn armor rolls with them maxed out before the patch with the weapon skill
>>334785761
They're ok. The recent patch buffed their base damage, I think.
>>334786114
is 1.4 out yet?
tried to update and it said the latest version was already installed but the title screen says im on 1.3 and 1.4 is out
>>334782338
they touched each other before
I want to make a build based around Gnaw and Poison Mist. How much will I suffer? Also what's the edgiest Necromancer-esc weapon I can get? No scythe because I'm already using that this run. Maybe something bug related.
I just need everything to rot.
>>334786184
1.4 was server side, so there's no need to update.
>>334766091
>then fight it never
I fought it with my boardsword, just dont get hit.
>>334786514
ah alright
>>334785761
I never tried them before the patch but after it they do ok damage with R1s and L1s at +4 on a quality build. But the weapon art does literally 20 damage a hit. I don't know what the fuck is with that
>STR build
>raise DEX to 14 early so I can lure with longbow
>I can kill most enemies in a few hits despite using wood bolts
>only raise STR, never DEX again
>most I do to bow is upgrade to +6 and using standard arrows
>still killing enemies without mercy
I am very excited for my DEX run
>>334763123
I ALWAYS do my first run with a bow. I try and play as practical as possible, usually put a few points in a magic stat for utility.
My second run usually ends up being an all-melee run.
>>334763123
how do you get the +7 on your flask?
>>334783269
>this
You idiots don't realize that a quality build and a refined gem on the dark sword gives B/B scaling and it goes all the way to 550 damage. Seriously.
Same with the default Longsword, and Sunlight Sword. All about the same damage with a quality build, which I've found to do the most damage investing right before the caps (40)
>>334779826
I can't stress this enough: If you're going quality build, refined, and check out the few specific weapons that scale incredible for both. Some get up to B/B as fast small weapons which gives you ultra greatsword comparable damage on something like a longsword.
What is the point of half these weapon arts? Most do less or the same damage as a normal attack and have huge build up times. Like the reaper headshot one is just completely useless.
>>334787030
burn bone shards at the bonfire, there's 10 total
I've been upgrading weapons too frivolously.
Where in the world do I farm large titanite shards?
>>334788384
play through irithyll normally and you'll get like 30-40, then later you find ashes that lets you buy every upgrade material besides infusion stones and slabs
>>334788838
you can still buy a slab too at some point. Makes 7 total slabs I know of
This triggers my autism. Died to a mimic because the chain clipped through the ground, making it look like it was facing backwards.
>>334789246
I always wait for them to breath too. I never trust the fucking chain. 90% of them are mimics anyway.
>>334789246
just attack every chest?
>>334789246
you can just hit it with your sword or some shit
it doesn't destroy what's inside
i don't even guess anymore, i just hit them all because the majority of them are mimics anyways
Why were people saying pyromancy was fucked in this game? It makes most bosses a literal joke, literally because I laugh after I 5 shot them.
Sulyvahn being the biggest joke, it's like his fight was designed entirely to be perfectly countered by GCFO.
Those alligator mutated things? I threw one at it's head and it literally took over half it's health just with the initial damage and also knocked it into a fucking reposte position, I had no idea before this that you could reposte those things.
And PvP is a fucking cakewalk, 1v1 duels are a bit challenging but I get a raging boner when I invade a gank squad because I have the opportunity to end 3 lives with a single spell.
>>334789246
... just hit every chest you see once, if it gets up and tries to eat you, it's a mimic.
>>334789246
There are other tells to see if a chest is a mimic, but honestly even the covered chains typically have enough chain showing to see what it is easily.
>>334789469
>>334789503
>>334789550
That's what I used to do, but it's more fun this way. Saves a second or two as well unless something stupids happens like with me.
>>334789584
It clipped right as it was about to turn around to face forwards. I should've payed attention because of it clipping through though.
So, Anor Londo seems to be really hot pvp spot. I have upgraded my weapons to +9 and I was thinking that if I up my weapons to +10 will I be locking myself out of pvp in that area since theres that retarded rule in co-op that you can't have your weapons more than +2 higher than others.
>>334789542
The early fireball sucks shit compared to previous games so its not the ez cheese mode as before.
