Is Ambra the best Battleborn hero? Or is she the best Battleborn hero?
Did the beta end, it says i'm in some queue and can't access anything
>>334712623
Same here. Can't do shit, though I was under the impression it didn't end til like 10pm, British time.
The beta took my whole week off.it was worth it
>>334712081
I played the beta yesterday.
I thought the memes would end after Anthony Burch was fired.
Boy was I wrong.
>>334715298
Don't be like that. There was only one Praise the Sun reference as far as I could tell.
>See Toby
>Aw fuck I gotta unlock him
>Work for him
>Get him and hyped as fuck
>Game is starting
>He's not chooseable
>What the fuck
>Apparently he's only available for the PS4 beta
>Lose all interest and drop the game
It was all right. I had some fun, honestly. I liked some of ISIC's lines in his stage as you got closer to him. But a friend reminded me that Overwatch is coming out too and I chose that over this.
>>334712081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDzZbz-YGYs
>>334715298
What memes? The only thing i saw was a reference to Dark Souls.
>>334715716
OW looks shallow as balls. And 40$ MP for a barebones TF2 clone with inevitably insane microtransaction prices(don't fucking deny this one. Blizzard sells 15$ skins after all) with just two goddamn modes and one hybrid is pathetic. Beyond pathetic even. WoD tier pathetic. Anthony Burch supporting Overwatch tier pathetic.
Even Colonial Marines launched with more shit than that.
should i buy this or will it be dead on release?
>>334716786
DOA
That stands for Dead On Arrival
>>334712081
Who cares the games dead on arrival
Buy it from the grey market and you're golden.
Depends on the kind of crowd it keeps. Wait a week or so and then decide.
I liked Orendi the most.
I dunno, I didn't like this game much.
>horrible balance
>horrible collision in every map
>mediocre map and gamemode design
>nasty fucking UI
>gameplay is slow and sloppy
>forced to do achievements / progression to unlock heroes
>costs 60 fucking dollars
I had moderately high hopes since I usually like 2k games, but unless they improve it a lot before release I'll probably pass.
I don't know what the fuck is up with companies being utterly unable to complete and release games properly anymore.
Are they going out of their way to lose as much money as possible?
>>334718134
Also, how is it that no one even knows this game exists? How is it possible that such a major game release has received no press whatsoever? I didn't even know it existed until a few days ago.
What I hope will happen is that they fix some of the bullshit and do a soft-rerelease a few months from now with a lower price.
Paladins is our last hope, I guess. but given that it's Hi-Rez I expect them to do something extremely stupid that ruins the game shortly before or after release.
>>334715364
>>334716712
I guess neither of you played Oscar Mike. He's constantly shouting shit like "NOOBTUBE" and other typical CoD shit.
>>334712081
>>334718523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aLQNgyeqh8
fits the character's personality though
>>334718523
That's not a fucking meme.
Why do you think people refer to him as "the call of duty guy"?
His name is Oscar Mike. He's a clone. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to get the joke.
>>334718660
Holy shit that's a pretty good trailer. How come this game has such poor marketing?
>>334718660
Honestly I thought I'd hate his dialogue, but I found myself chuckling more than a few times at some of his quotes.
>Activate cloak to get out of a jam
>"Later nerds"
>>334718523
Is Call of Duty a meme now?
>>334718523
Oscar Mike is great
>>334719046
If you hate it then it's classified as a meme.
>>334718523
He's a parody of that culture. Not just random memes
>>334718660
Oscar mikes voice sounds like its done by a random guy on the street with no talent.
Fuck everything about this game is a disaster.
>>334719367
I'm almost positive Oscar Mike is voiced by Spikefrom MLP
>>334718426
because it has no real marketing effort, while Overwatch has been standing around sniffing it's farts assuming by merely existing it automatically won something.
I expect the 'average' person is assuming Overwatch and Battleborn are the same thing.
If The Monday Combat audience still exists Battleborn should do ok, probably a bit better on consoles.
Overwatch will 'sell' well but will have a HoTS like scene, i/e dead as fuck that blizzard just funnels money into for a bit to make it look otherwise.
>>334719753
Thought the same about Phoebe being voiced byRaritybut it's someone else actually
>>334715716
Sorry if you don't get the game anon because Toby is fun as hell to play. But to each their own
>>334720348
I want Battleborn to do well. But I'm not sure if it will and might suffer from a dead community while being very MP focused.
>>334720782
I would probably buy Battleborn even for the ridiculous price. But I fear the game will be completely and utterly dead very quickly on PC and so I have to reconsider it.
>>334718523
Two of benedicts taunts are ripped righf from Arrested Development
I'll see you all may 3rd. Prepare to get your anus devastated by my girl Mellka
>>334721036
Not if I heal them first.
>>334720782
It won't outsell Overwatch in terms of numbers because blizzard has more drone people who just buy stuff because.
But it may do better than people expect (at least before 2k/Gearbox ruin it with scam microtransactions or something) Consoles don't have as much 'mobaesque' games as PC
it at least has PVE options.
What does the season pass even give you?
![[Hoppu Intensifies].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/84e8CBH.jpg "[Hoppu Intensifies].jpg")
>>334721036
>Wanted to play her
>Required level 32 to unlock
>Overwatch beta was at the same time but also shorter so I wanted to spend more time with it at first and then play BB so I gave up on Melka
>Unlocked Kelvin
>Melee is disorienting as fuck and Kelvin is a big target that does little damage and his shield passive is godawful
>Thorn requires too much precision for me to be good with
I enjoyed Miko at least. Ghalt, Caldarius, and Galilea I didn't get to play either despite wanting to.
>Not Marquis
it felt slow and very Borderlandsy
was I just playing it wrong or something?
>>334721462
kelvin is a tank. you can easily end up with 4k+ health by occasionally eating minions
>>334721462
The melee is annoying, I feel it would work better if the melee chars were 3rd person or at least you had some sort of FOV.
>>334721372
From the description it says Skins/taunts and instant unlock of new characters and 5 story missions
>>334721603
I know, I actually went in entirely set on eating up mininons to gain health and be a nuisance. The problem is that Kelvin is slow and oftentimes I'd get beaten to minion waves so I couldn't eat them, and he's also a huge target so it's not like I can park in lanes and wait for minions, plus I was tunnel visioned on getting crystals and trying to build things to keep waves up (which may have been part of the problem). His passive is not fun though, he gets a shield every time he casts an ability, but his abilities aren't all that spammable. Sublimate has a 20 second cooldown and Chomp is 5. In heated fights those shields will fall quickly. Maybe I just need to get used to him and the game.And a less shitty PC.I just wanted to eat people.
>>334721802
Melee really should have been third person.
>>334721550
Depends who you play, Oscar mike can get pretty damn fast with that one stealth upgrade, while Montana even running may as well be walking.
Speaking of the movement, anyone felt all the jumps were weirdly weak? like everyone seems to not jump worth a shit, even if they technically have a double jump.
It's too bad about how much people seem to dislike the game already from the writing and stuff.
The gameplay seems fine, not great but it's an okay one of those. Overwatch is gonna blow it out of the water, despite being a different thing.
And these constant fucking shill threads aren't helping. You fuckers aren't even subtle. I'd ask how much shitposting and viral marketing pays but from reading it it seems 2k just saved money and had the fucking writers of the game do it.
>>334721802
I thought story missions and characters were supposed to be free?
>>334721981
>Get Thorn's jump upgrade
>Suddenly it's Pre Sequel
>>334722039
Characters, modes and maps are free but the season pass gives skins, it makes the five free characters unlock instantly rather than needing to meet the requirements and one story mission per release totaling five.
>>334721997
>Overwatch is gonna blow it out of the water
I mean I liked the general flow of OW better, but BB has it's niche in being more slower paced and strategic
BB is basically SMNC 2 and OW is more like TF3
>>334722039
Characters are free, not story mission.
>>334721889
I did ok with Kelvin admitedly because I had a gear with massive sheild regen penalties but huge health and regen (as i recall Kelvin doesn't use a shield.)
>>334721036
>Brown elves
Gearbox knows my fetish.
this game is probably gonna do really well on console but is anyone gonna stick around on pc?
>>334722409
Depends. I think it's going to go the way of the original Borderlands.
Don't forget that even that game went up against the all consuming advertising beast that was MW2 and it still found an audience.
>>334722546
borderlands is a completely different game than cod though
it was the first fps looter
>>334722207
If OW had a PVE mode even if it was just BB's incursion against bots it'd probably destroy BB entirely on company brand.
OW Honestly is probably hurt more by being 'just' a pvp game. the characters have appeal to people but the gameplay style discourages people focus on specific characters and doesn't really leverage their lore as much.
>>334722039
Characters and multiplayer maps are free. Story missions and skins come in the season pass dlc.
>>334721802
>it would work better if the melee chars were 3rd person
Spent the entire weekend wrecking face with Phoebe.
Git gud.
Also I give credit to anyone who's smart enough to jump to my side and out of my field of view to make an escape.
I like the 1st person camera. You can sneak around people so much better.
>>334722671
>it was the first fps looter
Well that's wrong. Pretty sure the first game that bears that distinction would be Hellgate London.
But however, can anyone honestly say that Battleborn is the same game as Overwatch now that everyone has tried out the beta? Its similarities end in the fact that there are multiple characters to choose from and they're based on the first person perspective.
>>334722409
Hard to say, if there's enough of a PC userbase who want something like MNC it might.
on PC it's biggest enemy is more that people assume Battleborn and Overwatch are the same thing when both seem to have different gameplay aspersions.
What's the skill ceiling in this game like?
I forgot to install the OB so I never tried it.
I like games that allow me to fully dive in and engage my brain if I want to.
Combat looks pretty slow and uninteresting. Is there a lot of strategy to the maps and game modes?
>>334722820
didn't say 'can't' play Melee, said would work 'better' in 3rd person. the game gives terrible distance feedback, just reticule is red or reticule is not.
it also has a pretty weak FOV so melee have greater risk of tunnel visioning.
I mean Montana is so big he can't even see things standing right next to him because of his massive weapon model and size.
>>334712847
It ended at 10PM GMT + 8, which for us means 2 bong.
>>334723273
Fov is not the problem, gun models are. The game already goes up to 100 fov and it doesn't matter if the guns are too big
>>334712081
Battleborn?
I'm with Greymane, personally.
>>334723513
well Melee it's more the FOV because they usually have less obtrusive models but can't see good peripheral, easier to tunnel vision.
Montana's probably the worst with huge gun model blocking everything below, but at least in his case i feel it's deliberate.
>>334721036
I can't hear you over the sound of Coddsworth reamin dat ass
>>334721036
I'll be playing the Overwatch beta on May 3rd waiting to see if Battleborn is worth or if it's dead on arrival.
>>334719753
I'm almost positive Oscar Mike is not voiced by a woman.
>>334724694
Oscar Mike is Jim Foronda, same guy who is ISIC.
How do I git gud with Thorn?
>>334725472
Learn to Aim, learn to headshot, learn to not stand in one spot idiot sniping.
Also since she has no shield any item that penalizes shield anything has zero drawback for her, she can still get overshielded By Reyna or anything else.
>>334725472
Go extendo jumps. You will never die.
>>334712081
The game is FUCKED.
>Character ability combination exploits everywhere. like healing mushroom dude and shield boosting butch eyepatch girl
>melee Character are OP
> Item combination Exploits.
>games over within first 5 minutes then team surrenders or game drags of pointlessly.
>grinding grinding grinding
>Balance is a mess.
I can't wait for the MOBA trend to end. Sure these games are great if you can get a groups of friends together, but there is no way to just jump on and git good without a group.
All these companies just want the e-sport crowds money.
>>334721550
>>334721981
>>334722175
>got Caldarius yesterday
>got shot to pieces really quick several times
>start to think he has too low life and shields
>wait, what if I keep spamming his double jump
>suddenly the game is UT lite and I never ever ever die anymore
His gun is still a pea shooter, but the fact that he's really hard to hit means you can spam that shit for days.
>>334725134
>that bootcamp video was just him talking to himself
HAHAHA
>>334726003
Well considering he also has a Sword, a skill that rush slashes and an Ult that's a air dive he's clearly meant to both melee and shoot. get in slash where you can, shoot on the retreat/when it's not safe to dive in. Pretty good hit and run guy.
>>334714619
>Shadman puts out a piece on Orendi
>It's not littered with his usual grungy piercing degeneracy
It's a bloody miracle. I like his art when he doesn't go turning everyone into skanks
who /bestgirl/ here
>>334726446
She's to much a pain for me to play on console, maybe if I get better gear for a melee loadout. I agree best design.
I still Like Ambra's sheer bitch crazy level Voice lines more though.
>>334725997
>Play incursion with both Miko and Reyna on the enemy team
>Repeatedly murder both of them all game long as Marquis
>If they so much as peek into mid they die
>All of the enemy teams offensive pushes fail miserably
>Win handily
>>334712081
Ambra was amazingly tons of fun. Game was also fun enough for me to want to buy it and I went in expecting to highly dislike the game because 'why play another game besides dota if its a moba'. But this game works really well, you can tell they took a bunch of ideas from other current mobas and made them work. Really wish the character roster was a bit deeper though, not enough heroes honestly.
>>334726270
Sword is nice, but I only used it situationally when I was doubly sure I was free to go in.
A lot of characters can wreck him quickly when he overextends.
>>334726446
All those kills. Fuck that one lore challenge though. I still don't know how the fuck you are meant to do that one.
This game reconfirmed my thoughts of Gearbox: they dont learn from the past, they cant balance for shit, and making things work properly isnt their strong suit. I was kinda hyped during beta, but then later matches of Incursion killed it for me. This game is an absolute mess
>>334726675
>happily murder Marquees all weekend long
>suddenly I run into that one Marquee who actually knows what the fuck he's doing
>he outplays me several times and duels me to death
>as fucking Phoebe
>>334725997
>Playing Incursion
>Playing as Ambra
>Actually being a healer instead of going on the offense
>Equip equipment that boosts her healing power, auto regenerates health, and automatically increases Heat over time
>use the skill that lets her heal her flame balls
>Throw a ball into a mosh pit of allied heroes and minions
>Ball's healing and gear equipped make it impossible to kill her without taking out the ball
>unlock the skill that reduces cooldown for the ball
Playing as Ambra is like being handed the win.
>>334727362
There will be more heroes in the final build of the gameafter you pay an extra $15
>>334726375
>shadmam is doing porn of battleborn
>might get some space elf sex
BLESS
I hate his grungy shit too but I love his art
>>334728023
Everyone gets the characters. People who get Season Pass just don't need to meet the unlock requirement that'll be piss-easy anyway.
>>334726270
His sword needs to steal health like EVERY OTHER JENERHIT
It makes zero sense for him to be the only one without any life steal when he is the most flimsy.
>>334727362
So far they are adding 5 more characters one for each faction
First one is a sexy fish lady monk from eldrid.
If the game does well they will probably add more
>>334728198
>His sword needs to steal health
He has an upgrade for that once you get his character rank up. But even then you don't get it until in-game level 5 or even worse.
15% health steal doesn't seem that great anyway.
>wanted to try out deande
>get a cool silly taunt unlocked for her
>managed level 31 of the 38 yesterday
>eh, Beta is still running tomorrow
>get home and Beta is over
I just know I'll get the full game and I'll never get that silly taunt back.
>>334727829
Eventually people will realize that her sunspot has really shitty health and is 90% of what Ambra has going for her, then she will stop scoring top in every game.Right?
>>334729074
You can increase sunspot's health with one of her Level 8 abilities.
>>334729150
Yeah, but increased health means that you aren't taking decreased cooldown, and it still has shitty health even with the upgrade.
>>334721550
>play Boldur
>get mutation that grants a speed boost during rage
>kill a minion
>throw my axe
>mfw that 60% speed increase
>>334728378
The problem is that it shares a Level with his double-jump mutations.
He NEEDS the lateral distance increase for his second jump in order to harass better, OR the height increase to enable more unorthodox escape and approach routes.
No (balanced) amount of lifesteal can compete with those two upgrades.
>>334729474
Well, it's not like you should just sit in front of spider robot and soak it up. Find a good spot for one or two sunspots, preferably a spot where minions frequent, try to keep them both healed the best you can, when one breaks, spawn a new one.
At that point, if you're still alone being harassed, your team has issues. Don't worry though. Just use her heat shield's speed up ability to get the fuck out of dodge.
>>334729074
Sunspot does have shitty health but with how hectic shit gets, its not really easy to hit. I took the talent that made it so enemies running into it take the full damage but im not sure if that was the correct choice to make.
>>334728367
neat.
Is there any reason to buy season pass for this?
>>334729921
Not really, no.
>>334729074
>people don't insta shoot sunspots when they appear
>occasionally shoot your firendly Ambra's sunspots out of habit
>>334729615
>He NEEDS the lateral distance increase for his second jump in order to harass better, OR the height increase to enable more unorthodox escape and approach routes.
nah man, he already has all the escape tools he needs. Flash, Dash, and Jump Smash are already good enough to get him out of anything AND harass at the same time. The lifesteal helps a lot when jungling.
>>334729921
If you wanna show your support for Gearbox and/or 2K.
>>334729960
>>occasionally shoot your firendly Ambra's sunspots out of habit
I have done this
>>334727795
Marquis is actually quite overpowered. Nobody realizes this because he's a sniper, and you know the kind of goobers snipers attract, so most Marquis you find in games sucks a bag of dicks.
The fact that he can fight melee characters and just straight up out-damage them is telling. Yours wasn't a special case.
>>334729943
>>334729962
What rewards do the coop missions give that cant be gotten elsewhere? Or is it just story?
>>334729615
I think the majority of the people need better jumps by default
>>334730118
>tfw the last game I played last night had a Marquis chilling on the ledge like usual in Overgrowth
>Singlehandedly won the enemies the game by keeping all of us pushed back
Meanwhile our Marquis did jackshit. Enemy Marquis never died or even got touched far as I know.
>>334730128
Better character XP, alternate way for credits and loot drops. nothing 'unique' to the PVE mode otherwise.
>>334730128
We don't know.
If they are dicks the missions are one of the two unlock requirements for the new characters.
If they aren't dicks there will be pretty much no benefit to it outside of story and just more variety in case you want to grind story missions.
>>334729749
>Hectic
Sure, but it's still a giant glowing fireball, and her sunspots area actually very dangerous and should always be high priority targets.
The big problem is when Ambra fights somebody alone and they completely ignore her sunspot, then get pissy when she gets 30 kills and calls her overpowered.30 kills isn't an exaggeration either. I've actually gotten that because the only people who attack your sunspots are other Ambra players.
>>334712081
Looks like a terrible eldar cosplay.
>>334729960
>the lifesteal helps a lot when jungling
You'd have a point if there was actually a jungle with (relatively) harmless neutral enemies to get HP from.
The only source of HP short of enemy players are minions, and if your enemy is actually contesting the lane you'll probably take more damage than you healed trying to melee them.
If you get the lateral distance increase for his jump and use some HP-regen gear, it improves his survivability so much and he can do so much disrespectful shit because he's so hard to hit.
>>334730278
> tfw my last game was a 499-500 meltdown loss with 1 minute left
My team just the fuck apart midgame and lost a 100 point lead, and Ghalt is too fucking slow to 2 lane it.
who /digital deluxe/ here
>>334730776
This, youre better off using one of your loadout slots for a Hp regen and backing off/porting back to base than trying to do 100% sustain. the guy wants to hit and move.
>>334730541
>hear all the playstation players whine about and discuss ambra
>finally meet on in PC Beta
>shoot her sunspots and just dodge away from her
>don't have any real problems with her the entire match
Her damage is still pretty insane, but I feel like gitting gud gets you a long way as it usually does.
>>334730943
Unless it cost 'exactly'the same as regular nope. this game isn't Bad but 2K are not exactly a based publisher to be rewarding extra money to.
>>334730776
>harmless neutral enemies
Depending on what characters the other team picked, thralls can range from "Not even worth the time" to "Wins the game by themselves".
Some characters have a REALLY hard time killing them, but if the enemy team has say, a half decent Marquis, then you're just feeding them exp.
>>334730128
Its fun tbqh. I enjoyed the PvE side more than I thought I would. The fact that its only one story mission per dlc is kind of shit but they come with skins and a story mision for only 5 bucks so I guess its not the worst DLC scam ever. Still think it should have been at least two missions per DLC
>>334730981
>>334730776
What is a good gear loadout for Caldarius anyway?
>>334731012
She gor nerfed at some point before open beta. most major complaints about her were from then.
>>334731012
Almost the entirety of her damage comes from her mandatory first upgrade that makes her sunspot apply a damage increasing debuff on anything it hits.
That single upgrade is the reason why her sunspots are both priority #1, and why she can dunk shitters who don't kill them.
>>334730541
The thing is yes once you take her sunspot down she isnt that hard but the fact remains she shouldn't be able to completely fuck up melee characters with her beam that easily. The beam needs to be shortened and her life steal needs to be reduced. She shouldn't be able to lock down a lane by herself when her purpose is support.
MONTANA
https://youtu.be/QDzZbz-YGYs
https://youtu.be/QDzZbz-YGYs
https://youtu.be/QDzZbz-YGYs
>5 bucks for one story mission
What kind of shitty dlc is this
At least they arent selling characters
>>334731150
It also depends on if your team is outright morons unable to grasp 'you must stand on this circle to actually get the minions' or not. i've had at least 3 games where Thorn/Marquis players contentedly Sniped the middle Thralls, but made no effort to 'move' there and an enemy just walked by later and capped it.
>>334731191
It really shouldn't be that way at all but it's 2k so of course they gotta screw people somehow to get after purchase money.
>>334731201
Only got to play him once before Beta ended, I'd say one Regen item then probably movement or CDR. His grenades really good for just irrtating people even i you can't get a good dive in.
>>334730776
I dunno man, what are you Helixing along the way? Cause with that lifesteal you can fuck up people who try to get near you.
>Dash into enemy
>+15% melee speed
>+15% lifesteal
>+15% Gavitic Burts damage
>+X% melee damage (forgot the actual number or which level it's at)
you can sustain a lot of damage and kill better when you're in their face, you don't always have to hit-and-run and be mobile.
>>334731584
where in-game does this or any character music play?
>>334731240
Gearbox went full retard and listen to the pissbabies who were only dying to her because they had no idea what they were doing.
Surprise surprise, the nerfs didn't affect her at all and she can still top the scoreboard on kills because people are stupid.
>>334731625
Published by 2K. I'm honestly amazed they were able to restrain the jewing to the Co Op aspect only.
>>334731801
Im not familiar with 2K, you're gonna have to elaborate
>>334731725
it doesnt, it was hidden in the code
>>334731480
Ambra's lifeleech was a tickle beam that is only a threat to people who are already almost dead, and then it was nerfed even more.
See
>>334731476
For why her lifeleech can even harm somebody.
>literally expect nothing because Gearbox is utter SHIT
>download because I have literally have nothing else to do
>game is fun as fuck
YET
>sub 30
>like literally goes above 23 fps
>also Killzone-esque delay/sluggishness on the controls
Even with those two HORRIBLE cons, the game is still fun.
>>334731704
>+X% melee damage (forgot the actual number or which level it's at)
18%, I think.
>>334731943
The Montana song does. You unlock it in one of his lore challenges, but I don't know which one and it's a slightly different version where Montana comments on the lyrics as it plays. I don't know if any other characters have their own songs either.
>>334732150
>but I don't know which one
Only the big center one has voice/music files attached to it though, right?
>>334731865
This is the company who publishes Bioshock infinite, the Grand theft Auto's La Noire etc. the have a pretty longstanding tendency towards post launch price grabbing. They aren't Zenimax 'legendary cabal of sterotypical jews' level corrupt and they arent as outright a whore as WB is, but they are pretty up there in terms of asshole publishers.
Basically with 2k 60 dollar sis only the 'downpayment'
>>334732241
I honestly don't know because I never unlocked any centre challenges - I only know about the Montana song because one of my friends unlocked it.
>Unlock Phoebe, Ambra, Whiskey Foxtrot, Gallilea all almost at the same time right before beta ends
Too cruel. I only could try out Phoebe and Gallilea and both were really fun.
>>334731987
>Literally
Also, it sounds like your computer isn't up to the task/it's unpotimized. I haven't found and delays or sluggishness in the controls. The gameplay isn't particularly fast, but I wouldn't liken it to Killzone.
>>334732281
Should i expect them to release more paid dlc in the future alongside season pass?
>>334730541
Even if that's what's happening, she's still obscene because every single Ambra I've ever fought has dominated. I remember one game where me(Reyna), Montanna, and eventually an Oscar Mike all tried to focus her down at the same time at a point in the game where we all had decent levels and gear.The Ambra walked away with 3 kills.
Whatever her gimmick is, it's ridiculous that she can support, DPS, assassinate, AND tank WELL, ALL at the same time.
>>334722342
I never lost a single game as Kevin, maybe one i was 4v5.
Kelvin is one of the best tanky tank because of how insane you can chomp, hide, chomp, hide. in any 1vs1 you win. in teamfights you engage with the stunball or escape with the stunball. The stunball is INSANELY OP. Just taking the corrupted palslut's stun usualy makes you die, now imagine a whole team. I won't even tell about his stupid ULT that stucks you into place or blocks/cuts your whole team so you die altogether or one by one.
What annoyed me more is a game I lost while playing 4vs5 as marquis. I had like 40 kills and 3 deaths. when our boss was at 5% hp, i rushed their boss and put it to around 20%, i died alone ,my mate came, put the boss to 1% and we lost. all the while a retarded Mike oscar was running around doing nothing.
>>334732410
Galilea is broken as fuck to be honest familia
What's your biggest disappointment?
>Rockets deal zero damage
>Ultimate is more of a hinderance because it makes you stand still for several seconds
>Deals no damage either
>>334732527
> he didn't spec slow and know the plasma cannon mauls shields
>>334732505
Yes. the question is how they are screwing you/not screwing you. Like GTAIV DLC, decent enough more like classic expansion packs, infinte DLC, pure shit.. GTAV dlc is all 'e're a mmo gib us cash card lawl' level shit, etc.
i/e what are you getting and for how much.
>>334732596
Galilea is broken if your rangeds dont know how to counter her, or if you have some squishy melees. other tanks kill her.
>>334732654
Hit a single Q you dumbfuck, a whole magazine can kill any attacker without reloading.
The ultimate deals more than 50% an attacker's health.
You're just bad sorry bra
>>334732445
Sorry, talking about consoles.
>>334712081
Not anymore you shitter
who's the best hero and why is it marquis?
>YOU DISGUST ME
>>334732410
>started playing the PS4 beta on Monday
>got addicted to Benedict and barely played anyone else
>the others I played the most were also Peacekeepers
>mfw realising the terrible mistake I'd made
Still, I had a blast and it convinced me to actually get the game.
>>334732581
People are inherently cowardly in moba esque games (with good reason mind you but still) they won't push forward unless you can 'force' them to with a good initiation timing etc.
>>334732654
>I suck dick with Benedict so I'll just call him bad
Learn to land Hawkeye and stop being shit at the game
Accelerators are the worst thing that could happen to level design.
They essentially contain all the fighting in the center. No flanking, no picks, no counterattacks.
>>334732934
DAD! DAD! THE BUTLER TRIED TO KILL ME!
>>334732773
>a whole magazine can kill any attacker without reloading
You're retarded. Even with 50% more damage to shields and shield pen items one mag won't even kill the weakest of heros.
Also, Q lasts like 2 seconds, so that's 2-3 rockets max.
I do still wreck face on PS4 with him.
>>334732527
>Fighting Ambra 3v1
>With a Montana
>Losing
>Doubt.jpg
If that's actually somehow true though, then it's your fault for not killing the sunspot. When you fight Ambra, the sunspot is the ENTIRE threat. It's really simple. If you shoot the sunspot, you've already won.
Fighting Ambra and not shooting the sunspot is the equivalent of fighting anybody and just shooting at the ground expecting to kill them.
>>334733029
I only played incursion and the accelerators there made sense
>>334732773
>>334732970
>Learn to land Hawkeye
>Learn to land autoaim skill
K
Anyway, that's a whole one usable skill (and probably only with mutation that shots 3 rockets at once) out of his pool?
>>334732953
This is completely true, and the main issue with Battleborn is that you can't solopush without a sniper - Marquis, Thorn, or even Oscar Mike.
Those are the true "pushing" heroes as they can kill buildables from afar without taking much risks.
>>334733081
You have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about.
Benedict can kill any attacker within 3 seconds by only hitting his Q.
also
>2-3 rocket max
>>334733029
it's not the accelerators it's people are inherently extra paranoid of dying in Mob alike games especially early on, and like 3/4 of the playerbase don't even know you have a teleport to base command.
so they all stay near the middle because it has that one buildable healing spot.
>>334733206
On Meltdown they are right after the center area.
>tfw preordered collectors edition
fuck this game for making me fall for yet another 2k scam
>>334733251
you just need a good initiator/tank/distraction. they will move with the group out of paranoia being left out. Snipers help don't get me wrong but if a guy playing Montana for example just keeps pushing himself a bit further forward each wave the rest of them will follow. but a montana who never moves from the wall even when the enemy has no actual sniper is going to just encourage the rest to hunker.
>>334733029
Just destroy it.
>b-but I'm always Rath
>and my entire team is also always Rath
Maybe bring a single gun.
You can straight up shoot at the top of the accelerators on Paradise and they die fairly quickly.
Otherwise send the enemy packing or kill them and then kill the accelerator. This isn't rocking scythers.
>>334731201
Anything that boosts the following:
>Health Regen (MANDATORY)
So he doesn't have to go back to base as often.
>Shield recharge delay
>Shield recharge rate
To reduce downtime when taking cover.
So instead of popping back out with 150 shield after 6 seconds, he pops out with like 230 after 5 seconds.
>>334731704
He's not some kind of brawler, he's a pureblood harasser. You might dash in once or twice to try and "intimidate" the enemy, but you shouldn't commit to anything.
If he ain't mobile he ain't worth shit because he doesn't have the damage to compete against specialists at range or up close.
>>334733730
They are piss easy to rebuild and cost 200. Which is the lowest price for anything I think.
>>334732934
Reyna, because she wins fucking games
>>334733361
>Accelerators on meltdown
>A problem at all
If you play melee characters then point taken because all of your teammates are likely to be braindead, but accelerators in meltdown can be shot and destroyed from your own side of the map in about two seconds. If anybody actually cares to do this then they are a non-issue.
>>334733853
There is like a 10-20 second cooldown before you can build it back though
Do items that increase reloading speed increase the cooling rate of Montana's minigun?
>>334733081
See this shitty webm. It takes literally only 1 barrage of hawkeye and then a rocket or two.
>>334733251
Benedict also is good at pushing too. I'd say he's the best since his ability to push doesn't rely on special skills. Just spam rockets at a mob and with fast reload gear, you can keep pushing while harassing at enemies.
>>334733853
and that's 200 wasted on rebuilding it every single time.
>>334733873
I wish she wasn't always making that stupid Face. Great giant butt fun kit decent lines that are Sassy without being too cliched or groaning, butt always has this terrible angry face that doesn't seem to fit her character.
>>334734365
Benedicts reload looks fucking comical
>>334732934
Thorn
Her skill set is stupid good. Couple that with a half decent shot with her bow and you're unstoppable.
>>334722409
Does PC play with console, or is it all compartmentalized?
>>334734365
Please tell me the final release will have an FOV slider of some kind. That gun model is atrociously large.
>>334734396
WHERE IS HER HAT, GEARBOX?
>>334734541
>crossplay
>in an fps
what do you think
>>334734596
beta had a fov slider. you want gun models changed not fov
>>334723148
>What's the skill ceiling in this game like?
Definitely quite high, considering it's a MOBA where pretty much everything is a skill shot and it's in three dimensions. Instead of just aiming side-to-side, you can miss up and down as well.
>>334734365
But it's two rockets, a barrage and then two more.
A total of 7, anon.
>>334734596
It does have a FOV slider. Doesn't really help with viewmodel.
>>334734596
I thought it already was an option on PC? If not, then they're retarded because the guns take up way too much space on the screen combined with all the other pixel shit that's flying on the screen any given second.
>>334733873
I wish her face wasn't always making those shitty expressions. I'm not normally a lover of chocolate ladies but she grows on you, fun kit decent lines and a nice giant ass. I just wish her default facial expression wasn't so shitty.
Right now most characters seem to have the potential to be pretty fucking strong.
So who's the most definitive worthless piece of shit in the entire roster?
>>334734541
All seperate
>>334734396
If i was going on looks + kit then Ghalt or Shayne. Both are great characters.. they just arent as good at winning games. Reynas long ass slow alone is almost a game winner.
>>334734365
>Game tells you to taunt
>You don't taunt
If this is your webm of your own gameplay, then christ man, you have no idea how to play, do you?
>>334734793
I don't like whiskey foxtrot at all. Also shayne&aurox feels pretty weak compared to other melee characters though they have a ranged secondary
>>334734793
I never saw a decent Whiskey but I don't know if that was just the crappy people playing as him
>>334728167
>People who get Season Pass just don't need to meet the unlock requirement that'll be piss-easy anyway.
What about campaign missions?
Are those going to be behind a DLC wall?
>>334734728
The first one was a miss, the second one was splash damage, only two out of three of the rockets in the hawkeye barrage did any damage, and the then two seekers. That's five right there. A kill at full health around 6 seconds is pretty fast in Battleborn.
>>334734793
Attikus by a mile. Nigga gets shredded until late game, and even struggles then vs ranged characters in incursion.
>>334734793
WF looks the most underpowered.
On paper he looks like shit.
None of those that I encountered posesssed any danger.
Haven't get the chance to play him.
>>334734970
The dlcs are just basically coop missions and nothing more
>>334734938
Shayne is almost broken shes so good. She's a ranged character first and foremost however. I always laugh when idiots chase me harmlessly with her instead of buffing her boomerangs.
>>334734938
>Rath starts his spin2win attack
>Fetch and stun him out of it
That alone makes Aurox invaluable
>>334734938
S&A have some pretty snazzy sneak attack potential to them. You can go in on a squishy character, get a good smacking in before they retreat and then grab them back with your E for another round of pounding.
>>334734793
Caldarius is weak imo. He's fast and mobile but he doesn't hit hard at all, even at close range where he is supposed to excel. I don't see him really excelling at anything and many other characters can do what he does but better.
>>334734793
Whiskey seems to be the one most commonly sited as being just there.'Toby also felt kinda lackluster, for a guy who has a charge projectile rail gun that isn't hitscan he sure does feel like he doesn't do much damage.
>>334735138
That thing's a chick?
>>334734970
The game will launch with, I think, eight campaign missions.
There is a season pass for three more missions and a couple of outfits/gestures.
No other DLC/microtransaction has been announced so far.
>>334734938
>Shayne and Aurox
>Weak
I absolutely hate playing against her with any squishy character because unless your team chain stuns her into the ground, she can dive your team all game long, kill someone, and then just walk out because fuck you.
>>334734793
Whiskey Foxtrot is pretty shit
Gets a bit better with the scope upgrade but doesn't come anywhere close to Oscar Mike
>>334735271
Didn't the 30 year old lady voice not tip you off?
>>334735271
Surprisingly yes
>>334735271
Shayne's some punk teenage girl with a Djinn yes. Think's she's a noir detective or something.
>>334735372
>>334735379
>>334735386
I thought he was a teenage, emo twink.
Dammit now my buzz is gone.
>>334735452
She is one of the obvious 'randumb gearbox' style characters, Like Orendi. though at least Orendi is more batshit in a violent way to tiny Tina wigger.
>>334735579
Speaking about gearbox, i'm just surprised these threads aren't filled with more shitposting.
>>334735296
>then just walk out
>tfw people cloak and think I can't see them anymore
>>334735720
people already got that out of the way when the beta started
>>334735296
Thing with fighting shayne is if she misses that fetch in the middle of a fight she is in for trouble since most Shayne mains start off a fight with the sneak attack. So she has no exit strategy without that overshield+shield recharge from fetch connect. Just learn to predict that fetch and jump to avoid it and she is easy to deal with
>>334735720
Most people have worn themselves out by now.
>hating on Whiskey
He doesn't have Oscar's AOE but he fucking melts single targets.
>>334735275
>launching with eight
Okay, that's not so bad.
I was thinking everything after the two I played in the beta were going to be DLC.
Unlocking the things you want is pretty easy, and it's clear what you have to do, so I think I'm sold.
>>334735089
Missions provide loot. Some missions unlock characters.
They can always pull some stupid shit like a special loot only obtainable from DLC mission or a character being unlocked either by DLC mission or rank 999
>>334735737
No, I mean literally just walks out
>Uses cloak to dive somebody
>Murders them because she shits damage
>Gets an overshield from it
>Walks out
>>334734825
>>334734683
Just once, I want us to get to play with consolefags.
It's the only way to actually end the controller vs mouse argument with underage and normies.
>>334735737
>oscar mike and shayne always try cloaking and running away
>nail them with a stun and fuck their shit up
Cloaks are absolute shit in escaping 1v1 situations.
>>334733357
>like 3/4 of the playerbase don't even know you have a teleport to base command.
Oh shit, what?
Was that a hotkey, or...?
I fucking hope the final version doesn't have auto-aim on pc. It's ridiculously easy to shoot when the crosshair just follows people
>>334735275
The dlc is for five more missions anon. One per pack
>Playing as a certain character
>Enemy team has the same character on their side
>You both get into a 1v1, with you as the winner
>Taunt
Is there any better feeling?
>>334736108
pressing b
>>334735720
Honestly once you Remove fucking Birch Gearbox humor is 'tolerable.' It's still terrible and full of references but it just has that kinda pitching the lowhanging softball angle.
>>334736171
Yes. Bullying Marquis is my past time.
>>334736171
i'm pretty sure only brain damaged people pick marquis, every game i spot one on the enemy team and just snipe them all game
>>334736176
Fuck me.
>>334736148
Sorry. The main point was, that there's 8 to start with, though.
>>334731584
They should do the same as Anarchy Reigns and play the character's song when you get a kill streak. It would put a little bit of musical diversity during the PvP instead of being mostly silent until a sentinel is under 10%.
>>334736015
Didn't Titanfall have that at one point? I know they at the very least considered it.
>>334734926
I only taunt if the dude on the other team keeps chasing me, expecting a free kill when I'm not paying attention to them.
>>334736108
>>334736176
or Press down on the Dpad if your console moding.
Admtiedly I didn't realize it either the first day then went 'hey wait shouldn't this have a TP command if it's a moba like game?'
literally faster to port back and instant heal to full the majority of the time. Cept if you are Montana he actually takes a long ass time to walk back.
>>334736190
I really liked both Claptastic Voyage and Battleborn dialogues.
Occasinal ZOOM AND ENHANCE is not that bad when played out.
At least neither had characters that were opressed gay by the way, don't judge.
>>334736171
>Orendi mirror
>Sprinting back and forth after eachother like a pair of crackheads, dropping Chaos Pillars left and right whilst bouncing with Nullify
And then it gets to that point where you've blown all your CDs and have to pelt eachother with ticklish bottle rockets
>>334736462
Don't think they did. Nobody would make shooters crossplay because it's too unfair.
>>334736190
Frankly, I found myself chuckling a few times in the campaign missions.
ARACHNISSSS kind of put me in a giggle fit, but I was drunk so that may be part of it.
Also, I have a friend who is extremely arachnophobic, so that part was funny with him, and we were all explaining that he's NOT a spider.
>>334735737
>>334735979
She also gets 30% movespeed on shield break and has like 2k health. Its pretty hard to put one down that doesn't want to be put down.
>>334736171
Montana has an oddly large amount of banter for fighting himself.
>>334736283
Marquis is a sniper, of course he attracts all the shitters.
>>334736171
>tfw you get a nemisis medal from killing them so much
Also a lot of chracters have special dialouge when you do that which is usually pretty funny
>OM
>commencing identity crisis!
>>334736462
They were considering it for one of the Xbox Live for Windows games, IIRC.
Testing showed the obvious: put consoles with PC, and they're going to have a bad time.
>>334736580
I think all of them do, it's just that Montana is a very common pick so you're much more likely to run into a clone than with most of the others.
>>334736509
>ZOOM AND ENHANCE
This line ripped a chortle from my cold, dead heart.
That whole sequence with the gung-ho sentry was adorable.
>>334736171
>Thorn mirrors
>Tfw when you get the crit and kill her
I will never not taunt
>>334736698
I end up mirror matching a lot as Orendi and didn't hear any as far as I remember. But i may just white noise her voice half the time.
>>334736834
Is crit when you headshot? Does it do double damage?
>>334736509
Kleese has a taunt that's literally him zooming and enhancing.
>>334736929
Headshots are guaranteed crits, not sure about the damage, it certainly feels at least double.
There's random crit chance as well for most things, I think.
>>334736929
probably 150% by default but yeah. That's partly why Montana has such a tiny head.he's already so big a target if you gave him a proper size head he'd never survive even the most retarded snipers.
>it's another battleborn shill thread
gearbox is getting desperate
>>334736929
Headshots are either guaranteed crits, or are their own separate super-crit.
Any Thorn or Marquis player that can land headshots will obliterate anybody they aim their weapon at.
