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DS3 > DS1
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>>334655436

Agreed. DS1shitters will try to act like DS1 is better but deep down they know nobody will go back to that shit

>better bosses
>better graphics
>better combat
>better music
>last third of the game isn't complete dog shit
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Demons and Dark Souls both have better characters and more coherent stories and lore. Because of that, the atmosphere is better. Dark Souls 3 is a proper sequel to 2 though, despite being weak in these departments.

The OST in those games is beter than this one too.
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>>334655575
>implying i'm not playing das1 right now getting constant invasions
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>>334655919
not really
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>Pre-ordered the game
>40 minutes played

It's just the same shit again and I really despise the souls' newer combat direction of "Let's shove as many enemies in a group as we can and make them zip across the screen"
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>>334655436
Not a magicfag but Poise, Sorcery, Miricles, and Heavy weapon builds are broken in 3.
Multiple convents are the exact same fucking thing.

If you are not using a 1 handed weapon you are 100% weaker than someone who is.

Shits broken all over the place.
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IT'S SO HARD WE WANT A DIFFICULTY SLIDER!!!! I CAN'T GET PASSED THE 3RD BOSS!!!!!

will from cave?
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>>334659407
They haven't when people were bitching on every release of a souls game.
Why would they now?
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FUCK I HATE THIS SHIT but I love it
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>>334660585
Unable to Summon
Unable to be Summoned.

Life is pain.
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>DS3>DS2>DS1
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>>334662332
reported
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DS1 > DS3 > DeS > DS2
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If I pirate this, does online work?
I don't want to deal with summoning people.
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>>334663552
neo /v/ is real.
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>>334657542
>40 minutes played
>didn't get past the fucking tutorial
lmao
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>>334660792
>Get summoned
>Everything is going great
>Host gets the boss fog and walk through
>Suddenly a loading screen
>Back in my world

A lot of the online stuff is completely broken. It's like they're still using the same shitty netcode from DaS1.
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>>334655436
I feel bad for not liking the game at all. Can't even tell that to my friends.
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>>334663552
You can't play online with a pirated version, no. Also you're not forced to summon, you can go solo even when you are online. Just stay unkindled if you don't wanna be invaded.
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>mfw they managed to fuck up the darkmoon covenant AGAIN

Sure is great never being summoned to help people that would never be in way of the blue this far in the game anyway! Fucking From should have just brought back the guilt system to let Darkmoons invade Mound makers/Fingers
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>>334655575
2bh I'd rather do another run of DS1 and stop at Anal Rodeo than play DS3 again. Everything you said is true though, except the combat. The mechanics are solid and the animations nice but it's completely ruined by the encounter and enemy design.
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>>334665376

oh no multiplayer didn't work one time, worst fucking game ever.
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Honestly, I just think DaS3 is linear as fuck, it felt like going trough one way, just some different path every now and then.
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Dark Souls 3 surprised me on multiple levels.
The level design is on par with or better than Bloodborne. Each individual level is goddamned massive and they work well with all playstyles.
I'm not sure I'm a fan of the more Bloodborne-reminiscent progression, I wish there were fucking 7 areas accessible from the start like in DS1, but the sheer quality keeps that from bothering me.
Hitboxes and animations are badass. The only fatal flaw is the PVP, which for some reason remains shit. They've had too much time to fix their netcode and still haven't.

I'm having fun, /v/.
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>>334665376
I've only had that problem when trying to summon reds.
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>>334665753
>ughhhh why can't it be like skyrimmm
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>>334665554
Didn't I see you yesterday Complaining about never being summoned, or invasions or something?
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>>334665906
or...why can't it be like DaS1?
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>>334666191
Souls games have always been linear. Every single one.
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>>334665515
you actually can
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>>334666534
No they weren't. Are you the "but you always end up at the same place!" fag from yesterday?
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dark souls 3 is the better game and a proper sequel, but 1 should obviously have a special place in your heart
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>>334666691
No, but it's correct.
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>>334667345
Ignoring the fact that half of the paths in DS1 are entirely optional and can be done in any order (can even do areas backwards) and that most of the branches in 3 are mandatory and lead to dead ends.
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>>334667837
>required and optional bosses are dead ends
Did you even finish the game?
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Can anyone help me find the staff that makes spells diverse, the weapon art unlocks a unique secondary effect for each spell.

There's also apparently a blacksmith who upgrades your wespons to their true weapon art.
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>>334655575
>better bosses

objectively false. every good DS1 boss was done FAR better in previous games. abyss watchers are a butchered fusion of maria and artorias. the royal bros are just O&S but spammier. nameless king is like crossing a gimped kalameet with ornstein again. every other boss is a shitty, shallow gimmick that is either too easy or too reliant on dex builds to enjoy.

>last third of the game isn't complete dog shit

it's almost as bad. irithyll is a lazily designed linear pathway with a dozen bonfires, the dungeon/catacombs are literally just chalice dungeons reskinned, the profane capital and anor londo are short as fuck areas with a bunch of enemies thrown in. lothric castle is enemy spam with minimal exploration. farron is an open poison swamp that's directly taken from shrine of amana except worse. the only well designed areas are the first handful and cathedral. everything else is hot garbage and strikes me as more unfinished than DS1
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>>334668019
Yes I did. You finish the small areas and hit a wall, after which your only choice is to teleport back. If the world design was anyhwere near the first third of DS1 they would all connect back to previous areas in neat ways which would make it so that you can get where you need to be without taking you out of the world with quick travel. In the early parts of DS1 no matter which part you take there is a way to progress with the game instead of running into a dead end and backtracking. The only exceptions to this are the great hollow and the catacombs.
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>>334668019
THEY ARE DEAD ENDS. you literally reach the end of the path and it stops.

in DS1 most areas looped back in on each other in an interesting way.

even DS2 is less linear. you can choose which way you want to head in addition to it being about the dead ends. DS3 is the most linear one.

after the tutorial in DS1, you could fight up to 5 bosses. you could go to over 4 different areas from the very start.

in DS2 you could go to 3 different areas from the very start.

in DS3 you can only go one way.
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>>334668879
You can go 4 ways in DS2 and you can go two ways in DS3 since you can fight the dancer early. Your main point is still correct though.
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>>334668513
>it's almost as bad

the nostalgia is in full effect
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Killing the Dragon in the beginning of ds3 sucks and takes forever.
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>>334655436
PvE wise, I'd say Dark Souls 3 is on par, if not better. PvP, definitely.

>Invade
>Fuckers have 3 Phantoms with straight swords

or

>Invade
>Guy is slippin sliding

or

>Invade
>They have 3 phantoms
>They're all lagging so you can't hit any

On top of this, estus recovery is disgusting

Great game From
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>>334668790
>>334668879
>I want less varied areas to explore and want the environment to look the same the entire time.
Why does From even put effort into their games? They could just slap some skyrim-tier dungeons and as long as it connects to a main hub they'll eat it up.
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>>334668879
being linear is not even a bad thing also you can go to plenty of different areas at the start just kill the dancer early
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>>334669038
wait you can do dancer early?
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>>334668879
What are the other two bosses, all I can think of is taurus, flame queen, and the graveyards boss whos name escapes me at the moment
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>>334669462
>>334669485
Was not aware of this.
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>>334669462
It is a bad thing in this case because one of the things which made DS1 so much fun to replay is the open ended nature of its world design. It made repeated playthroughs fresh since you could take different paths in the game or just come up with new ways to break the intended order, and it made it more enjoyable to do challenge runs/cosplay builds. For example if I wanted to do a Simon Belmont run all I had to do is run over to Blighttown right after finishing the asylum, pick up the whip and then play through the entire game that way. If I want to do the same in Dark Souls 3 I have to finish the high wall of lothric and then do half if not most of Undead Settlement.
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>>334669670
You can fight Taurus Demon, Queelaag, Gargoyles, Sif, Capra Demon or Moonlight Butterfly right after you exit the asylum.
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>>334669485
>>334669708
Yeah, and you can get an NPC to bug out and solo it if you've not done Vordt yet. It's nice being SL15 with the dancer set, and once I get around to killing the tree I'll have the swords as well. They're mentioned in the patch notes so I'm guessing a buff is incoming tomorrow.
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>>334670032
How do you get to the gargoyles first?
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>>334670527
Go to Havel's tower in Undead Burg, open it, go through Darkroot to come out where Andre is and there you go. Alternatively you can go to New Londo, kill Ingward, open the gates to the Valley of Drakes and get to Darkroot that way.
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Honestly I'm nearing the completion of my first playthrough of DS3 and the series feels pretty dead to me. DS1 was better in just about every way, and I took my SL1 character through NG+ just before 3 was released at midnight. Dark Souls 3 is Demon's Souls + Bloodborne but they pieced it together using assets from Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2.

Frankly, the Dark Souls 2 DLC is better than vanilla Dark Souls 3. It's reached the point where I'm going through the motions, it really is becoming the COD of RPGs. I generally ignore anyone who thinks DaS isn't the best anyways. You have to have really shit taste to think that, and if you can get the obvious best game in the franchise right then I can't be expected to give a fuck what the rest of your shit taste entails.
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>>334671094
Dark Souls 2 dlc is awful
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>>334671265
>found the memer

have you even played a souls game or do you just masturbate to the lets plays?
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>>334671094
This fucking "DaS II dlc is good" meme needs to die already.
The whole existence of DaS II makes it bad. It shouldn't be called a DaS. It's a copy that jumps on the souls wagon and fails poorly, like Lords of the Fallen.
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