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Why is it so hated here again?
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Why is it so hated here again?
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Turns out ideology signposting 101 in order to validate reviewer's liberal arts degree doesn't translate well to consumer outlook.
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If I can recall, most people found BSI to be underwhelming in comparison to the first two Bioshock games. To add, there were a lot of cut concepts that never made it to the final product.
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but it isnt really hated

i just started playing it the for the first time and its a generic shooter imo, not terrible nut not very good either
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"I wanted to get into video games to not make video games"

t. Ken Levine
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>>334620412
It's mediocre as fuck, and one of those games where the plot and world would've worked A LOT better if it had not been an FPS. It became clear very early on that devs were just desperate to fit all the BS1 and 2's gameplay elements to Infinite, without really thinking of the context or overall design.

it is all around a huge downgrade from the originals, which were already just downgraded System Shock clones. People only praise this shit for the Disney-princes waifu.
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It was a passable FPS that was hyped as the next best thing. They promised lots of DLC to show how it became the way it did. They didn't.
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The story's loop holes and underwhelming combat, mainly.
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>>334620412
Unfinished game that got critical aklaim because it had black racism and a shitty ending
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>>334620412
It's not really memorable, weaker than the other games in terms of content.

I did like the themes though and Elizabeth is a cutie.
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I liked it more than 2. Liz was a decent enough character for me to have sympathy for. Songbird was crazily intimidating and a great reimagining of the Big Daddy idea. It was exciting for the most part and I liked almost all of the different vigors and guns. It did fall apart at the end but the idea was cool enough to satisfy me. It's just video games. They tried.
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It was an okay game with a shitty story that everyone hyped up because of "muh twist"
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They had the potential to make the game great, the art design and characters were great. It was just fucked up by a shitty writer.

Also, the porn is good and pissed of Levine.
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>>334620586
Or maybe because the game is mechanically simple and obsolete and the story presumtuous and stupid.

>>334620656
>but it isnt really hated
True, loathed is the more apt description.
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Bioshock Infinite's Plot is like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, it's really fun if you don't think alot about it. The reason why I perfer Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is because it was like this since day one, instead of the Bioshock series, which was trying to be thought provoking since game 1. Also, Bioshock takes itself too seriously compared to Jojo.
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It was inferior to Bioshock 1 and 2. It's not a shit game like /v/ would tell you, it's just average.
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Because it's absolute garbage.
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Absurdly linear and cinematic
Meh shooting
Cut concepts and gameplay
Terrible story with poorly done quantum stuff
Pretentious and shallow
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>>334621772
>Or maybe because the game is mechanically simple and obsolete and the story presumtuous and stupid.

There must be a connection then with people praising it and this sentence, can't put my finger on it...
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>>334622330
this. cba to do this thread again but its absolute, complete shit
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Did Levine really design anything pre-Bioshock? Bioshock itself is an inferior copy of System Shock, did he just sign his name on it like Kojima did before Peace Walker?
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>>334623058
Fuck off Fukushima.
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>>334623227
keep calling those supply drops so you can finish off your bullet sponges faster.
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I think this is one of those "the bigger they are, the harder they fall" type of situations. The game is mediocre and average. Its not objectively *bad*... just not great. But it was hyped up as the best fucking thing ever and it didn't even come close to delivering on that.
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pretentious wannabe 2deep4u ending
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>>334623519
>there is always a lighthouse
>there is always another path
>there is always BORING SHOOTING, NO PUZZLES and IDENTICAL POWERS
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>>334622330
>the Elizabeth killing Booker question

>C-constants and variables! It was just too d-deep for you!
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>>334623021
While this is somewhat accurate, previous games were also limited when it comes to map design, due to their labyrinthine structure. It looks better as a blueprint than it felt playing it. You rarely got a sense of place tying together and wounding back upoin itself, it was mostly a keycard-open door affair. Perspective was often stilted and areas felt cut off from one another, like when entering Hydroponics in SS2.
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>>334620412
>2 weapons
>Big arena fight, walk to next area, big arena fight, walk to next area
Literally worse than fucking Bordelands 2, and Bioshock 1/2 are probably my favourite games
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>>334620412
Its fun but very overrated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
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>>334624209
These sort of people call comics graphic novels.
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Bioshock Infinite is a very ambitious game but it just falls short in the categories it tried to be ambitious in.

Like you know how System Shock and Bioshock all occur in a place where something terrible happened and you're just one of maybe 3-4 still living people around? That was a necessity because it's really hard to pull off the atmosphere of a living world. Infinite tried to create a living city but it feels so hollow, watching Elizabeth do her scripted segments feels like going through Pirates of the Carribean at Disneyland. Grand Theft Auto Pedestrians do a better job at convincing the player that they're organic beings.

Everything that made Bioshock and System Shock so well liked is missing, there's a lack of abilities in Infinite, everything feels linear and scripted. It doesn't offer the player the chance to experiment.

I'll give it this the old timey covers of 80s pop was fun to listen to. Sound design was really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAA_zE5a3JQ
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>>334624837
Dont ever talk shit about Pirates of the Caribbean again or i'll have your mother killed
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>>334624837
I never even noticed that the music was real songs. Huh. Where in the game did these songs play?
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Plot is shite, enemy variety is embarrassingly limited, and gameplay is a boring repetitive mess.
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>>334626580
There are songs all over the game that are anachronistic covers of modern songs like Tainted Love on a pub gramophone in the slums, Girls Just Wanna Have Fun as carousel music, that one lady wailing Fortunate Son after you fuck with tears for the first time, etc. Shit's everywhere.
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I had enough fun with it to play through it 2 times, but apparently having fun doesn't make the game good
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>>334620412
I don't hate it, but it's a corridor shooter with nearly no original concepts, an underwhelming and try-hard-to-be-complex plot, and "puzzles" so easy a child could solve them. the only reason to play is to look at Elizabeth and that gets old after about 5 minutes.
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People here hate it because it poked fun at bigots and exposed their stupidity
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In short, a pretty generic experience, mediocre gameplay, full retarded story that gets high mídia praise cause It looks and sounds smart, when It really isnt.

I was in some WoW threads a while ago, and a good agreement we reached is that writing time travel / parallel universes is very Hard and requires careful though of the creator.

Someone claiming that have written "parallel universes cause It makes me fell dumb" shouldnt be allowed to do it.
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