god dammit i fucking love this game
'sokay i guess
I GOT SPURS
>>334564441
Hard to go back to after playing 4.
you'd be an idiot not to
>>334564602
Found the retard
>>334564602
Guaranteed replies
>>334564594
LIKE THE ONE THEY CALL
>>334564602
>>334564607
Hi Mr. Todd
>>334564602
fuck OFF, Todd
>>334564641
Shooting things is more fun in 4.
>>334564794
literally the only pro to that game
>>334564794
Go play some cod and much on some balls fag
>>334564794
Well, that figures since 4 could have been called Call of Fallout: fuck rp and enjoy our shitty dialogue system edition
>>334564794
using intimidation, pausing while lining up your shot, and blowing the heads off of raiders was satisfying.
>>334564594THAT JINGLE JANGLE JINGLE
You know, I tried to measure my Charisma on a Vit-o-matic Vigor Tester once. The machine burst into flames.
Enough shitposting, post couriers and their theme
Caera is a coward and a mousey backstabber that only enjoys the company of machines, fools herself into thinking she's a "good person" but succumbs to some pretty base Wastelander shit all the time in the name of survival.
>>334565848
>kellogg asks to just talk
>blow his fucking head off without saying a word
I do this to every hostile faction that approaches me
>>334564794
>be cowboy shotgun surgeon
>magnums, slugs, and coinshot ammo
>that quick hands + high agi reloading
>crit build
>magnum rounds for run of the mill shit
>slugs for longer range/large targets
>coin shot for OH FUCK I NEED YOU DEAD NOW targets
I dunno man, shotguns in fallout 4 are weak as fuck.
>>334566069
sorry for the quality
this is Felix
He is a mexican
Marked One and the Courier.
Would they get along?
>>334567518
Sure, if they could understand what the hell the other was saying.
Chances are slim that some mailman from the post-apocalyptic mojave would know Ukrainian.
>>334567704
The Courier would have a hard time adapting to the magical realism of Chernobyl, they have no anomalies in the mojave.
Meanwhile, Marked One doesn't seem the type of guy who'd know how to handle robots and lasers.
Those two games have very different versions of radiation, it's really interesting.
>>334566069
Kim Tong-Nan is a anarchist who wanders in search of adventure and is more skilled with words than with bullets. She generally tries to do right by people, but while she's done a lot of good on a small scale, her devotion to freedom above all else may have led to serious long-term consequences for the Mojave.
>>334567847
Could the Courier make it through the Zone?
I love this game also, ISpeedrun it
who would win?
>>334568046
Mr. House's robots.
Why is this even a question?
New Vegas was good in music and storyline but the gameplay sucked, for me anyway
>>334566069
Xenthippe Ray was raised in extreme poverty under draconian technofetishists, and learned to equate technology with power. Between her intelligence, resourcefulness, and utter bullheaded stubbornness, she got out from her humble upbringing and has consistently hoarded tech in a subconscious effort to never feel vulnerable again. Fortunately for her, a hellish experience in the Sierra Madre taught her the importance of letting go, and she subsequently devoted her talents to installing a nigh-omnipotent overlord who understands the value of technology, but has no vested interest in controlling the lives of his citizens.
Reminder that we will never see another Obsidian made Fallout again ;_;
>>334564441
>new vegas was good meme
This wasn't funny the first time.
>>334568046
We talking MK.I House or MK.II?
>>334568046
House is smarter than anyone at the institute, he could probably hack their software
Coursers would get shit on by Securitrons too.
dropped it after talking to that smiley face robot and we plotted to fuck that house guy.
overrated game.
>>334568242
>>334568310
Fucking bullshit.
But I get it, Todd is such a piss baby and Bethesda looks like the big dog that they wouldn't want Obsidian to once again come along and improve their game in every way imaginable.
>>334569184
why did you drop it at that point?
What compelled you to stop?
>>334569348
idk it was 5 months ago. boredom
>>334569336
when zenibeth announced they opened another studio in montreal that shoulda been the indicator that told you its all over. they're preparing to go full ubisoft.
>>334564441
Reminder that New Vegas is the reason that we may never see a good Fallout game again, the series died with 1&2
If Obsidian hadn't gone full retard and had actually tried when making New Vegas
>>334569515
>yearly fallout releases
disgusting
>>334564761
DIDNT HAVE TOO MUCH TO SAY
>>334570196
reminder that you're a faggot
>>334570196
;^)
>>334570732
>>334570772
Don't get mad at me, get mad at Obsidian, they're the ones who made New Vegas
>>334564794
get hitmans animations and you have better shooting then f4
>>334567925
Endgame Courier has access to exoskeletons-but-better, .50 cal sniper rifles, miniguns, energy miniguns and automatic grenade launchers. I'd also say nothing in STALKER is as FUCK OFF YOU'RE DEAD crazy as a Deathclaw. Pseudogiants are too slow.
Early game Courier? Well, a Browning Hi-Power you start with actually hit things you aim at.
>>334570196
>>334570869
NV is the only good modern Fallout though.
>>334572390
Except it's not
>>334572594
Except it is.
>>334572683
Except it is. WAIT!
>>334568310
>I don't think Fallout will go beyond Bethesda again, and certainly not to Obsidian
I wonder how he can be so sure.
>>334573070
He also said that he'd rather work with Fallout lore "at it's source", meaning Bethesda.
I guess there actually was some bad blood between him and Obsidian.
>>334569336
>improve their game in every way imaginable.
Obsidian copied Fallout 3 and smeared shit across it
>>334573656
You mean 'made it better in every possible way'
Started a new playthrough as a roleplay character and holy shit, the atmosphere;
Prison Blues:
>playing as Wasteland ranger group, me and 4 NPC soldiers
>Joe Cobb runs into the bar like normal, nobody bats an eye
>Go down the road, companions randomly fuck up Powder Gangers along the highway
>Guess I'm saving Goodsprings then.
>Head to Primm and take up Sherriff quest.
>Raid NCRCF with night scoped rifle, take out the tower guards from a distance, my squad clears the doorway
>one glitches through the wire mesh, lays waste to insiders somehow
>Open door and shitfight ensues; bloodbath and not a single soldier lost....somehow
>Meyers just sitting there, me walking away from the pool of gore and bodies as a group of concealed-face genocidal, blood hungry rangers stride past me.
>I walk up and ask him to be the sheriff of a small town as a radio wanes Big Iron in the background
>>334564441
Great thread and all however just stopped by to remind everyone that Explosives/Hand-to_Hand hybrid characters are the best way to play the game
If you aren't doing this than you're playing the game wrong
Someone having a New Vegas thread? Without ol' Fantastic here? The hell is wrong with you? I'm the best!
>>334570196
kys
>>334574629
I did hand to hand
it consisted of me running up to people and spamming VATS on their head and me being ridiculously overpowered
it wasn't very fun
>>334564441
Heh. Speaking of hand to hand . That and melee weapons characters had to mebtge most OP without a doubt.
>>334570196
Reminder that New Vegas is the perfect ending to the series.
Reminder that it combines superior Fallout 1 tone with amount of content to rival Fallout 2 and focus on faction warfare (aka the actually good part of Fallout 2 setting).
Reminder to brush your teeth and wash your ears.
Lads I want to play the old Fallouts. Should I play 1 and 2 or just 2?
>>334575278
Play 1 first. It's pretty short, anyway.
>>334575278
I don't think it matters which you play first. I can't think of anything you'd spoil in 1 by playing 2 first, besides some vague references to the player in FO1. You could also play them at the same time
>>334575195
>Reminder that New Vegas is the perfect ending to the series.
Obsidian has no right to end a series they neither created nor own
>Reminder that it combines superior Fallout 1 tone with amount of content to rival Fallout 2 and focus on faction warfare
Absolutely none of that is true. if New Vegas has Fo1's tone then we'd be seeing new built houses and refurbished buildings beyond the strip. But no, according to Obsidian the west is now the same as the east when it comes to rebuilding.
Faction quests and interactions with each other are so few and far apart that there might as well not be any factions at all, the only time factions come in to play is direct interaction with the player, which still is very little.
>>334575795
Tim Cain works in Obsidian nowadays, so does Leo Boyarsky :^)
>seeing new built houses
There's no point in that as Mojave was scarcely hit by nukes (a minor plot point), so there was no widespread destruction to ruin/irradiate the buildings. Why build a new building when you can live in a functioning old one?
>>334575960
>Tim Cain works in Obsidian nowadays, so does Leo Boyarsky
Great, they have a programmer and an artist, but that's not the entire team and neither are they important memebers.
Obsidian didn't create Fallout
>There's no point in that as Mojave was scarcely hit by nukes (a minor plot point), so there was no widespread destruction to ruin/irradiate the buildings.
Normally I'd chalk this up as someone saying they're trolling, but since this is Obsidian we're talking about I know you're legitimately retarded, your brain cannot fathom being wrong so you conveniently don't remember 90% of New Vegas.
>>334576373
>neither are they important memebers
>Tim Cain
>In 1994 he started for a couple of months as the only employee working on a game which would later become the post-apocalyptic CRPG game Fallout.[4] He lay out the basic concept based on the GURPS system and began programming the isometric game engine. He also took over the producer role from Thomas R. Decker who had to supervise multiple other projects at the time.
He literally created Fallout. Add the famous art style to engine and systems (Boyarsky), and you have your cult classic franchise. Oh, and the map designer who made LITERALLY ALL THE FO1 maps (and about a third of FO2 ones), Scott "ScottE" Everets? Yeah, was in Obsidian, worked on New Vegas.
I'd expect nothing but ignorance from a fake "fan" like you, though.
>>334575960
Tim Cain didn't work on New Vegas.
>>334576610
I'd argue Brian Fargo might have been more important than Tim Cain but the rest I can agree with
>>334576632I know, but that wasn't the point.
>>334576943
Is trolling the point?
Most overrated game on /v/ by far.
>>334577098
Well, he's the man who created Fallout, so, by that guy's logic he should be the authority. He now works in Obsidian so, unless he resigns and joins another studio and makes another Fallout, by his logic we have Vegas as the last legit one.
Though I like the idea of ScottE being the literal "creator" of Fallout as he literally created every single map of that game. Poor guy.
>>334576610
>He literally created Fallout.
No he fucking didn't, you quoted it yourself
>"which would later become the post-apocalyptic CRPG game Fallout."
LATER, as in with other people, people with talent.
He didn't even fucking work on New Vegas
New Vegas is fucking garbage, its only saving grace is being the only 3D fallout game that isn't COMPLETE trash.
>calling me a "fake fan" while defending New Vegas
>>334577098
If his point was to troll, then he's long over due for ending it, by now he would just look like a retard if he actually wasn't one.
>>334577249
>calling Tim Cain a talentless hack just to win an argument on /v/
Wow!
>>334577246
>by his logic we have Vegas as the last legit one.
But you already admitted that he never worked on New Vegas, so even if he did create fallout how could New Vegas be "legit" without the supposed creator never having worked on it?
>>334577334
He joined the studio right after it, obviously he was so enamoured with the result he decided he must give them their blessing.
>>334564441
Hm. I have never played the first and second games (call me what you will) but Fallout: New Vegas wasn't all bad, nor was it horrible. If you compare it to Fallout 3 you could say it had more features and all that jazz. If you compare it to Fallout 4 you could say that there were less things. Certain things that weren't in the previous, but fallout 3 had some things that New Vegas didnt and so on and so forth. So for me Fallout: New Vegas is still a great game! Same with fallout 4, though fallout 4 could've done without the hit markers and should have added other things at the beginning of the game it pretty much still brought me hours upon hours of entertainment its the same with the other two previous games.
>>334577249
Honestly, you're coming off pretty retarded yourself, mister agreeable.
Tim Cain built the engine, invented the setting, and was one of the designers of the RPG system for Fallout, which had to be created from scratch after they lost the GURPS license. He not only started the project by himself, he was in charge of it through most of its development.
>>334564602
>>334564794
dumb toddposter
>>334566069
I'm listeing to this, so we'll just say that's the theme.https://soundcloud.com/4qent100/good-day
>tfw uninstall NV to make room for Fallout 4
>Build a new PC and want to play again
>can't be assed to find all dem mods
>>334577387
Don't beat around the bush, New Vegas is only a Fallout game by the title and world it's supposedly set in.
>Tim Cain built the engine, invented the setting, and was one of the designers of the RPG system for Fallout
Except he didn't, he started it and then pretty much stood around saying "yeah great work!" while everyone else made the Fallout we know and love today, if Tim Cain actually created Fallout it would have been a VERY different game and would have never become famous.
You even admit he didn't create fallout, which means this argument is over.
I hope you stop droning some day.
>>334568046
House has a factory and a giant generator in the form of Hoover Dam, assuming you sided with him. He also has the Courier at his side of we go that route since he's the only faction that you don't directly lead that keeps you at his side. Also he's smart as hell and unless the Institute made a synth of the Courier (which would require capturing and interrogating them, anyways), they wouldn't have much of a chance to getting inside the Lucky 38.
The only thing the Institute has is a robot army that has shit laser weapons. Their best asset are the Coursers but they're limited in numbers and equipped with the same shitty Institute gear. They would get anal blasted by upgraded Securitrons. Also they're suffering a power deficit unless you side with them which just about nobody did. The Institute are retarded on principal for redirecting from technology that could essentially make a human immortal so they could work on realistic slave bots because the slavery analogy wouldn't have worked without the synths being literal humans.
>>334578095
>calling Tim Cain a talentless hack just to win an argument on /v/
Wow!
>>334578147
Yeah, nothing the institute have could do anything to the Couriter
>ncr playthrough
>mfw finally get to wipe Khan scum off the face of the earth
fuck those flea ridden savages
On a whim the other day, I bought a sealed collector's Edition of NV from ebay.
Probably a wasted purchase but every few months NV just pulls me back in and different mod combinations keep it fresh for me.
>>334566069
My last courier was Gillette. A fiery wanderer with more wit than wisdom and captivated by the bright lights of Vegas.
>>334575795
Despite the fact a large amount of people who worked on NV, worked on 1 & 2, and as>>334575960 said, Tim Cain works at Obsidian now. Obsidian would have greater right to end the series than Bethesda.
>>334578095
Tell me, beyond 1 & 2, what other games in the series best represent what Fallout is (You've already ruled out New Vegas, so the choices are Tactics, BoS, 3, 4 and Shelter)?
>>334578562
Khans are never gone forever, remember Fallout 1 ending. They are the cockroaches of the fallout universe.
>>334578831
>one person
>large amount
he wasn't even anyone important, he was an artist
>Obsidian would have greater right to end the series than Bethesda.
No, Interplay would
>>334579045
>Tell me, beyond 1 & 2, what other games in the series best represent what Fallout is (You've already ruled out New Vegas, so the choices are Tactics, BoS, 3, 4 and Shelter)?
Beyond 1&2? New Vegas
Like I said before doubt you could read it though, it's the only 3D fallout game that isn't complete garbage, and since BoS Tactics and Shelter are more spinoff games than mainline games, we're left with New Vegas.
New Vegas is at the very least playable without mods
>>334570196
? they tried and they got screwed by Bethesda cause they demanded a release way too earlyI bet they fucking knew it was going to way better than their games if they gave it more time. That is why the textures are reused everywhere.
>>334580343
And that's why New Vegas has a entirely new assets for everything that wasn't present in Fallout 3, right?
No, Obsidian cut corners because they knew they could
>I bet they fucking knew it was going to way better than their games if they gave it more time
Agreed, if Obsidian had more time they could have found some actual talent and maybe even hired the whole interplay team.
>>334580343
>Bethesda cause they demanded a release way too early
I see this everytime but no one ever provides a source.
New Vegas is not fully finished but they were contracted to work on NV. They would have known a release date when they signed on.
>>334580513
>the whole interplay team
ayy lmao
you really are clueless aren't you
>>334564594
THAT JINGLE JANGLE JINGLE
>had 4 gigs of more installed for Nov
>had to send laptop off for repairs
>they wiped the hard drive
>really can't be bothered to reinstall the mods which will take me 3 hours to reinstall
>We're never going to get another game like Fallout New Vegas
It hurts so much...
>>334580526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hqYxXEdw8U&feature=youtu.be&t=1h44m
Apparently this is the source, but what anon was saying about being released too early is taken way out of context.This is the director of Obsidian during Fallout NV btw.
Apparently they had to work with the fallout engine and some of the proper documentation was not present so they struggled a bit. They also needed to make the game mod-friendly so they had difficulty with that. He said because of all these troubles, they realized they had to cut some dialogue to make it in time for the release. That is all he said. He actually complements the engine on how you could create massive RPG worlds.
One of the interesting things he does say is that it is impossible for the Fallout Engine (Gamebryo) not to have glitches as it is made to be very lax on rules of the game for the mods.
>>334581305
>We're never going to get another game like Fallout New Vegas
good
>>334581403
edge
>>334568242
>>334568310
Probably because the game got 84 on Metacritic, while Fallout 3 and 4 got a stunning 93+. I believe Avellone mentioned that since it got 84 and not 85, Obsidian didn't get any bonuses or anything.
It's fucking disgusting actually.
>>334581824
It must be pointed out that one of the biggest complaints about NV that undoubtedly hurt its review scores was how buggy it was on release, and Bethesda were in charge of QA testing. That's a bit fucky right there.
>>334568242
Reminder that since Obsidian isn't attached, chris avellone can work on fallout again
>>334581932
>>334581339
This as well. They had difficulties with the game engine apparently.
>>334566069
Oh fuck, I don't have my courier saved anywhere, new PC, but the theme is eternally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ENzT9k1LRs
>>334582138
Reminder that Avellone thinks that post-postapocalyptic settings are "too boring" and wants to nuke everything again and start from a scratch.
To all people saying Obsidian just needed more time etc:
Come on boys, be real, it is Obsidian. If they had more time they would have just made a bigger unfinished game - they suck at time/resource management.
>>334582438
New Vegas would be perfect if it had more Legion content. That's literally it's only flaw.
>>334582438
South Park game and Neverwinter 2 games were pretty finished.
I fucking love this game too. When is Obsidian making another Fallout game?
>>334582472
If they would have had enough time to put in all the legion content, they would have just tried to put in some other unfinished stuff. They could have never finished their original plan, not within 2 years or even 3 years.
Scripts in the finished game actually hint at them originally planning to have a post-game with the different factions actually taking over New Vegas.
>>334582438
South Park was finished.
Both NWN2 expansions were finished.
Pillars of Eternity was finished.
Dungeon Siege III was finished.
The only games that they've released that are unfinished all had sub 2 year development cycles with the exception of NWN2, which had it's director bail during development and they had to rework the whole project. This is why the first 1/3rd of the game is shit and the remainder is so good.
>>334582438
>bigger version of new vegas
i see no problem with this
>>334578147
>assuming House automatically gets the Courier
>assuming the Institute doesn't get the Sole Survivor
I think House would win too, but that's some pretty autistic raisins.
>>334582885
>South Park was finished.
They were told what to do
>Both NWN2 expansions were finished.
This is probably their only case of not being completely fucking retarded
>Pillars of Eternity was finished.
It's widely considered a terrible game
>Dungeon Siege III was finished.
They were told what to do
>>334583412
Obsidian hatefags are the worst kind of hypocrite. They blame Obsidian fans for making excuses, yet they make even more excuses themselves every time they're proven wrong in some way.
Sorry, in 20 years no one will remember Dragon Age or Fallout 3, but Obisidian's games will remain cult classics forever.
>>334583412
>It's widely considered a terrible game
It's one of their highest rated games on Metacritic both by critics and user reviews. Codex gonna Codex, but their (your?) opinions are fringe.
>They were told what to do
That's not true, even the engine was developed from a scratch. Ironically, it's also one of the least buggy Obs games.
Is there a mod or something for new vegas that lets me skip the beginning. I played the first few hours so many times that I just can't stomach them anymore.
>>334583570
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45739/?
>>334583523
>LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA
okay
>>334583412
>>334583764
Is this how you usually respond when people call you out on your hypocrisy?
>THEY SUCK THEY CAN'T MAKE GAMES, ALL OF THEIR GAMES ARE UNFINISHED
>Well, what about these games that were finished?
>LOL, THOSE DON'T COUNT BECAUSE I SAY SO
>>334583412
>moving the goalposts
>being wrong in general
>le new vegas is good meme
http://kotaku.com/lets-rank-the-fallout-games-best-to-worst-611408965
lol fuckin nerds
>>334583808
>>334584278
>if you don't say what I want to hear, you're moving the goalpost!
>>334584232
>DON'T CALL ME OUT ON MY STUPIDITY
>>334570995
Yeah, nah.
>>334584918
NOV 20 2015 0AM
I can never for the life of me understand why people rank New Vegas over Fallout 3. Fallout 3 had so many Easter Eggs and implied underlying stories. There wasn't a side quest every five feet, but every location had something cool/unique to find in it and experience. I had all the hope for New Vegas - and I don't hate it - but I will never forget being so very disappointed when I went to location after location in New Vegas with nothing to find/discover there.
In Fallout 3 there are various cities and towns with more life than any of the villages in FNV including The strip etc. in Fallout 3 the atmosphere of the towns and villages is actually something that looks post apocalyptic whereas FNV was more western like instead of Post apoc. Generally the whole atmosphere and feeling of Fallout 3 was more Post apoc.
>>334585327
>275 votes for FOBOS
fucking lold
>>334585327
Yep, the world is dead everyone is dead it hasn't passed 200 years since they fell we're playing in 2078
>>334573145
The 'official' story is he was in a weird position at Obsidian. Like a producer, but more in the end of running the company. In this position he wasn't doing what he loved 'writing' so he left.
But I think some shit went down with PoE. What with the whole Grieving Mother and Durance.
>>334586342
I think the more or less common theory is that Feargus wanted to play things safe and that just wasn't creative enough for Avellone. It's still strange, and when you consider things he says, like Bethesda being source of Fallout lore and that he'd much rather work with them, or that he worked on Tranny... It's all pretty damn weird.
>>334564602
who even is this guy?
>>334566069
Dr.Eisenberg, former german scientist dragged into Mojave for some reason.
Rejects lead spewing guns and normal food, sticks to energy weapons and explosives and is now a hardcore chem addict.
Going to do either 1 INT, gun centric tard build or sneaky, silened weapons only smoothtalker next.
>>334586342
>>334573145
Chris was also pretty pissed about some work of his they threw out, I believe
>>334586920
Gotta be appropriately dressed when going to The Strip.
>>334577713
>if you compare it to Fallout 4 you could say that there were less things
NV has more of everything than Fallout 4
From content such as quests, towns, weapons, clothing, ect., to even roleplay mechanics.
>>334584956
>They don't finish games
>Here's a game they finished
>But I think it's shit so it doesn't count!!
No, you really are moving the goal posts.
>>334570196
Reminder that subhuman shit like you is the reson f3 and f4 is posibel.
I wish some one makes a virus that targets normies.
Just cut them off gaming services.
Fucking fps cancer croud.
Dedicate your ölives to down vote all betseda games.
