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>Lets shit on everything related to Chrono Trigger forever: The game

Who thought this was a good idea?
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>too many party members: the game
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the brainchild of everything to do with 12000 bc had full creative control over cross
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>>334519601
>never played Suikoden
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>WAAAAAAH THEY KILLED OFF A BUNCH OF PERSONALITY-LESS CHARACTERS!!!!
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>>334519495
Because it's better than Chrono Trigger
fuck off if you can't understand that.
Both are excellent games though
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>shittty battle system: the game
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Anyone wanna discuss the plot?
Why does Kid have so little porn?
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>>334519841
the plot

Disc 1: Pretty good. Sets up interesting stories with Kid and the fight with Miguel and backstory with Chrono Trigger felt climactic. The transformation into Lynx and mindfuckery associated with that also was entertaining.

Disc 2: A disaster. The burning orphanage was neat though.
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>>334519751
>>334519759
Here's your (you)
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>>334519993
Gonna answer his other question?
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>>334519732
>>334519601
Yeah, but basically all of Cross's are combatants where as Suikoden's aren't all combatants. But just like Suikoden there are lots of just stupidly horrible characters - the majority.
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>>334520092
I wish. There's not a lot of porn for Chrono Cross in general. There's some Harle and Leena and maybe Kid here and there but...not enough.

Maybe if the game ever gets ported to something it will inspire some artists.
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>>334520052
Deal with it kiddo. Literally only Frog had character development and a personality.
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>>334520406
>ignoring Lucca
>ignoring Marle
>ignoring Magus
Maybe you should go replay the game.
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>>334519841
Because she's not even best girl
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When the fuck are those faggots at Square-Enix gonna make Chrono Break?

Actually, nevermind if it's gonna be like FFXV or the FFVII remake and be ARPG bullshit.
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>>334520532
Lucca is the same all game. all you learn is that her mom died. she doesn't grow or change in any way.

Marle doesn't either.

Magus also doesn't. He just decides instead of failing to help/helping to destroy the world he'lls save it because you fucked him up. He's a plot device - barely even a character.
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The biggest problem with the story in Chrono cross was how tonaly different it was from Chrono Trigger. Trigger was a fun breezy Adventure story, like something out of Indiana Jones. Cross on the other hand is a Deep philosophical exploration of the ramifications of time travel. Which makes for a really good story but it just does not jive with the kind of story that Trigger was telling. Chrono Trigger is not a game about dealing with complex consequences to messing around with timelines; it's a game about flying on a pterodactyl to a giant reptile castle and punching a T-Rex in the face.
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Is this the only JRPG where you can recruit a sassy black woman into your party of world saving teenagers?
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>>334519495
Masato Kato thought it was brilliant. This is what happens when one man is given full control and nowhere else is there to reign in his idiotic ideas. What made Trigger so great is it was a compromise between 3 or 4 great game designers. There was push and pull so no one was allowed to go full retard.
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>>334520532

robo has more of a character than either of the girls, magus is just
>muh sister
>muh neverending tragedy
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>>334520740
Worse: it'll be split into multiple 60 dollar pieces. Vidya is ded bud, it's best to pray sequels aren't made for now.
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>>334521057
Magus is just edgy incarnate.
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>>334520924
To be honest, the tie-ins with Trigger felt shoehorned. It felt like Cross should have originally been its own story tied to Radical Dreamers but then they felt they need to connect it with Trigger and it became hamfisted.
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>>334520924

Replayed it last year, it's a great but Trigger's tone shifts substantially around the time Frog gets the Masamune. Then going into Zeal there's all this random existential philosophy everywhere that's nothing like anything anyone said earlier in the game
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>have no idea what Chronopolis actually is
>read about it on the wiki
>"Timecrash" "Frozen Flame" "Mother Brain" and all this other bullshit

Can someone explain me in plain words what the fuck happened?
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>>334521425
No one knows. There's like a 60 page FAQ on GameFAQs trying to make sense of it and even that doesn't succeed.
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What should I play first? Trigger or Cross?
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>>334519732
Nah, you can tell who gets permabenched in Suikoden very fast. Same isn't true for Chrono Cross, where you really want to use everyone.
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>>334521504
It's fucking simple guys. Just look at this pic. It's pretty basic.
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>>334521515
Trigger no question. Cross is just "meh".
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>>334521504
Wasn't Chrono Compendium also originally founded to create a resource for people wanting to figure out what Cross was about?
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>shit on chrono trigger
But the game is all about how those things AREN'T supposed to happen, and you fix them. There's a bad end, and you change it.

If anything, be mad about the "Fall of Guardia" ending if CT on PS1/DS
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>>334521515
Trigger.
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>>334521515
Trigger us referenced heavily in the later parts of Cross.

Play CT, then Radical Dreamers, then Cross
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I never liked the battle theme. It was really anticlimatic.
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>>334521515
Are you retarded?
>>334521425
Play the game. It's really isn't that complex a story. I really hate that whenever theres even a slightly grand or complicated story in a game people shit on it.
It's like you fuckers have never read a book more complex than a fairy tail or some shit.
"gamers" are the worst. Literal bottom of the barrel retards that are laughably easy to cater to and are walking cash cows.
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>>334521680
>Great Wall of Trump of text
Nah
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>>334521705
>>334521763
>>334521805

Didn't even know about Radical Dreamers. Thanks, anons.
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>>334521515
Play Trigger and then read the picture in this post >>334521680 while listening to the Cross soundtrack.
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>>334522059
>being this mad over a video game

damn nigga, calm your autism
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>>334520657
this.
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>>334521680
TL;DR
Lavos got Schala and fucked up the timeline really fucking hard
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Crimson Echoes. 7 years and I'm still mad.
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>>334522192
>while listening to the Cross soundtrack.
Can we all agree that CC has the best fucking music of all time? The very first song is the GOAT.
https://youtu.be/J46RY4PU8a8
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>>334522479
No.
The battle themes are fucking atrocious.
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>TFW when you evolve this fucker Pokemon style into a puffball of destruction
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the ending was boring as hell
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>>334522059
Dude, shut the fuck up.
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>>334522316
It wasn't even lavos, really. The surviving humanity develops time travel and realizes their existence hinged upon a bunch of plucky kids. So they set about solidifying their existence.

It's basically "should we have even saved this world? NO, FUCK THEM"
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>>334522208
No.
All these dumb fucks praise garbage like undertale and the lisa games to high heaven yet shit on Cross.
CC is probably the best sequel story ever devised in a video game. Rather than rehash shit to stay relevant to the original, it's an expansion and deconstruction at the same time.
Also fuck whoever says that there's no character development in CC.
YOU develop because you realize that fucking with time willy-nilly in Trigger has ramifications on the world. I don't know why people miss that, Miguel fucking spells it out for you while he kicks your shit in
Also you have the Radius story which has more substance than most full RPGs nowadays.
>>334522479
The Dragon God theme is amazing as well.
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>>334521515
They're both shit.
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>>334522902
>CC is probably the best sequel story ever devised in a video game

nice joke. What's next, you are going to say that mess known as MGS2 was good?
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Chrono Cross embodies the absolute worst of PS1 era JRPGs
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>>334521680
Xenogears made no sense and didn't have to shit on a good game in the process
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>>334523009
>you are going to say that mess known as MGS2 was good
Not him but why would you bring this up out of no where?
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>>334523009
>Mommm, this plot is to hard for mee. There's too many words!!
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>>334522690
>tfw using this guy is such bullshit on actual hardware because of the glitches
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>mfw I genuinely like Cross more than Trigger
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>>334522083
>>334523242
My post was sarcasm. I thought the reaction pics in the pic I posted would help relay that, but I guess not. CC has a crazy plot from what I remember.
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>>334523251
because it has equally pretentious writing.

>>334523268
figures, MGS2 gets shat on and the MGS2 fanabse accuses the person of being underaged
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>>334521361
That's true, Trigger certainly has its share of philosophical motifs. It was just very careful about balancing things to make sure it doesn't go too far into navel-gazing territory. It would give you some deep musings about fate and determinism, and then counterbalance it by saying "here, fight this fucker with an eye patch on the back of an airplane".
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>>334521712
>If anything, be mad about the "Fall of Guardia" ending if CT on PS1/DS

But that was only put in there after Cross was released as a half-assed way to tie them together. Cross is still to blame. Radius I think it was even talks about Guardia being destroyed.
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>>334522902
Nigga just look at your post a game. You wrote over five lines of text because you are mad at people on a chink imageboard. Like, who the fuck cares about that? Just enjoy your games.
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>>334523556
>pretentious
Oh well if it was too smart for you then that's fine. I found it pretty simple and straight-forward personally.
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>>334522902
I guess the problem is the story CC wanted to tell just wasn't compatible with a large-roster RPG. So this lead to situations where you're literally stumbling over characters (fucking fun-guy) and realizing that none of them matter.
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>>334522902
>it's an expansion and deconstruction at the same time.
"THOSE THINGS YOU WERE DOING THAT WERE TO ALL APPEARANCES INNOCUOUS WERE ACTUALLY HORRIBLE" is an incredibly shitty writing technique when used the way CC does it, especially when the original game never even tried to pretend that it was horrible. It's shit and you're shit for defending it.
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>>334523745
>Oh well if it was too smart for you then that's fine.

there's "too smart" and pretentious.

MGS2 and CC were pretentious
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>>334523931
saving humanity with time travel opened up a huge number of possibilities

Since lavos wasn't completely dead, turns out, the worst were put into play.

Why is this hard to grasp?
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>>334523842
The extra characters are there to make NG+ more interesting.
It gives you more options, especially because there is no leveling system so most, if not all characters are viable to use.
>>334523931
Oh, so you can't do bad things without realizing it?
In trigger you literally fuck with evolution, stop and apocalypse from happening and do shit all over the time-line.
Sure on a microscale basis you're doing good, but in the bigger picture you're fucking shit up. Gaspar alludes to this.
The whole irony is that Chrono and the gang chastise YOU for fucking with time, when technically the whole thing was their fault.
>>334523968
>Make a slightly complex plot
>Get called pretentious by morons
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>>334524154
>Since lavos wasn't completely dead, turns out

Nah that nigga was fully dead by the end of CT. Making him still grasping onto life is some fanfic levels of awful writing.
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>>334523968
Well the funny thing is, if it was really too smart for you then you wouldn't know it.

Anyways I reiterate that I thought it was pretty straightforward and not at all pretentious.
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>>334524273
miguel wasn't chrono, yo.
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>>334519495
I was fine with everything except how Robo goes down. That was so ham-fisted it's disgusting
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>>334524316
that nigga survived millions of years in the core of the earth after flying through untold reaches of space for untold eons.

some plucky kids weren't going to end him
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>>334524154
He dies, but he gets sent to the end of time, just like all other futures that are stopped from happening.
By coincidence Shala also gets sent there after the Zeal incident and he abstracts her, become the gigga nigga time destroyer.
The whole thing is that if Chrono didn't beat lavos, the time line wouldn't be in jeopardy.
He chose to save the planet, not the universe; but you can't really blame the Trigger cast because there was no way they could have known what would happen.
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>>334524273
>>Make a slightly complex plot

that shit was not slightly complex at all. It was a clusterfuck. For both games (the long ass speeches in CC and the retarded Arsenal Gear segment in MGS2)
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>>334524316
>still clinging to life

No.

The civilizations chrono and friends saved by destroying lavos, learned of lavos and fucked with time to the point where they could get a hold of him.

TURNS OUT THAT WAS A BAD IDEA
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>>334524481
It's easy to survive forever when you have a protective turtle shell on. They killed his inner core, his heart parts, his true essence.
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>>334524384
Rewatch/play the Miguel scene. Chrono chastises you for fucking the time line.
Also the music that plays during the whole thing is spot on
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>>334524681
>Chrono chastises you for fucking the time line.

as one of the kids
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>>334524542
Please never attempt reading literature then. Your poor brain might melt
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>>334524331
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>>334524542
>Arsenal Gear
>clusterfuck
It was literally just lolsorandom codec convos ending with the bad guy telling you his plans. Then snake says "dont worry about it and follow yourself yo".

How dumb were you to play thru that section and go "whoa this is really confusing!"
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>>334524615
Literally Zeal 2.0
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>>334524767
The kids are the Trigger gang
>>334524875
Razzly a cute
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>>334524875
>3'7"
>11lbs
shes like a living fleshlight
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>>334524901
Now that is a valid criticism of the chrono cross story.

Good job.
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>>334524802
I have, in school when I was forced to and got good grades on the assignments (B's).

but there is some writing that has "head up their own ass" tier of writing.

and sometimes I don't listen to characters/people if they are morons, evil, or people I don't like.

For example, because of all the random nonsense pic said, I did not pay attention to him.

>>334524882
>It was literally just lolsorandom codec convos ending with the bad guy telling you his plans
and yet the MGS2 fanbse chastises people if they do not pay attention to the guy making the lolsorandom codec convos
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>>334524882
It was more like "whoa, this is really fucking stupid and clearly the intent was for me to be all confused and shit."
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Did the DS port of Chrono Trigger have touch controls? I'm going on a business trip and want to play something on my phone, and since I have a Galaxy Note, DS touch stuff is pretty manageable for me.
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Trigger is such a fucking shit game with shit characters.

Almost all of them are irrelevant to the overall story.
Lucca, Marle, and Ayla actually have almost zero interaction with the overall story (Lavos, Day of Judgement, Zeal, Reptites, etc.) Same with Crono and Robo. Frog is only slightly more important, but still an overall bystander.

Magus, even when he's not on screen or in the party, is pushing the whole plot towards its finale.

How do you kids not understand this concept? Let me spell it out: "plot relevance" is completely independent from "on-screen and playable."
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>>334525085
>i read "literature" in school and got B's

hahahah

HAHAHAHA
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>>334525085
>B's
>Good grades
>and sometimes I don't listen to characters/people if they are morons, evil, or people I don't like.
So you really are retarded. Quit while you're ahead anon
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>>334525154
I don't recall. Maybe the menu stuff?
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>>334525085
>this guy again
lol every single time mgs2 is brought up

>>334525153
You didn't find the silly codec convos amusing? That's pretty shit taste tbqh.
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>>334525154

in battle commands can be selected with the touch screen, otherwise no
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>>334525154
I think the battle system did.
Movement is definitely with the buttons though.
Get an ipega controller. Also play the SNES version if this is your first time playing Trigger.
Use Retroarch
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>>334525239
>>334525237
... did you guys even go to school? B's are still a good grade.

I can understand that reaction if I said D's, but not for B's.

>>334525320
>lol every single time mgs2 is brought up
and you are crazy thinking it's one guy who thinks Arsenal Gear sucked
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>>334525239
>>Bs
>>good grades
Wanna know how I'm sure you're in high school, or that you go to a non-top-ten shitty state school, while studying Humanities?
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>>334525320
If you liked the MGS2 codecs funny, this comic will cause you to laugh so hard you DIE!!
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>>334525443
high school
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>>334525432
>Getting Bs
>In fucking HS
Nigga I skipped school every fucking day to play vidya and still made honors every year
anon pls, you're making yourself look even worse
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>>334525531
stellar reading comprehension. Those modern american high school Bs were certainly well earned.
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>>334525443

if you don't make 300k a year get the fuck out of this thread
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>>334525531 here

I should clarify that I graduated high school many years ago

>>334525572
>Nigga I skipped school every fucking day to play vidya and still made honors every year
I call bullshit
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>>334525524
Stop being retarded.
You can't take randomness out of context and then say it's not funny
Go read up on Aristotle's definition of humor before you try to criticize comedy.
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>>334525634
If your yearly income is measurable you're nothing but a wageslave and, therefore, don't have time sufficient to give intelligent input on anything.
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>>334525443
Nevermind, just read that he said he got Bs in Literature in High School.

What a fucking brainlet. If you honestly have less than 4.2, and a 2250 SAT, you should just kill yourself, and that's with me being generous.
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>>334525706

words of a jobless basement dweller if i ever read them
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>>334525792
or a millionaire
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>>334525734
Who gives a fuck about the SAT?
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>>334525432
Dude I know you show up every time mgs2 is mentioned because there's always one guy who acts indignant over skipping all of the colonel's dialogue. You have a creepy obsession over this game my man.

>>334525524
>all random humor is the same
>implying the mgs2 convos were supposed to be funny
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>>334525878
Anyone that got higher than 2350.
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>>334525695
>defending shit sense of humor with fucking aristotle

Now this is comedy
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>>334525952
Go fuck yourself you literal buffoon.
I would say COD is more your speed but you might call the plot "pretentious"
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>>334525901
>Dude I know you show up every time mgs2 is mentioned because there's always one guy who acts indignant over skipping all of the colonel's dialogue.

and you are paranoid as fuck
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>>334526059
18-year-old detected
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Is this the most atmospheric music in vidya?
http://youtu.be/Gt_XTmUtjmw
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>>334526061
>still denying it
Be honest. How much of your life is dedicated to you "not liking game"?
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>>334526248
>still being paranoid
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>>334524875
It always pissed me off how Trigger gave us interesting new monster types like those kiwalas and stuff then Cross comes along and shits all over it and tosses them out and just gives us Generic Fantasy 101 creatures like dwarves, faeries, and mermaids that were never even hinted to exist in Trigger.
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This is still the coolest optional boss in an RPG
http://youtu.be/Nt8R3EhWJ1c
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>>334526337
Tell me again why you skipped colonel's codec convos? Because it hurt your brain?
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>>334523690

Yes Radius mentions Poore causing the fall of Guardia in trying to grasp Viper's motives for siding with Lynx.
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>>334526483
El Nido is comprised of islands from the distant future in different dimensions.
It didn't exist during the events of Trigger
Please pay attention next time. You people have the reading comprehension of rodents Jesus
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>>334526585
>Tell me again why you skipped colonel's codec convos?

because of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul8j9I90ueM

I skipped the last one
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>>334523690
Dalton hops in a leftover time portal to triggers present and uses Porre to invade Guardia and probably kill Chrono.
I'm guessing Chrono stops training or something because Dalton was a pussy in Trigger
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>>334521285
It probably wouldn't get the hate it does now if it did that too. It would get judged as it's own game more often and it wouldn't have the reputation of being the game that fucked everything up from Trigger.
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>>334526709
>he actually complains about dialogue he didn't even listen to
You really add a lot to video game shitposting my man. Kudos to you.
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>>334526709
>An AI is fucked up because of a Virus
>Somehow this is completely random and out of context
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>>334526496

the fuck is this nigger saying
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>>334526929
>>334526943
why bother listening to the rest of his dialogue if he is an AI corrupted by the virus?
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The game does ruin everything about Chrono trigger and make it pointless which is the worst thing you can do in a sequel.

Should have just been a new story completely unrelated but they couldn't help themselves.

Anyone who thinks this did anything but kill chrono trigger youre crazy. It ruins the game on replays
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>>334527135
Ok you need to kill yourself jesus
>>334527102
Yeah it takes a bit of time to figure out what the fuck he's talking about it.
Using the elemental attacks as answers is cool as fuck
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I liked it for what it was. Fantastic soundtrack and gorgeous color palettes all around.
Disk 2 is an undefendable trainwreck though
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>>334527102
>the fuck is this nigger saying

it''s riddles and you have to hit him with the element that corresponds to his riddle.

what the game doesn't tell you is that the answer to the riddle is the order you need to cast magic to use the Chrono Cross item in the final battle
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>>334527135
Blah blah blah. I've already seen you lay this bait several times in the past year. Which is astounding with how little I come on /v/ lately.

Why don't you adopt a trip or something at this point? Really take this identity of yours to the next logical step?
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>>334527309

much of the setting is related to ct in some way though
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>>334526657
So you're saying human-like fairies existed with the reptites? That makes no sense. Any humanoid mammal lifeform would've gone extinct in that dimension millions of years ago.
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>I've already seen you lay this bait several times in the past year.

>MGS2fags think it's just one guy
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>>334527626
>he gets angry at dialogue he didn't even listen to
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>>334527513
Yes
Dwarfs and fairies are very intact with the planet in CC, as are the reptites
They co-exist nicely, unlike humans and reptites because humans evolved using Lavos
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>>334519495
It unironically was one of my favorite games of the gen.
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>>334527309
Really I don't see how a sequel could ruin the original with anything. When CT was made none of the sequels existed. It also wasn't set up for sequels. So it's very much standalone whether something is added on after the fact or not.

Is it that it's some precious childhood memory that you've made more important than it is?
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>>334528003
>Want to play CT again after playing CC
>Characters all look like idiots who celebrate thinking they've saved the world when in reality they've done nothing. Causing the suffering and deaths of many more people

Its a fucking character assassination
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>>334528003
>Really I don't see how a sequel could ruin the original with anything.
The game went out of its way to be an edgy fanfic sequel you fucking idiot.
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>>334528193
Crono did nothing wrong! All he did was open a path so humanity could have a future. It was inevitable humans fuck themselves over eventually anyway. He just gave people a few thousand more years of good times before the end.
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>>334528193
>>334528198
Are you guys just not very smart or what?

Help me understand your childish anger. So when CT was made nothing else existed. When you play CT it has absolutely nothing to do with any sequels. The original game is the same game it always was.

Ok now that we've established that can you try and explain how the original is ruined?
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>>334528351
You can never look at the characters the same way again after knowing what happens to them later.
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>>334528351
Im not saying CT is a bad game. Im saying with the knowledge of CC in your head CT there is no joy in playing CT because everything you are doing is for naught. You play a video game to be victorious and save the day thats what drives you. If you know the characters ultimately fail and their story means nothing whats the point?
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>>334526059
Achievement unlocked: Babby's first philosophy class in community college
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>>334528351
>Are you guys just not very smart or what?
No, that would be you for being unable to see why a shitty game with bad, hamfisted environmental messages, that deliberately went out of its way to kill the original game's cast in retarded ways, that had a ridiculous NGE-esque convoluted plot, and in general was trying(and failing) to be more mature than CT was a bad sequel to CT.

I don't even think that CT is the best game of all time or anything, I just think CC is shit.
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>>334528515
>>334528523
I think you guys are just taking the wrong philosophy to this whole sequel business.

When CT was made it was standalone. This means you can easily just ignore CC since it's just added on after the fact. What I'm trying to say is: even if CC's story was really good to you it would still be fanfiction.
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>>334519841
>kid
>porn

you answered your own question, pedo.
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>>334528523
They never ultimately fail. They accomplished their goal and saved the planet from dying in 1999.
They succeeded and quite honestly did you ever thing fucking with time doesn't have any ramifications? Do you also truly believe that no major threat would happen again? Fuck even our world we keep getting one threat after the other and theirs is a world filled with monsters and shit
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>>334529071
But they did fail. They completely abandoned Schala to be mind raped by lavos for millenia to become the time devourer.

They left someone suffering for essentially eternity because lol we are dumbasses and completely forgot about her.
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>>334523842
Getting their Lvl. 7 techs and getting backstory on a lot of the characters was pretty satisfying.
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>>334529261
They didn't know that happened to her and quite frankly they thought Kid was the original Schala so why look for someone they already have in their care?
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>>334529431
Magus knew. Why didnt he do anything?

Then what do Chrono and Marle get for their trouble of saving the world? Die 5 years later in a war.
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>>334519993
>>334519495
what has the better story, chrono cross or trigger?
the consensus seems trigger
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>>334529854
Cross loses by default for being needlessly complicated.
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>>334529854
Well they're video games so they both start as bad and can only get worse.

Which one's shorter?
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>>334529653
Magus got Amnesia and became Guile.

Fuck with time bad shit can happen to you.
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>>334530050
>Magus just forgets

And thats why Cross is a giant piece of shit
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>>334530113
He got amnesia fighting the devourer tho.
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>>334530156
Why didnt the Devourer just give Kid and Serge amnesia too and make their asses forget about him.

Oh I know why because the amnesia was a stupid cop out, fuck Cross
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>>334519495
Well you see, the anger you're feeling is pretty natural. You're what we call "the lowest common denominator." People like you, this is most people by the way, have a general fear of the unknown and the unexpected.

Now Cross is a sequel to an established game with an established story and setting. So you had an established expectancy with regards to the game's plot among other things.

Now when these things ended up being different compared to what you were used to and had come to expect you experienced what I like to call "Bitter Baby Bitch Tears".

Now there's no cure for BBBT unfortunately. But hopefully, by being aware of the problem, you can learn to live WITH it, rather than AGAINST it.

Cheers. :)
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>>334529932
My thoughts on chrono trigger is that its not an intrinsically interesting story with robust characters, its more of a "fun" story, as this anon mentions >>334520924

I have played trigger but not cross, does cross just not deliver on the deep questions and making you think about time travel ramifications"?
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I remember when this came out. I figured it would continue like the FF series somewhat in name/themes so I treated it like a seperate entry or new game. Tying it into Trigger was odd though.

I enjoyed it and the OST was fantastic. Comparing both CT wins but CC was a good game too.

Janice was my favorite grill.
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>>334530843
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>>334529653
Technically it never said they were dead, just their kid ghosts only existed in one dimension. They could be fine in the other.
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>>334519495
I enjoyed it better than Trigger
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>>334530651
Ok
>>334530712
All Cross does is say robots dont deserve humanity and timelines are bad
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>>334529854
Trigger is pretty cliche and one-note, nothing really to write home to about at all. Characters are pretty one-dimensional and underdeveloped

Cross' story is pretty alienating, but at least I can respect it for trying something different
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>well known fact a princess' kiss can restore someone to their original form
>Marle is princess
>she never even tried to kiss Frog to cure him
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>>334531379
>be a regular knight
>be a badass frog knight
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>>334519495
The game was great for what it's worth, but there was
-way too much focus on the elemental aspects. If you didn't use the elements right on the last boss, you wouldn't get the "true" ending
-story was full of literally forgetable characters that you can just never meet base around 1 event
-the cast felt dry, and the number of characters didn't help
-The tie-in to Chrono Trigger felt weak, forced and an afterthought.

I'm almost glad there's no sequel, since Square Enix would just dig up the corpse and just fuck it like they did with FF.
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>>334519993
Absolutely this. Disc 2 and all the fucking dragons are so stupid and shitty. It's not relevant to Serge's character and the realized they needed to connect it to CT somehow so they forced in some random bullshit in the third act.
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>>334525932
Congrats you're either a good guesser or took algebra 2 in high school.
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>>334531379
Wanting Marle to cuck Chrono
Fuck off you degenerate BBC lover
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>that secret ending where you go into the mansion
>lots of npcs that are actually people that developed the game
>get to talk to them and learn about their role
>the secret guy that will let you rename almost all the characters for your next playthrough

My friend and I put juvenile stuff in for names, but holy hell was it funny to run into them next game.
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>>334532186
What guy? I never heard about this.
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>>334530305
Serge is the Chrono Trigger and was armed with the Chrono Cross at the time. Magus just had his own abilities
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>>334531994
Crono should only love Lucca. Marle a shit
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>>334532359
Forgot to mention if Serge doesn't have the Chrono Cross when he fights the devourer just like Magus you lose as the devourer will win anyway
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>Marle a shit
Don't be like that anon.
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>>334530843

I want to fuck Janice and Leena
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>>334533249
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You can use CC threads as a litmus test to see how retarded /v/ is.
Love it
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>>334530843
>>334530914
>>334533249
Janicebros are truly best bros. Shame there's very little decent art of her.
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>>334533608
Real shame I liked her gimmick as a monster tamer.
Still upset that after you beat her you can't do the fight ever again
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>>334519993

>Miguel

What a fucking inspired name.

Seriously? Miguel?

Tell me about the fights with Ron and Chris
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>there are people in this thread right now who prefer the ds translation over the snes
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>>334533820
Are you really all that upset that some boss in a game doesn't have an elaborate edgelord name?
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>>334525223
I assume this is bait, but I will respond anyway.

Lucca is a technological genius whose knowledge and skills are constantly progressing the story, not the least of which is inventing the device that allows you to control the time hates.

Marle is a direct descendant of Schala and that connection (especially the pendant that has been passed down to her) is the catalyst that kicks off the whole story (in connection with, you guessed it, one of Lucca's inventions).

And you can't say that Crono is inconsequntial to the plot when he is the only one with the means and knowledge to save the world. The fact that he is just a random teenager is the whole point; he undertakes the mission to stop Lavos not because he is some destined hero foretold in a prophecy, but because the responsibility was placed in his lap and he is going to see it through. He could just ignore it, as he will be dead long before Lagos rises, but he doesn't because he stumbled across the power to do something and with great power comes great responsibility.
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>>334519601
It's no Suikoden, I'll tell you that.
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>>334534410
>He could just ignore it, as he will be dead long before Lagos rises
And he fucked the timeline as a result
Fucking tryhards I swear
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>>334532338

You can't actually 'see' him but he's by a bookshelf, iirc.
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The only good new character in CC besides Leena was General Viper. That guy was a cool badass. It's too bad he was so under-utilized. You would think having the leader of the island chain on your side would get you some sweet bonuses.
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