Name one subscription based MMO besides WoW that isn't completely dead yet.
You can't.
>subscription based
>WoW is free
woops
>>334495317
Final Fantasy XIV and...
Uh...
I think that's it.
>>334495317
I don't play it but FFXIV seems to be doing pretty well.
>>334495503
>>334495553
OP said games that aren't completely dead, guys.
EvE online has a sub fee but you can buy gametime with in-game money
TOR
>>334495673
How many subs do you need to not be completely dead?
>>334495774
At least as many as WoW had at its peak
Runescape and FFXIV.
PS+
>>334495774
Square doesn't release its sub numbers so there's no way to tell how many subs they have. Probably less than 200k though. Dead ass game.
Tera, oh wait...
Wildstar...wait a minute
ESO...damn that went F2P too
>>334495317
Runescape
>>334495826
I don't know man FFXI had 500k at its peak and it was widely successful and is still sub only today.
>>334495929
It's true we don't know FFXIV numbers but it's safe to assume it's doing well if it hasn't gone F2P or merged servers after being on the market for 3 years now.
>>334495317
Dragon Quest XI
Runescape
>>334496104
X even, not XI.
>>334496094
>it's safe to assume it's doing well if it hasn't gone F2P
Or they're keeping it on life support so they don't look like bumpkins for rebooting it.
>>334496226
What? It's going to do be shutdown soon. PS2 and Xbox 360 already had their shit shutdown.
>>334496226
If they really were on life support they wouldn't have released an expansion and already canned the upcoming one
>>334495317
FFXI
>>334495317
I don't know if I can without a protip.
>>334496326
That's FFXI, not FFXIV.
>>334496363
Those """"""""""""expansions""""""""""""" quote quote quote end quotes end quotes end fucking quotes have about as much content as a teeny-tiny patch. You're buying a patch.
A handful of players return for a month or two for the patch and promptly unsub when they breeze through the whole thing in a week. The same thing that's been going on since ARR was released.
>>334496723
80+ hours of Heavensward MSQ is a teeny tiny patch?
Isn't Lineage II still sub only in Korea or something?
>>334496834
>80+ hours
In what universe?
>>334497060
The non poopsocking universe. Even people who no lifed the expansion on release took 60+ hours to reach the final main story quest and that's by skipping cutscenes and nonstop running instant queue dungeons.
Runescape
>>334497272
First of all I beat ARR in far less than 60 hours. I even leveled a new class in the process 120 hours to beat ARR and an expansion is a fucking joke.
Nexus:TK still has like 300 players
Fuckin' going strong
>>334497519
Either you're a liar or you literally no lifed the game and have no concept of time because of how addicted you are to video games.
Feel free to post your lodestone so we can check out your MSQ achievement dates.
>>334497773
I would but 4channers have a bad habit of trying to stalk me whenever I post personal info.
>>334497272
>people who are better than me must defecate into a sock out of sheer dedication to accomplish what they do
>ahh, that makes me feel better about being a casual shitter
truly
ebic
>>334497985
Then post achievement dates in a screenshot, no need to reveal your name and shit you retard.
>>334495317
Runescape
Final Fantasy XIV
EVE OnlinePlanetside 2
>>334495317
WoW isn't fucking dead u stupid legacy server faggot.
>>334498056
1-60 in less than 120 hours is not possible unless you were on for lots of hours a day and you heavily rushed to the level cap by FATE grinding and skipping everything.
>>334498732
>unless you were on for lots of hours
He explicitly stated 120 hours, genius
>>334498732
basically, poopsocking.
>>334495774
8-10 mil minimum
>>334498232
The shit isn't even letting me search the lodestone even when logged in. Dead ass game.
>>334498841
So every MMO ever created besides WoW was dead on arrival and at the end of their lifespan.
>>334495317
>wow
>dead mmo
>6mil people
K.
>>334498924
Get better internet rasheed
>>334499158
It gives me an error. Dead game.
>>334499151
>>6mil people
>subscription based MMOs
>>334499023
Wow was nearing a 100mil at one point, now it's 60 mil mate.
His standards are not unreasonable
>>334499023
Yes, you are now just getting this? There is a single number one spot and everything else is dead in comparison. If you aren't number 1 you might as well give up, that's how gamers always think about shit.
>every fighting game but SF is dead
>every MMO but WoW is dead
>etc etc
If you want a serious answer, I believe the top 3 MMO's by sub/user amount is WOW, FFXIV, TOR
>>334499213
Well since you won't give out your character name and server then you didn't complete anything you dumb ass jit.
>>334499258
>f2p MMO's
I will never understand the level of retardation you must have to prefer to pay more which is all F2P is. Instead of paying a lump sum a month you end up paying 3 to 4 times that in unlocks and other dlc type shit
>>334499387
Well it's not like I can show you what you want if the website won't let me.
>>334499282
anon said subs, not accounts created.
>>334495317
SWTOR
>>334499282
LOL COLOSSAL LIAR
If only a brief google search would prove you wrong. If only.
>>334495317
EVE Online?
>>334499470
so feel free to leave your character name and server so I can look it up when the piece of shit website starts to work.
>>334495317
EVE
Are you retarded?
>name one sub based MMO that isn't dead
>besides WoW
???
WoW is as dead as the rest of them.
>>334499640
Nope. I don't post my personal info here because you guys can't be trusted with it. Tell Yoshi No-Talent to fix his website.
EVE is in no way lively, what the fuck.
>>334499427
First of all, you're implying all F2P MMOs are pay to win.
Second of all, I don't play MMOs, they're all utter shit, and the fact that lowlifes actually willingly pay monthly subscription fees to play them makes my stomach churn.
>>334499753
are you literally that one guy who uses his real first and last name as their character name?
>>334499790
>moving goalposts the post
>>334499803
>First of all, you're implying all F2P MMOs are pay to win.
They are, there is no debate to this. If you can find me a F2P mmo with no cash shop and no boosts or anything of the sort ot buy, I will show you a green dog.
>>334499863
No.
Anyway, now that we're done with that strawman let's get back to how XIV is dead as shit and you have no evidence to prove otherwise.
>>334499993
You first
>>334499925
That's not how that meme works m8
Also
>name a sub MMO that isn't dead
>names one not even in the top 5
>>334495317
I think FF14 is the only one honestly. A subscription is mandatory to play, legacy servers still have queues at prime time hours, and multiple other servers still have character creation lockouts because of player congestion.
>>334500054
Google it faggot I don't have to show shit
>>334500195
>and multiple other servers still have character creation lockouts because of player congestion.
Square locked them to make them look full. You took it hook line and sinker.
>>334500250
okay
>>334499741
No it's Fucking not you stupid uneducated faggot.
KNOW WHATS DEAD? YOURE STUPID FUCKING LEGACY SERVERS LMFFAO
Go die u faggot,u degrade wow cause u can't afford it. You should fucking die. Wow is STILL,THE,TOP,PLAYED,MMO
>>334500360
>according to square's marketing department
>>334500285
I don't know man, my server (Leviathan) is pretty full. I see tons of new people questing and talking in the novice network.
>>334500489
>horrible retention rate
And you never see them again.
>>334500360
There is a Japanese guy who looks up stats on their armory equivalent to see how many players are on and the actual number of active players is ~500k
>>334500421
you mean
>according to a retard who doesn't know how to read
>>334500558
okay mr downer
>>334500627
Oh, sorry. I meant "according to kotaku."
>>334495317
ESO
Mortal
>>334500624
The number was actually at 710k during early Janurary according to Luckybancho server parses.
Whether the number has gone up or down idk.
>>334500624
>>334500997
Those numbers aren't reliable. Try 200k.
![parade-5-hdn[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QTjCLvL.jpg "parade-5-hdn[1].jpg")
>>334499934
>Find me a F2P MMO that doesnt earny money
You sound retarded
>>334501038
It's all we have to go since those numbers are pulled from the official Lodestone page.
What makes you so sure the game has 200k?
>>334501224
Because it's an abysmal pile of dogshit?
>>334501317
Great opinion, but what does that have to do with your number?
>>334501393
It's a good estimate.
>>334500415
And Jersey Shore made it past season 1. Your top played mmo is prime garbage, amigo.
>>334501469
Not as good as data retrieved from the game's official server database
>>334501705
Considering most of those are bots and the person who does the surveys never tells anyone the specific requirements for his estimates my guess is just as good as his.
200k
>>334501602
>Poorfag says opinion
>thinks it matters
>>334495774
Reality, only about 10k. $15X 10000 people is a lot of revenue bimonthly and that's not even counting money that could be made from expansion sales, cash shop items, and more.
But in /v/'s warped mind, they see anything as less than WoW's peak subscriber count as a failure.
>>334501885
>people who want to play the best version of the game
Clearly they're just too poor to afford the watered down garbage of today's WoW.
>>334501838
Except the guy does specifically mention in his server parses that he only counts people who played within a small timeframe, have a level 20 or over class, and have at least earned their airship license achievement. Something that bots and gold farmers never ever get because it's a waste of time to do the MSQ when they can just teleporthack and grind.
>>334499934
Runescape
>>334502232
Chinabots all have mounts, airship licences,and are above level 20 because about a million chinabots are legacy. The numbers aren't trustworthy and neither is square.
>>334502759
most chinabots never make it past 20 and if they do they powerleveled and never bothered to get a mount or airship license because what's the fucking point if you're going to get banned for botting/teleporthacking anyways.
>>334502964
>most chinabots never make it past 20
The legacy chinabots (all of which were transferred over to ARR) were all over 20. There was no teleport hack in 1.0. Plus square doesn't ban them.
>>334503143
they do ban them though, every week they do a sweep of every server.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/c2f9821e19322f3e95d97141674d4039fdad6534
>>334503294
>hook line and sinker
>>334503294
Didn't someone add up all the numbers from those reports and it came out to be a retardedly high number that makes no sense?
>>334495553
It is doing pretty well considering that it used to be such a damn flop back in the 1.0 days
Tf2
>>334503741
soon we can go back to the good old days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKMeNjkqalc
>>334495673
>>334495317
>Play FF14
>Been a while since last patch
>STILL have to wait in queue to log in every time
>I'm not even on one of the most populated servers
There's no chance FF14's sub numbers are low or even in decline.
>>334503709
>someone actually fact-checked XIV
Fucking shit it's about time.
>>334504494
>I have to wait, therefor it must be popular
You know the game has cross-server queues, right? And that you're retarded?
WoW is deader than FF14 in North America.
>>334495710
good joke
>>334495317
EVE online
>>334505706
Game now has a que and shows how many people are before you in dungeon ques. I usually see 40 people ahead of me 20 if I am a healer
>>334507995
So, next to nobody.
>>334502349
>>334498398
>>334496145
>>334496026
>>334497443
>memescape
>60k currently online
>not dead
it used to be 350k online at a time
>>334500415
8/8 b8 m8
your impersonation of a WoWcuck is spot-on
>hurr people only play private because dey is poor and dont wanna pay 15 a month
>vanilla sucked it didn't even have raid finder
>omg leveling was so hard in vanilla NO FUN
>haha blizzard totally pwned nostalrius, serves those freeloading bums right for stealing daddy blizzards game
>take off the rose-tinted glasses nostalgiafags
>vanilla sucked, I started playing after Cata so I know
>omg 40 man raids were such a hassle, so glad blizz made everything a face roll EZ mode for casuals such as myself
>how the fuck do you expect to level without heirlooms
>>334500415
This is literally you.
10/10 b8
>>334501110
Things can appear strange when you don't read an entire quote chain, anon.
>>334509967
>>334510747
>>334510640
>MMM YUMMY YUMMY SHIT IN MUH TUMMY
