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How do you even respond to piratefags who use this argument?
Don't argue in the first place? Are you the dev's marketer? Are you getting a handjob under the desk by converting pirates into a sale?
No?
Who cares
>>334453398
why people care so much if a complete strange didn't buy your favorite 11/10 game rated by ign with game awards?
>>334453398
I can't see how anyone would like a videogame.
>>334453398
I typically kill myself after being demolished and humiliated like the gigantic faggot I truly am
>>334453398
You can't, piratefags are so removed from reality that they spin any opposition the way they see fit.
I pirate shit and I don't spew that bullshit. If I get stuff for free, Damn right I'm not paying for it later.
>>334453398
New episode aired already, neat.
>>334453505
>devs meddling in piracy prevention
learn2supply chain fucking retard
>>334453398
"Muh intellectual property, it cames out of one of my chattel's brains so I owns it!"
How do you respond to corporations that use this argument?
Holy shit i need to watch this show. theres not even lewd shit on the picture and my dick is already diamonds
>>334453398
Agree with them.Just waiting on GMG to stop sucking dick so I can buy DS3
>>334453842
How do you not?
>>334453398
>made by edgelaedge dudes
TRASH BIN TRASH BIN
>>334453398
they never buy it and they know it.
that being said, pirating is the only thing keeping the kikes in line when it comes to games and shit.
I honestly dont know what should be done about this.
>>334453849
Do you have a sharp teeth fetish?
>>334453521
>11/10 game rated by ign with game awards
This is a weak argument, that is not always the case. Plenty of small developers who make lesser known games suffer because of piracy.
>>334454053
YES
>>334454137
Some find a way
http://gamasutra.com/blogs/DavidDAngelo/20160414/270282/Feat_Unlocked_One_Million_Copies_of_Shovel_Knight_Sold.php
What leads to a game like Shovel Knight being able to sell 1 mil despite piracy while other indie games collapse?
JUSTICE
>>334453398
>>334453943
But they also made Turning Girls, Inferno Cop, and LWA.
How can you hate TRIGGER?
>>334454367
What the fuck is Inferno Cop doing there
This anime is surprisingly comfy for a TRIGGER thing
>>334454053
Do you not?
>>334453398
I might consider a buy if you suck my dick. I want you to swallow.
>>334454463
That's not IC. That's the CHIEF.
>>334454265
Then you should probably watch Akuma no Riddle immediately
>>334454463
That's chief OVER JUSTICE. He's Inferno Cop's boss.
stay ass ravaged
>>334454716
MY FUCKING DICK
>>334453505
But what if I am getting a handjob for every hundred replies I get to those kinds of statements?
>>334454964
Now I really want to know what the original was supposed to be about.
>>334453398
This happened not too long ago.
>Everyone on /v/ is raving about Stardew.
>Oh look, no demo, how do I know if I'd like it?
>/v/ has steered me wrong before.
>Pirated The Witness soon after it came out because I liked Braid.
>Beat The Witness and saved myself from paying for a $40 game largely consisting of iPhone line puzzles and pointless hipster bullshit.
>So I pirate Stardew.
>Realize I like it.
>Buy it.
>Over 100 hours played
>4 of it's achievements are now my rarest achievements because much like a handful of smash players, I play casual games for babies on a level most can't seem to reach.
>>334455087
Then you should try a different service, I get mine after 25.
>>334453521
It would help if pirates didn't constantly antagonize fans by insinuating the main reason they're pirating is because it's not good enough to buy.
>>334455260
Congrats, you're one of the 5% of who actually stick to their word. Now what about the other 50% who don't buy it despite liking it, and the 45% who buy it after it goes on sale for $5?
Does anyone not give a shit if someone pirates a game, but still enjoy the rage pirates have at Denuvo? Hilarious reading threads how they're going to boycott the games. Which means they're not going to play them at all, instead of playing them without paying. All my keks
>>334455452
Just Cause 3 is pretty much the only game with Denuvo that isn't cracked worth playing
>>334455384
How about the 100% of shitposter who pull percents out of their asses?
>>334454964
This is too true
>>334455596
In an all-out fight between gut-feeling statistics and personal anecdotes, who will emerge victorious!? Two will enter the thread, but only one will leave!
>>334455045
this is rob, isn't it?
>>334455541
And that game is meh. Imagine if they Denuvo lock a super hyped game with over 90% meta critic rating. Sucks that DSIII didn't get it. Would have produced so much salt.
>>334455374
Sounds like a personal problem.
>>334455803
It'll happen eventually
Midori a cute
>>334455880
Joke's on you. I haven't liked a game in years. I'm just pointing out an easy way to keep pirates from getting people pissed off at them.
>>334456251
>Joke's on you. I haven't liked a game in years.
This anime is fucking boring I watched like the first 2 episodes and it's really shit but that's to be expected from Trigger I guess.
>>334453398
Don't care lol
What are you going to do about it, fag? NOW GIVE ME YOUR LUNCH MONEY
PIratefags dont buy games, we all know this.
>>334456859
Pirates live on ghost ships. They are the invisible humanoids of the world
>>334454137
Undertale is a small completely story-driven RPG with freely circulated DRM-free pirate copies since day one and tons of full let's play videos covering every aspect of it in the weeks after its release and it managed to sell at least 1.5 million. If your game sells like shit, the market doesn't want it.
>>334453398
I suplex them through the nearest table, stand over them and scream.
>You're messing with the mean machine now sucka
before curb stomping their sorry asses.
>>334455789
Excuse me? Its close. Names Bob. Who is this?
I get called rob a lot sometimes.
I only pirate as a form of protest against capitalism.
That voice though.
>>334457235
Undertale is a small, shitty meme game intended to maximally appeal to tumbrinas, numales, twitter users, let's players and the meme generation. So of course it will sell.
This show is fucking beautiful. Its like if Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt and Space Dandy had babies together.
>>334457463
No, the person you're replying to had it right. Not you. Also Stardew Valley sold fantastically simply by word of mouth.
>>334453398
What anime fampai?
>>334457235
This, although Toby was already internet famous through being one of the important music dudes for Homestuck in its prime.
If your game is good, expect customers. Don't even worry about pirates, because you literally can't accurately measure the people who didn't buy the game.
>>334457463
Well, what are you then?
>>334457341
This is the correct answer, comrades.
http://listenonrepeat.com/watch/?v=_sxTbfeYdO0#Hymn_of_the_USSR_-_Red_Army_Choir_%28English_Sub.%29
>>334454137
>Plenty of small developers who make lesser known games suffer because of piracy.
And yet nobody has been able to name a single one without using ancedotal evidence and correlation=causation logic
>>334457596
A counterhip-hipster. I unironically played Bioshock Infinite and thought it was an okay game
Pro piracy or neutral boards
>/a/, /b/, /c/, /d/, /e/, /f/, /g/, /gif/, /h/, /hr/, /k/, /m/, /o/, /p/, /r/,/s/, /t/, /u/, /vg/, /vr/, /w/, /wg/, /i/, /ic/, /r9k/, /s4s/, /cm/, /hm/,/lgbt/, /y/, /3/, /aco/, /adv/, /an/, /asp/, /biz/, /cgl/, /ck/, /co/, /diy/, /fa/, /fit/, /gd/, /hc/, /his/, /int/, /jp/, /lit/, /mlp/, /mu/, /n/, /news/, /out/, /po/, /pol/, /sci/, /soc/, /sp/, /tg/, /toy/, /trv/, /tv/, /vp/, /wsg/, /x/
Boards where piracy is still taboo
>/v/
Who allowed this to happen? Why does /v/ acts as a special snowflake when it comes to piracy?
>>334453604
I pirate and I buy everything I like in under a month from trying it.
>>334457768
Because /v/ actually likes video games. Also you're wrong. I yell at people on /a/ for pirating too. And if they complain to me about buying R1 releases, then I want them importing and buying from Japan.
>>334457851
Fuck off faggot, you shouldn't be excluded from culture because you are poor.
>>334457768
because this is the only board where people keep coming to shove their piracy in our faces and being like "Lol why you getting so annoyed?"
Why the fuck do you peopel feel a compulsion to tell every stranger on /v/ that you're pirating. We don't fucking care. It's not edgy or cool it's not interesting, stop shoving it in our faces faggot.
>>334457564
Stardew Valley had so little going for it, from what I've heard. Shittier art than Harvest Moon, no improvement over its formula, everyone's apparently a vegan for reasons.
Not to mention the start of the story is so goddamn pretentious.
>>334457851
>/v/ actually likes video games
>>334457851
There's practically no legal way to watch anime unless you stream
>>334457851
>/v/ actually likes video games
Have you been on this board for more than 10 minutes?
it could be the best game on earth and we would be shitting on it.
we love to hate games not like them
>>334457851
>/v/ actually likes video games
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
>>334457851
I bet you pay for porn too.
>>334457851
>/v/ actually likes video games
>>334457851
>Because /v/ actually likes video games
Literally no one is going to be convinced to import your shitty games you delusional weeb
>>334457981
Meant to add this at the end: I'm surprised it got so popular, because what I've seen of it is flash game tier. I didn't think more than a thousand people would be paying money for it.
That just goes to show how little this shit affects anyone. I'm betting let's players provide a better opportunity for people to not waste money on this shit than piracy itself.
>>334453398
why is skeleton cop in this?
>>334458364
It's impossible to tell what the human creature will like. It is a fickle beast.
>>334457851
>/v/ actually likes video games
The fact that these images exist tell me otherwise
>>334457973
>because this is the only board where people keep coming to shove their piracy in our faces and being like "Lol why you getting so annoyed?"
That's because /v/ is one of the only boards where you people get annoyed by any mention of piracy and try to justify industry bullshit by scapegoating pirates. People talk about how they pirate on all boards all the fucking time, but on /v/ crybabies like you shit your pants over people "shoving it in your faces" while dozens if not hundreads of denuvo threads and demands for piracy justifications are made?
Why the fuck do you people feel a compulsion to tell every stranger on /v/ that piracy is wrong? Don't pretend you don't care when you clearly fucking do. It's not edgy or cool it's not interesting, stop pretending you moralfags are being persecuted and shoving your rhetoric it in our faces you collossal faggot.
>>334454053
>>334457851
scum like you needs to be permabanned
What videogames let meFIGHT FOR JUSTICE
I pirate out of sheer spite desu. I got fucked in the ass from monday to friday since 06 with shitty games, shitty ports, shitty rehashes of shitty games, no demos, bullshots, bullfucking e3 demos, hell I got a huge stack of games over here for which I fucking HATE myself having paid money for. That's a lot on a consumer to have him hate himself buying your product.
You see the problem is that these corporations don't give a fuck about their consumers, because they got us by the balls. You can either eat their shit up or not play anything at all. Majority of so-called developers in this industry are untalented passionless hacks. The studios may have a good art department but the main teams are filled with 9 to 5 wageslaves and buisness suits that have no buisness make games in the first place.
In the end I don't give a fuck anymore, I supported this hobby and this industry since it's babysteps. I'm one of the many reasons why Activision still exists for example. I still remember their logo from the 8-bit times where piracy was way more than it is today, everyone copied that floppy. But oh wonder look at Activision, they are still here.
It all becomes a very clear picture if you have seen it all with your own eyes.
Back in pre 06, /v/ as a whole knew all this, it doesn't anymore, and that's what people mean when they say neo /v/. Even if you kids misuse that too nowadays.
Nice thread
>>334458829
>>334453398
That's the basic argument pirates use because they're such bitches that they want to steal a game but also want to not look like the asshole they are for doing it.
There's not much point protcting your image when you're a scumbag, leech and liar.
>>334459118
>6 seconds webm for a 3 frame animation
Holy shit.
>>334454775
>Inferno Cop's boss
I thought the ICPD got destroyed.
>>334457851
hope you're enjoying all these (you)s
>>334457262
It's the smelly nerd. If this is really bob then tell me what my other nickname is.
>>334459190
>scumbag, leeches, liars
So... the modern AAA game industry?
>>334459190
It's been more than 10 years and you children still haven't figured out that piracy isn't stealing
>you're a scumbag, leech and liar.
Pot calling the kettle a nigger.
>>334459205
have a gif then.
when will you anime posters fuck off back to /a/
>>334459358
2fast chewing
>>334454463
>>334454775
>>334459252
its obviously inferno cop kamina
>>334459426
Japanese video games practically are anime now
Hasn't it been proved that "pirates" are the people who spend the most on media? I mean, video games, movies, books, music. I think there was a study out there that pretty much said this.
Also, taking into account that most pirates are people who have understand PC's (even if just a little, my GF or my Dad can't pirate anything, they don't know how to), aren't they the demographic that actually care about games? I can't see many normies buying Dragons Dogma, no, casuals will only buy games from the biggest franchises. the nerd with 200 games in his steam account is a guy that has or still does, pirate games.
I should know, I used to pirate all the time.
>>334459118
I can see Trigger still doesn't know how to animate worth a shit.
>>334459449
NOT FAST ENOUGH
>>334457851
(you)
>>334459552
This gif is what caused Teekyuu to be as popular as it was on /a/
I simply pirate because I don't want to buy the game.
If it doesn't offer multiplayer or long lasting content, I'll pirate it. It's simply that. I don't want to pay, but I want to play.
>>334457851
/a/ buys merchandise for the shit they like.
A fucking lot of it.
>>334458706
>Why the fuck do you people feel a compulsion to tell every stranger on /v/ that piracy is wrong?
See this is exactly what I'm talking about, you faggots are looking for reactions, you just come here and b8 non stop. I never said it was wrong, I pirate games myself but I don't come here expressly to shove that information down people's throats and b8 an angry response.
Literally nobody cares except for a small handful of over-sensitive developers. The only thing people care about is your smug attitude and your pointless b8ing.
But of course you STILL don't get it do you? You're going to reply with another oblivious statement like "Well don't get so mad about piracy" not realizing that it's your own fucking stupidity that's pissing people off and piracy has nothing to do with it.
>>334457851
>>334459190
Back in the day if a performer performed poorly they were driven out of town. Sadly all we can do now is steal their imaginary profits they earned on the baseless theory that the absolute trash they churn out is worth money.
>>334457851
>/v/ actually likes video games
>>334459693
>Back in the day if a performer performed poorly they were driven out of town.
Wow how unforgiving. What if they were just having a bad day, like they had indigestion or something?
Back in the day developers who made shit games would be so humiliated that they would literally bury all remaining copies of their game.
>>334459743
Probably shouldn't have been performing, clearly bad judgment on their part.
>>334459663
>The only thing people care about is your smug attitude and your pointless b8ing.
See this is exactly what I'm talking about, you faggots are looking for reactions, you just come here and b8 non stop. I never said it was right, I buy games myself but I don't come here expressly to shove anti-piracy rheotric down people's throats and b8 an angry response.
Literally nobody cares outside of /v/ and /vg/. Literally nobody. This is fucking 4chan for fucks sake. Yet every fucking day we have non stop threads about BASED DENUVO by smug moralfags who demand people justify their video game piracy and youre accusing me of baiting?
But of course you STILL don't get it do you? You're going to reply with another oblivious statement like "Hurr they're only trolling you!" not realizing that it's your own fucking stupidity that's pissing people off and you being mad about piracy has everything to do with it.
>>334459693
>>334459327
>>334459342
The biggest victim of piracy are niche games. Tech savvy players taking what they want for free(why bother with games that aren't good?) and withering the part of the industry that they like.
While mainstream AAA grows like a weed that further damages it because they're too big for piracy to effect. Pirating niche games instead of supporting them only helps AAA win out.
>>334460068
>I still don't get it, the post
I want Reddit to leave right fucking now
>>334460150
>calling someone reddit
>for advocating piracy
wew, lad.
>>334460204
>I still don't understand basic concepts even when I've been told straight out
Literally nothing to do with piracy and everything to do with your stupidity you reddit fag.
>>334460123
>The biggest victim of piracy are niche games
And those games either die out because they're too niche to be sustainable, regardless of whether they're even piratable. Or they become big enough that they can pander to the wider audience and abandon the audience that got them their in the first place.
Piracy is the biggest scapegoat in this entire industry. Porn get pirated ∞ times more than video games. Literally anyone who argues against piracy on 4chan is a fucking mong.
>>334460123
The fundamental problem with that rationale is that the people who pirate were never going to buy the game anyways. It's not any different than if you made an RTS and then complaining that fighting-game-players didn't buy it. If your business plan assumed that people who weren't in your target audience were going to buy it then you deserve to go out of business.
>>334460278
You're not convincing anyone faggot. You still don't understand basic concepts even when you've been told straight out that denuvo threads and other anti-piracy b8 gets posted here every day making your hypocritical bullshit null and void
Complaining about the "attidude" of piratefags is the most reddit thing you can possibly do.
>hurr but it's not actually about piracy!
Blow it out your ass.
>>334460569
>I still don't understand
This right here, this is fucking Reddit. Even when you've been told something right to your face and you can't understand it.
Leave 4chan, nobody asked your autism to spread here, just fuck off.
>>334460512
>The fundamental problem with that rationale is that the people who pirate were never going to buy the game anyways.
If piracy was not an option, it just didn't exist at all, do you seriously think sales for all games would be exactly the same as they are now?
Let me guess, you think they'd be less, right? Because of "word of mouth"? As if that argument still stands in the age of Twitch and Youtube.
>>334460771
>he doesn't have friends
Word of mouth is still very important, even just getting the initial namedrop out helps loads
>>334460512
>is that the people who pirate were never going to buy the game anyways.
That's bullshit. The DS proves that once introduced a convenient method of piracy can turn willing paying customers into pirates.
In 2009 when the DS still sold 20 million hardware each year and was getting tonnes of Software the software sales in Europe dropped by 50%, if the systems growth was pirates the sales should have just held steady but they plummeted.
People who would otherwise buy the game would pirate it once the option becomes available as it becomes an opportunity to play the game they want for free and save their money to spend on something they can't pirate.
>>334454137
>Plenty of small developers who make lesser known games suffer because of piracy.
plenty of small developers BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT MAJOR AAA COMPANIES also suck at marketing their games and have a convenient "piracy" issue to fall back on
>>334460897
Your little circle of friends vs. the internet
One is a little bigger than the other, champ.
>>334461161
If they were just using piracy as a scapegoat, don't you think they'd stop looking for ways to prevent it?
>>334454367
dindu nuffin
>>334461171
My friends have friends though
>>334457851
You clearly have no idea how either /a/ or /v/ work.
>>334457463
congratulations
you have figured out the magical ingredient to sell games even if you suck at developing - pandering to target audiences
everyone has to market their games to an audience for it to sell holy shit, too many indie devs for some reason seem to completely ignore this though and seem to think of themselves as artists, creative producers or some shit
>>334461353
Some indie devs just want to get their game out and how profitable it ends up being is only a secondary consideration.
>>334461328
So what?
I can't believe you are seriously arguing that telling your personal friends has comparable reach to the internet.
>>334461282
>don't you think they'd stop looking for ways to prevent it?
>small developers
>prevent piracy
huh? are you sure you are following the argument here?
>>334458204
I do. Pic related.
>>334459646
But they rarely buy anime themselves. Just merchandise surrounding the anime, which usually consists of figures.
>>334458053
>implying
What are BDs and DVDs? Import if you must. Anime is cheap if you're buying in region, and if it isn't available in your region then import and pay the extra fees. Hell, importing anime may be expensive, but importing manga is cheap as fuck. I've done it and its great. Its better quality than R1 releases are, even in manga.
>>334461517
Of course word of mouth is still important. Twitch and Youtube implies you already are interested in the product and want to learn more. Word of mouth has the ability to pass interest to people who were previously indifferent/unaware.
Not even a pirateboo, but c'mon.
>>334461502
>and how profitable it ends up being is only a secondary consideration
or it never gets brought up because they got lucky or had a natural sense for an audience in the first place
you can bitch about yandere sim and undertale for being shit but the creators with or without research knew exactly what the audience would slobber over since they are sort of embedded in the community
>>334455167
"give him the old one-two"
>>334453398
I concede that they are correct. I don't care either way.
>>334460771
>if people were unable to acquire X for free clearly they would throw away money on it just because
>>334461003
Nintendo Estimated a drop of 45% in Europe after the release of that device. That drop is over 4 times larger than was estimated in the US and over 6 times larger than was estimated in Japan.
Now either people in the US and Japan are more honest (they aren't) or there are clearly other factors involved.
Example: doesn't Europe have some pretty bad censorship laws on video games? Perhaps they were pirating less censored US versions?
Example2: Europeans pay far higher prices for video games for absolutely no good reason?
>>334454283
>What leads to a game like Shovel Knight being able to sell 1 mil despite piracy while other indie games collapse?
Being halfway decent.
>>334461589
>Secret sorrow of the siblings
Do let us know how that one is.
>But they rarely buy anime themselves. Just merchandise surrounding the anime, which usually consists of figures.
Naturally. Most of /a/ can't read or speak moon, they aren't going to import anime or manga. At the same time localization companies/publishers are shit and we would be ecstatic if they went out of business so we aren't going to buy from them.
>>334461589
Ok, i'll bite.
Do you buy this stuff purely for moral reasons? Logically and economically it makes no sense to do so from the perspective of the consumer. Free is objectively better than having to pay for the exact same product.
Does it make you feel better? IE are you spending money to generate positive emotions (which is a transaction I understand) because otherwise I cannot see the logic in your actions.
>>334453521
Because I'm a paid shill.
>>334453398
>How do you respond
I don't, because piratefags are pirating games just to get a rise out of me and I won't give them the satisfaction of reacting.
>>334453398
Best anti-pirating system
>>334459295
I dont know any smelly nerds in real life. all my friends are better looking and more richer than me.
unless this is one of my steam friends. Ethen is that you?
>>334461517
My freinds know my tastes, thus if they recommend me a game I know it's worth checking out
'my friends have friends' mean that there a potentially neverending chain of friend circles being influenced by word of mouth
>>334462340_______________NEVER_____________EVER____________
>>334462340
I assume that if you buy it, the sub becomes your desired name or something.
>>334461842
>there are clearly other factors involved.
Being from the UK I can tell you it's because it was ridiculously easier to pirate. Store owners had no problem selling R4 with dozens of games pre-installed on you could have absolutely no idea how to download games but in one purchase get dozens and rarely if not never have to buy a game again.
When the lowest common denominator can pirate without thinking then it spins out of control. I think valve believes it-s all abut service. However if on Steam there was a free download button next to every game called "pirate" I don't think think they'd retain their success.
>>334462340
what is this game called again?
>>334462340
Deletes all hopes?
>>334461589
>What are BDs
Not really many series get BD releases anymore
>and DVDs?
What is this, 2003?
>if it isn't available in your region then import and pay the extra fees.
Not viable. I'd just shitpost for fun instead
>>334453398
call him a degenerate
>>334453398
don't buy it bro it's shit.
>>334455384
>45% who buy it after it goes on sale for $5?
Even if that was true?
There's nothing wrong with it.
It was honestly a shock to me learning that some people don't pirate because of their conscience.
Completely alien concept to me.
>>334457768
Marketers and shitposters.
>>334463301
>Completely alien concept to me.
What's really strange is that they seem to think that were the shoe on the other foot the devs wouldn't rob them blind.
>>334453398
>>334463531
Technically the devs already are robbing some people blind. Look at mobile whales or people who bought Evolve, etc
>>334454367
WHO IS THIS GUY
>want to play Dark Souls because faggots here say it's the second coming of Jesus
>clunky shit, unfair mechanics, sluggish gameplay
>try DS 2
>it's the same
I'm glad I dodged that bullet and don't tell me to git gud, I don't care if you fags play that a dragondildo in your ass because you like getting assraped, I don't.
>>334457851
>Because /v/ actually likes video games.
>>334459118
Trigger does a good job at making potential reaction images
>>334454367
>INFERNO COP
PICKED THE FUCK UP
>Would never buy the game otherwise
>Pirate it
>Play it
>Like it
>Buy it
>Pretending that your morality lessons will at all change our minds, on whether or not to save money.
>Without hurting a company who would never get my money otherwise.
>Chances are I own more games and movies than you all
>>334453398
>Make a qt ayy lmao with shark teeth and good colors
>Give her NANI SORE voice
>>334464315
Is this the source of the infamous Glass him meme?
>>334464972
No, google 'The Wolf Among Us glass him'
>>334465063
I thought glass him would mean kill him. Didn't mobsters use that term?
>>334453398
If devs made quality games I'd buy them.
I pirated Dx:HR at release but then bought the director's cut.
And now I have MD preordered.
You don't because assuming that someone's lying just because it's a fairly common stance makes you an asshole.
>>334464315
>He doesn't like NANI SORE
