So, none of you faggots ACTUALLY chose House, right? You would never believe his lies, right?
New Vegas thread, I guess.
>>334430606
If you buy his fucking games, then you might as well go with the lies otherwise you are lying to yourself.
But I know you fags didn't buy shit as you're pretty damn based.
not every courier is a bleeding heart faggot who cares about new vegas. that's why house and the legion were options. it's for couriers who wanted to be in a position of great power.
>>334430810
>it's for couriers who wanted to be in a position of great power
>independent ending has you literally becoming the leader of all of vegas
>>334430606
The man doesn't give a fuck about drama. He just wants to advance civilization through his own means. He's basically giving you an offer to be set for life and making you his right hand man. He even tells you why he wouldn't just kill you or stop communicating with you.
>>334431243
His idea was not something obtainable by humans. Case in point, I murdered him to have new vegas for my own.
How do Midwest and Eastern BoS compare to each other?
I kind of like the idea of the BoS becoming fascist conquerors in the event that they drop the whole isolationist thing.
>>334431024
>independent fags actually believe this
Yes, because that army of Securitrons that Yes Man has power over sure points to the Courier ruling the entire Mojave
>>334431024
just you, though. with house on your side, or the legion's armies on your side, you are far more powerful. and far less susceptible to a coup.
>>334430606
You sorta owe the dude for saving your life.
>>334431468
>>334431492
>people are still parroting this
Sawyer literally said Yes Man was not going to betray you and his becoming assertive at the end of the game was actually to make it HARDER to turn him against you.
That entire army of bots is yours, and that's not even counting the fact that the courier themselves is a damn one person army.
>>334431024
Not really, House is the only ending that imp;lies the Courier lives the good life. Independence means no one is ruling anything and Yesman and the Secuitrons merely exist to protect Vegas in cases of crime or invasion but nothing more.
But seriously, what does Yes Man mean by "Becoming more assertive"? I thought it meant he'd betray you but the ending states the Courier moves on willingly.
WHY DIDN'T YOU JOIN
YOU COULD HAVE STOPPED IT
>>334431770
He can actually think for himself and choose his own boss. Not just anyone can order him around anymore and he's only loyal to the Courier.
Nah, I went from NCR. House didn't seem trustworthy and both Legion and Independent depended on the actions of psychopaths.
>>334431873
My intelligence was too low to not join
>>334431421
Midwest BoS used to be the pinnacle of humanity and the greatest hope to preserve technology and advance the waste but as the NCR was becoming bigger and advanced and more tribes and towns were forming their paranoia became less understandable and their claim to all old world tech and "Last Hope of Humanity" turned to false claims of grandeur because they think that they helped kill the Master they're big shits that could do no wrong while the NCR was actually doing shit. They're xenophobia and wanting to be a super secret club that needed no one eventually became their downfall.
East Brotherhood became a weird mix of NCR and Followers of the Apocalypse, an army of goody two shoes without any actual expansion. A lot of the members didn't like this and formed the Outcast which mirrored the West preservation of technology and egotism. Or so that what was Fallout 3 like, I haven't played 4 and can't vouch for it 100%.
>>334432007
I dunno maybe it's just me but they way he said is struck me as a sinister tone.
Just download the Joshua Graham mod. Pretty badass, but he feels too overpowered at points. It was pretty satisfying to walk into Caesar's tent and shoot him with Joshua.
>>334432463
Bethesda reverses the knights in shining armor thing in 4, and turns them into fascists.
>>334432679
Good for Bethesda.
I can actually see the Brotherhood expand as a fascist dictatorship, taking everyone's weapons in the promise that the Brotherhood will save them when they need it.
I went with Elijah because the prospect of simply massacreing the entire wasteland through biological warfare and then living in a post-scarcity world with an unkillable army and infinitely-reproducing machines intrigues me.
>>334432463
They became pragmatic Nazis in 4. Efficient and as focused on pacifying the wastes as they are on technology. Pretty much the best good guys however as the other good guy groups are pants on head retarded.
>People will rather join NCR than the legion
>>334434038
They hate technology, they practice slavery, and their "justice" is brutal.
>not going for yes-man
lol
>>334434038
>People would rather help the expansion of the civilized east world with albeit slightly corrupt but still well meaning government over helping some old dying asshole achieve his masturbatory god complex because he taught a bunch of savages how to make fire and make metal sticks go pew-pew at the end
>>334434291
*help the expansion of civilization to the east
Is what I meant.
>>334434291
the legion is more than a masturbatory god complex. if they weren't slavers, then they would be objectively the best choice. if he let those tribes continue to bicker forever, the world, or arizona at least would resemble modern day africa after a couple hundred years.
>>334434263
This. Yes-man was the best friend I ever had. He was always really nice too you and liked to listen you and trusted 100% in your judgement.
Everyone was so mean in the desert but Yes-man was enough to brighten up my day. I even downloaded the mod that let me take him as companion, so I could enjoy of his company 24/7.
There will never be another Fallout game as good as New Vegas, it hurts so bad.
>>334434992
that kid looks like he wasn't even born yet when fallout 1 came out.
>>334430606
nah, I actually chose him everytime. he's a visionary with a plan, and he likes me. I have no interest in controlling anything, just wandering and he'll let me crash at his pad when I'm in town.
>>334434992
iktfb. F:NV was my favorite game of last gen. Haven't even bothered with 4
>>334435145
You can buy Fallout 1 and 2 on Steam. It's not hard to imagine a curious kid finding this out and buying it.
>>334434651
>if they weren't slavers
Yes and no. There's still crucifixion, rape and assaulting caravans.
>>334432532
JE Sawyer has been on record saying that it wasn't meant to sound sinister. The Yes Man is saying he will try and improve his coding to prevent being manipulated by any rando looking to overthrow The Courier.
I'll see if I can find the post.
>>334435326
Don't
>>334435326
It's alright but it's not Fallout.
>>334435648
most of the people who were crucified were slaves who slacked off or disobeyed rules. there is rape everywhere, you can hear women being raped in the background ambience in freeside. i didn't know that they raided caravans...i assumed they were okay with them, since they had a caravaneer in the Fort itself.
>>334436683
I think that anon implied they were raiding other caravans outside Legion territory.
Cass mentions Legion caravans are as safe as diamonds or something.
>>334436683
>there is rape everywhere
Yeah, but the legion outright condones it.
>>334436683
>>334436918
Legion trade with caravan and traders they know and are usually safe because everybody's to too scared to fuck with the Legion and traders don't have to pay taxes either.
Caravans and traders they don't know or part of NCR are seen as profligates and are killed/tortured when seen.
reminder that he was the best villain in the game
>>334430606
>So, none of you faggots ACTUALLY chose House, right? You would never believe his lies, right?
No. I did everything I had to do to put a bullet in Benny's face. I figured for that to happen I'd have to play Caesar's game for a little bit. So I sided with The Legion until I got what I wanted. Then switched to NCR.
>>334431243
>The man doesn't give a fuck about drama. He just wants to advance civilization through his own means. He's basically giving you an offer to be set for life and making you his right hand man. He even tells you why he wouldn't just kill you or stop communicating with you.
In 200 years with all his resources he had accomplished nothing but a walled in area with 3 casinos and a motel. Getting the electricity up couldn't have been easy but that was nothing the NCR couldn't do.
House was a petty despot with grand schemes he could never get done.
>>334438657
He needed the chip. The chip that you were delivering and got shot over.
>>334438657
Do they ever explain why he didn't do anything until about 10 years before the game starts?
>>334434038
>>People will rather join NCR than the legion
NCR is civilization. Caesar would do nothing by destroy, destroy, destroy.
>>334438263
>implying i didn't side with elijah to take over the mojave
HOUSE vs THE INSTITUTE
>>334438903
Yes. The framework he had been building for years in prep for the great war was still incomplete. He spent a huge chunk of time just trying to stay alive and get everyone in some working condition.
The chip that you were delivering was meant to go to him days before the war began. He spent ten years rebuilding Vegas while sending people out to find the chip.
>>334439269
Not now /tv/.
Going to do a quick run of Fallout 4 and then never touch it ever again. What build should I do, faction to join, choices to make?
>>334439452
It won't matter in the end, the game was disappointing.
Guns
Institutethis game has had so little choice that matters you can pick whatever you want.
>>334439452
Do a build to maximize the damage you do and minimize the damage you take.
Join the Minutemen.
Make the choice of being a male or female character.
>>334439269
House is from the Institute.
Check his death note from New Vegas.
>>334439001
on his conquest into the mojave, he destroys
actual legion controlled territory which is not under war is peaceful and prosperous
i really can't argue with you because obsidian really didn't flesh out the legion like they wanted to but van buren legion was probably gonna be best faction
>Not being a glorious liberator of the wastes
>Not fighting for independence with Yes Man
>Not fighting for a world where every man can be a king
>>334439974
I've met the average man, and have realized half of them are worse than that.
Some people can't be their own Kings.
>>334440058
>Literally a dictator
caesar pls go
>>334430606
His personality and way of doing things suited my courier. My first character was a ruthless greedy merc, kind of lawful neutral, his only drill to do things was the money. House promises money and power if you help him so that's what I did. I didn't gave a fuck about the ideals of the incompetent ncr or the legion scum. Independent was a viable option too but if you think about it house has a solid plan for the progress and sustainability of vegas for the long term. My courier was just good at "fixing problems" by force if necessary so he's perfect as his second hand and gets to live a wealthy, comfortable life doing threesomes with cass and veronica everyday while boone watches like the cuck he is.
>>334440124
If you don't like how I run this place you can unite the Mojave tribes under your banner, murder your way through my army and take off my head. That's how I got the job. Vote with your axe, now that's democracy.
>>334440263
>implying Veronica would ever fuck you
>implying you're not getting cucked by Cass
>>334440263
>murders his own wife so she wouldn't have to live as a sex slave
that's the most fucking badass, uncucked thing anyone could possibly do.
>>334430606
Why is Todd Howard pretending to be the Colonel?
>>334440520
MY WIFE IS DEAD
>>334430606
>implying Good Karma House Courier isn't best ending, especially without OWB
He loves you, man.
>>334441243
>OWB is one of the main reasons a courier led vegas+mojave is the best option
>lol we're not gonna count it xD
>>334442156
the courier is a wanderer he's got no business running an entire land
i just find independant so nonsensical
>>334442352
that means he's experienced, he knows about the dangers he would face as the leader of vegas. he knows about all the little pockets of deathclaws and cazadors that need to be cleaned out.
>>334442568
But can he stave off the inevitable Tunneler invasion?
>>334442742
i think you meanthe sons of goris
tunelers a shit
>>334441243
What's up with OWB? I feel like I'm forgetting something.
>>334443316
if you don't kill everyone you pretty much become the mediator between the Big MT and the rest of the world, taking technology back and forth, etc etc
also you get a sick pad
>>334442742
yes, that's what the drone army and uniting the fringe tribes was about
>>334431024
Even if you want Independent Vegas, House is still a better option. You can see what he plans, have him sort out control and put down any insurrection or problems. Then when the time is right, you strike and take over. It's not like it'd be difficult for The Courier and friends, in fact the ending if you have negative karma is basically House gives you everything you ask for out of fear. Even when he has a damn army.
>>334442742
he'll probably be dead by then desu.
>>334431024
i thought the point of independant vegas was getting rid of all the governments and dictators, giving it back to the people, etc etc
what's the point if the courier just becomes mr. house 2.0 except he'll die a lot sooner so ncr/legion can just come in and take over anyway
>>334442742
Tunneler's are not that difficult or tough to deal with if you have a decent weapon. They're also scared of lights and operate in the dark or heavily irradiated areas. Ulysses was a crazy, pessimistic asshole who was full of shit. I think they're just gonna stay in the divide. Even in the divide, they were not exactly popping up everywhere - only in dark caves, the marked men didn't seem to have a great difficult surviving in the divide with them around.
Yeah, they can fuck up a Deathclaw in a pack but an automatic rifle or squad of NCR would mow them down pretty quickly. Also I'm sure House or Big MT could come up with a solution if all those options failed.
>>334433129
Just because people are afraid of the Institute doesn't make them Evil.
>>334443839
It's kind of up to the player, do you take an active control in it? Or do you just get rid of all the factions and let the New Vegas inhabitants and gangs sort it out amongst themselves? There are a lot of possibilities. Also your Courier could potentially just turn into Mr House, immortality included. The Courier is already potentially full of augmented technology from their time in Big MT, there is no reason, once The Courier got old enough, for them to enter a statis like Mr House did.
Basically independent ending is whatever you want it to be, I doubt it will be the canon ending anyway.
>>334444417
do you think they just wanted a reason to never go back to the mojave in another game
>>334444741
They wouldn't need a reason. Fallout 1/2 had some overlap on the world map, but otherwise were separate settings.
Obsidian said if they ever made another FO it were involved, it'd be set in New Orleans with minimum NCR involvement. Unless Bethesda decide to do it themselves, I think the West Coast story is over for the foreseeable future.
I hope the canon ending is a House win, that's a good ending for the NCR and makes the most sense. I like the NCR, it's really cool to see them growing into what they are from the first game and Tandi. But if they just keep expanding, they're gonna collapse and FO isn't gonna be as chaotic as it should be. NCR is a nice size, if House wins, then NCR gets to regroup, work on its internal problems instead of imperialist ambitions and the Legion will no longer be a huge problem for them because the Mojave is essentially a buffer zone for them from the Legion..
Provided House follows through with his promises then Good Karma House Ending is by far and away the best ending for both the Mojave and the rest of the world. Give House access to the Big MT and that progress will be even faster.
Please Howard-San, give Obsidian the opportunity to make another game with the FO4 engine. Plz give us something entirely different. The US annexed Canada, give us that. Maybe south like Louisiana or Florida?
>>334445132
House is probably too arrogant to accept Big MT technology, best he not have access to it anyway.
>>334445071
>Fallout set in New Orleans
>Ghouls in Venetian Masks, Giant Catfish and Crayfish
>All the jazz and blues on the radio
>Exploring the French District with your trusty rifle and robopal
Anon, stop. I can't handle wanting more things that won't happen ever.
>>334430606
New Vegas without House just feels wrong
House IS New Vegas, not some suits or romans. Anyone else in control of it is just weird.
It's not like he wants to rule the whole world, he barely even wants the whole Mojave, he just wants his little city that he managed to make great again, why take it away from him?
>>334445132
I'm dubious of his ability to follow through, but a lot of his plans seem really solid and well thought out. Like you'd think the NCR would be pissed as fuck at House turning on them, but he basically eradicated a good portion of the Legions forces and let NCR withdraw peacefully. Would the NCR throw up sanctions and other stuff? You'd have thought so, but House is very likely to still provide the majority of the power from the dam to NCR territory which they desperately need. He basically created a two way deal where the NCR is essential to House and vice versa.
House never completely explained his long term plans though, did he want to create a great City state with New Vegas? He never seemed to give a shit about anything outside of the Strip. Even in the endings, he still doesn't care about Freeside. The scope seemed really small, he seemingly doesn't want to create an Empire or anything large.
>>334445684
When you think about it, House was nothing but civil in his dealing with the NCR. He never even suggested turning on them, that choice is up to you after you kill Lanius. NCR are the first to make a move on him.
>>334431686
I like to think that if yes man were to betray the courier he would just chuckle to himself then rip the circuitry out of each individual securitron with his bare hands. Courier is the supreme gary stu. And I fucking love it.
>>334445916
I think House quite liked the NCR, they were fairly civilized and his main source of income. He just knows about this type of democracy and particularly one with imperialistic plans. His plan to neutralise the NCR all the while keeping them onboard was fucking great. Basically keep their President alive, all the blame will be put on them, the people will no longer support NCR expansionism and will probably elect another President who will be more open to peace. House wins without firing a shot and he is probably doing the NCR a favour.
House is really really super smart with all his short term plans, you just never get the chance to explore his long term plans in any detail. Too bad all post-game content was cut because they only had 12 months to make the game lol.
>hearing the ghost people knock on the Sierra Madre's door for the first time
jesus
>>334446271
>Ghost people companion mod where
>>334445996
I don't even get where people have the idea of Yes Man betraying Courier. Yes Man never shows or hints at any kind of great ability to do anything but take orders.
I do kind of wish there was some kind of mini-quest for Yes Man though where you could reprogram him with your science skill or asking Emily. Always seemed kind of dangerous to have him still unable to refuse orders, even when he was uploaded to the Lucky 38.
>>334446690
Because Skynet and "Upgrade to be more assertive"
>>334445684
The man was hell-bent on securing the Platinum Chip. House survived black-outs and all sorts of issues throughout his 200 years all the while scrounging for any hopes of regaining the chip. That alone justifies that he has the drive and capacity to enact long-term goals. House believes he could have people in orbit in 50 years. Granted, you're taking everything at face value which is why I previously stipulated that it would be the best end provided you could trust him to follow through. Moreover, the Good Karma ending also states that House is rather proud of the Courier and "his selection in Lieutenant". This leads me to believe that with a just Courier, House can be convinced to make progress towards space exploration.
>>334430606
I don't understand why people don't trust House.
>>334446690
The truth is based off the rpg mechanics theres no chance for any faction to really betray you, note that at the end of the game, if you maxed out your levels you are a cyborg(the various implants), master of stealth, can activate bullet time at will, has mastered all forms of combat, can talk a super mutant into thinking every single human is superior to him, have a small army of companions who are also ridiculously powerful, have the most efficient and deadly weapons and armor in the whole mojave, have more money than any vegas lord, be incredibly intelligent to the point of outsmarting most highly trained scientists, Be able to fight a deathclaw with your bare hands, have enough stimpacks to heal everyone in vegas 4 times, and just be plain lucky. No faction and I mean none, not even if they all worked together could stop this monstrosity at this point. I highly doubt yes man, ceaser, house, or even the entire ncr would have the balls to fuck with this man/woman
>>334430606
House is the only ending that implies you still take an active role in the Mojave.
NCR/Legion is just "Alright here's a medal now fuck off" and Independant is way too ambiguous.
House keeps you close and trusts you by the end, whereas the NCR and the Legion still doesn't really see you for how valuable you are and wouldn't care for your opinions on their actions while House probably discusses all his future moves with you first.
>>334447489
>"Alright here's a medal now fuck off"
House himself warns you many times that the ncr is just waiting for a chance to fuck new vegas. and the legion is famous for backstabbing anyone they can, its not worth the risk to side with them, either go house/yes man or go home.
>>334447792
>implying any of those fools could stand against the couriers 1 man army
>>334447489
Nah, he just gives you some luxury and sends you to do his bidding every now and then.
Don't forget that he insults your intelligence several times throughout the game.
>>334448534
>Don't forget that he insults your intelligence several times throughout the game.
Oh no, how horrible. The man is just not humble about his intellect.
>>334448534
>No intelligence checks in order to shove it back at him
One skill check fallout NV really needed
>>334448534
When you're just some dusty asshole that showed up on his doorstep and asked for money, yeah, he may doubt your intelligence a bit.
but considering he cares enough about you to make you his de facto protege, partner, and possibly even successor, I doubt he really thinks you're an idiot.
>>334448717
Insulting and acting superior to the one person that could make sure you win your conflict
It's not something big, but house should be smarter than that, he has no knowledge of the couriers mental state and for all he knows one insult could lead to a psycho spree.
>NV has entire threads dedicated discussions about the philosophical impact of a handful of factions as well as who, overall, would be the BEST ruler for the Mojave; moreover, taking into account the intrinsic options opened by each and every DLC.
>Meanwhile, FO4 threads have threads discussing which faction options are the LEAST retarded.
Goddamn it.
>>334448863
>just bring up the fact that you killed Benny to him
>he calls you a barbaric savage
Nah, he thinks you're wasteland scum, but you're his wasteland scum.
>>334448870
That's true, arrogance is really bad. Although the way he carries himself it comes across to me as more matter of fact and blunt even if it comes across as rude. I don't really see it as a "I consider you to be inferior to me" kind of thing. The man just seems strictly logical and insensitive which I am fine with.
>>334448870
In which he has you gunned down by the numerous Securitrons surrounding him, not that he realizes you're strong enough to kill them all.
If you prove yourself to him, he no longer insults you.
>>334448971
To be fair, the dialogue option for it is pretty braggy, and he only states how you're acting barbaric. He makes it clear he never cared about whether or not you kill Benny, only that he gets the chip back.
>>334448879
>it just works
>>334448879
isn't it funny how despite new vegas getting deadlined hard, and having countless amounts of content that would've fleshed the game out even more cut, it still manages to be better than the writing of 4, a triple A game which had a full development cycle?
when you really think about it, the Legion was the only thing that ended up getting fucked in the end.
>>334449273
Still, for all he knows the courier is a super drugged up madman who would jump at any chance to have an excuse to rip off mr houses crotch tube then rip him apart with his bare hands. For someone who is so smart, he really doesn't consider the possibilities.
>>334448879
New Vegas has always copped criticism for it's main antagonist faction, the legion, but that's because they're retarded. However, I agree, the factions in NV have a bit more depth.
>>334449528
Yeah no idea why he trusts the courier so much.
>>334448879
>minutemen are not a real faction, just a loose group of settlers who may or may not decide to help others when they need it
>BoS cant decide whether they want to help people or take their stuff, end up usually just doing both
>Railroad are SJW-tier retarded
>Institute are mad scientists for no real reason, claim to want to help humanity but do pretty much nothing in this regard
You have to admit it is a pretty complex debate.
>>334449654
Not like there was anyone he would have been able to trust more than you.
You were a completely unaligned wild card who was shot by the person who had betrayed him and survived, why not take a chance on you? Vegas, gambling, etc etc.
>>334449725
It would be better if I could actually ask some of these characters questions. If we were able to learn more, it could actually be pretty good but no we got 4 dialogue options that are all the same.
Meanwhile we have ceaser who gets super pissed and might send all his guards to wreck your anus if you so much as look at him the wrong way.
>didn't have high enough speech to merge dog/god
>didn't have high enough speech to give control to god
>had to settle for setting dog free
>but couldnt in good consience let him loose on the mojave
>had to kill him after i helped him conquer his greatest fear by shooting him in the back
severely unexpected feels
>>334449853
Thats what you get for being a NEET sperg.
Fuck you.
>>334449501
and i'm so mad about that. I can't bring myself to side with legion even if i'm playing a character specifically contrary to my own political and philosophical leanings because as they are i can't really abide being a rag tag bunch of shitty slavers despite the pure fuckin charisma of lanius and caesar.
seriously the first time caesar described lanius my dick must've gotten hard. plus caesar's voice actor jesus.
also pissed benny got shrifted. he's my manfu. don't give a fuck he shot me in the head let me marry matt perry.
What do you bet the main dev team gave and still give obsidian shit for New Vegas. Holding that bonus over their heads and giving them such short dev time. You better believe todd was giving them swirlies and body checking them into lockers he had specifically built for that purpose.
>>334449853
Dead money was bullshit on a gameplay level, but I'll admit I liked all of the followers. Especially if you play a paragon courier you have all forms of morality covered.
Dog: Extremely animalistic relying only on impulse
God: Extremely controlling to point where anything against him is considered evil
Dean: A thief and manipulator who only finds allys in those who kiss his ass
Christine: The most moral if you don't play paragon courier but still too obsessed with revenge to be a good person
Courier: Came to the sierra madre just to figure out the mystery of it instead of greed, tries his best to keep these others alive even if it's disadvantageous for him, and ultimately proves human nature can change by not giving into the greed who got others.
I always enjoyed playing a perfect type courier especially in dead money as you begin to affect the other people around you positively.
>>334450091
>tfw we might never get a real fallout again
>tfw next game gives you even less dialogue options and makes roleplay pretty much impossible
>>334450226
I always let dean die, the whole sierra madre fiasco was in part his fault, is fitting in a way, the he should die and stay forever in the sierra madre.
>>334450226
I think I'm the only one who actually liked playing through Dead Money
On a gameplay level, it was fun. Rationing ammo, searching for all the codes, having to rely on food to heal, using weapons you're not so comfortable with to fight the ghost people. It really took you out of your comfort zone and I thought that was refreshing.
WHAT A FUCKING JOKE
>>334450558
The problem with dead money is if you weren't a stealth character it was gonna be alot more difficult that it needed to be. If you did have sneak at 100 though it was actually pretty fun
>screw those radios though if it wasn't for those I would enjoy dead money 10 times more
>>334450687
>most of them are just slightly modified versions of eachother
>>334450506
You are following the tagline of fallout, war never changes. You don't think dean can change and ultimately didn't let go of the past.
Fallout New Vegas in general is all about repeating the mistakes of the past. Every faction is based off something old world, besides independent. Thats why independent will always be my favorite, I don't want to repeat the same mistakes over and over, it's time to move towards the future. If war can't change, the people must and if we rely on the past, no one will change.
>>334450697
I felt like it was a nice kind of difficulty though. It wasn't just buffed health and damage like Broken Steel and Point Lookout and shit. It required you to actually think and act smart.
But I mean, combat once you get the auto rifle and the code for .308 rounds kinda stops being an issue, anyway.
>>334449853
>bust into dilapidated store along the highway
>a chem'd out raider couple come at me with whatever scrap they had
>smash 'em. don't think twice about it.
>as i'm working my way to the back of the store, grabbing up what I can along the way, I notice a bed
>oh i guess they slept here
>look up
>on the wall, graffiti of a male stick figure and a female stick figure, holding hands, surrounded by a heart
That fucked me up for a long time.
>>334451084
YOU'RE BULLSHITTING ME WHERE
>>334451084
>tfw every one in the mojave thinks I'm a hero
>look at my stats
>500+ humans killed
>mutter to myself that I'm no hero
>war never changes
>>334450506
He does Let Go and Begin Again, though.
>>334430606
I liked him until I heard he wanted to go to space, then I realized he was just annother Old World moron. He couldn;t even protect the people of Freeside, how the hell was he gonna colonize space. Went Independent route without fear after that.
Also, It should have been possible to marry Cassie, vegas style, with a member of the Kings doing the vows.
>>334450853
Just because something's new doesn't mean it's inherently better.
>>334450697
Or melee. Jesus. I'm too attached to muh guns to give a melee build a go but the shit you can get away with in dead money as a melee build is ridiculous.
Who /ghoul/ here?
>>334451281
Doesn't mean it doesn't deserve a chance though. If independent new vegas doesn't last the ncr or the legion can have it's chance. But I'm not letting them touch vegas until I know it has no future without a flag. Better to see what we can do looking to the future before we get stuck in the past again.
Hey hey, did you guys forget about me? How could you? I'm fucking unforgettable! I'm basically the leader of the NCR you know!
>>334451391
Ugh, why did you post the ugliest ghoul in the game. Listen I'm no ghoul bigot but that one makes me want to puke.
>>334451487
Didn't I take your job already you junkie?
>>334451497
Typical smoothskin, judging people on the outside
>>334451351
by melee you better mean unarmed cuz that shit is OP as fuck
i threatened to put christine back into the autodoc when i first met her because i was playing a mean character that was going to let go during dead money
i was nice to her the rest of the DLC, but now she is fucking shooting at me
what do bros, i definitely dont want to kill her
>>334451187
I honestly can't remember. All I know specifically was that the room was small and the path to the back was kind of made into a single lane zig-zag by the grocery aisles? like they barricaded themselves.
Pic related- they had dragged the fallout nv version of 'those' and made a chokepoint to the back of the store. the store itself is one room and pretty small.
>>334440263
>Kills his own wife so she doesn't live as a Legion cumdump
>While she's pregnant with his son
>Goes out of his way to punish every legionary scum that he sees on sight
How the fuck's he a cuck? Are you retarded?
>>334451705
You screwed up mate, best to just accept the consequences of your choices.
>>334451705
sounds like you fucked up.
you fucked up now.
now you fucked up.
you have fucked.
up.
>>334451705
Should've let go during Honest Hearts.
>>334440263
>veronica is gay and would not fuck the courier in a thousand years
>cass has no love for house, once house has his victory she will walk away to live her life
>Boone, a cuck? He is more badass than the courier
You are small time.
>>334451802
>>334451857
>>334451875
this is bullshit, people give dean shit for being a whiney bitch and not listening if you fail at a good first impression, but christine is just as bad
fuck this;_;
>>334451953
>not choosing to cuck over house by screwing his robo wife.
>>334451963
>threaten to stuff her back into the most traumatic thing she's ever experienced
i dunno if you held her hand and helped her out with the elevator thing or not but it's a bit more impacting then insulting a ghouls ego
>>334430606
How can someone know how to change the color like that but not redfine an edge?
>>334451963
>Had the handholding scene
>Thought we had something
>Figured out she was veronica's butch
>mfw
>>334430606
But he gives Arcade objectively the best ending.
>>334452075
>tfw medicine and intelligence were way too low to do any of the stuff needed to hold her hand
FUCKKK
>>334452223
>Not giving arcade what he wants and going independent
The worst that happens to him is he's slightly disappointed.
>>334452092
>hold her hand as a female courier
>feel the /u/ overtaking me
In all fairness, a little reassurance like that would probably mean the world if you were abducted and tossed into an experiment and bear trap dumping ground.
>>334445416
>Alligator and Crawfish mirelurks
>Pseudo Commie Cuban ghoul faction
>Creepy Southern mansions everywhere
>Pseudo Confederate Faction
>Hillbilly raiders
>Bluegrass radio station
This game practically writes itself.
>>334451802
>>334451857
>>334451875
>>334452075
>>334452092
>couldnt bring myself to shoot her
>just run away back to the elevator and sit there, thinking about what to do as i post in this thread
>eventually she stops attacking me and i can talk to her
it all worked out in the end bros
>>334452532
>She still leaves you for a life of hanging out with holograms
>You will never get your medicine to 101 to fix her scars
>You will never begin your own civilization in a slowly becoming cloudless madre
>Your children will never tell stories of their mighty father who single handedly killed off the ghost people
>>334452723
>that was easy
Good to see long lasting emotional trauma is easy to get over.
>>334430606
I usually bounce between joining the NCR, serving House all the way, and stabbing House in the back at the very end in order to hijack his scheme.
>>334452420
>implying he isn't happier working in the Boneyard, the Follower's HQ, as a doctor making a difference compared to bandaging up dumb savages in overpopulated anarchy with limited supplies
>>334453042
Arcade is a person who cares about helping people first, savages or not, he want's to help. And we also have no proof independent is anarchy.
So what backstory do you give your courier? I like to think it's the same protag from fallout 3 for some reason.
>>334453459
fuck that's actually completely credible
late 20s roamed around enough sure why the fuck not
>>334453459
A synth who made it all the way west with the help of the Railroad. Like Harkness, if he didn't stop in Rivet City.
>>334453601
>doc mitchell asks me the first thing that comes to my mind with mother
>always pick regret
>>334453459
Not a backstory really, but I play the same courier every time I start a NV play through.
10 luck, high agility, high charisma, decent intelligence, low strength, endurance, and medium perception.
I only use pistols. My followers can use whatever but I literally only use pistols and light armors.
Luck, charm, and smarts, my way through the Mojave.
I'm willing to work with just about anyone but i'll dick them over if there is an advantage to it.
The House always wins baby.
>>334453601
Several Speech options in the game allow you to reveal places you're character may have been, including New Reno and Montana of all places. It's highly possible for the FO3 protagonist to be the courier.
>>334453459
I just pretend my character is an amnesiac and go crazy, you have the option to say you don't know what fish are
![yeMRb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/60j3vD7.jpg "yeMRb[1].jpg")
is this chart accurate?
>>334454128
i can't read like half of these but NCR is lawful good and legion is neutral evil so it's complete bullshit
>>334432637
I second this. Tearing up the Mojave with the malpais Legate in full deus vult mode is great fun.
>>334454128
seems pretty accurate, but I think Brotherhood should also be true neutral, and Legion lawful evil,
>>334432679
I liked that change, they rationalize their heavy-handedness pretty well, if you actually side with them you find them politely trading with diamond city and holding down checkpoints on the roads.
That's one thing that 4 got right-you really feel like the wasteland outside of the immediate neighborhood of the major settlements is a total clusterfuck of very dangerous people and monsters, wheras New Vegas has a more poist-post-apocalyptic thing going on, just in a time of crisis.
>>334434992
pete you faggot, just admit you goofed with the lore,it's not THAT big of a deal. hell, it's even fixable,just change the spawns to only shti like buffout and mentats and edit the log.
>>334454682
>myron and his invention of jet has truly been forgotten, even by the writers themselves
>>334453459
>crazy ex enclave scientist
>always need to be high on stims or he turns rabid
>need a fix when he wakes up at doc mitchell's house
>kills doc mitchell
>name myself doc mitchell
>>334451487
AND IT FEELS
SO GOOD~
>>334454128
Nah, Brotherhood isn't evil, and I think you're giving the kings too much credit.
>>334455147
The King himself was pretty much Lawful Good, but Pacer was an asshole and the rest of them were delinquents with guns. It was an interesting contrast, really.
>>334449725
Don't forget the Minutemen will disregard your orders in the institute quest [Pinned] because they "didn't join the army". That insubordinate fool annoyed the hell out of me, does Killing him ruin your alliance with the Minutemen?
>>334455291
I doubt it, it would ruin "play it your way"
I wonder what the "canon" ending to the game is/was.
My personal vote is that it was the pure NCR ending.
Everything else would've had too large of an impact on the world not to hear it about it in Fallout 4.
>>334455478
Fuck Fallout 4, Vegas has a better story and shouldn't be lumped with that trash.
>>334455478
It's conspicuous that you hear nothing of the area, what ifthe NUKE EVERYONE ending of Lonesome Road is canon and both areas have all but died out by the time of Fallout 4? I would actually be slightly impressed at that, that's about as stark of an ending as you can have to the saga of the Mojave.
>>334455478
Considering how far and detached Boston is from the midwest, you're not gonna hear anything about anywhere else from there.
I'd say either Independant or House though. With House, pretty much nothing changes and Vegas is exactly as it should be.
But Independant would probably be canon because Obsidian knows you want your character to be powerful and that's probably what everyone picked.
>>334430606
I chossssssssse the New California Republic becausssssssssse the wasssssssteland needssssssssss inssssstitotional order to sssssssssssurvive
>>334453459
Grew up amongst soldiers of fortune, and similarly stuck to the path of killing whoever for whatever dictated reason. Incidentally causing the whole Divide debacle made him realize how far he'd been skirting the line of no return, and so he decided to live on from then as a figure of hope and perseverance - becoming a Certified Courier was the first among many planned steps towards redemption.
Having two bullets scramble his brain ultimately turned him into a madman so thoroughly obsessed with justice and the weight of sin that pretty much everyone shits their pants on the spot when he arrives at the scene.
>>334455805
Terrifying Presence at every opportunity, right?
New Vegas bounties was my favorite overall mod,even if the sound quality was uneven-so much fucking content and some surprisingly strong writing at times.
>>334454963
Why were those terminal logs in LR so good? Why couldn't there be more like these?
>>334455881
Damn straight, son.
>>334453459
Mine was a deserted NCR trooper who gave himself a new identity and tries to undo his sins by helping the local tribals any way he can
>>334455753
>With House, pretty much nothing changes and Vegas is exactly as it should be
This. House ending allows every "big" character to walk out alive--except the Brotherhood, which really, it isn't that big of a loss writting-wise. NCR's still around, House's still alive, Caesar's (most likely) still alive, so them appearing again in a secuel gives a lot more of writting potential than just Caesar or NCR being the kings of Vegas.
>>334456042
>the terminal entries in all the DLCs
I mean the Survivalist was great but stuff like the construction of the Sierra Madre and the experiments in the Big MT don't get enough credit.
>>334456243
That's only the Mojave branch, anyway, which was already dying a slow death.
>>334447185
And if you played the DLC you have the Horrific technology of big MT, an Arsenal of Nuclear weapons, several tribes of warriors who owe you a favor, and the ability to literally replicate ammunition and medicine
>>334453264
>And we also have no proof independent is anarchy
anarchy
[an-er-kee]
noun
1.
a state of society without government or law.
Did he mean the Commie Ghosts at the REPCONN building that flew to the Moon to paint a pink Lenin face on it?
>>334457462
>goes there
>courier kicks his ass
>courier steals life serum
>ohgoditshappening
>>334457016
I thought the securitrons and the courier acted as the law.
>>334457979
then it's not truly independent is it
>>334432679
So they went from a shitty ripoff of the Midwestern BoS to a slightly more accurate ripoff of the Midwestern BoS
Progress is progress, I guess
>>334457979
Yes Man and the Securitrons keep the peace by preventing all out war but each faction rules itself and deals with shit their own way
>>334453459
my favorite to do is a high ranking frumentariius who conspired with vulpes and lanius to kill caesar with the auto-doc.
>>334458125
If all goes well, we'll have some new territory in Texas in Fallout Lonestar,which Bethesda have hinted is going to be canon.
>>334432110
Pussy.
>>334430606
House is shit, Yes Man all the way you.
FUCK YOU KID, DO YOU KNOW WHO THE FUCK I AM? I'M THE FUCKIN
IRON MAN I WILL BOMB AND TAKE A SHIT ON YOUR DOORSTEP. YOU FUCKIN
PIECE OF TURD.
>>334439974
They worked their way up to gold reserves, but the power armored Jew blew up their reserves.
>>334440263
Boone is even less of a cuck than Jared and Jared is no cuck.
>>334442352
>farmers have no businesses running republics!
>come up against NCR
>not a bunch of backward tribals but a well supplied nation with a proper army
>still let the Malpais Legate lead the charge despite his only strategy being "charge the enemy, win because I'm fucking immortal"
>get mad when this inevitably fails
Caesar could be pretty dumb at times
>>334459390
>caeser's strategy boils down to charge them with machete's till death
How did this guy get this far?
>>334459549
The Legion follows the Roman army's example by opening a battle with the greenest soldiers and holding their more experienced men in reserve. If the recruits can't get the job done, they've at least softened the enemy up for the veterans to do their thing
>>334430606
To be fair ,House is the least volatile of all the factions. He is the safest bet
>>334459067
Jared is a fucking hero. I wish I could be like Jared.
>>334459549
>How did this guy get this far?
Not fighting an army where every soldier had rifles, grenades, and specialized squads of troops.
>>334459703
This is really not that good of an idea for long term war. It's based purely on numbers then. Once the soldiers run out the legion is screwed
>>334457727
No it's going to be
>goes there
>Lol ncr is in charge
>Lol house was an aylamo thats how he got his tech
>Lol go fight the legion with the help of the brotherhood.
>you can convince christine to let go
>you can tell her you'll take care of elijah for her
>you can tell her you'll come find her when it's all over
>you can't
it's always bitter sweet leaving that hell hole knowing i can never get closure with her
>>334457727
Wrong
>courier befriends the life serum
>they both kick his ass
>>334459859
Just like in modern times, war leaders fight the previous wars, not necessarily the new ones. It worked before and they still found success with the members of the 87 in their tribe and a pool of all males to pull soldiers from vs NCRs volunteer (I think) army.
>>334459067
You can tell from the way this person writes just how shitty a human being they are.
>>334459859
I can't remember if it's ever brought up in game but I wouldn't put it beyond Caesar to have a stock of slave women behind the lines whose entire purpose is to have children
Where the fuck do Steam screenshots go when you open the game with the 4gb loader
The overlay still works, the played timer increases and F12 still takes screenshots but they don't go to NV folder
>>334460268
The NCR has a draft, in fact it's one of the many, many, reasons their army has such low morale.
It's stated somewhere in game (although for the life of me I can't remember where) that the NCR military is much larger than the Legion, but they also have to patrol and control a much larger territory, whereas almost the entirety of the Legion's fighting strength is across the Colorado on Fortification Hill. The Legion boys are so motivated and well trained that they make up for their smaller numbers and technological inferiority.
It's also worth noting that, lore wise, the Legion are mostly fighting a hit-and-run guerilla war and not a stand up fight. They strike hard where the NCR is weak and retreat where they can't win. People also play up the "muh spearchuckers" meme when talking about the Legion. They have plenty of guns, they just give them to the veterans and not the greenhorn chucklefucks the Courier mostly encounters.
Caesar isn't an idiot, he even admits to the courier at one point that the Legion can't really defeat the NCR in a stand up fight, but they can weaken, subvert, demoralize, and prepare, for the day when they are strong enough to beat the NCR.
>>334463000
I fucking hate Bethesda
>>334463157
Don't be that way, anon
>>334463284
how does that even fucking work
>elemental damage
FUCKING BETHESDA
>>334452092
Maybe she's bi, anon. Can always just headcanon that.
>>334463510
Bi or not she spends the rest of her life sitting in the Sierra Madre Villa so it's not like anything could happen
>>334463427
No need to yell, anon
>>334463596
but then the handholding scene means something in its own context, right?
>>334463664
i never really saw it as a romantic thing, more of a trust/affirmation thing
>>334434992
fallout new vegas
>years after games release, /v/ still talks about it and discuses its story
fallout 4
>people almost stop talking about it. if they do, mostly to shit on it and argue the worst aspects of the game like the ending.
>>334457462
It really annoys me Bethesda keeps insisting on forcing lovecraft shit into Fallout. It fits about as well as the forth wall breaking pop-culture references in Fallout 2, but they keep doing it, even going so far as to tie a bunch of quests and shit to it in 3 and 4.
>>334463658
who's idea was to turn the game into bordermemes?
>>334463664
Doesn't she do it when she's still voiceless? It's the easiest way for her to show that she's bonded with you and trusts you
True Leader Tier
Independent
Stooge Tier
House
Weakwilled Liberal Tier
NCR
Edgy Tier
Legion
Emil Pagliarulo murdered WHEN?
Todd isn't the real enemy, Emil is
#freeTodd
>>334464092
Todd's still pretty involved with the creative process though so he's just as much to blame as Emil.
>think tank figured out there was a world outside the crater because of ulysses
GOOD JOB IDIOT
>>334465150
They wiped their own memories of it though
The real issue was that Mobius' plan gave them everything they needed to escape when they actually had someone capable enough to do it
>>334440413
Reads well in his voice
>you will never save humanity by oppressing it
