In retrospective, was it really that bad?
I mean, it thought it was pretty good as a sequel to Peace Walker.
The trailer was way better than the game.
Given all the lead up, the trailers, the scripted demos, all the lies Kojima told on Twitter, the game was just a slap in the face.
>>334383582
Gameplay and engine were god-tier, but the missions were very repetitive and the story was unfinished. Honestly, I blame Konami, not Kojima.
I think of Kojima had more control and more time, it would have been one of the greatest games ever made.
>>334383582
Ground Zeros was a better game, 5 was worse then 4
Stealth gameplay wasn't bad.
Hideo put a lot of work into Stef. but was too busy to work on a good story
>>334384784
Every day Hideo Kojima winds up happy clockwork doll Stefanie Joosten, Kojima takes the wind-up key and puts it in happy doll Stefanie's key slot and turns it to make her move, each turn of the wind-up key makes robot doll Stefanie giggle and jitter from the grinding and working of her ticking mechanical clockwork insides that fill her perfect automaton body. Happy silly cooing comes out of her perfect plastic doll lips and her shiny glass eyes light up with joy and cheerfulness from having her perfect mechanical doll robot body wound up by Kojima's hands. Then she gets up and goes about her day to please all of Kojima's fans with her perfect happy Stefanie doll face and clockwork Joosten toy body. Each of her moves brought by the grinding and ticking of the cogs and springs and gears and pulleys and all happy clockwork insides that fill her doll body. And all of Kojima's fans fall in love with her because she's a perfect happy robot Joosten doll and that makes Kojima happy, and nothing makes clockwork doll Stefanie Joosten happier than making Hideo Kojima and his fans happy with her smiley happy plastic face and perfect doll body. That's why she's the forever happy perfect and thoroughly mechanical Stefanie giggly robot doll.
>>334383582
>as a sequel to Peace Walker
Ground Zeroes was that. TPP wasn't a meaningful sequel or a meaningful prequel, it was just a standalone game about fucking around in the desert attaching balloons to stuff, with nanoparasites.
Ground Zeroes is MGSV, faggot.
>>334383582
Better than 1,2 and 4 at least.
That doesn't take much though.
>>334384461
>more time
He had 5 years and only managed to make half a game. Compare that to MGS4 which only took 3 years to make. How much more fucking time would you want him to have?
>>334383582
At least in PW every mission ties into the story. It felt like what you were doing was important, not just blow up some antennas so soldiers can't get porn in the desert.
I liked because I expected little from it.
3>1>V>2>PW>4
>>334383582
The game was done for me after chapter 1
Chapter 2 felt really awekward and forced. First mission available was one of the first missions in chapter one. Killed all of my enthusiasm left, but loved the controls, the stealth and the action elements. The story was decent too but I miss characters/bossfights like the pain or the end. Man on fire was decent
>>334385190
You know, I'd rather the side missions had some options like THAT. Everything is too fucking serious for me to care.
"BOSS, blow up the antennas to disrupt their communicationsblahblahblah."
Would've made side missions much more enjoyable if they fucked around a bit and had Miller showing some of his old self. I mean shit, the Hamburgers show that he still has some sense of humor.
>pretty good as a sequel to Peace Walker
>the plot is worse
>outer ops are worse, also unfinished
>gadgets are worse
>/k/ porn is nonexistent
>side ops are worse, also nonexistent
>bosses are no longer bulletsponges, instead, there are no fucking bosses
>cassette tapes are way worse
Yeah, sure.
Why are people complaining about Chapter 2 in TPP when PW did the same thing but worse?
>OMG Snake! Zadornov disappeared X7
>lmao fight MG Zeke now
So much for "Chapter" 5.
No, it was pretty good.
/v/ will praise this game by the time the next MG game comses out.
Where can I buy a robojoost?
Ground Zeros was an awesome prologue to a story that IMO ruins the story arch. I almost consider it non-head-canon in the same way I see MGR.
The gameplay is great and Big Boss looks awesome with a horn in his fucking face but the story goes absolutely no where and the end game is beyond fuckery.
What does Venom add to the series? He builds Outer Heaven while bigboss does something? And he dies in MG1? Whats the point? Big Boss could be one person and do all that shit. Its what we assumed before.
>>334385164
He also didn't want to make the damn thing
How people can put PW, GZ or V above the rest of the franchise is mind boggling to me.
They have the weakest presentations, plot, level design, and boss fights. Sure the gameplay is solid but everything becomes dull.
>>334385479
The Quiet boss fight is one of the best in the series but thats literally it. The Parasites suck and so does salalalathropist.
>>334385752
Because they're good? Take the nostalgia goggles off.
MGS2 and 4 are shit. 1 and 3 are great. PW and V are good.
>>334385487
Thats kind of a shitty comparison.
On one hand you have a handful of silly hide-and-seek missions and a crazy, out of place boss fight; and on the other hand you have a completely butchered and unfinished 2nd half of a game.
>>334385963
>The Quiet boss fight is one of the best
The Parasite Snipers I'll give you but why Quiet?
>>334385772
>Big Boss could be one person and do all that shit. Its what we assumed before.
No, it was a big plothole why BB was alive in MG2
Thanks god at least Venom can cover that spot.
i can rest in peace, even if the game is shit for everyone, for me is a case closed.
>>334385963
The Quiet fight is literally just The End fight on a new engine though.
>>334385963
>The Quiet boss fight is one of the best in the series
how to spot someone who hasn't played MGS1 through 4
being an asshole aside, I absolutely fucking disagree, she goes down in two easy headshots and the fight is over
it's downright fucking pathetic compared to the likes of Vamp, Ocelot, Fatman, any boss from three or one really, etc etc.
>>334386079
Actually the parasite snipers are good too. I love quiet but I was using the traq pistol and it made it more tense.
It felt extremely generic.
Just like any other open world game.
>>334383582
The game is pretty average, which places it as shit compared to the viral marketing campaign and trailers.
Weakest story in MGS, although the presentation was pretty good. The gameplay is very repetitive.
>>334386059
Dude I know robojoosts are great but it has nothing to do with nostalgia.
chill
>>334386195
The End fight is so much more complicated it's not even fucking funny, how can you even compare the two.
I get that both are supposed to be sniper duels but they're like heaven and earth in comparison.
>>334386072
>silly hide and seek missions
you mean repetitive and shitty missions with no story relevance other than
>lol I was buying Paz time
>>334383582
Best gameplay of the series, but the disjointed and disappointing story brings it down.
>>334386079
>>334386247
>"you can just run past the enemy" fight
>good
>>334386271
>weakest story in MGS
that's 4
at least V didn't make me cringe all the time
>>334386235
Whatever m8. The only one I never played extensively is PO
>>334386059
>3 great
out of the first 3 games its the one with the most flaws
>>334383582
I enjoyed it, but it isn't a good as Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, and 3, but better than portable ops, 4, and peace walker.
>>334384945
So accurate it disturbs me.
>>334386235
>2 and 4
>good boss fights
>>334386323
The Ends fight was only more complicated due to its different locations. If they were all together into one location, they would be the exact same.
>sit and hide
>look for the sparkle from the sniper scope
>headshot and repeat
>>334386323
The End is a master peace. Quite is just pretty fun.
>>334386235
those boss fights were terrible especially Ocelot
>>334386059
>Because they're good?
Far Cry V was far removed from the word "good"
>>334386432
I'll take campy tone with an expansive and dramatic story over super serious tone with nothing to back it up.
The FOX engine seemed to enable a lot more cool shit, however the increased flexibility has made the game much easier in spite of higher guard counts
I just wish they would make a VR mission pack and even allow custom missions.
>>334386518
accurate?
>>334386339
>you mean repetitive and shitty missions with no story relevance other than
At least PW waited till the end of the game to do that, MGSV had you doing those missions right off the bat.
It's worse than 1,2 and 3.
It's better than Portable Ops, 4 and Peace Walker.
Overall I was satisified with. I can't really complain when I played more than 300 hours.
>>334384945
Don't post this anymore.
>>334386059
>MGS2 is shit
Yeah , Opinion discarded.
The story was weak as fuck no question there,but for the first time it didn't fucking matter
The gameplay was actually good for once to stand on its own Insead of relying on it's story to pick up the slack
>>334386407
The Parasite Snipers at least provide some semblance of a challenge on the Extreme version of the mission unless you abuse reflex.
Quiet is a piss easy version of The End.
>>334386432
>at least V didn't make me cringe all the time
You clearly didn't play the game then.
>>334386573
Have you ever played an actual mediocre or bad game?
No? Then shut the fuck up. It's a great game. One of the best of 2015.
>>334386771
>Have you ever played an actual mediocre or bad game?
Yes. MGSV.
>>334386608
4 was just pure shit
>le fart jokes
>drebin
>B&B
>nanomachines
>meryl/johnny
worst game and worst story
>>334386738
>bring in a tank
>drive past all the snipers
>challenge
Kojima gave us the players too much freedom and options in the game.
Engine was pretty good, looked good as well.
Enemy AI was shit, even for Metal Gear. I'm honestly surprised how bad they were; most of the time they just stand in one place and shoot, no cover whatsoever.
The open world gameplay added NOTHING to the game, just busywork; Side Ops were terrible as well, with all of them being "Fulton this shit".
Story was shit too, especially for Metal Gear.
>>334386896
Fair enough. Tanks are pretty much the shortcut to S ranks.
>>334386653
Jealous because the Joost only acknowledges Kojima as her true master?
>tfw fox engine will never be used for anything else
AS I BECOME MORE PRESENT NOW
>>334387002
there's pro evo
>>334385963
I wouldn't say best in the series, but the Quiet boss fight had the best setup in MGS:V, and replaying it in the Extreme mission was hands down the best fight in the whole game. One shot is instant death and she's right on you the whole time. Running and ducking behind cover, throwing decoys and calling in resupply drops on her possible position to distract her long enough to get to a different spot. Just great. If the whole game could have been as tense as that, it would have been perfect.
>>334386879
Fart jokes have been in every MGS since MGS1.
Ocelot was pretty much the equivalent of Drebin in MGSV.
The equivalent of the B&B Unit in MGSV doesnt exist, because MGSV didnt even have bosses.
NANOMACHINE equivalent in MGSV is PARASITES.
Meryl/Johnny is just like Venom/Quiet.
It was great if, like me, you had assumed Kojima's storytelling abilities flew the coop a decade ago and just wanted to see peace walker's cool gameplay ideas given the hardware muscle and budget they deserved.
That said, the story WAS really disappointing because the trailers made it seem so damn cool.
Personally for me, mgs=mgs2=mgs3>mgsv>pw>4
>people still being salty about not playing as muh snake on MGS2
truly the best in the series.
>run into Quiet the first time
>go into cover and find where she's hiding
>call in an airdrop and instantly knock her out with a box
>proceed to pick her up and throw her over and over again to see her boobs shake
Shame you couldn't drag knocked out characters anymore. In MGS2 during the escort missions I would knock out Emma and put her in a boston crab to pass the time.
>>334383582
It was pretty fun. Quiet and D-Dog are god tier buds.
Miller was a buzzkill.
Huey still a shit
MGS story hasn't made sense in fucking decades, so who cares. It at least tried to fill in some glaring potholes.
>>334387539
DON'T BULLY QUIET!
>>334385772
This. I'd have been more happy with unnecessary fan wank like meeting sniper wolf for the first time (which would have made sense given the timeline and setting) or meeting gray fox for the first time (which also would have made sense given the timeline and setting). Instead he ruined the entire story just for a shitty twist, just like he did 30 other times throughout the course of 4
It's an 8/10 for me.
+Better gameplay than all past games except maybe 3
+Great graphics, great art direction, well optimized
+Fantastic soundtrack
+It has the best themes in any Metal Gear game
+Second chapter is full of emotional scenes
+Less cutscenes that aren't full of exposition
+Casette tapes instead of codec calls
+Good voice acting, especially Downes as Kaz
-Story execution is not very good, it has a lot of pacing problems and is unfinished
-Open world adds nothing to the game
-Enemy AI is worse than in GZ
-Quiet had an awful VA
The biggest dissapointment of my life.
First time I ever preorderd a videogame
Never again.
Fuck you Kojimmers. and fuck you Konami , You bunch of hacks.
>>334387256
Same as you.
>>334387574
Oh amendment.
There was no "unit" to fight. Just Quiet.
I was waiting for a man on fire fight, and was pumped. Then I was waiting for a skull face fuckhead fight. Then code talker. Then I had hope for psycho jr form.
>>334387790
>Quiet had an awful VA
those are nasty sour grapes you got
>>334387790
>Fantastic soundtrack
>It has the best themes in any Metal Gear game
what soundtrack? other than sins of the father and the 80's music, what was there?
>>334387790
>Fantastic Soundtrack
>Best themes any MGS games
>Emotional Cutscenes
>Casette tapes being good
Excuse me , did you actually play the fucking game?
I dont recall any soundtrack of the game other than the songs that aren´t not even original score for the game. but licensed music made by other people.
Sins of the father was so poorly executed in the game that i ruined the whole imapct of the song.
There were no emotional cutscenes other than Kazuhira´s moment at the trial.
>He likes casettes instead of cutscenes
Jesus.
Kaz and Huey were the only interesting characters that kept the game going. If it wasn´t for them i would´ve dropped it before the first half of the 1st chapter.
>>334386627
If mgsv ever becomes moddable in any meaningful sense, it's be new vegas tier. Given how easy it was to design levels based on that preview, if the community got a hold of the tools the game might just be a gotyay (especially since you know that pathetic cuck David H8r would jump at any opportunity to provide voice work for a half decent mod)
>>334388082
Her accent is absolutely horrendous man.
>>334383582
Yes, it's a great sequel to Peace Walker. No more bullet sponge tank boss fights, you can go around your base and talk to your soldiers, story isn't about "muh boss", you can use the vehicles you fulton instead of just using them in outer ops.
However, PW is shit compared to other MGS games and it could be kinda excused by it being on PSP. TPP took PW and built upon it instead of being more like the older games.
>>334388034
>Skull Face fight
would it even work? anyone from DD could kill that shithead desu
>>334388082
Joosten sucks as a Voice Actor.
Sorry anon , but she sounded so silly and out of place. Like her character which added nothing to the game.
I dont even get how she is a model at all. She´s not that pretty.
Fucking Kojimbo and his raging boner ruined the game.
>>334386627
subsistence and full stealth for all 50 missions when?
>>334388157
It's Dutch.
Dutch is like retardo-German.
>>334388306
I know. I'm Dutch myself. Fuck Dutch accents.
>>334388236
>Not wanting to fight a metal gear piloted by skullface or a melodramatic fist fight in the middle of wreckage on fire.
Cmon now son, do you even metal gear?
>>334388259
Joost and Quiet are definitely out of place. But in a good way.
>>334385479
>no bosses
Quiet
Man on Fire
Sahelanthropus
you don't post about video games you haven't played to fit in on an anonymous image board, do you?
>>334383582
Gameplay alone, it's the best game ever. That's it.
But there's other stuff, such as story, which sucked
Regardless, it earns a spot in my top 10 games of the 2010's, so far.
>>334388098
>>334388127
A Phantom Pain
V has come to
Beautiful mirage( both of them)
the first and last words
return
disarmament
snails
afghanistan's a big place
stop being shitheads
>no emotional scenes
The Paz scenes.
Shining Lights.
Huey's trial
Final Quiet scene
Also, I just like casette tapes more. Never liked codecs and how intrusive they were. Being able to listen to shit when I want to is better.
>>334388556
>Man on Fire
>boss fight
I want a Metal Gear Rising set in the 80s with Quiet as the MC and a goofier artstyle.
Do you think it can be achieved without being boring?
>>334388556
>Man on fire boss fight
>equip the water gun thinking I'll be a smart ass and beat him with it
>use water gun
>no effect
>maybe you just need to really pump him full of water
>keep using it
>get a codec call saying water guns are a good idea, but they won't work
>switch to regular weapons and start blowing up water tanks
>look it up online
>water guns do work, you're just supposed to ignore all the signs saying they don't work
I was a bit pissed.
>>334388846
yes
The game was amazing. People just seem to hate it because the cutscenes weren't long enough
>>334388875
shit taste.
no
>>334388875
GZ is literally only a portion of TPP in terms of gameplay. And 4 is just a bad game period
>>334388556
Lets compare.
>MGS1
Ocelot
Cyborg Ninja
Psycho Mantis
Sniper Wolf
Hind-D
Sniper wolf on the snowfield
Vulcan Raven
MG.REX
Liquid
Im not counting the tank of mini enemie encounters.
>MGS2
Olga at the Tanker
Fatman
Harrier
Vamp (not counting the oil fence encounter)
MG Ray
Solidus
>MGS3
Ocelot
The Pain
The Fear
The End
The Fury
Volgin
Shagohod
The Boss
>implying im gonna count the sorrow
>>334388940
and because it was well received by critics.
/v/ only likes things are arent popular and Soulsshit
>>334388646
true that, I agree
>>334385164
Wasn't half that time the engine and three maps? I'm not saying he wasn't at fault, but it's not like the last year wasn't rushed, either.
>>334384945
Did Rafe15 write this, or something?
>>334388646
>Quiet´s Outtro
>Emotional
I can´t remember any song from MGSV unlike songs earlier games ,MGSPW Included
>>334389049
There's no denying that there's a shortage of boss fights but I don't mind because infiltrating enemy encampments without being seen and with reflex off is lots of fun.
>>334389049
And now let's count the good ones.
>1
all of them, best bosses in the series
>2
Vamp, the rest are shit
>3
The End
The Boss
>4
None, every single one is shit exceptOcelotbut he's not a real boss.
>PW
none
>V
Quiet but she's The End 0.5
>>334383582
Of course not. The perception was ruined by newfags who rushed through the 1-4 + PW last summer. On /v/ at least, I watched it happen.
>>334389240
Nope. It's just the truth, written in the most neutral and matter-of-factly way possible.
>>334383582
Did someone think it was bad?
>>334389243
really? MGS4 and V have my favorite OSTs.
>>334389441
Every MGS thread on /v/ was dominated by a vocal group of shitposters
>>334389441
Yeahit's far from bad
>>334389349
>3
>not counting Volgin cage fight nor Ocelot revolver duel
>>334385772
In my opinion, this builds big boss as a shady background player. A puppetmaster, and a puppet. He has two sides, one being metaphorical and another being literal. His reflection literally has come to life.
But that's just my silly interpretation that someone will probably call stupid and call me a kojimadrone. I don't think that was his intention completely, just concepts loosely connected.
>>334389349
>>PW
>none
Paz is pretty good in my opinion.
>>334389665
>Ocelot revolver duel
It's piss easy and boring.
>Volgin
nothing good about his boss fight
>>334389349
>all of them, best bosses in the series
wow take off those goggles bro
It's literally the most disappointing experience in my entire life. It sounds pathetic but the shittiness of this game genuinely affected my well being.
>>334385797
Actually that's wrong, this is the first mgs since 1 where he didn't have to be coerced into doing it. He wanted to make this one, and it still turned out to be the worst one.
>>334383582
It wasn't bad, but it could've been so much more
>>334389801
Have you played those on European Extreme?
>not beating Volgin barehanded
Best feeling after all that shit he put me through
>>334385963
>>334386079
>any of the boss fights in phantom pain being good
Kill yourselves.
>>334383582
>In retrospective, was it really that bad?
Lets break it down this way instead.
>Was it a good game?
It was decent.
>Was it a good MGS?
It was not
>Did it live up to what it was marketed as?
It was possibly the biggest disappointment in gaming this side of 2010
>>334389785
Sorry, I forgot about the Zeke fight.
>>334389834
>hype game as the second coming of christ
>disappointed when it's not that
you did that to yourself, fag
>>334389967
It was a fantastic game though
>>334388556
>man on fire
>stand in pool of water
>chuck a single grenade behind him, blasts him into the pool
>"AMAZING GREAT JOB BOSS THAT'S WHY YOU'RE THE BEST" FOXHOUND RANK
>>334386505
Don't forget Big Boss got killed by Solid Snake with no weapons except for a lighter and a can of deodorant.
>>334386179
no it wasnt a fucking plothole, they already explained that he was saved with cybernetics, MGSV is a retcon
>>334389935
I did. It's just that Volgin is my least favorite MG character.
>>334389967
but it was a fantastic game, only this shithole of a board hates it
>>334383582
I liked it at the time, but looking back I have no desire to ever play it again.
>>334388236
Skullface could've killed The Boss and the entire Cobra Unit. That's why he was following Big Boss during Snake Eater, because if Big Boss fucked up he would've finished the mission.
Honest unbiased review that most people can probably agree on:
>Gameplay and stealth felt 3000% more fluid (i.e. less clunky) than all of the previous games
>Story had a lot of potential; everything fits in well with the timeline in a pretty cool way, to be honest. But the execution was shitty and poorly paced.
>Venom not being Big Bosswas a letdown and seemed unnecessary for all the trouble to make everything fit with the story
>mother base management is stupid and monotonous and detracts from the experience
>story felt weird and unfinished because it WAS unfinished. It just sort of... ends. Big letdown.
>Constant sense of cash-grab microtransactions everywhere
>some of the gameplay elements like the air strikes and fulton extractions are silly kojima cheese that veteran players are used to but new players wouldn't expect, in a bad way. Granted, it isn't as goofy as the Gekko from MGS4
>The fact that there are so many actual infiltrations compared to the other games is great. Instead of a few cool base infiltrations, you get bombarded with stealth missions, even though they are mostly just "extract the prisoner", etc.
>>334390290
He was pathetic desu.
Pretentious to the end.
>>334390343
I agree.
>>334389978
>>hype game as the second coming of christ
>>disappointed when it's not that
>you did that to yourself, fag
The game very easily could have been. Everything that was shown in the trailers was building up to be GOAT. Kojima could've crafted a balling story, he already did with the fucking trailers. Yes, this game very easily could've EXCEEDED my expectations, and Kojima would have known how to because he purposefully edited the trailers in a way to tell an interesting story. So Kojima was fully aware of how the story of this game could've gone, but decided to do this retarded Reddit-tier parasite storyline instead. And that Medic Snake. Jesus.
>>334383582
gameplay was excellent
online was excellent
the story shat the bed. if it was kojimas goal to make me feel a phantom pain where my metal gear should be, he has succeeded
>>334390628
>online was excellent
Top kek mate. Shit sucks.
>>334389935
>the patriot
>volgin dies like a bitch, never even has a chance
much more satisfying to me. now he knows how it feels to be helpless. only thing that could have made it more satisfying would be the ability to shoot his eye out
>>334389950
>tpp
>boss fights
i dont know if id call large groups of super strong bullet sponge enemies boss fights, anon
>>334390796
>i dont know if id call large groups of super strong bullet sponge enemies boss fights, anon
I'm with you but the many Kojima dick suckers in this thread seem to think otherwise.
>>334390576
everything that was in the trailers was in the game
>>334391016
Some parts were heavily edited to the extend that they're just not recognizable or even moderately the same though.
>>334389978
>>334390013
>Repetitive mechanics
>Grinding
>Open world added nothing, could be construed as detracting from the game
>Stupid by MGS Standards story
>Horrible pacing
>boring bosses
>2/3 complete
>No ending
>Dumb "twist"
>>334391016
This meme needs to stop.
>>334390867
>bullet sponges
those were the PW bosses family
>>334383582
No. The gameplay and the missions were fine, game is fun to play. Especially if you go for all the mission goals and going for an S-rank(except for the "listen to all the conversations" goals, fuck those they don't even work half the time). On the other hand:
>Skullface's role
>John's role
>Venom's lack of dialogue, making the switch from Hayter unnecessary
>The story's overall insignificance to the series
>removed and unfinished content
>lack of continued support
>cheating online with no anti-cheats
>repeating events
>repeating missions
The big one for me is how most of the missions have no significance to the story of the game. Compare it to Peace Walker. Every single mission is a small piece of the story. You're going to rescue a new team member, infiltrating a base, tracking down an enemy, etc. In Phantom Pain most of the missions are you doing mercenary work. It only connects to the story in minor ways if you delve into the dialogue. They could have done WAY better with that.
>>334391150
>skulls
>metal gear sally
>not bullet sponges
>>334391102
>parroting /v/
fuck off
The game got shoved out the door so abruptly that they didn't even have time to bullshit a proper ending into the game, it just kinda awkwardly cuts off.
>>334391205
That's because Kojimbo wanted it to feel like a TV show lmao
>people ACTUALLY hate this game
this is probably one of the more fun games I've played this gen. I don't get tired of trying to stealth my way through a base or go loud when I fuck up
Everything is constant meticulous planning and scouting, which a lot of games don't really do anymore
You are not punished if you fuck up, but expect heavier resistance from the enemy, which is pretty awesome cuz it adapts to your playstyle
the story is pretty dope and I don't have to sit and twiddle my thumbs for five hours when I just ;listen to the story on cassette tapes while playing
And you get to play as Venom Snake, probably the most alpha Snake who just killed people and had no personal problems. He just fucked and killed and had a based dog and horse. He also ran a zoo
MGSV is a great game
>>334391416
>kojima drones doing mental gymnastics to trick themselves into thinking phantom pain was anything other than dog shit
Truly pathetic.
>>334391416
There's this key on the keyboard that denotes the end of a sentence. It's called the period key. It's next to the comma and the forward slash. You actually do not need to use two newlines whenever you want to indicate you're finished with your sentence!
>>334383582
It wasn't necessarily bad, it was just really disappointing if you were following the game since release and through all of the trailers. I can still watch this and get chills, but the game that was delivered to us fell incredibly short.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03nUMw7japI
>>334391532
>hey you're opinion is different from mine, you must some kind of brainwashed moron
Tell me friend, what's dog shit about the game?
>>334391532
>he's a faggot who hates games just to fit in
MGSV was great, like it or not.
>>334391102
Grinding is only bad if the mechanics used for it are bad. V has really well done shootan mechanics so the grinding just comes down to more excuse to play a good shooter, which is good. Everything else about the story pacing comes down to the fact that having highly scripted set pieces like the hospital would hurt replayability and would stick out in a game that's meant to be replayed. I'll admit that the story was a bit limp, but it sets the stage perfectly for what amounts to the end game.
And if it feels repetitive change up your loadout now and again
I had more fun with it than with any other game in the past four years.
>>334391532
>omg dude you hate mgsv too?
>yeah dude it feels great to be part of the hivemind lamo
>>334391745
>>334391760
>>334391932
Millennials detected.
It's the single odd game in the Metal Gear franchise. Even MGS4 is a better metal gear game for all its flaws.
>>334383582
I'd forgotten. I'd finally forgotten.
And now you made me remember.
Fuck you OP.
>>334391598
Did. I. Trigger. Your. Autism?
>>334391416
>no personal problems
anon...
>>334391972
Fuck off contrarian piece of shit.
>>334392004
No, you triggered my attentionwhore detector.
>>334391972
...so I'm not gonna get an answer as to why it's a bad game?
It's an extremely good spin-off. I'd be really satisfied if there was MGS5 coming.
But as a mainline game it's a fucking joke in terms of the plot.
>you will never be on /v/ when we were all getting hyped for MGS4
>you will never experience MGS4 for the first time with /v/ bros
>tfw you were here to cried about the huge disappointment that's MGSV with everyone here
>>334392083
No big boss going nuclear
>Goes to Metal Gear wiki
>looks up Big Boss
>sees all the cool ass shit that happens between Peace Walker and MG1
>watches MGSV trailers
>expects a blood diamond/child soldier plot and introduction to the Outer Heaven guys from MG1/2, revisiting grey fox, eva, others.
>none of that in the game
>meet liquid and mantis but adds nothing meaningful to their storylines.
>save the world from nano machines
>was never playing as Big Boss anyway.
MGSV had alot of potential and Kojima made a boring story out of it.
>>334385424
More snatcher missions where in the end you Fulton the main characters from snatcher(forgotten the names) with a d walker with the paint scheme of MK-II.
More missions like the heli assault from GZ. Better base layout with more indoor areas.
That is all this needed
Chapter 2 was just straight up awful
>>334392172
>muh headcanon
he did though
>>334391313
>parroting /v/
Gee fagtron it's almost like we played the same game or something
>>334392239
It was good but short.
Fuck you.
>>334392265
apparently not
>>334392265
>anime image
opinion discarded
>>334392019
Unless I missed something, Venom Snake was literally brainwashed to Big Boss and was fine with it.
Unless you mean the hallucinations, that aren't technically his?
>>334386505
>does not speak kikongo
Everytime
>>334392494
>implying Smug Anime Girl isn't the pinnacle of rebuttals
>>334392336
It was paced like bullshit. All over the place. And a lot of the missions were shit.
>>334392261
Yeah, he saved a couple of black children, tried to raise Liquid like his own son, tried to save Quiet and saved Emmerich. If you didn't use a lethal weapon the only """bad""" thing you do is killing Skull Face.
Venom Snake went angelic.
>>334392336
Mission 32:Extract some random fag
Mission 33:Repeat mission
Mission 34:Repeat Mission
Mission 35:Extract some retarded containers
Mission 36:Repeat mission
Mission 37:Repeat mission
Mission 38:Find a fucking film
Mission 39:Repeat mission
Mission 40:Repeat mission
Mission 41:Back up back down 2
Mission 42:Repeat mission
Mission 43:One of the best moments in the Metal Gear series
Mission 44:Repeat mission
Mission 45:The only snake in Afghanistan bites Venom and Quiet dies, literally the laziest way to get rid of a character
Mission 46:Repeat mission + interesting plot twist
Mission 47:Repeat Mission
Mission 48:Repeat mission
Mission 49:Repeat Mission
Mission 50:Repeat mission
Yeah, it was shit. It was fucking garbage.
>>334392790
It was paced that way because it includes doing side-ops and FOB missions. Part of the story is about the day to day operation of DD
>>334392910
nice meme post.
The repeated missions are neat in how they change up the core gameplay, and they're designed to be replayable given the large amount of freedom you have in tackling them
and going nuclear doesn't mean killing younglings all the time
>>334386505
>>334392923
Doesn't make it better.
Gameplay is good but it basivally has no story and the open world makes it a drag. Should have gone linear. And had an ending.
>>334393042
>nice meme post
Nice fucking argument.
>The repeated missions are neat in how they change up the core gameplay, and they're designed to be replayable given the large amount of freedom you have in tackling them
Shit like subsistence should be available as a modifier, not a mission.
>and going nuclear doesn't mean killing younglings all the time
So what does it mean? Because Venom Snake DID LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG. NOTHING.
>>334392910
You don't have to do repeat missions, retard.
>>334386896
>bringing a tank
>not easily climbing the rock next to the waterfall and walking past it without any confrontation
>a new breed of stealth
>>334384461
>don't blame kojima
5 years and $80 mil.
>>334393263
I know but that doesn't change anything. Still chapter 2.
>>334393391
But they're not part of chapter 2.
>>334392910
Pretty sure Venom Snake went nuclear when he developed a nuclear weapon.
>>334393496
Yes, they are.
>main mission
>fulton 2 containers
Reee
>>334393521
They're just bonus missions that are unlocked as you progress through Chapter 2.
>>334393509
developing a nuke is optional.
>>334384989
GZ is cut content that kojima had to release cause he was already overtime and over budget
>>334392923
>I feel Shit-Eater Simulator 2016 was a really good game. It truly nailed the day to day realities of being someone who eats nothing but shit.
>complaining about missions being repetitive when you have all the freedom in the world
not the game's problem your fags aren't creative. I had a very good time with /v/.
>>334386505
venomfaggot leave
It would've been god tier if GZ wasn't a thing and it included mission 51
Prove me wrong
>>334383582
It wasn't bad. It just could've been a whole lot better had Konami not rushed the development of the game and fired Kojima.
>>334393376
Which they made back in the first weekend if konami wasn't fucking retarded they would have made dlc missions.
>>334394373
No one complains about Liquid fucking off with Ray in MGS2.
GZ has unresponsive controls compared to TPP.
>>334383582
If you though shit walker was good after raping big boss then we all know why you liked it. Shit taste
>>334392910
Same exact reasons why peace walker blew
>>334394513
I mean that TPP would've been better if GZ wasn't sold as a separate game
>>334394373
mission 51 wouldn't have fixed anything. Just explain away a plot point that doesn't matter.
If GZ didn't exist, TPP would look better by comparison I suppose, since GZ was pretty much what TPP would have looked like if it was good, but TPP still would have sucked just as hard without anything better to compare it to.
>>334394762
You're right.
3 > 1 > 2 > 4 > PW > V
>>334383582
Kojima's true calling is in advertising because he knew how to keep me hyped for nearly three years and it was such a let down
>>334392083
>...so I'm not gonna get an answer as to why it's a bad game?
Read the fucking thread, moron.
>>334394989
3=V=1=2=PW>4>PO
>>334394783
>mission 51 wouldn't have fixed anything. Just explain away a plot point that doesn't matter
Some kids have a fucking gundam but that's not important
>>334394989
>>334395092
holy shit these are shit opinions
MGS2>MGS1>MG2>MGS3>PW>MG>MGS4>MGSV
>>334395352
why is it always the MGS2fags that get extremely asshurt whenever someone dares to not list their favorite game as the best
>>334395352
>4 better than anything
no
>>334395473
MGS1 or 2 are the only acceptible answers for best in the series. >>334395490
at least 4 made me feel some kind of emotion. Anger and laughter are better than emptiness and disappointment.
>miller and ocelot knew the whole time from day one
>afghanistan is ocelots area of operations but since he's working for big boss he let's massive medic operate there
>africa is millers area with 3 different PMC's working there
>ocelot fucking with huey even though ocelot was working with skully as a double agent
>miller fucking with huey even though he was working with skully to kill kikongo
huey seriously did nothing wrong during the game, only before and after this game
>>334395079
>Kojima made a shit game!
>story is shit!
>overhyped; didn't play as big boss
>gameplay is repetitive!
That's all I read and I replied with>>334391416, just got a bunch of shitposting
There's really nothing bad with the game, it gave you the reins on how to paint the legend of big boss, which is in itself pretty cool
3>2>PeaceWalker>4>Ground Zeroes>1>Phantom Pain.
My enjoyment also comes from replay value.
>>334395910
You're kinda right
One of my complaints for MGSV is that has 0 replay value
>>334393665
but the end of mgs1 says in 1984 a fuck loaf of nukes were developed (tpp player base is responsible for this)
>>334394315
>allows English strain to run free twice
Didn't saw that one coming.
>>334395668
3 is better than 2 though...
>>334395801
Huey's arc was pretty much the only decent thing in the story to be quite honest.
>>334392163
I was here when MGS4 was hype as fuck and I am here when MGS5 is disappointment as fuck.
Metal Gear Rex vs Metal Gear Ray, that whole Shadow Moses Island chapter of MGS4 gives me a raging nostalgia boner.
>>334397029
Zelda cycle in action lol
>>334395170
>they have a gundam
>a psychic kid controlled by such a lust
>a kid with such a lust
>a parasite that could wipe out the English
Yeah Diamond Dogs, just sit there taking care of you zoo, no big deal.
It's the best Metal Gear.
Gameplay is king, faggots..
I regret buying the $30 strategy guide.
>beat game
>do NG+ with all the new shit they added (basically only the carbine wu pistol)
>run through the game like hot knife through butter
I fucking wish konami would make DLC where you play as quiet and ocelot since you can already do that in multiplayer
if they can make ford commercials they can make DLC
>>334398789
Konami and Konima should've at least had the decency of putting total stealth and substance as an option for all missions possible.
>>334389967
what was a bigger disappointment pre 2010 then?
>>334383582
That's exactly what it was. It was a great Peace Walker 2. But in no way should it have been a main tittle
