http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-04-15-some-people-are-upset-the-new-mirrors-edge-locks-abilities-behind-xp-upgrades
Welp, there she goes. I didn't expect anything and I'm still disappointed.
>2016
>unironically buying or caring about EA games
You may need brain surgery.
Wellp I kept hope throughout this point but that's a nail in the coffin.
Dropped
>YOU HAVE TO BUY QUICK TURN
What the FUCK
>>334381395
http://archive.is/uRRiV
>>334381730
You fucking WHAT?
Jesus Christ
>how about we take everything out of the first game and lock it behind an exp bar
>Brilliant!
>>334381548
This begs the question: is EA worse than Blizzard? Surely they have a better track record considering Blizzard haven't made a good game in ten years.
With EA you lose
I knew it was only a matter of time. Fuck EA.
>>334381917
Yes. EA is the rock bottom. Blizzard is on its way.
>>334381395
>unlocks
>combat focus
>cinematic experience
just kill it with fire
>>334381901
This is the exact problem. I don't like the idea, but an experience system isn't completely game ruining, but we're gonna be losing basic things that were just intuitive actions, and not abilities. Quick turning is not like Samus using Morph Ball.
what have they done?
it's sad to see a corpse like this still shambles on
>The defining features of ME1 were its tight level design and fluid movement system
>Make the game open world and force the player to play through missions to unlock basic features you already had
Thanks EA
I'm already denying Crysis 2, DA2 and ME3 ever existed, I won't have an issue with denying this turd too.
>>334381730
>this ability isn't inherent like in the original, it's an optional upgrade
>level designers have to keep in mind that areas must be possible if the player doesn't buy this ability
>it's likely that level design will therefore not incorporate this ability at all, or only on side paths
I was looking forward to this game, too.
>>334381395
So, new rpg mechanics huh?
Ok... didn't need them, but whatever
lol what a piece of shit game
I hope none of you didn't see this coming a mile away though.
>EA
>wont be able to do this without grinding for hours on end to get arbitrary skills that enable you to do something as basic as lifting your legs
Anyone who supports this shit game deserves cancer.
>>334381917
Are you fucking retarded?
EA has turned literally anything it has gotten its hands on in the last 25 years to complete and utter shit. They do questionably legal things all the time leading to them being taken to court and successfully sued four times in the last decade or so.
There is no other games company that comes anywhere close to the degenerate faggotry that EA does.
>>334381730
fuck this gay earth
fuck you EA
fuck you
>>334382002
And the best part is that they have Anita as the scapegoat if this game ends up being complete ass, fucking brilliant move EA.
>>334382168
>a skill tree is RPG mechanics
>>334382206
C&C3 was surprisingly good.C&C4 was below dogshit though.
You know whats the next step? Yes, preorder bonus abilities
>>334381395
Day 1 buy
>>334381395
Fuck you Ubishit for making this mechanic popular in modern AAA.
And fuck Blizzard for starting the popularity of skinner boxes in gaming.
I can't even get over her stupid fucking face so I don't even care. Not gonna buy anyway.
How long until they reveal a crafting system
>>334381395
>>334381730
>ea shills will defend this
>>334381917
Only thing EA hasn't screwed up yet is FIFA.
>>334382160
>all that
wow it's really going to be ahit then huh?
>>334382254
Okay, so I was playing fast and loose with what mechanics go in what genre. The skill tree system still sees ridiculous amounts of proliferation throughout modern games, and if they wanted progression, they could have done something different
>>334382367
>Scavenging scraps of rubber, string, and various canvas and fabrics
>Finding blueprints
>All to make shoes and sweatpants
Mildy amusing thought
>>334382241
EA literally released a statement saying Anita has never worked on Mirror's Edge in any capacity. I wish people would quit parroting this stupid debunked rumor and focus on what's actually bad about the game and company behind it.
Why would anything nice ever happen?
>>334381730
What's a matter - too lazy to earn your fun?
>>334381395
>Gear upgrades allow you to things such as disrupt AI drones and gain access to the magline - a grappling hook that allows Faith to swing across specific gaps in the city.
we fucking batman now, boys
how the fuck can they fuck up this much?
>>334382107sauce?
>>334382943
it's fuchur
>>334382160
That's a really good example of why it's shit design.
I knew this was coming, another one bites the dust
>>334382601
>need to craft shoes to use wallrun
>sweatpants increase your speed and maximum jumping distance
>blueprints for the best clothes are pre-order Bonus Items
>>334382858
which upgrades lets you fly helicopters and hunt deer?
>>334381395
What the fuck is the point of all traversal game that locks your ability to traverse? Jesus christ, this is dumb.
>>334383132
those are Gamestop Exclusive Day-1 DLC
>>334382638
>EA lies
Okay. I mean it's not like they sent their employees to her seminars or anything.
>>334382202
I've never played Mirror's Edge but I always love watching gameplay of it. It looks so damn smooth and fluid. So what does that XP change mean? Is doing shit like wall running or kicking off of a wall onto a ledge going to be locked so you need to buy it first?
>>334383025
Yeah and the thing is, this is really fucking basic game design stuff. If you want to make late-game areas with a certain ability or item in mind, you need to make unlocking that upgrade mandatory. The designers at DICE probably aren't stupid - I assume they know this shit. So that means they had to have weighed their options and decided that a stupid arbitrary unlock system was more valuable than complex, skill-testing level design.
>>334383316
Probably. One of the main abilities in 1 was the 180 degree turn when you pressed Q. It added to the speed and fluidity of the game since you didn't have to fiddle around with the mouse so much and as >>334381730 points as, it's already confirmed as one of the unlockable abilities which probably means bunch of others will be too
>>334383316
probably, get ready for XP-Boost DLCs
>>334381395
Is DICE going to be the new Bioware where it's just the company name putting out mediocre EA product after EA product?
>>334382202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRrBSxdxBDc&t=5m
Compared to this video the lack of hand and feet animation during running and climbing ladders is disturbing.
Hopefully it's because of the small FOV on the consoles.
>>334383278
Anita has given talks at tons of major game companies. That doesn't make her an employee or consultant.
Also, there isn't any proof that Anita even gave a talk at DICE.
You just know there's going to be no kind of new game+ where so you'll never be able to have all the abilities from the get go. I barely played the first but even I know that's not the kind of game that was. It's not Far Cry or Dishonored where abilites aren't mean to keep you from getting somewhere too soon.
>>334381730
Great, the game is confirmed for shit. And it will still sell shitloads more than the first game just because this is actually getting advertised.
>>334383513
Any company under EA puts out mediocre EA product after EA product. EA literally does nothing but buy out smaller companies that make great games that may pose a threat to their profits, and then puts them on making assembly-line, mass-produced shit to appeal to as many people as possible while making as much DLC fuel as possible.
>>334383517
Alien Isolation had full body animation on lower FOV with consoles just recently, let alone the original game, so there's no real excuse.
>>334383714
One bad release and EA starts to tighten the belt
Dont you realize that every AAA game that produces a lot of hype is going to be terrible?
>>334382858
>a grappling hook that allows Faith to swing across specific gaps in the city.
>specific gaps
Great, so they're not even bothering to have the grappling hook be free to use anywhere like in Dying Light. What's even the fucking point then
>>334383926
So this will be good?
Its a prequel you fucking tards. She doesn't know all these moves before the first game. She learns them all not to mention she was in prison so she needs to re learn all this shit.
>>334382160
Kill me now. Last hope are mods.
>>334384058
It's bad game design. If "being a prequel" leads to bad game design, don't do a prequel. It's very simple. Gameplay is king.
Also it's not even a prequel, it's a reboot. And from the dialogue in the opening sequence it's very clear that Faith has been running for a while already.
>>334382160
>An open world game will have multiple paths to reach the same end goal
oh woe is me!
>>334384058
>She doesn't know all these moves before the first game
The abilities include shit like lifting your legs when you jump.
It's also stupid from a gameplay standpoint regardless of any story reasons you try to give it. Limiting the players movement in a game about fluid movement mechanics is fucking idiotic.
>>334384236
>And from the dialogue in the opening sequence it's very clear that Faith has been running for a while already.
this
though they'll probably explain it all away with "she was in prison, she forgot how to run!"
>>334384247
Doesn't change the fact that any level design which fails to incorporate something as basic as wallrun-turn-jump is bound to be boring as sin. That shit was in the damn tutorial of the original Mirror's Edge. Hell, it was the marquee moment of the opening cutscene.
>>334381730
thank god, I was actually looking forward to it, now I have an excuse no to get it
So this is "bad" because..?
>>334384058
Star Wars had prequels and look how they turned out
>>334384247
>falling for the open world meme
>>334384486
read the thread, shitposter-kun
>>334384247
>An open world game
Woe is me indeed. When will this meme die.
>>334384058
It's entirely possible to write a good backstory and have the character learn the moves really quickly in the tutorial or first hour of the game. For a game where movement mechanics are so integral to the core gameplay, limiting them in this manner defeats the point and hurts replayability. Part of the fun of the original was having a wide array of moves and getting to experiment with them in time trials and in the campaign. But in Catalyst, everything will be limited and you will be softly guided through a more rigid system without experimentation. Level designers have to account for the lack of advanced skills like quick turn, arguably one of the most vital skills in the original.
She can be a rookie, but she can learn everything quickly. It's the mark of a bad writer to force a story element over a gameplay element in a game focused on the gameplay more than narrative prowess. It's self-defeating, and right off the bat has a massive disadvantage to replay value compared to the first.
This alone won't make it shit, but I guarantee it will be shit regardless.
>>334384486
See >>334382160
Basically you can expect the entire game to be
>boring straight corridor
>wallrun
>another boring straight corridor
>vault
>another boring straight corridor
>swing
The World will be something Zelda-like where you can reach vertain areas only with the right move (Item). If they do this good, maybe it's not that bad.
>>334384961
or they could do it like in dying light and give you the abilities that allow you to reach everything from the begining and with xp you only get to be faster
>>334382160
>level designers have to keep in mind that areas must be possible if the player doesn't buy this ability
That's not necessarily the case, though. In fact they could design levels around those abilities to direct the player.
>>334381917
Wings of Liberty was good fuck off.
>>334385170
Probably shit where there are normal straightforward routes and the shortcuts are accessed by having skills like wallrun and swing unlocked.
Kinda sucks.
>>334385151
I would like that better, too but it's kinda confirmed we wont get it. Just thinking about ways how this yould work out.
>>334381730
Why does every game these days insist on doing this?
>>334385531
Because people have no attention span
They can't just play a game because it's fun, they need a progression system otherwise what's the point
>>334381395
Jesus fucking Christ, not every fucking game on the goddamn planet needs RPG skill tree bull shit to be fun.
When will devs get this through their thick skulls?
>>334385531
because video game design is paint by numbers where the numbers change based on what's in the most successful games at the moment
>>334383521
>Also, there isn't any proof that Anita even gave a talk at DICE.
No, that's the only part that is known. It's just that it is 99% unlikely to have been the "here is what sucked about Mirror's Edge and what you have to change in the sequel if you don't want to be called misogynists" rant that /v/ convinced itself it must have been. The sequel wasn't even announced yet at the time and wasn't looking very likely. And, contrary to what /v/ believes, Anita can be positive about games too.
>>334382241
Anita has literally nothing to do with this issue. Fuck off, stupid.
>>334384672
>Basically you can expect the entire game to be
>>boring straight corridor
>>wallrun
>>another boring straight corridor
>>vault
>>another boring straight corridor
>>swing
So..... Mirrors edge 1?
>>334385978
Sure thing bub >>334382202
>>334385978
if you never got past the 1st stage maybe. only that the first stage will extend to 2,3 or even 4 now
>>334381730
What is even so bad about this?
>>334383926
>Dont you realize that every AAA game that produces a lot of hype is going to be terrible?
I'd say up to the fifth generation (PS1/N64) that wasn't necessarily the case.
doesn't sound too bad. Well at least as far as this mediocre game go. It was never really good to begin with.
>Limit mobility in a single player game
>>334386303
Red the thread, honey.
>>334386402
>PS1/N64
>AAA
>>334386449
>>334383517
even the console version of the first mirrors edge had animated hands and feet. no excuse
so, how long do you think it will be before the pirated version will come with a mod that unlocks all of the movement upgrades from the start?
>>334386787
>Denuvo
>>334381395
that sounds like dying light
>>334383517
>prompts every where
>>334386787
denuvo.
>>334386918
>Denuvo when they already use origin
Ok
>>334387560
>doesn't know what origin is
>>334387560
>>334386450
It has some form of multi, though.
/v/ I've been trying to solidify everything I don't like about the new game rationally.
It's not that it's going to be a bad game. Personally, I believe if MirE: Catalyst was the first of it's kind it'd be generally well received. It's just that everything the core fans like and regarded as a breath of fresh air have been discarded in favor of easy accessibility. Wrongly too.
MirE give you access to everything all at once. From the beginning of the game, you're able to as fast and as far as you're capable. Why remove this? There was no difficult learning curve. The game was never "too hard". You were basically free to complete 80% of the game at your own leisure and speed. You never got a game over from dying to much.
So it all comes down to why? Personally, I have a theory. This game is going to be short as fuck. The problem with MirE is that once you've gained the abilities from the original game. They will transfer over to any other MirE they release. Looking at WebMs like >>334382202
makes it more than obvious. Without these caps and long ass story cutscenes. Actual gameplay for the game might only take 2-3 hours in the hands of someone decent enough at the game and that would piss a lot of people off. Much more so than these EXP unlocks and shit will.
That's only one facet though. I'd love to bitch and discuss with anons other aspects missing from the game such as the lack of the hyper minimalist aesthetic (personal gripe), lack of weight to almost anything in the game and the fact that the first game actually has better character animation.
>>334381730
Deus Ex: Woman Revolution
>>334387179
Just turn them off
Fuckin hell
Only right way to play Mirror's Edge is no HUD, no slowmo, no runner vision, no guns
>>334381395
Well time to die I guess.
>>334381395
Why are people whining about this? Seems like a decent enough mechanic.
Ratchet and Clank has been doing this for years and nobody whines.
>>334381395
DYING LIGHT DID THIS SHIT AND IT'S STILL FUCKING AMAZING
You know what this case strikes me as?
You get your first "skill point" and this becomes the mandatory first upgrade in the skill tree as a sort of tutorial for the progression system
>release date on May 24th 2016
Holy fuck. What will the requirements be? It seems I will have to upgrade my PC sooner than expected.
Whats a good GPU reasonably priced GPU these days?
>>334388727
Agreed about the minimalist aesthetic. The original ME's style was very distinct and timeless, and it still looks spectacular today. Despite the level geometry being pretty standard blocky straight edges, the splashes of color gave each area its own look distinct from the rest. I'm fairly disappointed in the new realistic/sci-fi look.
>>334390195
I heard somewhere that the new "shiny" style is only in the newer parts of the city, and the older parts retain the old game's aesthetic.
>combat unlocks
fine whatever
working to get better attacks is acceptable
>movement unlocks
literally unacceptable
you can't do an immediate 180 until you unlock it?
traversing the map should be something you perfect through learning WHEN to use each skill, fucking not grinding out the shit you need to be able to do things.
>>334385531
People do things. Sometimes they're successful. Other people do those things hoping to be successful.
