Was rummaging through some old storage bins and found something.
Took a few pictures, hope this is interesting
>Sideways
Welp, I'm an idiot
Flipped it right ways up now
i thought that was a pic of 2pac on that nikka whiskey
>>334378321
>i thought that was a pic of 2pac on that nikka whiskey
>implying 2pac didn't fake his death to go distill whisky in Japan
Do you even whisky bro?
Starting a group pic
>>334378445
>Staying in group section is completely moot now
;~;
Way to get me to nostalgia hard.
https://youtu.be/w6Lu3n9AbUM
FeelsBadMan
>>334378621
>being nearly in tears before I post class quest pic
No, your punishment must be more severe. Now do you have my permission to cry.
I had one of these way back in the day. The little comics in there were pretty neat.
>>334378787
Oh, almost forgot: Thread music theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpyInx0ldfo
PVP inc
>>334378971
Close up of PVP
Then there's the loot
>>334378971
Look what I just found.
>>334378871
Yeah, and they were exclusive to the guide.
>use to read this over and over while taking a shit
Those were the days
>>334379390
Was Penny Arcade ever good? Like, even before they became bucktooth SJWmen?
>Vanilla Paladin talents
Jesus
>>334379635
>+5% damage for 5 points
>Tanking spec
>almost top tier talent
wew
>>334379541
It was okay, never really
>>334379341
I like you anon-kun
>>334379635
Talents are garbage before MoP revamped them
There was absolutely nothing interesting about putting one more point into a talent that was just a stat increase.
>Stealth Nost bitching thread
Let it go.
I still kind of wish I bought one of these binders
>>334380205
I actually never played that private server, but I did play others way back when. I quit around MoP and moved to Guild Wars 2, though Black Desert looks neat
>>334379084
>those that kill NPCs or players much lower than their current level receive negative points
I fucking wish
>>334378621
>level 30 weapon quest
This one hurts a lot for me.
>>334380241
>mmorpgs change
the things vanillafags never understand
>>334378796
>>334380083
I still have my TBC guide
When I made my Draenei I treated those quest guides like a Bible.
>>334380660
They also don't understand that if the game hadn't changed for the past 10 years there'd be even more bitching.
Vanilla WoW worked for it's time and it's garbage now.
>>334378445
Jumping in..
Man... how I miss Nost when clearing those early murlocs in elwyn forest. It was SOO easy to accidentally pull more.
Like everything mattered. The game was fun from level 1. Whereas now, none of that matters.
>>334380807
>Being level 1
Just buy an instant upgrade to level 60 :^)
>>334380807
Well there were dishonorable kills, but not to the point where your own faction hated you.
Anyway. I only took a few pictures, if you all are interested I'll take more and make a new thread tonight late.
>>334378621
>>334378787
>>334380732
>>334380807
Suggestions for thread titles? I'll post the thread around 11:00PM pst, you can search the thread title.
>>334380798
Sure, 10 years of a good thing will eventually get old and stale. But that good thing turning into shit over 10 years is even worse.
>>334380660
>>334380798
I really wish I could explain to people how vanilla was different. I mean, it's a confluence of reasons, some design-wise, some based on where I was in my life, some based on the culture of video games at the time.
But it was different, and a lot of it has nothing to do with changes to the game; however, I feel Blizz could have retained a lot of what made vanilla special through their design choices
>>334381025
Vanilla WoW was unnecessarily complex garbage.
>Zones didn't lead into each other
>Zones in the 40s and 50s didn't even last a full level, forcing you to grind
>No cross-realm BGs
>No Arenas
>40-man raiding forced you to not only wrangle 39 other people, but also backups in case that small workforce of a group had any people who couldn't show up on raid night
>Elite mobs in certain areas means you can't quest on your own
>Talents were boring and you just looked up a guide on where to put points
>Spell ranks were unintuitive
>those days spent sitting on the toilet flipping through each page
>>334380798
But nost literally proved that wasn't the case.
I mean you can have a game where a mana bar is important, that there are professsions, that gather materiasl that craft mana potions because the potion means the difference between 8 heals and 10 heals in a dungeon.
Or you can scrap all that, and make it so faceroll that there might as well not be a mana bar, or mana potions in the game.
One of these is good game design where everything is useful and has it's place.
The other is garbage.
>>334381246
I'd rather have complex garbage over modern WoW
They practically ripped the game to shreds to appeal to the most casual audience possible. Also any semblance of "roleplaying" got taken out back and shot by Activison
>>334381246
>the flaws are what made it great
t. nostalgiafag
>>334381616
There's still "roleplaying" servers, and they're not even in air quotes as if to emphasize sarcasm
>>334378445
Somone dies somewhere in the game.
Call the rezzer!
>>334381616
>he doesn't play on shadow council
>he doesn't play on wyrmrest accord
I would literally blow cocks to get off this server. I can't go anywhere without RP friends trying to rope me in with their bullshit.
$100 account transfer when
>>334381907
nobody plays on realms that aren't WrA/MG or AD if you're EU
I would rather saw my own leg off with a butter knife than play on an RP realm that isn't high population
>>334381246
And yet in vanilla I
>met people from all over the world because I saw them regularly in realm
>had in jokes with others based on events that happened on the server
>Called out ninjas in raids/dungeons (people had actual reputations)
>Quested with others and started guilds with them not because they were good at the game, but because I actually liked them
>helped problem solve with others
>learned to be patient in raids and got to goof around with 39 other people
>always had that one guy that "didn't have a mic"
>actually explored with friends "Hey, I wonder if we can get up there..."
It was just different, a different mentality from the devs and players.
>>334381972
>there are people delusional enough to think that all of that is somehow impossible now
>>334381246
Oh and I forgot to mention
>Week long AV's
That was fucking amazing. It actually felt like you were in a war
>>334378180
>that feel when using more going inside video games machine to raid with my clan
Haven't even used it since we disbanded ;_;
>>334382203
>MFW used the going inside video games machine to have sex with my night elf guildmates
>>334380241
I had one, and the strategy guide. Don't remember where any of them are, it's very likely that I threw it away when moving to a smaller place.
I haave this exact same book.
It's hilarious with how outdated it became by the end of the vanilla game.
>>334381246
>zones didn't lead to eachother
What are you talking about? The vast majority of zones were connected with several other zones.
>>334381246
>Zones in the 40s and 50s didn't even last a full level, forcing you to grind
Yeah I spent around 12 hours every level of pure grinding from like 50s to 60s. When some guides in started saying that you could level faster doing quests later I didn't even believe it. That seem so silly now, where you'll level so fast that you won't be close to doing all the quests.
This is how silly you guys look
>tfw the struggle of trying to achieve 1k+ white crits on my warrior
>tfw watching a butt load of warr pvp videos
>tfw remembering how I idolized maydie and laintime when I was young
>tfw guild was total shit and we could just barely kill rag
>tfw wishing like mad I would get bonereaver or OEB
>tfw unstoppable force the longest
a lot of great memories, but I was truly suffering back then. but I'm still proud of myself for reaching rank 10 on my own. doing that shit without any guild help was brutal.
I envy any of you that were able to clear through BWL and AQ. I'm sure it felt great getting maxed out and walking all over us AV scrubs.
>>334383213
>I envy people who PvE getting an advantage in PvP
what a dumb fucking concept, I'm glad that shit is gone
>>334382050
I don't think you can.
The game doesn't foster that kind of thing any more.
>>334383387
>you still meet people
>there's still people so there's still in-jokes
>ninjaing and the calling out of it didn't go away
>there's still guilds
>there's still zone chat, people actually do something about questing areas getting skullfucked by a high level player
>you can still raid
>there's still people without mics
>you can't fly at the beginning of expansions
>>334383320
Explain why it's dumb in an MMO-RPG.
>>334378180
How's that whisky? It's hard to get by such a good stuff in my country and Yamazaki costs so much my eyes bleed. That leaves me with good ol' Kakubin and Suntory Old.
>>334383558
It's dumb if there is a fully fledged PVP system with its own gear
Why should a person who has progressed fully through PVP be any worse off than some guy who didn't stand in the fire?
Resilience finally allowed me to take massive dumps on PVEfaggots.
>>334380549
>Patch 1.5.0 (2005-06-07):
>"Dishonorable kills - gained by killing a trivial Civilian NPC - now has a negative impact on a player's honor. Enough dishonorable kills will reduce a player's rank all the way to zero."
>>334383320
it never bothered me, desu. they could've made PvP gearing a bit easier, to make the two somewhat equal. gating weapons behind HWL/GM was a slap to the face for anyone that decided to only PvP, but I do understand their reasoning for it.
I do feel the new system is way better in how it gives PvPers gear suitable enough for raiding, while allowing them the advantage against people wearing PvE gear.
>>334383717
>Patch 2.0.1 (2006-12-05):
>Dishonorable kills have been removed from game.
>>334383717
>>334383812
DK was fucking stupid. It stopped a lot of PvPers from doing world shit, since they were paranoid out the ass that someone in group might killed a civ.
>>334383791
At least they're finally going PvP talents in Legion
It took them long enough to separate how classes work by PvE and PvP
>>334380660
>game changes for the worse
>hurr durr stop being nostalgic old man
>>334384062
>my subjective opinion is fact
>>334382983
Is this supposed to be bait?
>>334384028
one of the best changes. players can finally stop blaming PvP for why PvE specs get gutted.
not sure why it took them so long. trying to balance that shit must've been hell.
Stop it. Let it go.
>>334383902
It's dumb the DK penalty applied to NPCs. It should only be used to deter grieving lowbies.
>>334383528
>you still meet people
If by meet you mean see them afk-rotations through dungeons and might as well be bots.
>there's still people so there's still in-jokes
No jokes if no one talks. Chat has declined SIGNIFICANTLY since vanilla. Surely you can't deny this.
>ninjaing and the calling out of it didn't go away
Yes it did. There's no accountability since cross realm. The whole idea of 'server reputation' disappeared.
>there's still guilds
There are. But most of the big guilds left WoW. Most of the family type guilds are long gone.
There are remnants of guilds calling it quits and leaving all at once all over the internet citing game changes.
>there's still zone chat, people actually do something about questing areas getting skullfucked by a high level player
Again, the quantity is nowhere NEAR similar. There's simply no reason for zone chat. Some guy is ganking you? Just queue for LFD you dumb fuck. "But I need to finish this quest to get this item upgrade"... lmao youl'l out-level the item upgrade from the EXP you get just doing the quest. Just dungeon lmao.
>you can still raid
Yes. We can. With 40 People. No. we can't. "Oh but it was SOOO hard to get 39 people together, it was a nightmare".... Yeah we think wel'l like it. We WILL like it, and we DID like it on Nost. Gtfo with your presumptions on what people will find fun and not fun.
>there's still people without mics
His comment is not about people without mics, it's about quirky things about actual people that you learned from being in proximity and required communication with them. Uh oh, the healer went afk claiming that his uncle bought a new puppy. We can't just kick him and re-queue like in modern WoW. Let's shoot the shit, You ever tried meth? Oh shit no way. etc.
>you can't fly at the beginning of expansions
Good.
>>334384335
>being this much of a mad little bitch
I had this before internet was a common thing, I was treated like wizard in our little computer club who had books of spells(cheats) and was constantly asked for cheats.
>>334380660
>>334380798
Wew blizzdrones, can't you go back to you containment threads?
>>334383710
>>It's dumb if there is a fully fledged PVP system with its own gear
And what if we didn't split the game in this way?
What if we wanted to create a breathing MMO-RPG world.
Like world of warcraft and not instances of warcraft.
>>334384220
Lol....
Yes, the solution is to split and fragment the game further.
Just fuck it. Replace world of warcraft with
"CoD lobby of warcraft".
Where you wait in a lobby, playing with your 'load-out' for the next 'game queue' to pop.
>>334384786
and the current system of constant nerfs/buffs is somehow better?
>>334384113
You didn't have to greentext that since that's how you behave, well so you just know: My taste > Your taste
>>334385014
if your taste was better WoW wouldn't have become objectively better over 12 years
>>334384410
>> run out of arguments
>>ad hominem
>>uh oh Call of duty queue popped
>>Better check me email if blizzard sent me $5 for shilling on 4chant like the promised. I might use that to buy a map pack.
lmao.
>>334385060
It didn't, after WotLK it has gone to pure shit, which is proved by massive drop in subs post-WotLK and Blizzard pussied out of reporting sub numbers because they will never ever admit they simply fucked up and keep fucking up.
>>334378796
As someone who Mained warrior, this brings a sad smile to my face.
Remember the beserker stance ? Remember traveling to the island to fight?
Remember when you were given the whirlwind weapon of your choice ?
Remember stance dancing ?
5 sunders?
I know some shut could have been tweaked here and there but damn, I miss so much shit. I'm aware some feelings can be nostalgia but what the fuck ever.
Also this guide was the very book that got me into the game. I was so fascinated by it when me and my friend were in his sisters room and she was riding around iron forge .
>>334384941
Yes it is.
Because one means PVP is just unbalanced.
The other takes a knife to the veins of what WoW was meant to be. It was meant to be a living breathing world that was a whole.
The REASON the whole thing is hemmoraging subs isn't because of imbalanced PVP. It's hemmoraging because they killed the world and replaced it with 'instances of Warcraft'.
>huge book-like box
>dvd box with 5 cds
>200 page manual
Things like these will never happen again.
>>334385256
no shit they won't happen, only a fucking moron would still have a CD Drive
I have all that shit on my shelf still lol.
Have the beastiary also
>>334378180
>Vanilla WoW
>ever good
WoW was at it's peak when Mists of Panderia came out. Vanillafags are worse than Barneyfag.
>>334381420
Thanks for making me bust a gut with the memories anon
>>334381246
>zones in the 40s and 50s didn't last a level.
Get fucking real. There were a thing called chain quests. The only time I didn't have quests really was 53-55 on my first play through as a 14yr old warrior. Sorry that it wasn't a chore, I enjoyed the game and instanced along with havingfun
>>334385341
>>334385442
>MoP
>peak
hahaha how delusional one must have to be, it wasn't worse than cataclysm or WoD but still it was just pure chinese gold-farmer pandering, also who ever though that phasing was a fucking good idea?
>>334385256
>Whether you're a novice or a veteran, a world of bold adventure and mighty deeds awaits.
>>334385585
>posting GTA V
>proving my point
>>334385442
Try wrath buddy.
Pandas despite the backlash of LOLKUNGFUPANi it was an excellent expansion, but the peak of the game was wrath in terms of player base, story etc.
Don't get me wrong my favorite expansion was BC but I think wrath excluding welfare epics was an excellent expansion
>>334385585
That's a lot of disk space for a Steam code.
>>334385585
>The game's user interface is so intuitive, you may never need to read the manual.
>you may never need to read the manual
>need to read the manual
>>334385256
>Level 60
>Still in Dwarf starting zone fighting a level 6 mob
>Has no ranged weapon, trinkets, or cloak
>Name not capitalized
>Some shitty Warlock who got lost in the wrong starting zone applying Fel Armor to themselves
>>334385256
>Teebu's Blazing Longsword
On man, THE holy grail of hemo spec. Also exceedingly rare. Due to its item level, it only dropped from lvl62-63 mobs, which weren't exactly common.
I guess I'm very late to the party. I started WoW for the first time yesterday and immediately noticed how almost all other MMOs took influence. There seems to be a shadow of sadness though, even on high pop servers everything feels dead and empty. Speckles of once-was rememberance of all the ads and screenshots in magazines. Hearing the stories of how great everything was, all the communication, the experience. Now, with the right kind of eyes, you can almost see the high-water mark, that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
>>334381616
It's also bred a particularly lazy type of player. My friends and I have discussed the merits of various MMOs recently, and some of them went near-autistic in despising games with a lot of abilities and options as bad design, having taken on an iPod-simple view of everything. They expect to have one button to do all their relevant whatever, with no variation or snap decision making required.
>>334385928
It hasn't "bred" lazy players, lazy players became the majority because normal people grew up
Vanillafags are worse than DOOMfags complaining that the new one doesn't let you run around at 85mph
>>334385804
meant for
>>334385256
>>334385652
wrath eventually got good, but it took until dks and paladins were nerfed and ICC was released to do so. naxx was embarassing, ulduar was fun the first time then became ridiculously tedious, toc was alright I guess but nothing super memorable, and pvp was so unbelievably broken the first 2 seasons it wasn't worth playing unless you had a pally or a dk on your team, preferably both
>>334385909
>>334385635
Just an exaggerated example. They're still doing multiple discs, there just hasn't been a release as large as that lately.
You'll probably see a bunch of discs once Hitman is released with the full game.
>>334386296
>buying the PC version of a console game
Rip in urine world of witchcraft
Jesus saves
>>334384272
Well, in a roundabout way killing NPCs would also impact lowbies. Imagine a high level constantly camping an important NPC for lowbie quests or the flight master.
>>334386346
Enjoying that sub-30 fps?
>>334386025
>Vanillafags are worse than DOOMfags complaining that the new one doesn't let you run around at 85mph
If it bothers you so much why do you keep coming to these threads?
>>334386025
I dont have as much time to play now as I did when I was 15, but with that being said I'd be 100% ok with not being as good or getting as much as someone who dedicates way more time than I do. Like, I can still make a casual guild's raid schedule, but why should I (now a casual player), get as much reward as a hardcore player?
The answer is simple, I shouldn't, and if you think you should get more for playing less, because you're "grown up", you're what's wrong with video games. If I was, say, playing tbc now, I wouldn't expect to be raid ready in a week, or doing ZA bear runs right off the hop, I'd expect a slow build-up to that shit because I cant dedicate that much time to the game.
Thanks OP. I think I remember you from other threads. You got a fuckhuge collecyion of booze if I remember. I just drink swill but i'm a barely functioning alcoholic.
I hated Vanilla. Not because it was bad. Because it caused me to waste WEEKS on it. STV nearly ruined my life with how often I would get ganked trying to level as arguably one of the worst specs. Still, I made it to 60, then 70. I'll admit I liked BC more for what it did for my class and spec but god do I miss the massive amount of abilities all classes had. It may have been 'complex' but good god did it have variety. Do they even have farsight anymore? Or Div Sac? Can pallies still super bubble not allowing for attacks?
>tfw after 12 years your game manual still has some fresh print smell left
>>334386296
Why aren't they moving to DVD-DL? Why are they limiting themselves for 4.6gb per disc?
>>334380205
>blizzdrone
It's over anon, take your own advice
>>334383213
>be warrior in top raiding guild
>have dark edge of insanity, hatchet of sundered bone, crul'shorukh
>bff is resto sham that follows me around dropping windfury in BGs
>acquire the delusion I'm fantastic at PVP
>Arena in BC gives a soul crushing reality check
>>334378621
>WoW is now nostalgia
there is no hope for /v/
>>334386476
Pretty sure they are dual layer. Das3 is around 17 gigs.
>>334386418
I don't see casuals running around with 740+ ilvl and 13/13 Mythic HFC cleared, so you're wrong.
Uneducated shitheads like you are what's wrong with video games.
>>334386598
>Arena in BC gives a soul crushing reality check
Literally laughed at loud when I saw this with your reaction image.
>>334384335
Its not the same anymore
Will the void ever be filled my friend?
>>334386598
Ret pally here. SoC CS windfury with my godawful but super cool and fucking jacked AND a doctor shammy dropping WF would on the odd time allow me to smite a motherfucker so hard they'd scream I was hacking.
Shame TotD was BiS for so long.
>>334382050
It can happen, but with the way the game is structured now it doesn't.
>>334378621
You think you want it. But you don't.
>>334386598
>Windfury totem
>Sword specialization
>Recklessness
I don't care if killing people instantly is cheap, it felt fucking orgasmic
>>334386726
>Will the void ever be filled my friend?
Nah, the time for that has sadly gone.
Both "gaming" and the internet and the respective cultures have changed too much for that to ever truly happen again. It's like the golden age of exploration and adventure: We have fucking mapped everything by now, plus satellites scanning the globe, good luck going to uncharted corners of the map nowadays.
>>334386980
>it felt fucking orgasmic
You think it did.
>>334380660
>>334380798
Totally bros, also New Coke>old coke. I mean c'mon it's 2016
And spongebob is clearly better post Spongebob movie. Anyone who disagrees is just wearing nostalgia-goggles.
>>334387103
>admitting to being a child that still watches cartoons
>>334386678
There totally are casuals running around with 730-740ilvl gear with models that look identical to mythic shit, which is just the exact same encounter as normal just with damage/health turned up. I was 10/10 m brf, and quit shortly after the hfc/tanaan patch, and there really wasn't anywhere close to as much satisfaction in doing that as there was when I was playing 10 years ago. Boss kills actually used to mean something. You dont need to farm as many consumables, or world buffs, or boss-specific items, or resist gear, mechanics are way more forgiving, every class can more or less do everything, and the designers basically just said "fuck it, good enough" in regards to basically every aspect of the game (one big example being the gear, which looks almost identical no matter how good it is)
>>334386625
Why wouldn't it be nostalgia you raging faggot? Vanilla WoW was 12 years ago. You can be 68 years old and still have nostalgia for it.
God damn you're such a fucking faggot
>>334387218
Where the fuck do you think you are?
>>334387053
I feel like the WoW/Battle.net days of friendly banter are gone for good
>remember my friends in high school going nuts over this
>never tried getting a pc to play with them because the monthly fee put me off
It saddens me when I hear all these stories about people playing with their buddies when wow was new.
>>334387065
YOU THINK YOU DO BUT YOU DON'T
>>334387452
the only reason anyone played with each other was because everyone was garbage and needed help
you're still garbage at video games so this isn't anything new to you
>>334387484
GOOD FRIEND MORHAIME, KNOWS WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU.
>>334387547
>the only reason anyone played with each other was because everyone was garbage and needed help
What kind of logic is this shit?
>you're still garbage at video games so this isn't anything new to you
Uh, what?
>>334385442
>April fools race
>Chinese theme to dip into that chink market
>YOUR FEELINGS ARE FUCKING UP THE LAND STOP IT NOW
>Lol peace bro cmon we all need to just chill
>Hellscream is turning to a giga faggot
>ERRY BODY LIKES KUNG FU FIGHTAN
Fuck that expansion to hell. Literally my breaking point with this stupid fucking game. its precisely the reason I don't play anymore either because if I level up then I need to inevitably walk into that piece of shit continent.
>Fuckin' everything is overdesigned, samey, animu-shit nowadays.
>>334387452You dont know the fucking pain
You're a lucky one
>>334386598
>tfw I did this as alliance
>then went on to be gladiator for three seasons before quitting the game
Maybe you just sucked in geneeral desu senpai
>>334387449
I was thinking about this the other day actually. We wont even be able to convey to our children (ok lets get realistic, our nephews/nieces) about awesome it was. Like how will we even be able to explain the whole gravity that was the internet and WoW-culture in 2004-2010ish (the end date is pretty debatable)? It was a cultural phenomena the likes of which has never been seen, or will never be seen again, and unless you were there, I dont know how you could ever really appreciate it.
>>334387452
>Lived in the country, nothing faster than dialup was around until I moved. Aside from shitty satelite.
>>334385256
>>334385874
>Tfw thought for 10+ years that the sword the dwarf used on the box was a place-holder item and didnt exist ingame since I never saw it back then.
>level a rogue on Nostalrius, checking AH for high level swords
>its there
My mind was blown.
>>334388062
same lol, I played with this raging shaman who would flip the fuck out, throw things around his room and go for smokes every time we lost. But once we got past like 1900-2kish and stopped seeing mage/rogue every fucking game, we just trounced all over the druid/x teams.
Although I never got glad from 2s cause I didnt get gud until like s3
>>334380602
>northern section of Stanglethorn Vale is a great choice two.
>two
>>334388703
>>334380602
I remember helping warrior friend with those fire elementals in arathi.
>>334388914
>>334389426
those graphics look like garbage
>>334389560
hows your legion preorder, buddy?
>>334381246
>Talents were boring and you just looked up a guide on where to put points
>x wasnt balanced correctly/was too complex so lets just remove all character customization
The cancer killing modern rpgs (mmo or not. See bioware, betheseda, etc)
>>334388062
Thanks for reiterating the content of the post while awkwardly trying to fish for compliments about decade old events
Reminder that WoW was the most basic, normie, brainless shit that every neckbeard played when it came out
>>334389560
the earliest versions of the game were basically just slightly rescripted/reskinned WC3 that multiple people could join at the same time. The progression from alpa to release is astronomical.
>>334389957
It wasn't really normie at all, as in people thought you were a fucking loser for playing it. And it wasn't until people started hitting 60 that they released that it wasn't as casual as a lot of the purists/hardcores were saying. Then after about 9 months they all started jumping ship from their other respective games (EQ, lineage, etc)
>>334389957
We know.
>>334378180
Would anyone be opposed if Blizz made a legacy server, but forced new models/textures onto you
>>334378796
>Class quests
Still don't know why they by and large stopped doing these.
Getting an ability through a quest makes it feel kind of special. It feels like you earned it. Like you had to go through a trial and in doing so your character is stronger and wiser - and that makes you feel like you've truly advanced your class, more so than gaining a level or a new piece of gear does.
>>334390717
>Still don't know why they by and large stopped doing these.
A class quest means content exclusive to 1/10th of the playerbase AND EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO AND GET EVERYTHING!!!!
>>334384458
what
Internet has been common since 2000+
>>334390903
there's 11 classes, 12 in Legion
>>334390903
I would love to have a transcript of the discussions that happened at blizz at the end of Vanilla, when they were looking at less than 0.1% of the population having seen Naxxramas. Just to watch the corruption of their design philosophy in action is a drama worth reading.
>mfw I leveled a ret paladin in vanilla
>Mark Kern, lead vanilla dev signs the petition
https://www.change.org/p/mike-morhaime-legacy-server-among-world-of-warcraft-community/c/434305499
https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/720972885871865856
>>334392249
>Jay Wilson, lead developer of fucking your mother, quoted as saying "Fuck that loser."
>>334390717
Agreed. The reason why Druid was my favourite class was because they not only had cool class quests where you spoke to spirit animals but they also had their own personal zone - this peaceful, green glade (complete with Keeper of the Grove) hidden away in northern Kalimdor. It not only helped the class feel unique but it helped tie druids from different factions together.
It was cut off from the outside world by a tunnel of high-level furbolgs. One of my favourite memories was trying to stealth through when I gained Cat Form. I kept getting closer and closer to the other side until I got to level ~40 or something.
>>334381246
>Zones didn't lead into each other
Every starting zone led to the next zone, which then led to another. Even after that, breadcrumb quests were very common.
>Zones in the 40s and 50s didn't even last a full level, forcing you to grind
Tanaris, Feralas, Searing Gorge, Un'Goro easily gave you 1-2 levels. There were some zones that didn't have as many quests (Azshara, Dustwallow, for example), but they weren't the majority. The only problem was that you'd often have to revisit zones because the levels of the quests could vary a lot.
>No cross-realm BGs
This was a good thing.
>and you just looked up a guide on where to put points
Not much different from now.
>Spell ranks were unintuitive
How?
>>334392183
>tfw one of the 0.1%
Vanilla was mostly shit.
