So hows /v/ liking the doom beta? While not quite the classic arena shooter we want its decent. Apart from the loadouts and bullet spongey players, its pretty enjoyable. That being said player movement speed needs a bit of boost.
Im primarily interested in the game for the single player but the multiplayer seems to be more than just tacked on trash, a few patches and it could be great.
Thoughts?
Have they added in any new guns since the closed beta?
>>334363395
Didnt play closed, im at work so I cant really check but off the top of my head:
Super shotgun
Lightning gun
Plasma rifle
Rocket launcher
Sniper
Heavy machine gun
And one more that I cant recall as I havent unlocked it yet
>>334363568
Doesn't seem like it, in that case.
What a shame, I'll probably play it anyway though.
>>334363267
It's gonna be super mediocre console shit.
The SP is going to be all linear, with PainKiller style obligatory combat arenas you need to clear in order to proceed. On top of that, there's fucking stupid mission objective reminders AND a direction compass on your screen ("Find a yellow key", "Use yellow key on yellow door"...).
Then there's that disgusting shit, like tons of "cinematic" first-person cutscenes for everything from pressing switches to picking up guns, and goddamn Perk AND level-up systems, because you just can't start with 1993-tier movement speed and ammo-caps in 2016.
Can't even play it, The game crashes when a game starts everytime...
>>334363851
For what it's worth with the picking up guns cutscenes, that was completely scripted. As in, when you look at the video closer, he already had all those weapons he picked up later in the weapon wheel available earlier. Also pretty sure they were running a "cheat" where you couldn't fall below 10 health.
>>334363851
Yeah the whole perk thing is dumb but eh, New Order had that and it was barely noticable. The whole cutscene for actions thing is a nitpick at best. Also if you acquire a gun for the first time its just there to show it off like, "Ooo look at this gun ooOooOo" but other than that who really cares?
Movement speed is pretty good, not quake fast but faster than any modern shooter. Objective markers are a thing now in games now, they have been for a while and at the very least theyre not that intrusive based on what the E3 gameplay showed us. Im willing to bet you can turn them off as well, you can turn off the damage numbers in multiplayer.
If you wanna play anything close to a fast shooter mp i recommend dirty bomb, a game that doesnt get enough attention. This piece of shit is not worth my time.
help meshotgun is fucking ballin
>>334364331
Just wait a bit faggot. Didn't you read the notice at the beginning?
>>334367054
Havent played that since November, has it gotten any major updates?
I played one match and thought it was alright. Don't really have the time or attention to spend on it. The one consistent thing I have seen around /v/ and /vg/ are people making shit up about the game based solely on conjecture. Not even the good kind of conjecture, just the kind of nihilistic ITS GONNA BE SHIT conjecture that every big name reboot seems to be plagued by.
In the mean time, I'm fucking with Brutal Doom for the first time. It's fun.
>>334363851
all that sounds pretty cool to me
>>334367202
Shits great, cant wait to use it in single player
>>334363267
Is it just me or they changed some minor interface features and improved connections since closed beta?
>>334367308
You are playing on black metal difficulty, I hope?
This shit is the best
>>334367278
At least 2 mercs since november i think. Maps are still too few. Current event is quite decent and they keep on balancing shit.
>>334363267
wow, this is the most obvious shill thread I have ever seen.
>>334367423
It's kinda frustrating though that shoving these sweet two barrels up someone's throat and shooting doesn't kill them.
>>334367718
for balances sake
if you land a headshot it does something like 80 which usually kills people because they forget to heal
>>334367779
Never met those people. Fuckers always live after I shot them close up and then they fuck me in melee because my ping is shite.
Meh
playing it right now
no weapons to pick up from the map, we've got class loadouts instead like in fucking Battlefield games
movement is slow, nothing like Quake at all
no crazy dodging and aiming here, thus skill ceiling is very low
graphically its very nice looking but that is the only good thing I have to say about this obvious console shooter
>>334367779
Holy moly that armor looks fucking gay
I just topped the scoreboard with a controller theres so much autoaim
>>334368319
in a 1 vs 1 it seems the one with most armor will win, because the skill ceiling is that low
is this the case?
>>334368768
pretty much
>>334368319
>movement is slow, nothing like Quake at all
but it's not quake
It's so fucking slow.
>>334363267
Dammit why does the image make me laugh so hard
>>334368319
>no weapons to pick up from the map, we've got class loadouts instead like in fucking Battlefield games
Flat out fucking lie. The Gauss Cannon is a pick-up and you know it.
>movement is slow, nothing like Quake at all
Oh no, players don't fly across the map like Olympic ice skating gold medalists. Whatever shall we do?
>no crazy dodging and aiming here, thus skill ceiling is very low
See pic.
>graphically its very nice looking but that is the only good thing I have to say about this obvious console shooter
Do you live in fucking bizarro land or something? The graphics are nothing special, and everything else you said is flat out wrong.
Decent? It's fucking terrible, it plays like UT for drooling retards
It's not Doom it's Call of Doom
>>334369273
This is bait
>>334369436
Of course it is, OP's image is a marketing one. The same fucking shill has been using it to start threads to get bait replies because they get paid per post. STOP REPLYING.
it's like you kids never played Quake III
>>334369436
>>334369714
Standard /v/ bullshit. Everybody who disagrees with you or points out obvious lies in your posts is a troll or a shill. I'd tell you to go talk shit about another game using baseless criticism but that's all faggots like you ever do here.
>>334369406
ironically call of duty is much faster than this and a lot better
this is more like halo with everything interesting removed
desu its not worth talking about cause its obviously tacked on, ID didn't even make the multiplayer they outsourced it
>>334368768
>>334368889
well that is solely because of the slow movement speed
you might as well not dodge at all and hope the other guy misses
>>334363267
i have no money for a good pc and my laptop can just barly run it at about 15fps (constantly, so it doesn't feel like that much of a fps spike).
so now i gotta run to a store or online and see what RAM & graphics cards fit in this damn machine..
PC gamers, how do you cope with all of this?
Enjoying my 2fps, who needs advanced options anyway
>>334370331
it really is a travesty.. i mean, halo has this movement speed but theres tons of other stuff going on to work with that, like grenades, picking up weapons, radar, armor abilities and most importantly, maps designed to have escape routes and cover - which doesn't seem to be the case here
>>334368936
Quake is the most popular arena shooter (which is what Doom 4 advertises itself as) so of course it will and should be compared to Quake
it's fucking awful
>load it up
>search for a match
>waiting
>waiting
>waiting
>waiting
>oh fuck it has loadouts
>waiting
>waiting
>waiting
>waiting
>MATCH FOUND AFTER NEARLY 10 MINUTES
>puts me into a match already in progress
>didnt let me use the loadout I chose
>character turns slow as fuck
>can see markers through the fucking walls
>get btfo by everyone using shotguns
That's all I needed to see to delete it.
The movement feels like trash. Get rid of double jump and ledge grab and give me rocket jumping instead.
>>334370643
took me less than a minute to find a game
>>334370640
You're not even playing it.
I mean people complaining about this >>334368768 don't know shit they are talking about.
And it can be seen all over the whole thread, people complain that it's not hardcore enough for them and instead of playing Quake they play CSGO.
>>334363267
Well at least it's not as bad as ubishit rainbow six.
>It's not like [another arena shooter franchise]!
Why is this an argument that people use? That's just a statement, not an argument against the game.
>mfw lightning gun
I fully expect them to nerf it, though. Shitters will say that the secondary fire is too good.
>>334371401
I don't know about LG but demons need to be nerfed for sure, i mean it can one shot a player with 100 armor and full health.
>>334363267
I really dislike both of the maps, weapons damage overall and the fact that you can barely strafe, also, is revenant supposed to deal much damage? I've only seen someone taking him down once and that guy conveniently brought quads with him.
>>334371503
the revenant rockets are way too powerful compared to regular rocket launcher
Is the Static Rifle any good?
I'm pretty happy with Assault Rifle/Shotgun at the moment but i've seen a couple people with it
>>334371503
That's the point of the demon, though. It's supposed to be something that you can turn the tables with if your team is losing, and it creates a point of contention within the game.
A good team that plays together can pretty easily kill a demon, too. And after that they get the rune because the team who just had it is locked out of it for a brief moment.
>>334370640
>Quake
>Popular
fucking LOL
If anything, I whould compare this game to tf2, with just the soldier, with just koth_nucleus, without the capture point, without spawns, without rocket jumping.
Not gonna lie, I'm having a shitload of fun even by myself.
The Super Shotgun is just so goddamn satisfying.
I wonder how hard carmack and romero are laughing at this debacle calling itself a doom game.
Halo
And since the only good mode of Halo is Grifball, its not even that good
>>334371659
There are so many options for the revenant to get the fuck out, because everyone knows that chasing him through corridors is the stupidest thing you can do. It's fucking maps, that the problem.
>>334368542
>implying the proto man armor isn't GOAT
>>334371975
I liked Halo 3 because of the forge and infection.
>>334372110
well there will be map editor.
>>334372110
That's why the team who is not in control of the revenant should group up in the most open space on the map and make their stand there. The revenant is a big target and is easily gunned down in the big grotto of Infernal, for example.
>>334370643
Sounds like you have dogshit internet and you're trash at video games. I find games almost immediately.
it's not halo or cod or quake but it does borrow some things from each
it really is it's own thing, it's just that it's not that great...
>>334371729
TF2 is more fast paced, specially if you play scout, and the loadouts make sense because it's class based
>>334370643
>LOL I AM HATING ON A GAME CAUSE EVERYONE ELSE IS
consider suicide
Hack Modules are completely awful and the entire system needs to be removed from the game.
>>334368319
>movement is slow, nothing like Quake at all
Can you fucking morons get it through your thick skulls that this isn't Quake? Why is that so hard to understand?
>>334372637
>Not taking perverse pleasure in hunting down your killer
>Not wanting to know exactly when a power-up or weapon is going to spawn
>Not wanting 50% more experience
Forcing your victims to look at your taunts and even get a humiliation bonus is clearly the best part of the game. Makes me so fucking angry if someone does this to me.
>>334372424
Yeah that's the only place, but revenant will be just fucking around in the caves (at least that what i do), and i don't know how the fuck do you even organise this meeting on the other side of that grotto, and let's not pretend that revenant is slow or anything he can leave as swiftly as he came.
>>334363267
Holy shit I just played it and wow it's abysmal. Who at ID was delusional enough to say "Yeah! Lets have a beta! People will surely want to preorder after playing this!"
>>334373196
As long as you stay there, he and his team will be forced to engage, unless they want to just waste the revenant by letting it run out.
>>334372829
All this and more on a random drop that you get after a match that only works for one match! Worse than that trash system Battlefront had where the power ups you unlocked had a limited amount of uses and the amount of uses didn't after every match.
>SS + Static cannon
If you dont use this you're a shitter
>>334373364
Again, how do you organise this, no one even travels in packs, unless they on the point, on contrary there's always someone who is with the revenant. I just tag him with Retribution and try to stay away, honestly.
>>334367779
>>334373980
Git good
>>334363267
because it plays like an even more blander version of the modern halo games
>>334373576
Precise rocket rape in midair is much more satisfying. It just rains arms and legs.
>>334373980
You organize it by telling your team to group up in an open space. If they do not follow your instructions, they are shitters and there's not much you can do about that.
Honestly this is the worst shit I've ever played, and I'm the fucking mongoloid who fell for Evolve, hook line and sinker.
Did you buy that DLC yet, Goy?
>>334363267
>loadouts
dropped
I don't hate it as much as everyone else. My biggest issue is that the movespeed is too slow.
Also the heavy assault rife is invalidated completely by the lightning gun. Shit hits for 9 to the body and 13 to the head when it should be hitting 12-13 to the body and 17 to the head.
There's a BBC ARTICLE on the shitstorm now.
They've contacted Bethesda for comment.
>>334376108
Heavy assault rifle has no maximum range. You can shoot at people as long as you see them with it. This is not the case with the LG.
>>334367386
You have to be 18 to post here.
I hope the multiplayer dies after a month. This garbage isn't Doom.
>>334370352
Build a good computer to begin with and you don't really have to worry about shit
It's okay.
I sincerely hope there's a classic mode that turns all the bullshit off.
Also they're selling weapons and perks as DLC so this is probably a no go for me
Already pre-ordered the PS4 version desu
>>334378050
>preodering games
>the new Doom of all games
>Doom on a console
>>334378250
Video games
>>334363267
Why does /v/ keep trying to make this Doom into Quake. IT'S DOOM. The original Doom 1 and 2 multiplayer was insanely nooby.
All it was was super shotgun and rocket spamming with no aiming and one hit kills, no form of movement other than moving really fast meaning no advanced techniques like rocketjumping or bunnyhopping. You could not even move the screen up and down.
If Quake was being released like this, then /v/ would have a right to complaint but at the moment, your arguments are redundant.
>>334379018
These nigs are from Reddit. Go to the doom sub and its full of "not muh quake"
to be fair quake is THE arena shooter and comparing doom to that is only natural. It's so shit in comparison though
quake is the gold standard of multiplayer shooters
>>334379018
Why does Doom 1's multiplayer have to do with anything?
On it's own, D44M is fucking shit. Its fucking slow. Loadouts are fucking retarded. There are no advanced movement mechanics. The rocket launcher is by and far the best weapon, there is no semblance of balance. The map design is shoddy at best. It is unoptimized trash despite not even looking that good. There is mouse smoothing out the ass that you can't change. 2 weapon limit.
Everything about this game is fucking garbage. It is literally worst than Halo.
>>334371659
Every team deathmatch I've played so far has been decided by which team gets the revenant. It'd be one thing if the powerup was announced with enough time for teams to scramble to the point, it'd be like some kind of impromptu king of the hill, but so far whichever team is lucky enough to have one or two dudes nearby when it spawns is going to be the one that gets it and is going to be the one that facestomps the other team. I like the multiplayer for the most part until this powerup shows up, then it just turns into a giant shit show where one player dominates and decides the fate of the match.
So far I've only had two or three matches that were something someone could argue was close, but aside from that every game has been totally lopsided. Even winning like this isn't particularly enjoyable unless you're the one playing as the revenant; nothing you do is all that important or influential compared to the guy that's gonna get a shitload of kills cuz he was in the right place at the right time.
Lol what is balance - Bethesda and id.
Lol what is fun - /v/
>>334380179
In one of the earlier alphas the INCOMING DEMON RUNE callout happened 15 seconds before it actually appeared which meant everyone had a chance to flock over to it and fight over it.
I have no idea why they changed it to 5 seconds. Probably perks/hack modules.
>>334381206
>everyone clusters around the demon rune
>one guy gets it and subsequently a dozen ez kills
My guess.
>Run plasma and lightning
>Use alt fire on the plasma
>Switch to lightning and go to town on groups
>Mfw
Warpath is much more fun than tdm, that's for sure.
I'd rather play free for all than tdm in DOOM.
>>334379535
>>334379742
So it's Doom, not Quake. Exactly what I was saying.
>>334379991
>Its fucking slow
It's not Quake speed for a reason and it's faster than COD and Halo which is all the game needs. I wish speed was not lost from double jumping though.
>Loadouts are fucking retarded
Not too bad but let the noobs get the easy modes. A classic arena can be released later for the smaller population.
>There are no advanced movement mechanics
There might be if the leaks are true with strafe jumping. However this is Doom, not Quake. Even jumping is an advanced technique compared to the original Doom.
>The map design is shoddy at best
You need to explain this. I had no problem from the two alphas, closed beta and open beta. You can use map control and memorizing the health and armour pickups has helped me greatly.
>It is unoptimized trash despite not even looking that good
Not sure about optimisation but that needs looked at. The graphics are fine.
>There is mouse smoothing out the ass that you can't change
This I agree with as this needs urgent fixing for pc players.
>>334381379
I would love a 4 team game too
>>334381289
I would try making the callout 30 seconds so there's a chance for a real clusterfuck of a fight over it.
I'd also nerf the health of the demon by somewhere between 50 to 100. I'd also remove the demon mechanic entirely for the "Classic" playlist.
You guys know that snapmap lets you edit game logic too, right?
If there's something in DOOM you don't like, I'm sure some other quakebeard will quickly make a game variant just for you.
>advanced warfare is faster than a fucking doom game
>>334381750
This game is just as fast as quake 3 without strafe jumps.
>>334381681
This
And soon enough, some "Hardcore Doom fan" is gonna go out of there way to make a mode that plays like an HD version of the original Doom's multiplayer
Of course even then, you guys will still complain
>>334381871
Quake 3 also designed maps so you could be anywhere in a second, even if you're just walking. Whether it's teleporters, jump pads or verticality.
Game is shit.
Shitting on the DOOM legacy.
CALL OF DOOM MORE LIKE
The map design is terrible.
>>334382086
It's not.
But even if it was, go make your own.
>>334363568
Static rifle.
Personally I don't think it's that bad of a beta, it feels like quake 3 to me, but I don't like the unlock system, the grenades and the alt fire shit.
I'm gonna get hate for this, but:
Less is more.
more controversial opinions:
I don't mind the custom loadouts. I think it's a great way to customize gameplay and tailor it to your gameplay style. Though For me, that tends to be super shotgun, super shotgun, super shotgun.
>>334382086
The maps are probably the only part I really like.
>>334382218
Snapmap is limited to 4 players. Kinda makes it useless for conventional multiplayer.
>>334382256
>it feels like quake 3 to me
It plays literally nothing at all like Quake. Another /v/ bandwagoner whos never played Quake except for maybe an hour after /v/ told him it was a good game.
>>334381995
sauce me up famicom
It's pretty bad so far. Unless they improve some grave inadequacies in the lackluster gameplay mechanics (hint: they won't), this one will be a clear skip.
People bitching about loadouts, acting like they need to pick up guns in the level.
How many shotguns do you fags think you need?
>>334382286
>kinda makes it useless for conventional multiplayer
Or, actually makes it pretty damn good since, if you set your map up well enough, the little kids will be flustered and not wanna play it, making it an actual challenge
I wish you started with two grenades, one never seems to be enough to finish the job.
>>334382414
Anon, stop being retarded. I'm talking about making a deathmatch map, not a single player or co-op challenge.
>>334382338
I played QWTF more than I played tf2.
Which is 3119 hours.
>>334381995
>Facebook filename
dude what
If there was still any doubt that this game was made for people who have never played Doom, the beta has removed all such doubt.
Can this please PLEASE make bethesda bankrupt?
We need to send them a message that us gamers are not going to put up with these low-quality copy-paste garbage products anymore.
>>334363267
this game is fucking trash, nothing like the trailer made it out to be. Hit detection is utter garbage considering I hit someone close range with a rocket launcher and they still dont die yet they can ones hot me with a shotgun.
Halo Online is more enjoyable than this shit.
>>334382585
Yeah, making them bankrupt and probably having them shut the whole company down sure will show them that we don't want trash
>>334382523
I didn't hate it. I don't think it's great but I didn't hate it.
I also remember playing doom direct dial up.
>>334382783
I didn't even know Doom had multiplayer. Granted all I had was the sharewareand Doom 64.
i can't even get it to run, an error pops up every time
It's pretty fucking garbage tbqh familia. It's generic as fuck and nothing makes me want to replay it again.
>>334369273
how much do you get paid per post?
>>334382739
Yes, it will
ITT: people who can't keep track of their health and blame the game for not being good.
>>334363267
mouse accel or smoothing that can't be disabled, mouse cursor/crosshair constantly trailing behind where you're actually aiming and aiming at people near you is impossible because it doesn't track properly. it's really bad and i consider it unplayable.
>>334383571
What's the point of keeping track of your own health when a supercharged nigger with enemy locator built in one shots you?
>>334383769
It's called gittin' gud, anon
You should be able to turn right around and one shot the fuck before he does it to you
>>334376172
Holy crap, you're not even kidding.
Link for interested: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36052742
>>334381681
what?
>>334381750
>fucking advance wars is faster than the new doom game
this is what I read
>>334384218
You just don't like that they change the color of his hair, anon. Stop being a child.
>>334381681
>>334381926
>4 player maximum for snapmap levels
>No outdoor areas
>Fixed geometry period
Doombuilder and SLADE equivalent tools or bust.
>>334376172
>>334384218
What are the chances Bethesda listens and fixes the multiplayer?
>>334382286
>limited to 4 players
wait where was this announced?
if so DOA
FUCK
>>334384101
You're a fucking retard.
>>334384641
They've said so when they announced it on E3 last year. Just look through the presentation, I'm not gonna look up the exact timepoint for you.
>>334384632
Literally zero. They have way too much invested at this point to make any meaningful changes. This is pretty much what you're going to get.
>>334384218
it's mostly negative now
I just wish they would listen now
IT'S KINDA TOO LATE BUT IT'S NOT TOO LATE
>>334384632
They've got about 28 days before release, so...about 0.000009%
>>334384632
Well, considering that all I would really want is a mode that has loadouts, perks, and probably the demon/power weapons removed, it's not like it would be a hard fix.
Will they actually do that? Probably not.
>>334384752
aight
>>334384632
A month before release? AHAHAHAHAHHA
>>334384840
>>334384857
why not tho
do they hate money? because mixed reviews are a strong sign the game won't sell well
I think its fun.
Definitely feels a bit haloy but the way health pick ups and armour works lets you get ahead like quake
>>334363267
worst open beta ever,terrible mp game
>>334384857
I've heard that people have found files for 'classic mode' in the game, but since it's not in this beta, it doesn't look promising.
>>334363267
Fucking textures and geometry load on my face, just like the old Rage times.
Is there a fix for this?
>>334384992
>why not tho
Because the game needs a fundamental change in the core gameplay of the multiplayer mode, which is simply cannot be done in 28 days, you dumb faggot. You would have to remake most of the game. Loadouts is just a part of the problem.
>>334384632
They'll probably add something along the lines of "classic mode" removing load outs, demon gameplay, perks, and (personally, I just want this but,) shitty armor that looks like it's ripped from Halo
However you can bet your daughter's virginity that it'll be DLC
>>334384978
even just tweaking some values like movement speed would shut most people up
Went 15-3 in my first game, which means the game is bad.
>>334363660
Closed beta had more than alpha. I was pleasantly surprised. But the closed beta is just early access for people who had pre-orders and I guess wolfenstein codes.
>>334363267
My pc is low-mid tier and this shit lags like hell
so not really a fan of this beta
>>334385146
No it won't
>>334384992
Do you remember when cod mw2 said no dedicated servers and how everyone was going to boycott that FUCK YOU BLOODY ACTIVISION
oh wait they all played day1 anyway. And since doom is mostly about singleplayer rather than multiplayer that just means everyone will buy it, play it, and then never play it again.
>>334385185
okay
>>334385236
okay
>>334385073
The Vega AI announcer files had him saying "Classic" among other things in the previous beta. Thing is though, there was like 20 different modes in the voice files, including racing and some other shit.
It might have been scraped from an earlier build or maybe it's something for down the line. Who knows?
A mode without the bullshit might make the multiplayer worth playing but why would we ever have nice things?
>>334385197
wait a game that is mainly singleplayer rather than multi means people are going to buy it?
what is this backwards ass logic
>>334385197
People love cod, and dedicated servers hardly would make any difference in the core of the gameplay. The Doom multiplayer is just simply bad as it is, nothing can save it.
So is the Super Shotgun the only useful weapon?
>Slow as fuck
>Loadouts
>2-weapon slots
>XP
>Health pickups everywhere
>Autoaim instagib pickup
>Can't turn off blurvision AA
>Shit graphics
>Laggy servers
>60 second intermissions
>DLC
>38% positive steam reviews
>BETHESDRONES ACTUALLY DEFEND THIS
>>334368319
>no weapons to pick up from the map
How is this anything close to an arena shooter
>>334385418
You can pick up two weapons (one is arguably not a weapon, but it's close enough)
>>334385418
It really isn't. Even Call of Duty is faster than this nowadays
>>334385401
It's not just DLC. It's exclusive weapon and perk DLC. Weapons and perks that I'm sure will have no distinct advantages whatsoever.
>>334385401
>BETHESDRONES ACTUALLY DEFEND THIS
Well, you can't blame the younger crowd for not knowing better. Personally, I'm super happy the score is so low. I thought the drones and kids would overwhelm the rest and people that know it's not an arena shooter would be the vocal minority.
>>334385496
But there's fucking loadouts.
In a goddamn DOOM game
>not drinking your Mountain DewM for exclusive double XP
EPISODE 4: THY DEW CONSUMED
>>334385786
It's Halo, except slower
>>334385496
Those pickups are like the killstreak rewards of CoD except you don't need any skill to get them
>>334385786
It's twenty sixteen, step up or step aside, grandpa
>>334385401
>Bethesdrones
The game is made by id. Bethesda Softworks is the publisher.
So you should be saying id drones.
Honestly I'm enjoying fucking BattleBorn more. Doom isdoomed.
>>334385895
There are no iddrones
THIS GAME ROCKS
>>334385786
Easy fix. Remove loadouts, perks, demon runes. You can keep the power weapons in. They're essentially the UT Redeemer. Maybe reduce the Gauss Cannon to 2 or 3 shots worth of ammo.
That doesn't fix any of the other criticisms but it fixes the primary, glaring ones.
And it's easy to do.
>>334385846
Buy the E1M9 add-on pack today!
easy
don't know how i feel about that demon pick up though
>We've got to a point where Call of Duty manages to be faster than Doom and Unreal Tournament
wew
>>334386034
DID YOU SEE WHEN HE CHAINSAWED THAT GUY
>>334386016
Nonsense. Every developer has its own drones that are enamored with their games.
>>334386036
And I'll be sure to visit the alternate reality where this will happen.
>>334363267
It's alright sitting at a 2.9 K/D just had a 31 and 6 match.
>>334386146
UT was always slow
>>334386036
Removing the loadouts would require the redesign of the maps and weapon re balancing and then extensive additional testing.
>>334386203
You and me both, buddy. I actually want to like this game but it's making it very difficult.
Best weapons?
Post yourLoadouts
>>334386267
Drop the weapons into the existing maps in logical locations.
The weapons are already imbalanced as fuck so that's a non-issue.
>>334386265
>UT was always slow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWFBxa5Qp5k
>>334386134
It's okay
If it wasn't such an ez kill machine it'd be pretty cool
I still thinks it's fun to fuck around as a revenant though
>>334386174
I stopped being one after Carmack left.
>>334386443
Like I said, slow. Besides UT4 is faster than that. And with actual movement mechanics.
>GTX 560
>tfw 10 fps
Irredeemable garbage that will be forgotten in 2 weeks tops.
>>334386341
Lightning Gun is my new raifu
>>334386574
Time to get a job
>>334372673
doom was faster than quake
>>334386265
i remember switching from UT to quake 3 for a while and then back and i absolutely destroyed my friends in UT because i had so much practice at quake 3 speeds. felt like everything was in slow motion
> All these millenials pretending they give a shit about Quake or arena shooters when its abundantly clear they don't care about them because there are about 500 people playing QL at any time.
> They blame Bethseda for not catering to a dead genre
Is this game the victim of
>MUH FOCUS GROUPS
?
>>334387673
QL sucks though, private servers with q3 1.32c is where it's at.
I guess there is Xonotic and OpenArena too though..
https://youtu.be/_2gQQUjx3j8
>tfw have extremely low end PC
>tfw have to settle for cuhrayzee doom
Eh, still good.
>>334387929
I want to impregnate Marie Claude Bourboneggs
>>334387673
>millenials
I didn't know 50 year olds posted on /v/
>>334387929
Quake Live has had user hosted servers for like almost a year now and it actually has a playerbase. If you're playing vanilla Q3 there's pretty much no reason not to move to QLif you're on Windows.
I completely understand if you're playing cpm or some other mod though.
>>334387945
>that revenant part
I mean yeah to be a guy working on multiple games you cannot be autistically accurate about one alone but COME ON
>>334387929
> QL sucks though, private servers with q3 1.32c is where it's at.
Hasnt been like that since forever. Thanks for proving my point
>>334388451
I dont see how it was proved but >>334388170 has convinced me to look into QL.
>MUH LENNY UL
>>334385396
Suprr shotgun and melee break this game. Homing melee always breaks console fpses and this is not different, on any map you just need a super shotgun and melee right after every shot.
Every 10+ level player i see on pc does the same thing, theres no point in using anything else.
>>334387929
Can we just get more of those tits please?
There's faggots on the stream page complaining about a 60 fps LOCK. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THAT AT ALL?
>>334389070
People played Q3 on CRTs well beyond when those things became outdated because it used to be the only way to get 100+ FPS.
>>334389070
I'll take what is a 144 hz monitor for 400, alex.
Played it for nearly two hours. Didn't have much fun right out of the gate but I didn't want to judge the game based on a few rounds.
Not having advanced movement and going with loadouts and ebin level ups is what kills the game. What they did with quad damage (giving everyone else wallhack) and those stupid demon spawns that completely break the flow of a match are the other big offenders.
Nobody is vying for map control, everyone just runs around like a headless chicken unless it's that 'moving capture point' mode. It makes everything just so bland.
>>334389070
More framerate options are locked in that advanced tab that they have locked down for some reason.
>>334389384
I honestly thought it was fun.
Much like Battlefront, was fun for a couple of hours. But I can't see myself investing more than a weekend or two before I get bored of it. There really isnt a lot of depth. I feel like I have already mastered it
>Return of id Multiplayer
>Dominate your opponents in DOOM’s signature, fast-paced arena-style combat. In both classic and all-new game modes, annihilate your enemies utilizing your personal blend of skill, powerful weapons, vertical movement, and unique power-ups that allow you to play as a demon.
>>334363267
Pretty much what I expected, doesn't feel like doom at all.
Id has been shit for a long while now.
>>334389682
>vertical movement
That's the worst lie of them all. This maps are flat as shit. Fucking overwatch uses verticality better than D44m
Evolve 2.0!
>>334387945
damn, i didn't need this today
i'm so disappointed with where the industry has gone over the last 10years
>People call it 'Halo with gore'
Halo (1-3) is actually good, though. At least as far as console shooters go.
Though, the fact remains that Doom isn't a console shooter. And Doom 4 is quite significantly worse than Halo.
>>334385295
Does it mention CTF?
If not then the multiplayer will be dead in a week
>>334387929
No question
Does anyone else get a message in a weird box saying I need to update my graphics driver?
They should just remove the Rocket launcher and make it a pick up. It's useless as a primary weapon, and that way they can buff it to be actually useful.
God damn. I feel like originally all these weapons were pickups, but they shoehorned them into a loadout system and thereby nerfed them to be "balanced".
imho you should start with the super shotgun or even the regular shotgun and have to find the plasma rifle/AR/rocket launcher on the map. Then they could buff those weapons so they aren't peashooters.
ALso, best thing about the beta - being able to remove the hit-point indicator.
>>334386443
this map was pretty based
>>334367202
>those pings
Every fucking match. What the fuck did they do? Why is it so laggy?
>>334390085
I too think they should implement fps design 101.
>>334389585
I get these "awards" (pic related) almost every round. Just goes to show how little people care or understand the importance of map control.
I was a decent QIII player and that took me years to get on that level. I too feel like I've already touched the skill ceiling with my fingertips. It's extremely shallow and painfully geared towards console play.
If you don't know what the "awards" are it's basically:
>Longest time alive
>Most jumping
>Surviving a lot of encounters
>Collecting the most armor
and other shit like that.
I've been playing with people my level and obvious noobs but the result was pretty much always the same.
Players just spawn and run head first into conflict without a shred of map awareness.
>>334387945
Fuck you anon.
>>334389963
I can't remember. Most of the shit we dug out of the files were voiceovers from the single player.
>>334387945
This is just sad anon.What video are the clips from id from?
It's absolutely awful.
>>334390309
kek
it really is amazing how bad this is. like, even if it was smashed together in a couple months, i still couldn't imagine it being this bad
>>334382356
>>334382504
www facebook com/197009883643826/photos/a.198433213501493.53870.197009883643826/1186066521404819/
>>334390085
my biggest problem with rockets is how slow the projectile is
like you can almost outrun it, the effective range is next to nothing as a result so direct hits are unreliable
it seems like its designed to compete with the shotgun as a close range weapon but it CLEARLY cant
>>334385401
I dont remember this scene... what the fuck
I can't even play in 1080 or I can only see the upper left part of the screen.
Any solutions, anons?
>>334390585
oh my
