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Has video games finally surpassed film and literature?
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Has video games finally surpassed film and literature?
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>you are too stupid to get the message so we shove it down your throat so deep that we reach the core of the earth
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Absolutely.

inb4 memeing dumbasses who can't comprehend art
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why posts these threads, it's like made by a child that thinks he's a big adult by consuming products
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>>334355549
/mu/ fags, /tv/ fags /lit/ fags etc all think the same

>my entertainment media meant for consumption is more mature and sophisticated than others!
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>>334355324
>surpassed
yes. in it's own way.
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>>334355324
>>334355660

I love vidya, but the guy who made these is a fucking retard.
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>>334355795

This is the truth to be quite honest with you, my family.
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>>334355660
>>334355789
what article were these from again? These are incredibly short sighted and act as if video games dont have problems inherent to its medium.
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>YOU
>JUST
>DON'T
>GET
>IT
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>>334355789
The atmosphere is Prometheus was fucking god tier wtf
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>>334355901
why is the number of creators included

is that a point about more creators = more quality or what
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>>334355901
>price of admission
>$69.99
>day one dlc of $15 or 4200 WiiStation Points
>$29.99 season pass (does not include all dlc)
>cosmetics $$$$$$$
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>>334355324
The gaming industry has generated more revenue than the movie industry for decades. They've always been above film.
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>>334355789
Why do cinephiles hate prometheus? I once saw some retarded post claiming it was SJW trash
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>Spec Ops
>do some mission
>kill people
>keep killing people
>shit happens
>squad dies or some shit
>I'm actually crazy
>choose who to kill
>game over

That's all I remember from that game.
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>>334355324
I honestly think that due to being playable and interactive, video games may surpass movies as a medium in terms of telling a gripping narrative.

Or at least it has many strengths that are overlooked. Doesn't help that most games that try to tell a story have a shitty fucking story.
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>>334356074
>uh, sort of...
>being this inconsistent and insecure
These statements make me angry.
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>>334356074
>>334355901
>>334355789
>>334355660
>>334355324
What is his audience? What is he hoping to achieve by making these?
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>>334355795
It's weird, everything he produces as a list or chart that has to do with media is trite and childish with art ranging from bland to le ebin charicature.

But I read Subnormality and the characters are cool, most of the morals and points are valid, mature, and optimistic in the end, and both the environment and character art is really cool- I swear he hasn't used a remotely similar design for any two background passerby in group shots. I mean granted I personally am ok with wordswordswords, but it's not half bad even with stinkers in the early comics.

What gives with this guy's dichotomy of shit and bretty gud?
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>>334355901
>paying $20 just to see one artwork

I know its biased, but still, don't be dumb.
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>>334355956
>>334356114
Prometheus was great up until they got to the alien ship on the moon for the first time. Then it went to hell.
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>>334356114
As someone who doesn't actually like any of that crap it was literally pretension mixed with "this is the genre, look at it."

>>334356204
But everyone's narrative is different and the interactivity and particularly the ease of putting it down and coming back after nearly all important details are forgotten makes for a more muddled narrative.
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>>334356074
>Django Unchained
>Unwatchable

I got hooked the moment I heard the music in the beginning. My favorite Tarantino film.
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>>334356459
I hate Jamie Foxx with a passion, and will not watch movies with him in it, but I like DiCaprio.
Gave Foxx a slide, and it did do that Django music like you said, which gave me hope.
I actually liked it.
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>>334356291
I haven't read Subnormality in awhile, but I do think it's a great webcomic and one of the best. Winston Rowntree's opinions are sometimes hard to take seriously, but he's a great artist and the work he produces resonates with me emotionally, because I'm there with his protagonists in similar ways.

>>334356359
>But everyone's narrative is different and the interactivity and particularly the ease of putting it down and coming back after nearly all important details are forgotten makes for a more muddled narrative.
True, but that's just the nature of video games.

But beyond that, just look at the ways that games like NMH1, MGS2, and SotC present a somewhat typical video game narrative to you and kinda flip the rug out from underneath you. Movies can't really do that because you don't have the same connection. They're not about you, they're more like you're watching someone else.

Not to mention the length of video games potentially can make you care much more about the characters or the setting because you spend so much time with them. If anything, in rpgs and shit, devs should be taking more advantage of that.

Not even really a storyfag btw, I play games for the gameplay. But there is a lot of potential there that devs miss out on.
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>>334355789
Did he ever play the original Deus Ex
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>>334356074
>book I actually finished
This is some next level bait right here.
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>>334356459
>>334356594
>tfw black and still have yet to watch Django Unchained
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>>334356728
How is that bait?
I can't finish a book for the life of me.
Books are too fucking boring.
I rather watch a movie or play a video game.
Shit the closest I'll get is reading a big hard cover of a comic series with all issues combined.
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>>334355324

It's because of these pretentious pseudo-intellectual "nerds" that companies are turning video games into visual novels and movies and ruining the gameplay.
Seriously, fuck off back to your books
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>>334356825
I don't know why you're jiggling your line like that, you already got a (you) from me.
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>>334356459
I hate Tarantino and all his films so yeah
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>>334356964
No this is my first (You).
I just wanted to add that books are boring too finish.
I'm not original poster.
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>>334356959
No, anon, you are the cancer

>MUH GAMES AREN'T GAMES UNLESS THEY HAVE MULTIPLAYER N ALIENS

It's blatant people who cry about muh walking sims and movie games are the xbox generation who expect every game to be an action shooter or it's "not a game"
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>>334356728
I don't get the bait either senpai. I think the image just triggered you so you called bait like a bitch. Stop crying wolf, faggot
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>>334356359
>it was literally pretension mixed with "this is the genre, look at it."
So it's tthe undertale of movies?
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>>334357031
There is emotion and imagery in text that cannot be conveyed in any other manner. Every mind interprets and visualizes words differently. Reading is as important, as it not only is an exercise in vocublary and comprehension, but of self-actualization.
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Crash Bandicoot did it better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA0xvtdKFds
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>>334357273
Nice meme but I'm with him. Books are boring and I cannot finish them. I have basically never finished a book outside of when I was obligated to.
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>>334357128
The image implies that the video game was the "best" option out of the four because it was the cheapest. By that logic shouldn't collecting rocks from his driveway (or some other free activity) be even more enjoyable because it costs absolutely nothing?
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>>334357371
But games aren't cheaper.

Also this doesn't seem to be why you called him biat, or if it was then you have 3+ confused people replying to you.
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>>334357274
>>334357273
I hate siting there reading about a character they describe for two pages how they look.
Then they finally talk about them like I know them, and spend literal pages of what they're doing in 5 minutes.
I can handle talking and reading in games, but books with no real imagery except how they spend lines and lines to describe, it's boring.
Give me a game, and show me their expressions on the screen.
Let me talk to them, and hear what they're thinking.
I hate reading a book and hearing what every person is thinking in their head but doesn't talk about it.
Let me in a game talk to them about it, and see if I can get it out of them.
That's more immersive to me than a book.
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>>334357351
When were you diagnosed with adhd?
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>>334357351
I sincerely wish you reconsider. Reading books allow you to understand the meaning behind many things in life and appreciate them more. It's a fun-enhancer, allowing you to be happy with less.
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>>334356187
Specs ops is one of the most over rated games in recent memory. A complete monotonous slug from the gameplay standpoint, with a 2deep4u plot, and suddenly it's the best thing ever. Fucking bullshit.
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i just cannot get inside the head of a person who stared, wide-eyed and gawping, at

i dunno the arches in the background of the Marble Zone in Sonic 1

and carefully marked a bullet point in their autism journal: WHO BUILT THESE RUINS AND WHY

because just fucking _recognising_ stuff doesn't make it deep or even worthwhile
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>>334357491
Anon, if there's anything life has taught me it's that you can't force your passions on others. I'm likely not going to ever be a literary nut and you'll probably never be subscribed to multiple bowling news letters.

>>334357469
Not the letter combo mental disorder I have, sorry
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>>334355972
Two heads are better than one etc etc
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>>334357427
Can you give me an example of books you might like? At the very least, I suggest reading the Greeks as their influence is pretty much everywhere in modern Western society.
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h-hello creator-san? hello, please bestow upon me in your infinite Creator-God buddha-like wisdom and vision

where on West Island is Hill Top Zone located
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>>334357413
>But games aren't cheaper.
No. Not according to the image.

>>334356074
>"Win! Uh sort of..." = "$0.003/HR"

The image claims that the superiority of the video game is in direct correlation to the price spent per hour while playing it.

So yeah, plucking your ass hairs one by one is an even better activity because it's free according to the image.
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>>334357569
>passions
No, it's a necessity like eating healthy and being fit. Not having at least a base understanding of the Western canon or your country's equivalent is inexcusable. This isn't hobby reading, it's life knowledge.
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>>334357802
Just so you know I'm tipping my fedora at you
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>>334355324
i never played SO:TL why was it so crazy? i heard about using some chemical weapon or something at one point?
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>>334357802
None of that is a necessity, anon.

I don't give a fuck about western literature and I and most people being born these days pretty much consider print a dead artform
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>>334357770
But what's the point?
He spent nearly 200 hours playing it.
He must have had fun.
Why is this considered bad?
He chose to do that, and got his money's worth.
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>>334356825
>books are too fucking boring
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>>334357770
Image is full of shit because stalker is not the average game length. Average modern AAA game length is closer to 5-6 hours and dropping every year.

Pretty sure by the end of the decade the average game will be around 2 hours
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>>334358070
>Pretty sure by the end of the decade the average game will be around 2 hours
I actually predict this.
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>>334357860
It is not pretentious to advocate basic literacy.
>>334357891
I don't really care about the opinions of modern illiterate consumerist whores.
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>>334357057
Nice strawman faggot. It's not about expecting every game to be pure action.

And yeah it's not a game when it's some bullshit attempt to make some moviegamenovel composite freak so people can fell smart and superior when playing them. It actually ends up ruining both gameplay and story, since they are both half asset.

You want moviegamenovels for yourself? Whatever.
I don't want this to become a trend. Companies should keep genres separate unless they can actually make it work, but that's rare.
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>>334356074
>buying tv series
>25 fucking dollars for a book
>16 fucking dollars for a movie
Did his mom buy everything for him so he has no idea what he's talking about or is he just completely fucking retarded?
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Subnormality guy is full of shit and himself.
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>>334357952
>He must have had fun.
No, I'm sorry, that's not what that image implies. Nowhere is "fun" or "enjoyment" mentioned.

The "value" is directly linked to the price paid per hour while playing it, thus making a free activity even more "valuable".
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>>334358154
>It's not a game when I don't like it
Sorry, but all I see is a faggot who wants to take away games people like because they trigger him. AKA an SJW
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>>334355660
Literally comparing apples to oranges. The strength of each mediums way of telling a story is too different to just simply say one is better.
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>>334358126
How does reading make you better as a person? What have you done to contribute to society in a meaningful manner? Do you produce anything other than shit?
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>>334355660
>Tries to open door
>It's basically a really pretty wallpaper on the game's invisible walls because the entire thing is a virtual hallway.
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>>334355324
>cracked

Kill me. I'm not brave enough to do it myself
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>>334355324
That's a really stupid and edgy way to write the character had a mental illness and the war only made it worse.
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>>334358234
Gives my ulterior motive point taken.
>free activity
He had to pay for it.
Just like the movie, tv series, and books.
If the point was FREE > MONEY, then it'd be diff point.
I don't anything free being worth it.
He is pointing money costs, nothing free.
It's not like Stalker made him sit there for 2 hours like Django.
If value is so important, than might as well be a hobo.
That's all I hear, it's all free, but all I see is price divided by time.
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>>334358269
Reading makes you happy with less. It allows you to comprehend and understand the world better in both a scientific and romantic mindset.
What do I do? I work as a Firefighter/EMT.
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>>334356291
I'd be okay with wordswordswords if he learnt to fucking space things better so I could actually read it. Instead he starts running out of room so he scrunches everything up really small and really close.
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>>334355324
>Colonialism is bad
I think he confused it with Things Fall Apart. Heart of Darkness shows the natives to be easily manipulated children, superstitious and easily persuaded to acts of extreme cruelty.
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>>334358485
By that logic:
>Rubik's Cube > video game
because he could literally spend the rest of his life on a Rubik's Cube.
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>>334356283
he's like a reverse quentin
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>>334358173
Have you been to a bookstore or movie theater in the last 5 years? That's what they usually cost now.
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>>334358796
No one goes to bookstores outside of college students and middle aged women.
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>>334358070
Honestly, we'd be lucky if we get single player experiences past the tutorial for certain AAA titles.
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Y'all dumb niggas need to read a book
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>>334355324
>video games finally surpassed film and literature
Not in a million years.
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>>334356072
>The gaming industry has generated more revenue than the movie industry for decades.

o am laffin
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>>334355324

>cracked dot com
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>>334359079
This is sub 70 containment board, famalamadingdong. OP's pic is basically "I'm so profoundly dumb that I advertise my stupidity and shout it from the mountain tops every chance I get!".
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>>334359153
>HAHA YOU HEAR THAT HATERS I CAN'T HEAR YOU I'M TOO BUSY HANGING OUT WITH MY FRIENDS
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>>334358796
I've always wondered why American movie theaters are so expensive. It can't be just that they have a higher minimum wage than where I live I even ran the math.
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>>334356291
>>334355660
>>334355324
isn't this the guy that made those illustrations for cracked's after hours?
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>>334359490
Hollywood Jews
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>>334355324
When I went to NYU before deciding film wasn't for me, I had all of my professors tell us that we should look into courses in regards to videogames because film is a dying medium and it will be much more difficult to find work and success in.

Film is a great medium, but it has many weakness that can be circumvented through animation. When the uncanny valley is passed I expect animation and film to unite alongside videogames.
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>>334359427
lold
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>>334359603>>334359603
>I expect animation and film to unite alongside videogames.
Someday, someday...
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>>334359603
>When I went to NYU before deciding film wasn't for me, I had all of my professors tell us that we should look into courses in regards to videogames because film is a dying medium and it will be much more difficult to find work and success in.

that's depressing to think about
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>>334359603
Yeah, when I went to Berklee all my music teaches told me the same thing: don't bother with music, it's a dying medium and it will be much more difficult to find work and success in. You should look into video game courses instead.

You fucking idiot.
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>>334359775
Atleast they will still use actors and film crews for mocap in the future.
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>>334359153
>s-see? I don't care! In fact, just to show how much I don't care, let me make this comic to show my lack of caring.
>haha, totally got you stupid t-trolls!
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>>334359603
Vidya Games are the best medium for vidya games
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>>334358796
I live in a major city, and the only time you'll pay $16 for a movie is if you go to a 3D in the nice theater with the great seats.
Typical is like $11.

For books, just go to fucking Amazon, eBay, or any used bookstore. There's a billion places to buy books for not $25. Dude's an idiot.

I also want to make fun of the fact that he paid $5 for STALKER. I paid $1.99 in a steam sale. 90% off sale way back when.
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>>334355324
>finally
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>>334356459
Dropped it immediately after DiCaprio was killed. Should have ended with Django dying in the manor. Would have been a better, more tragic ending.
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>>334359807
Angry film student detected
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>>334359153
>look at these drawings of fat people who're talking in an erratic and immature manner. That's YOU.
>now look at me chilling on the beach with my cool friends that I totally have.
>that's what I thought!

What goes through these insecure webcomic people when they make these "addressing the haters" comics? Also, why is he drinking Coke at a beach party?
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>>334355324
this image is fucking gay as hell
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>>334360156
Not him but when I took a creative writing course we had all of our professors tell us that we should look into courses in regards to videogames because writing is a dying medium and it will be much more difficult to find work and success in.
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>>334360240
>What goes through these insecure webcomic people
Shit. That's what I get for not proof-reading.
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>>334355901
Museums are free entrance, hell so are most galleries. Holy shit, the bias.
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>>334360341
Checkmate atheists.
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>>334356187
Except that moment when you flying on the helicopter in the beginning of the game.
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>>334359603
>When the uncanny valley is passed I expect animation and film to unite alongside videogames.

I strongly disagree. The uncanny valley doesn't define or limit videogames.

I think it's irrelevant to force people into thinking that videogames are "a serious medium", "art" or "at the same level as films". That depends on the perceptions of each person, not on a universal truth.

None is better or worse, just different ways of expression, each with its own limitations and strengths.

The comics that OP has posted are retarded as shit obviously.
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>>334356459
It would make a good vidya.
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>>334360291
your mom's gay
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>>334360384
>implying this mouthbreathing sack of shit has ever once entered a museum/art gallery
iffen he caint get ett frum walmart he dunt need eet
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>>334356283
he want's the normie crowd.
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>>334360459
>I think it's irrelevant to force people into thinking that videogames are "a serious medium", "art" or "at the same level as films".
Go ask /co/ how well that's worked out for them so far. Or better yet go ask any random person who cartoons are for.
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Oh fuck off.
Heart of Darkness is a bit of a slog to read the first time but it's an ace book.
Guy wrote it while learning English.
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>>334360649
Opinions of people that know nothing about the medium are even more irrelevant.

As long as the real audience keeps looking for new and innovative products, anything else is only a distraction.
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>>334361003
>As long as the real audience
>implying video games real audience isn't dudebros and children
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Imagine being so anti-litfag that you become a litfag but for video games.
Jesus how pretentious can one human be?
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>>334361356
Why not enjoy both?
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>being absorbed into books or movies doesn't make you mature
>the fact that I think this is how everyone who reads or watches movies thinks and my addiction to video games proves I'm the most mature of them all
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>>334361445
Because I care too much that others believe I don't care what they think. I wouldn't be caught dead reading a book.
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>>334358761
he just had fun with a game and got a lot of value out of it, jesus christ you sound like an asshole
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>>334359427
>>334359857
>>334360240

>triggered
/v/
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>>334357273
Okay i get fidgety just watching the logos before the game, or an ad or whatever, but this is some next level impatience, so i can`t imagine how braindead and twitchy this fucker is.

People like this are why a lot of games npcs have jack shit to say.

Why are some people against dialogue? even in movies some people will complain if theres a lot of dialogue, god forbid theres context for the explosions.
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>>334355324
nope. people believed a few years ago that AAA gaming would overcome cinema, but then capeshit and Frozen fisted their market and generated profits no game will ever reach. AAA games are all flopping too which just make their upcoming death quicker.
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>>334362527
Thank you God.
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It was a bad game. The gameplay was bad. The visuals were bad. The story was bad. It's presented in a juvenile way and the experience is really cheap. Plus beating the game takes roughly as long as Apocalypse Now Redux, so do yourself a favour.
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>>334358250
k
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>>334356074
>paying to see Django Unchained
This guy I'd a yard. I can't really see how a Tarantino fan can dislike it though.

Plus this doesn't even give it a fair comparison. You can rewatch a DVD, reread a book, etc. Just like he didn't launch Stalker and call it done when he killed one guy 5 mins in. Books and DVDs have resale value too, if it comes to it.
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>>334359496
Yeah. He also drew a lot of columnists' banners.
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>>334356594
>hate Jamie Foxx
>like Dicaprio
Keep your shit taste to yourself next time
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>>334357351
>Books are boring and I cannot finish them.
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>>334355428
This is American culture in a nutshell. No nuance, no subtlety. Just beat it as hard and as loud as you can until everyone "gets" it
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>>334364606
there's actually a study that explains why literature is hard to enjoy for a lot of people and it has little to do with reading comprehension

our society's ability to comprehend is growing larger everyday, but our willingness to read is shortening.
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>>334356114
>I once saw some retarded post claiming it was SJW trash
How could it be SJW trash? The most aesthetic, competent, powerful and organised character was a snow-white, 8 foot tall muscular man.
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>>334355324
>>334355324
These all come down to how you interpret the medium, videogames have an 'impact' on him because plebs needed at least three senses to be stimulated for immersion and analyzation.
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>>334364398
Don't you have to get home and warm up the big black bull for your grilfriend to fuck?
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>>334355789
WHAT IS BLADE RUNNER?
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>>334364750
I watched The Cornetto Trilogy with my American friend recently. He's not stupid, but the sheer amount of times he said, "what?" or "I don't get it" was astounding. It's not even very complex humour.
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>>334356074
>Tarantino garbage
>Tolkien garbage
>Star Trek garbage

How about this meme loving fuck actually watches some decent movies and reads proper literature instead of genre fantasy? Fucking manchildren.
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>>334355324
10/10 bait image, even knowing it's bait it still pisses me off
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>heart of darkness
>not "how i found livingstone"
How does it feel to be plebs?
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What kind of manchild unironically thinks this? Seriously? I stopped saying this after I played BioShock 2 in realizing games will never be art. I was literally 12, and yet you guys still think like that?

>those books
Oh, no wonder. Never read a single book past the ones assigned in high school, kek
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>>334355324
>he got off the boat
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>>334365164
ONLY THE GAME COUNTS, YOU REGRESSIVE SHITLORD
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>>334366059
Apocalypse Now and Idi i Smotri are the greatest war films for sure, and funnily enough they're both about dehumanization.
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>video games can't have good stories because they're just video games
Have you any idea how far up your own rectum you sound when you say this?
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>>334362001
HELLO WINSTON ROWNTREE
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>>334356825

As a litteratur student, you trigger me.
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what was the spec ops the line appeal anyway?
I played through one or two missions at a friend's place but it felt like a standard shooty
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>>334366549
>video games are superior to films and literature
Have you any idea how far up your own rectum you sound when you say this?
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>>334356074
>>334356074
>Netflicks subscription
>$12.99
>tens of thousands of hours of content

Win!
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>>334367178
>not Hulu so you can watch criterion films
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>>334367097
That's kinda half the point. It introduces itself as SHOOTAN USA GONNA SAVE EVERYONE FUCK ARABS but then you end up killing everyone because you had the wrong perception of the whole situation, and everyone else was just trying to survive (besides the CIA, who were trying to cover-up).
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>>334367161
I didn't say that.
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>>334356825
Movies are boring. It's easier to find a good book than a movie that doesn't lose my interest within a few segments.

I am a visual thinker (and inadvertently spend half of my day daydreaming, merely by being so absorbed by my thoughts; something that transfers into reading written word), you might be retarded which is why books bore you.
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>>334356072
Look at how wrong this anon is. Look at him and laugh.
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>>334356114
Honestly, it was a mess. The director/writer was banking so hard on rule of cool, the story just didn't make any sense. It played like a prequel to a movie that didn't exist, the characters all did incredibly stupid things, the story was disjointed and introduced too many elements making it a clusterfuck of character, events, and things, the director vehemently saying it wasn't a prequel to Alien despite using all kinds of Alien artifacts, THEN him saying, okay, yes it is, and finally, the main character was, for the most part, only there for the ride. Shit happened to her, she didn't influence much on her own.
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>>334360152
You. You don't know references.
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>>334356594
Honestly, Dicaprio should've gotten an award for that performance. He actually cut his hand when he smashed that glass and kept going. That spiel alone was amazing, but his intro lines of "At first you had my curiousity, now you have my attention", that line just told you what kind of character he was.
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>>334355324
To be honest, the storytelling potential is far superior: the more senses are stimulated, the harder it hits.

Vidya evolves along human progress and always strives to be better, unlike every other medium which has strict boundaries. It can deliver a message far more efficiently, for being there is a whole other thing than writing about it. Case in point for every real story ever written: would you rather be the reader or the writter?

Now we really need better games, because while the medium has potential, most works are fucking garbage, and too few shine the way a book can.
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>>334370313
>tfw literally have a phobia of things going into bellybuttons because of seeing matrix while sick with a head flu at a young age

NO
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>>334355324
NO

/thread
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>>334356825
I agree, books are super fucking boring.
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>>334370150
>"We need great stories"
>weeb shit
Literally snorted so hard a bit of snot came out of my nose.
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ITT: American teens that think the fact that they've read a book makes them special in some way.
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>>334370615

?? theyre good
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>>334370632
ITT:An arsehole who probably doesn't understand the power of the written word
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>>334358261
I get what you're saying but something always bothered me about this "apples and oranges": aren't both fruits?Can't you compare than in any way?
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>>334356074
>there are people who spent 200 dollarydoos to watch Voyager
Jesus Christ, how horrifying.
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>>334355324
The game tried to make you complicit in the actions of the character despite the character being actually retarded.
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>>334355324

If Spec Ops The Line was made today it would get shat on by /v/ for compensating mediocre gameplay with 5DEEP3ME philosophy and pretension.
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>>334371449
What did /v/ say about Spec Ops? Please tell me they didn't think it was great.
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>>334370150

you know how I know you're full of shit?

because of all thing Bravely Default (and the sequel) are praised for one of the LAST things is the story.
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>>334371449
It deserves it then and now.
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>>334356825
books are pretty boring, but when I actually start reading one and get immersed I tend to read the whole thing quickly
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>>334371738
>books are pretty boring

I hope you fall down the stairs.
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>>334371596

yea?
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>>334370156

>of all things he got an oscar for it was for acting in the cold and eating raw fish

I'm not even mad I just feel like it was a pity award.
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>>334371821

it's an afterthought wrapped up in TWEESTS and IT WAS YOU ALL ALONG shit. Titty Ninjas can get wrapped up in this too since it's real plot only gets resolved in visual novel paragraphs.
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>>334372017
hm, sorry you feel that way. it was good
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>>334370150
senran kagura has multiplayer, faggot
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>>334370150

>great story
>HEY LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH WE LOVE FOOD/CUTE THINGS/ALCHEMY/BOOBS
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>>334358269
Well, if you read more maybe you'd understand "contribution to society" is a shitty buzzword.
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>>334366515
>Idi i Smotri
nazis lmao

Anything the nazis did to native populations Russians did it far worse. And most of it went unreported because humanitarian groups were not let inside invaded countries.
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>>334372115

don't say faggot
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>>334364787
Could you find a link by any chance?
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>>334365164
An overrated movie that doesn't do the source material any sort of justice because the only redeeming quality it has is that it's pretty to look at.
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>>334357569
>confirmed mental disorder
>bowling nut
>accepted as normal poster on /v/

h-have I become the normie?
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>>334372429
>>>/pol/

The movie isn't even set in Russia, but in Belarussia. Those innocent civilians living in villages and then get burned alive didn't deserve shit.
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>>334372513

Haha, I'm a film school freshman myself. Dap, brother!
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>>334372592
>implying any of it actually happened
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>>334358234
You might just be the most dim person on the planet.
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>>334370926
ITT: An arsehole who thinks that because something is printed on some sheets of paper it somehow has more artistic value than any other media.

Litfags are to storytelling as Classicalfags are to music.
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>>334372647
go away pathetic underage stormfaggot

stick to your containment board
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>>334366515

>Idi I Smotri
>BOY THOSE NAZI SURE WERE BAD FOLKS!

top fucking kek it's shitters like you why Godwin's Law exists. There were countries that did way worse than the nazis but it is most undocumented because savagry.
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>>334372692

MUH CITATION PLS?
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>>334372692
Elem Klimov, the director of the film was born in the USSR. That should tell you enough. But keeping believing in your le polack boogieman
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>>334372723
Belarussia did worse stuff than Nazi Germany? Good to know.
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>>334372676
>look mom i'm being reductive online
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>>334370436
Good thing I was just left with a fear of parasites from that scene, they're horrifying already.
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>>334356114

It was setup as an origin story to Alien but it spun off into its own canon and introduced random shit like zombies and tentacle monsters. It's basically a bad fanfiction with terrible pacing.
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>>334372834
It does not matter. The film is set in Belarussia, and takes view from a boy from Belarussia.

>In total, Belarus lost a quarter of its pre-war population in the Second World War, including practically all its intellectual elite. About 9,200 villages and 1,200,000 houses were destroyed. The major towns of Minsk and Vitebsk lost over 80% of their buildings and city infrastructure.

Let me guess, it didn't happen right and is just a lie from muh evil jews?
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>>334361003
>Opinions of people that know nothing about the medium are even more irrelevant
Ah, so THAT's why the biggest influence on the comic industry today are their movie adaptations!
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>>334362392
The dialogue simply isn't interesting a lot of a time in Bethesda games.
It's simply a vocal maze to gain advantages and quests.

Dialogue could be much better used though. Like, in Fallout 3, there's so much I'd like to know about how people just outside the vault survive. Why aren't people mutated like crazy like happened in Chernobyl? Where is their food coming from? Why have they been living outside for a century surrounded by the bountiful scrapyard of a destroyed civilisation, yet still live in pitiful conditions?
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>>334372874
I'm only pointing out that books aren't the magical portals to foreign lands that litfags seem to think they are. They're not superior to any other medium. They're just different.
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>>334355901
Is this the "building your persona" guy? Kinda looks like it.
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>>334373043
Are you actually retarded? Like diagnosis and all? I never said those things didn't happen. I said the events in the film never happened. Find me a case of such a thing happening. The fact that you have an image like that saved says you are too stupid to entertain both sides of a subject anyway so I know this is a lost cause already
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>>334373353
The events in the film never happened? It's a representation of what happened in the war.

>The massacre was not an unusual incident in Belarus during World War II. At least 5,295 Belarusian settlements were burned and destroyed by the Nazis, and often all their inhabitants were killed (some amounting up to 1,500 victims) as a punishment for collaboration with partisans. In the Vitebsk region, 243 villages were burned down twice, 83 villages three times, and 22 villages were burned down four or more times. In the Minsk region, 92 villages were burned down twice, 40 villages three times, nine villages four times, and six villages five or more times. Altogether, over 2,000,000 people were killed in Belarus during the three years of Nazi occupation, almost a quarter of the region's population.
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>>334357427
Your problem is that you have no imagination, which is something that can be caused by playing video games and watching movies instead of reading a book every now and then. I'm truly sorry for you.
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>>334373517
So what? Russians did the same

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes
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>>334373880
>these innocent villagers in Belarus deserved to get burned alive because of what Joseph Stalin and his communist supporters did

yeah no
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>>334371596
And Senran fucking Kagura being up there didn't tip you off?
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>>334373190
>books aren't the magical portals to foreign lands

Books have influenced nations, challenged the way we think, I mean, give me one video game that has caused a revolution.
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>>334356074
do americans really pay 16$ for a movie or is this guy just retarded?
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>>334373190
>I'm only pointing out that books aren't the magical portals to foreign lands that litfags seem to think they are.

Plato and the old Greeks' writings are foundation for Western civilization. Works by Shakespeare, Dante, Milton and the religious books like Quran and Bible shaped the world.
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>>334372464
is this a meme going on? people pretending to be from tumblr?
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It should have surpassed film by now and in a very few select examples, I believe it has. It'll probably never surpass literature however.
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>>334374474
>It should have surpassed film by now and in a very few select examples, I believe it has.

Name one.
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>>334374474
>It should have surpassed film by now

What the fuck? Something tells me you don't actually watch films, only Star Wars and garbage from Tarantino's ass.
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The guy who draws these is my favorite retard who thinks he is intellectual.
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>>334374361
That's because they've been around for thousands and thousands of years and back in a time where a majority believed dragons and witches existed. People were more easily influenced by fiction, because on the whole, they were a lot more naive about their own existence.

Shakespeare is overrated, too. His plays might have been controversial and racy back then, but now they're just boring as sin. Times change.
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>>334374795
>Shakespeare is overrated, too.

/v/ never ceases to amaze me. Literally every writer in history is inspired by Shakespeare.
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>>334374795
Didn't realize the communist manifesto was thousands of years old.
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>>334374885
And they improved upon him. Shakespeare is boring. A man with a horse's head might've had people in fits of laughter back then, but not today.
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>>334374885
>Literally every writer in history is inspired by Shakespeare.
Why would you say something that stupid?
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>>334375076
I don't know at this point how many people can honestly read through a whole shakespeare book and comprehend it, its basically in an entirely different langauge than our own even the big shakespeare fags I know can only ever seem to summarize the story.
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>>334374747
Every time I see this posted I have to stop myself from trying to point out everything wrong with it. It would just take way too long.
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>>334374795
Name me one video game that has caused a revolution.
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>>334375228
I might just be fucking retarded, but I honestly can't make heads or tails out of that clusterfuck.
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>>334375048
It's also not fiction, which is what this thread is about. Would you honestly say the communist manifesto is art?
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>>334375308
Yeah me neither, is it supposed to be like his fucking opinions on the games or something?
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>>334375285
Nowadays books won't start revolutions either, that's the point he was making.
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>>334355324
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
no
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>>334374795
Anon, please.
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>>334375285
For fuck's sake. Books have been around in some form for thousands, possibly tens of thousands of years. Do you really think that's comparable to the 40-is years that games have been around for? And again, people are much more down to earth nowadays than they were then, and thus are much less influenced by fiction.
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>>334375391
No fucking shit. Art has lost its meaning for every medium.
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>>334375595
LOOKS LIKE OBJECTIVE BORING SCIENCE IS ALL WE HAVE NOW FAGGOTS.
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>>334359153
Why do I get the feeling these are all direct quotes that triggered him.
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>>334374747
Every time I see this I think I might understand it but then I just don't.
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>>334374630
I may not have taken into account the concept of "movie vs film" since I'm not really a film buff. I was going to point out Super Metroid as its unique in its well constructed nonverbal storytelling
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>>334375595
The internet ruined art.
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>>334374747
Am I just reading this wrong, or did this guy say that Saints Row 4 didn't have any female characters?
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This generation or the one following will one of the dumbest yet.
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>>334375979
There's no way of reading that thing right.
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>>334362001
I honestly am, some grown man sat down and drew, wrote and colored this high school tier argument when he could've at least made some hentai or something of value.
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>>334376076
Maybe, I still think its funny to hear people talk about how the "kids today are great with technology" when software is more limited and idiot proof than ever. This isnt the 90's when kids were troubleshooting their pc's all by themselves.
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>>334374747
I love how smart he must've felt as he thought of this concept, then tried to "draw" it.
He must've felt so good about himself.

Only for literally no one to understand what the fucking delusional, illogical, pseudo-intellectual thing is supposed to mean, or ever how it's supposed to be read.
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