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>GTX 960 and R9 380 can't hit 1080/60 fps on Dark Souls 3 even on lowest settings
What??
video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bskn6L8cBi4
I've turned everything down on my 960 and I still don't get consistent 60 fps. How can this happen? This card should be able to do this easily. Not 60fps/max, but 60 fps tweaked should have been completely possible. This is a fuck up.
My 290x gives me 60 fps at 1080p in closed areas, and 50-55 in more open ones.
The cathedral gave me drops down to 40 sometimes though, no idea why.
>>334322760
open MSI Afterburner and see for yourself.
Shitty port, GPU and CPU usage is a joke. Wait for a hotfix, but again :
>bamco
it's gonna take 300 years
>>334322760
We warned you about the 960, we warned you about nvidia
>>334323204
I've got CPU usage all over the place. 100% on some cores, 15-20% on several others at the same time.
I have 24 cores (hyperthreaded) to work with, and at least ten of them are being utilized at any given time, maybe more.
>>334323287
I can get 60 fps no problem in Tomb Raider, which is more graphically intensive than this game. Haven't tried Rise of the Tomb Raider, but it would be a similar story.
Read 5xx.14 nvidia drivers helped fps. Dunno if it's true, too lazy to take out my 660ti
>>334322760
Lemme tell you a secret op. Some console games are made to run at 30 fps. They are optimized for and tested for 30 fps only. When said games get ported to PC they are meant to run at 30 fps. It's only if you have above average hardware that you can power through to the untested stable 60fps. Event then it most likely is not even stable you might dip in random areas quite considerably.
Where the fuck is Pascal?
WHERE IS IT NVIDIA
>>334322760
I'm running on a gtx 970 and its pulling 60 perfectly fine with no dips on max.
>>334323494
353.62 for 600 series cards, possible 700 as well.
314.22 for older.
>tfw my shitty graphics card can't run DS3 at 30fps
>>334323879
Fucking this
i just want my GeForce X70 already
got sli 970G1 and running great,
>>334323350
How do you expect a game to use that many cores, please all of you just fucking learn how cores work.
>>334322760
naw i don't want the 970 meme
I have a 950 and I get 60 fps.
Serves you idiots right for mindlessly trying to target 60 because people brainwashed you into believing your PC was not only inferior if it doesn't push 1080p/60 at bare minimum, but that you also can't enjoy video games unless the hit that frame rate and alas, mountains of idiots subscribed to the idea and now legitimately can't enjoy video games unless I adheres to an arbitrary performance quota.
Enjoy the fucking console port PC clowns. When technical problems starts coming before you and video games you should start to realize you that fucked up and became a literal pawn molded by and for PCMR
>>334326896
This.
The 60fps meme makes me not enjoy gaming anymore because im a poor fag
>>334326896
but my $200 gpu maxes the game no problem
>>334326494
I don't expect it to, but it's nice to see a game using over 8 cores. Some other games I've played have used a lot. Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes used 12.
>tfw with 960 + gsync
>>334326896
Nice assumptions there.
I actually locked to 30 fps and have been enjoying the game just fine. But I still know the game should have been able to do 60 with no problems on two cards which are both shown to be capable of it in other titles.
I dont know what AMD did to those beta drivers they released but the game runs beautiful at 720p max but worse at 1080 low. I'm using a HD7770 by the way.
>>334322760
Low settings look the same as consoles and a 960 isn't twice as fast as a ps4, what's so surprising?
Dark Souls ports have always been pretty lazy but this isn't too ridiculous..
>>334322760
I have a 980.
>>334326896
Yea I'm sure drops to 10 and 20 fps is so much better sonycuck
keep buying more online subs like the pathetic cuck you are
>>334323165
this. 290 master race checking in fambo
>>334329501
>>334323165
>dasitmane.jpg
I kept 60 through the cathedral though, not sure why you guys were getting that huge of dips. illithyl courtyard and before pontiff dipped a bit low though, but that area is pretty intense with buildings and fire effects and snow and shit too, so I didn't really care.
Will a 960 with 4gb ram help? Or you need a 970 for this?
uh.. yes they can? what the fuck are you on nigger.
I'm running this game fine on a gtx 660, what the fuck is your problem
>>334322760
Its getting worse and worse. devs are being encouraged to make pc ports complete garbage so people think consoles are some kind of amazing hardware. yes they actually expect you to believe that.
>>334323879
Pascal isn't gaming focused, you won't see big increases over the 900 series.
>>334330231
That's why I want Pascal, so the prices of other shit drop.
>>334322760
the game is shit optimized
if you can't get an FPS difference on any graphics setting thats indicative of a CPU bottleneck
>>334329895
no, its more CPU bound, the game is just running like shit for all sorts of configurations
>>334330231
Imma need a source, faggot
>>334325309
This. Will buy myself a new card in june. Which games should I play meanwhile?
>>334330553
They wont drop, thats not how CPUs and GPUs prices work.
>>334331340
they will
the 1070 will take the same price point that the 970 did when it came out
>>334322760
>960
I have a 8320 + 7790, can I run this shit?
>>334322760
Did you update to the latest drivers?
If that didnt work try reinstalling Windows.
If that dosent work give your PC a bath
>>334331334
>don't
>>334331420
no don't be greedy with your calculator
>tfw low settings
>tfw 1280x720p
>tfw game looks like DSK1
>tfw I have no face
Why the fuck am I getting such dogshit frames... 30 frames but the game constantly fucking freezes up every few seconds, sometimes going for over 5 seconds of freezing. Makes the game unplayable.
>>334331587
Well I can play lots of games, I'll pirate this shit and give it a try
>>334330154
This is what I don't get. How can a 660 run it fine but a 960 can't?
>>334323901
I'm on a gtx 970 and get constant dips everywhere
like as low as 40
can't hold a steady 60 at all
>>334331719
His "fine" is probably 30 fps
>Have 8 year old PC
>Dont be retarded and computer illiterate
>Realize that if I gut all the useless shit in Windows that is not needed for gaming my 8 year old PC can out-perform current gen consoles by a mile
Feels good.
GTX 760
8gb RAM
i5 2500k OC'd to 4.5
solid 50-60 fps at 1080p with everything on Max. DoF and Motion Blur disabled.
Protips for people with NEET PCsShort stroke hard drive if its not an SSD, gut windows services. I have 5% memory usage idle. Gut windows features. kill all unnecessary processes as well as explorer.exe when running the game. Always try to keep a fresh install of Windows.
>>334331639
>Why the fuck am I getting such dogshit frames
because they made the game like crap
>>334331639
because your parents are failure of their generation and you are failure of our generation, all poorfags who can't afford basic needs
git gud
>>334331856
none of the "useless services" under windows are hindering DS3, DS3 is made like shit
>5% memory usage idle
>>334322760
Is it the 2GB version of the 380/960? That would be my guess, 2GB cards run DS3 like shit.
>>334331856
isn't 760 just above minimum? those retards complaining have gpu way below 750ti
>>334332014
A 960 is below 750ti? this is a serious question, I'm an idiot
>>334331719
>>334331847
I don't have everything maxed.
Texture, AA, SSAO, water quality all activated and /or maxed.
DoF and Blur off, shadows on medium, the rest in on low.
1080p mostly 60 fps with the occasional drop to 50, doesn't go below 45 even in the cathedral (most intensive area so far).
I'm using a 660 with an i5 3570k (stock clocked) btw
>>334332082
960 is a step up from 750 ti.
But really, you should get a 960 4 gb ram or it won't help much.
pc wins
hahaha
pc wins!
PC WIN
say it with me guys
P-p-p-p-pc wins...
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>>334332252
It wins if you have a good one, not a destitute-fair tier from logical increments like all the fags that bitch
>Mfw my 280x can run the game at a silky smooth 60 at 2048x1152 on max settings (Motion blur off)
>Mfw I can even push 1440p and maintain 40+ FPS
Unfortunately, just like Bloodborne, the game isn't all that visually impressive.
>>334331998
Having the maximum amount of RAM free while gaming makes a hell of a difference.
By idle I mean with no other applications running other than the ones windows needs to function.
Alternatively you could just buy more RAM of course.
Its really funny to see people with high end PCs complaining about performance issues. I can imagine that their shit is probably just a fucking mess.
>>334331484
>If that didnt work try reinstalling Windows.
I honestly cannot believe how many times I seen this uttered as an actual troubleshooting step.
>>334322760
>this is a fuck up
maybe for you. My 2600k / 960 4gb run this game at locked 60fps all high settings. I haven't had a single frame dip in 26 hours of playing. Also no crashes.
>>334323165
>last gen AMD outperforms Nvidya
>>334332563
>I can imagine that their shit is probably just a fucking mess.
Should I just buy another stick of ram and have 16gb?
I've tried everything to get this shit running smoothly
>>334332563
>Having the maximum amount of RAM free while gaming makes a hell of a difference.
thats not how memory works. Games and services occupy as much memory as they need. This is why buying upwards of 32gb of memory is completely useless.
When Windows sees that its running out of usable memory it uses svchost.exe as its service controller to scale back its own memory usage for other programs.
>buy more ram
there is no evidence that DS3 is having performance issues due to ram performance
>>334332563
>Having the maximum amount of RAM free while gaming makes a hell of a difference.
As someone who uses software to monitor my computer while a game is running, I can tell you that most all modern games hover around 6GB's, on a computer that uses around 3GB idle.
Unless you're running 4GB, it's not going to make a difference. But you don't have to take my word for it, download MSI afterburner and see for yourself.
>>334330653
I have an i5-6500
how could that be bottlenecking unless something is fucking broken.
>>334333016
it means DS3 was made like shit
>>334332351
well thats funny because the 960 is considered very good-great by logical increments
>>334330154
Define "fine".
You obviously have something wrong.
A 750Ti can get 30fps at VHQ.
>>334332189
I have a 650 and I put everything at low @ 900p and it would dip down to 10fps at some points.
What gives?
I have a 2.5GHz 2quad processor and 8GB ram.
>>334330653
I get small differences, but even with everything turned to low still don't get 60 fps all the time.
>>334333106
If you hover over the 960 in logical increments it also says you'll get 20-25 FPS in Witcher 3 at 1080p. So I don't know why you'd expect to run things in full HD at 60fps on a modern triple A game
>>334331420
Yes, but don't expect 60 fps.
>>334333069
but I've had this super sketchy performance where changing graphics options does nothing on other games too, and its been annoying the hell out of me.
The stuff I actually want to play runs like shit with stuttering, but the boring AAA shit I use to benchmark my PC runs completely perfect
>>334333106
It is a great card if you do the price/performance ratio.
You must not expect miracles.
The logical increments page also links to the 2 gb version.
You won't do shit with 2 gb in DS3.
>>334331856
Everybody already has their PC optimized, you're not some special snowflake for knowing how to tweak windows.
>>334322760
>tfw running DaS3 60+fps, 2560x1440 resolution, all max settings
feels great, it only took me a $3000 computer to do it. Literally one of the first times I've been pleased with my purchase
>>334332959
>thats not how memory works
Okay, so youre retarded. Did you not understand the context of my post? Freeing up as much memory as possible when you have a mid-tier PC
does make a difference. Of course if youre running dual Titans your RAM doesnt mean shit.
>>334332961
>Unless you're running 4GB, it's not going to make a difference
I ran 4GB until very recently and managed to play Fallout 4 on max settings at 1080p. I am talking about making the most of your PC.
I just think its funny how people spend 2 grand on a rig and then sit there with 40,000 background applications running and then wonder why their shit doesnt work.
>>334333459
The 2GB version is the same than the 4GB version because the 128-bit bus.
Insignificant to nothing performance difference.
>>334322760
You should have expected this, fromsoft can't make pc games.
my 970 runs it just fine
>>334333391
I'm playing with my CTR monitor at 1280x1024 I'm ok with 40 fps
>>334322760
GTX 970 and 390 are the mid range cards
960 and 380 low-to-mid tier cards
>>334333529
>Did you not understand the context of my post? Freeing up as much memory as possible when you have a mid-tier PC
You have 8gb of ram which is more than enough
Windows doesn't use more than 2gb with all those services online and even if they did svchost.exe would close and stop certain unused services to allow DS3 to use more memory.
>Of course if you're running dual titans your ram doesn't mean shit
What do Titan GPU's have to do with system memory?
>>334333529
> I am talking about making the most of your PC.
Which I actually agree with for users of 4GB, memory limits are a concern. But with 8gb, the number of background applications you have to run is pretty insane for it to actually get anywhere near maxed. You'd have to have a browser with a bunch of tabs open in the background, and sometimes that's STILL not enough to affect it significantly.
Seriously, download MSI afterburner 4.2, turn on RAM monitoring in the onscreen display and see how much you use with a game running. It'll be 6.5GB MAX, not anywhere near your computers limit.
>>334333289
TW3 is far more demanding than most games
but I still don't understand how anyone can justify paying half the price of a console for just a gpu and then getting sub par performance in the same games
its pretty obvious that the GPU market right now is completely fucked and Nvidia and AMD are cannibalizing each other while also screwing all their customers at the same time
choosing between one or the other is practically like choosing between two different consoles at this point
>>334333946
Except for the people that get a used 680 for 75$ on craiglist and laugh all the way to the bank.
But you have a point, buying new you're gonna get fucked, by AMD or nvidia.
>>334332563
You will see no benefit from having over 8GB of ram playing Dark Souls 3 unless you've got a bunch of other bullshit running in the background.
>>334333459
Very little to no difference between 2gb and 4gb models for DS 3.
>>334333662
That's fine, but 1280x1024? Surely your monitor can do 1600x1200.
>>334334224
Not only for DS3 but for everything, the 4GB memory are bottlenecked by the 128bit bus.
>>334334224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBqm1pepFaw
See this video. Even at 1080p the game uses 3GB of VRAM if it can. Being an entire gigabyte short of VRAM is going to make a significant difference in performance.
>>334334321
Nah the max resolution is 1280x1024, is pretty old, I want to get a new monitor with a resolution you said but not 1080p
is my pc ready to Embrace The Darkness™
>>334334097
considering how many people use geforce experience and gaming evolved i wouldn't be surprised if they had a ton of bullshit in the background
>>334334481
I would say yes but don't expect your 60 fps smooth
>>334333692
>300$ cards are the mid range
what went wrong
>>334334332
Well for one that's not how memory bus and memory limits work and two, the 380 is a 256 bit bus.
>>334334660
But i never or the other anons mentioned the 380.
>>334322760
Doesn't matter. As if there's any difference between max and lowest.
>yfw can't max vidya anymore
Toaster life is suffering... ;_;
>>334334632
AMD and nvidia realized people will pay whatever they ask because most don't realize there's any options beyond newegg or amazon.
>>334334736
Read the OP
>>334334782
kys
>>334334481
seems overkill for gamecube emulation but okay
>Beat the game on a duct taped toaster
It wasn't as fun as it should have been.
>>334334910
Wow anon, that's some cool calculatior you got there.
>>334334910
>1GB 6800
my nigga
Card has served me well for like 4 years. Plays witcher 3 at medium settings 900p 30fps. Dark souls 3 is the first game that it can actually not maintain a solid framerate, it dips to like 20fps when in certain spots because of that 1GB of VRAM. Guess it's finally time to upgrade.
>>334334910
THAT is a toaster?
>>334335137
apparently since i'm getting 15 fps consistently in most boss fights.
The fact that I beat Champion Gundyr is nothing short of magical space voodoo and I still haven't been able to kill Nameless.
>>334332959
Well not necessarily. I have 8 gigs of ram and fo4 eventually fills out all of it on standby and sometimes I actually run out and it starts paging which causes all kinds of stuttering even though the active memory is only around 3 Gigs.
>>334334424
I don't remember the link off-hand, but I have seen a comparision between the 2 and 4 gb version and the 4gb only got about 2 fps better.
>>334336504
do people still not realize that the point of vram is not to improve overall average FPS its to prevent stuttering when the game has to load a lot of high res textures?
this is why vram is more important now than ever because there are more open world games with more high res textures and just more textures in general
>>334336853
>do people still not realize that the point of vram is not to improve overall average FPS
apparently not
You might get a 1 fps stutter going from one major area to another in DS 3 with the 2 gb card, but otherwise it's going to be the same performance
>>334337049
if you're playing a game that needs 3 or 4gb with a 2gb card the stuttering will not be that minor
>>334326896
DELETE THIS 60FPS MEME!!!!!!!
>>334332465
Damn that picture is dissappointing for 1440p
>>334322760
I have a 760 and run ultra at 50+ frames m8
Every single graphics test ever;
>All settings to max
>Shit performance for everyone
In reality
>turn down one or two absolutely unnecessary settings like AA from 16x to 8x
>no graphical difference
>MASSIVE increase in performance
>all mid range cards and up run 60FPS+
tldr version; graphics tests are literally worthless because they dont even slightly represent reality.
Strix 390 Solid 60fps 1080
>>334326896
>Rock solid 20 fps is playable
>>334322760
I get 60 fps on my shitty computer but the fucking game crashes randomly if I set the lighting option up any higher then low
>>334337496
Depends on what you determine to be minor. You can play Dark Souls 3 on a 2gb card and the game is completely playable with a framerate better than the console. That's a pretty good result.
>>334337049
>>334336853
I have a housemate who still refuses to believe this. He argues vehemently that I'm wrong, that more RAM equals higher framerates across the board.
This mother fucker is retarded and doesn't pay me enough to listen to this shit.
>>334340720
This post tells me you haven't even played the game in question here, because this doesn't work with it. You can turn down as much as you want and it won't make a whole lot of difference.
>>334322760
I refuse to believe this. I max everything out with a GTX 660 and an FX 6300 yet I can still get about 30 FPS consistently.
>>334322760
>gtx 580 1.5
>i5 750 oc 3.71
Everything is on low with ssao being the only thing off. Solid 60fps in DaS graphics.
When the game auto saves and in Lothric castle, the game turns into a literal sideshow for a good 10 seconds. It's driving me insane, I have a r9 280x. Changing it to low doesn't do anything.
usually when a game is unable to stay over 30fps or lowering the setting do nothing the cpu is at fault
huuuuh i had a 760 on release and it was fine on high, turning off aa, ssao and motion blur
it dipped at 40-30 but usually maintained 60-high 50s in most situations
I just received my 970 and now it's stable 60 at maxed settings everywhere
dont know what's wrong with your computers lmao
>my integrated Intel HD chip does like 4 times better than my Geforce 820M
B R A V O
F
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MGranted, I know neither should really squeeze out acceptable FPS anyway, it's a goddamned toaster. I mean, MGSV can run fine on it, why shouldn't DS3? i5 4th gen and all.
>>334322760
Hey, at least you guys can run the game.
I don't even meet the minimum requirements for current gen anymore. ;_;
It's too GOD DAMN BAD the game has no ini file you can edit to turn chromatic aberration off completely. You can easily gain anywhere from 3-5 frames per second consistent average from disabling that fucking filter.
>>334322760
>game runs 60 fps most of time
>Drops to 50 max during combt
>IT'S UNPLAYABLE
That guy is fucking retarded.
>>334322760
>BUT BUT BUTTTTT CONSOLES ARE HOLDING BACK GAMINGG XDD
>>334329895
Why would you buy a 960 instead of a 380? or a 970 instead of a 390?
Both are better.
Hell fork 50-100 bucks more and buy a 390x that's equals to a 980 while being hundreds of dollars cheaper.
>>334333692
>GTX 970 and 390 are the mid range cards
No they're not
>>334334632
>what went wrong
You being retarded and believing other retards on /v/ of all places.
>>334348010
Yeah, that part is pretty stupid. They should have mentioned the console version runs 30 fps, and if you get above that you're good to play the game.
Can somebody tell me why its always about 30 fps or 60 fps....whats wrong with 40 or 50....dont get mew wrong, i understand higher is better but I honestly barely notice the difference after around 45 fps..that seems to be my sweet spot, if i hit that im happy and even the odd dip below that dosnt bother me too much, though sub 30 does become less enjoyable I just dont understand why ppl seem focused on 30 and 60....is there something magical about those numbers?
>>334332014
I'm playing the game on a GTX 560 and I'm finding it very nice lol, you fags complain about anything.
You what? I have a GTX 960 and I can play at 1080p/60fps on normal settings just fine.
>>334334814
>because most don't realize there's any options beyond newegg or amazon.
Can you suggest some other reliable/safe options? The only other one I can think of is Fry's and those guys are like 30-40 bucks more for the same thing on Newegg.
>>334348737
He put all settings on max and got 60 fps with drops to 50 something in battles. Guy's fucking retarded, it's just laughable.
>>334349201
Yes, something about how the eye works.
>>334349201
Gettings closer to 60 is perfect. The guy is some sort of autist that wants perfect 60 fps with no dips, everything has dips.
Hell the game gets 60 fps most of the time, getting to the low 50's is not bad, even more considering he has ULTRA settings.
I honestly don't understand people complaining about fps, I've got 280x, running 1080 with mostly max settings (no blur/dof) and I'm yet to see any fps dips (other than when game saves) or crash even once.
>>334349490
Well to be fair there are games that have really bad effects if the fps dips below 60, like for example most fighting games. In the case of Dark Souls it's completely ok to have 40 or 50fps as it doesn't change the gameplay all that much.
>>334349642
Fighting games are kind of a special case since they are designed to be 60fps no matter what no dips ever since all moves have their frame time.
>>334322760
750ti here running at 60fps in 1440p
>>334349793
I doubt that is possible
>>334334910
Wait, if that's a toaster, then what's mine?
>i7 6700k
>GTX 670
>60 FPS constant on High-Max (only texture/shadow) settings
I was thinking the CPU was slightly overkill when I got it, but now I'm quite pleased with myself.
>>334323879
They need to be done gimping the Maxwell cards first before they can have you craving a new one
Just like every year :^)
>tfw 980
>4790k
>Max settings
>Constant 60 fps
consoles and poor cucks on suicide watch
>>334350062
DaS3 only uses the first core for most part with very light offload onto remaining cores.
You can give yourself a good FPS boost by disabling hyper-threading in bios.
>mfw inbetween crashes i was getting 60fps on a 770 4gb oc with 362.00 drivers
LEWL
>Gtx 760 and i5 4590k
>45 fps average with lots of stuttering
>Game crashes if set Lighting above Low
>>334350187
As long as my system still runs League of Legends and CS:Go, I'm good.
>>334350251
I'm already running mostly high settings, with max on shadows and textures. I don't think I'll be able to go higher than that even with your tip, but I'll give it a shot anyways. I'm most certainly GPU bound at this point, but I refuse to upgrade with pascal being this close.
>>334350540
If you have a second monitor run something like HW Monitor or even task manager and have a look at usage after disabling hyper-threading.
I got an ok boost of about 10 fps, although beware that this may slightly increase temperatures on your CPU.
>>334349891
Nice brick game you got there anon
>>334327703
>720p
Who cares
>mfw need to spend $2000 o PC just to get it to run ds3 at 60fps
>haha stupid console idiots
>money well spent though because NVidia actually contributes to the gaming industry and improves it by developing quality software
I'm on a 660. I get 50-60FPS in most areas, but the game randomly dips down to nothing all the time, sometimes freezing up for a second or two before getting choppy again and then returning to normal. The game is optimized like shit.
>>334352868
>660
>Blames optimization not self for being a jew in past and present
Check the upper right corner whenever dips occur, if you see a logo that means game is saving and there is no dick you can do about it.
>>334352974
It's not the autosaving, you mongoloid. And I bought this card over two years ago. I've had no issue running most PC games at 1440p at 60FPS. DaSIII is the first game I've had to turn down to 1080p and lower almost all the settings to low, and like I said, I get around 60FPS in most areas.
The game is unoptimized like crazy. I don't have a great GPU, I'm aware of that, but I can run games with more stress on the gpu and get better fps out of it
>>334340892
It's SORTA playable.
And yes I'm playing it on pc, not ps4. I just don't have a very good pc.
>>334330154
Same here. Got a 660 Ti, settings on maximum never drops under 30 fps.
I can't understand why 960 users are having issues
I need a new computer
But first I need a job, and that's not easy in my country.
>>334353128
>. I've had no issue running most PC games at 1440p at 60FPS
I honestly don't know if this is a meme, people purposely lying or console babies who switched to PC not knowing what 60fps actually looks like.
If fucking 980ti struggles with majority of games to get 1440p/60fps what in the fucking world gives your 660 power of christ?
i wouldnt consider 20 fps nearly close to being playable
maybe you really want to play this game and that's fine, but personally at that point i would just give it up and wait to get a proper system to play it on. It really is just not reasonable to play like this.
>>334350251
>DaS3 only uses the first core for most part with very light offload onto remaining cores.
Disagree with that, I see 25-35% CPU usage on cores past the first one. I wouldn't call that very light.
>>334353128
>1440/60 on a 660
what games and why are you lying?
>>334353550
It's lighter compared to 85-90% usage of Core 0 and 40% on core 1.
The guys who did the first benchmark of DaS3 also pointed this out, though they pointed this out in Russian version of their website so I'm not sure if it was mentioned in english.
>>334333692
what fucking planet do you live on, 85% of pc users don't have a card as good as a 970 or 390
>>334353518
>>334353646
Not maxed out, you dumbdumbs. FFXIV, Dragon's Dogma, and Killing Floor 2 are games I can run at 1440p/60fps at varying settings. I don't play GRAPHIX games so I don't know how my 660 would stack up against some newer releases, but as I've said, every game I've played on this setup has been totally fine. It's only DaSIII that has had problems with framedrops and stuttering, and I know I'm not alone in this issue. I've seen tons of people, with better computers, complaining of the same issues.
>>334331693
My Fx-6300 and HD 7700 runs it fine at medium-low. Not 60fps but the only real noticeable drops is during fights like the pontiff.
>>334353963
We are talking about normal PC gamers not people who put together a toaster.
It's always been simple
960 - Low
970 - Mid
980 - High
370 - Low
380 - Mid
390 - High
>>334354275
What planet do you live in?
The low for Nvidia is like a gt 730 or some shit.
>>334353717
Even modern midrange CPUs are so powerful nowadays (at least intel ones) it honestly doesn't make much difference. Modern game engines are mostly programmed to take advantage of GPUs. Most of the workload can be taken by a single CPU core and it's quite sufficient for most tasks.
>>334354275
The whole 900 series is considered a high performance GPU.
>my 6870 crossfire is ded
>one is fried
>only one remaining
>1366*768
>low
>fairly smooth
I play on TV and I'm nearsighted so it's ok
>>334353965
It's a badly optimized port from console, you should have expected this. This isn't like Valkyria Chronicles, a game that runs on toasters.
>>334354275
are you insane? the x60 are the average. The low end (and that's disputable) is the x50 series. x70 are the premium cards and x80 are the flagship top tier.
and then comes the TI versions where it's a total crapshoot and formerly shitty cards on OC can outperform flagship cards.
>>334322760
so apparently polaris 10 is r9 480 and it is on the level with 980
no 490x this year
>>334354396
>>334354646
>>334354950
I don't know about the rest of the world but my perception of what constitutes a decent graphics card begins and ends with what you guys refer to as the high performance tier cards i.e. 300/900 series. I've never even though that anyone would buy like 750/230 for gaming as it seems just pointless.
Frankly I don't know why anyone would buy anything less than 970/380 (outside of special cases of course)
>>334322760
My 770 runs with great fps. A few quick drops here and there, a crash once or twice a sesssion, and that's it
>>334354950
you all know that high/mid range is about price not the performance?
>>334355094
With all the memeing going on around here I sometimes forget that some people are actually autistic
>I've never even though that anyone would buy like 750/230 for gaming as it seems just pointless.
You live in some kind of bubble world. If you are actually serious, consult a mental professional immediately.
>>334355374
Being into PC gaming is already a bubble world, really.
Being an autist about it is a bubble within a bubble.
My 760 gets 60/1080 on most areas. The cathedral had some slowdown parts though but that and the abyss watchers fight with all the flame particles are the only times i've dipped below 40.
>>334355448
is this 2006 again?
>>334355202
>Gtx770 meme card run for me at 60fps no drops no crashes on high settings.
Why are you all pushing a gtx980 inside your toasters. Shit won't work like this
>>334349201
Screens refresh in 30hz intervals. Anything that isn't divisible by 30 is prone to screen tearing.
970 sli, upscaled to 3k resolution and is almost solid 60. Don't know if the settings are on high though, my pirated copy is a bit weird.
>>334323204
>Dark Souls 2
>Bug at 60 fps that made weapons degrade ridiculously fast and when hitting nothing
>Never got patched until the big scholar update
>Only reason they patched it was because the new PS4 version that also ran 60 fps now got this bug too
>>334355525
You sure about that? Are you using a FPS counter? 45-50 fps can look pretty smooth.
>>334355202
the crashes have nothing to do with the cards, people with a wide range of settings have had problems with stability
>>334355094
>300/900 series
Then you don't know a whole lot. 900 aren't inherently "high performance tier". They're just another series of cards with a performance range as variable as any other generation before it. A 480m can outperform a 940m. A 680 can outperform a 960.
>>334355646
>970 sli
>pirated copy
>>334354275
>entry
R7 370
GTX 950
>low
GTX 960
R9 380
R9 380x (literally an an oc 380 can match a 380x)
>midrange
GTX 970
R9 390
>high
GTX 980
R9 390x
>high/uber
R9 Fury
R9 Nano
>uber
GTX Titan
GTX 980 ti
R9 Fury X
>>334355534
770 is a meme card?
>>334329114
>Low settings look the same as consoles
Nigger PS4= max settings.
>have GTX 960
>can't hit 60 fps
>max everything and lock to 30 fps
>>334355669
Not 100% surebut at least 90% sure. I could be wrong but the game has been prettty damn smooth except for those two specific areas and the occasional stutter.
>>334355764
It's not healthy to lie to yourself
>>334355783
>max everything and lock to 30fps
So you're basically playing DS3 on a $1500 PS4/console.
The funny thing is if it were able to hit 60 on your rig, you would justify the etra $1000 you spent for more frames.
>>334355861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE9nONBpdc0
You are such a nigger.
>>334355703
I think you should include Intel HD and AMD APUs as entry level, 370 and 950 as low, and 960 and 380 as mid range.
Everything 970 and up is a lot more scarce. Most people would consider a 970 to be a very boss GPU.
>>334355931
>$1500
If you think someone with a 960 would pay that much for a computer you really don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. The fucker probably didn't even spend $500
>>334355689
G1 version, gonna get that sweet overclock
Had to skimp on screen though
>>334356019
Sorry but when the cost of the GPU alone is $250 and not even including shipping, its clear that you're in denial if you think his rig cost $500.
>>334355931
Where in the world did you come up with $1500? Have the dignity to shitpost more convincingly.
>>334355931
it's not the rig's fault, Japanese devs can't and won't optimize for shit
>>334355703
>a 970 or 390 is "midrange" despite being able to easily 60/1080 at max settings any game on the market
>any tier above that is at most a 10 to 20% increase in processing power
>nvidia shills still want us to believe that a x60 series card is shit tier despite being perfectly able to handle any modern game at max settings
>nvidia shills still trying to dissuade us to believe that most x50 series they put out are not actually the most cost effective GPUs
Stop the overspending you fucking cucks. x80 series are massively overpriced.
I swear to fucking god people here are so fucking stupid when it comes to PC spending.
>>334356019
My whole PC (960 included) cost $465, mang. And I splurged a bit, could have gone lower.
tfw I'm trying to buy Dark Souls III from Green Man Gaming but they're euro fucking faggot servers are broken and password reset emails won't send out. Same with account creation emails.
I don't think I've ever been this mad. I have money to fucking spend, I see a fucking BUY button, I click it, and I can't fucking buy shit because they're so god damn fucking shit.
Of course no one else has it at a similar price. Of course their customer service and Twitter isn't responding. I want to punch something so fucking bad right now. I'm literally shaking with rage.
>>334356112
GPU is the most expensive part for vidya. 5+ year old processor and motherboards can still play today's vidya. RAM is and always has been cheap. Power supplies aren't costly.
>>334355985
This is tiers of discrete gpu (dGPU). Those are iGPU.
>>334348095
But that's true, you retard
>>334355703
You are delusional.
>>334356245
Why make the separation?
>>334322760
I have 7950. the game runs just fine on high. and I thought AMD drivers were supposed to be bad.
>>334322760
GTX 960 and R9 380 are budget cards though.
380 is just a notch above 960 in terms of power.
>>334356138
The game is optimized for console, optimizing for PC is expensive and unnecessarily difficult because of how many people have different hardware inside their computers
>>334356254
No, that's not. W/O consoles you can forget AAA title with good graphics, and enjoy shitty f2play LoL/CSGO/word of tanks, ect.
Tell me why valve don't bother with half life 3 ? Why since Crysis nobody bother with AAA exclusive on PC ???
Why CDPR went for the console audience with a console build for tw3 ?
>>334333586
you're wrong though
i've had both
>>334356337
Yeah, but Dark Souls 3 is a PlayStation 4 port. They should smash it.
I haven't had any issues with the frame rate besides it dropping a few frames when the game decides to auto save, but other than that the game's been really stable for me.
>>334331719
What cpu?
>>334356254
With consoles, they get their game running on one set of hardware and they're done. With PC, they need to test their game with loads of different hardware combinations, optimize it to work with as many as possible, then even after the game is released they have to patch and patch and patch.
And then to top it off, after all that, the PC gaming population calls them shitty developers and bitches and moans at them for not spending as much time with the PC version as they should have when they, by necessity, had to pour more time and effort into getting their game to run on all other platforms combined.
Consoles don't hold gaming back, they only hold graphics back. PCs do more to hold actual game development back.
>>334332232
Why do u think he has the 2gb?
>>334356237
Buy it off Steam or Kinguin if you can't wait.
>>334356183
>My whole PC (960 included) cost $465, mang
wtf how. 960 costs $200 at the lowest price. stop lying.
>>334333208
>2.5
I see your mistake
>>334356573
And you forgot the whole Nvidia VS amd tech on top of that.
>>334356419
>PlayStation 4 port.
>port
found the problem.
Asking for a decent port is like asking to win the lottery. You can ask all you want, but you're still more likely to be struck by lightning.
>>334356592
>Buy it at a higher price because GMG can't get their shit together
Fuck that, these eurocunts need to step it the fuck up. I'll be damned if I don't get something extra out of this at this point. Fucking infuriating. It's even worse because I work for a fucking eCommerce digital distribution company that is shit and we never fuck up like this. I'm ready to punch my fucking monitor over this shit.
>>334356268
Because no one buys a cpu for the purpose of playing games on it. If anyone wanted to play games they'd normally find the cheapest graphics card they can hence why entry level gpu exist. Also unless you're using a recent 6xxx intel processor the igpu in older intel chips suck ass unless you're playing toaster tier games like runescape.
>>334332082
960 is obviously a better card, but the 750ti is known to be probably the most cost effective card on the market right now. For how cheap it is, it is a very powerful card.
>>334356734
This is truly the face of autism.
Random dumb question
For anyone here who has a MSI GTX980ti, how well can it handle DS3?
Also, where would you rank the 980ti among video cards overall?
>>334356573
PC users will often buy the game at a 50% discount too.
The issue of holding back graphics isn't necessarily a bad thing though, they push a level of graphics that are sustainable because the hardware brings stability to ensure that.
AAA developers are barely managing their budgets as-is with the current standard, raising graphical standards even higher would be catastrophic and would probably alienate a lot of non-AAA studios or force them to go handheld/mobile where they fade away.
>>334322760
i do, even on ultra i average 50, sometimes hit 60, ive gone as low as 43
>>334356774
A lot of people don't even know anything about hardware when they buy a computer. They just look at things like form factor or color of the case. The vast majority of PC gaming is done on budget laptops running integrated GPUs. To me, that's the entry level.
>>334356807
https://youtu.be/zfVWHRWTkXk
>>334356795
No, it's someone who expects eCommerce websites to have their shit together in 2016. There is nothing more infuriating than having money and a service literally refusing to take it for any god damn reason.
I should be able to create an account if I want to. They should have sufficient IT to realize there is a problem and fucking fix it if they can't afford redundant services.
This is just one more example why Europe will always be shit.
>>334356676
Not when you buy it used off of ebay for $165. Buying new is for cucks.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GTX-960-2GD5T-OC-version-SLI-READY-2GB-GDDR5-OC-Nvidia-GPU-960-/222084802902?hash=item33b5492956:g:3R0AAOSwcdBWRWGf
Even comes with 180 day warranty.
>>334356676
>$200
Not him, but you can find suitable mobo/cpu combos for $150. That leaves you with $115 for a PSU, case (assuming he didn't recycle one), and 8GB ram which is easily doable.
